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Marvel's Creative Committee comes crumbling down

09.02.2015

The shake-ups continue over at Marvel Studios. Not too long after a power shift that now has the superhero juggernaut reporting directly to Disney and not Marvel Entertainment CEO Ike Perlmutter comes word that the Marvel Creative Committee is also experiencing its own share of changes... and by changes, I mean it is totally gone.

The group made up of Joe Quesada (former editor-in-chief of Marvel Comics and the current Chief Creative Officer of Marvel Enterprises), Brian Michael Bendis (Marvel Comics writer), Dan Buckley (Marvel Comics publisher), Alan Fine (Perlmutter's longtime friend who came into Marvel after their shared Toy Biz days), among others, were responsible for trying to help shape Marvel's properties as they made their way to the big screen. They offered up ideas and notes and thoughts on the best way to execute these movies.

Now while you could easily look at this group of creative individuals and say this brain trust could only be an asset, that's where you'd be wrong. Having too many cooks in the kitchen can often be problematic, and that seems to have been the case with this Creative Committee. Often their ideas provided more obstacles to overcome, "giving notes that are pedestrian, motivated by 'save the cat' story logic and sometimes a drag on creativity."

In addition, they never operated in the most timely fashion, making development a slow and arduous process, not to mention the fact that there was numerous minds that needed pleasing every step of the way. Want someone to blame for Edgar Wright walking away from ANT-MAN all this time later? Look no further than the Creative Committee and their contributions to how they felt that film should be, not how Wright envisioned it.

All that is in the past now though, and that could mean more creative freedom for filmmakers walking into the Marvel Cinematic Universe system as well as for Kevin Feige and his team, who now can stand on their own in making decisions instead of having to answer to this restrictive board. You won't see this really take effect for a few movies, as CIVIL WAR is already well into taking shape and DOCTOR STRANGE is deep into pre-production. But moving ahead after that, the reins may not be so tight as they once were as we navigate our way through Phase Three and beyond.

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8:29AM on 09/03/2015
Not sure if you can so definitively look at this change as positive. I mean, was the Marvel brand really damaged? Was the MCU headed in a really ridiculous direction? This seems like a case of fixing something that's not broken.

I'm not saying that Marvel movies are going to be shitty now that the creative committee is gone. This just seems more like a case of Kevin Feige making moves to advance his career rather than strengthening the MCU. And there's nothing wrong with that. But
Not sure if you can so definitively look at this change as positive. I mean, was the Marvel brand really damaged? Was the MCU headed in a really ridiculous direction? This seems like a case of fixing something that's not broken.

I'm not saying that Marvel movies are going to be shitty now that the creative committee is gone. This just seems more like a case of Kevin Feige making moves to advance his career rather than strengthening the MCU. And there's nothing wrong with that. But don't sell us a story of a behind-the-scenes issue that was more or less non-existent.

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9:09AM on 09/03/2015
I disagree with your suggestion that Kevin Feige is only looking to further his career. Good businesses don't wait until they see clear signs of failure to make changes to improve their company; they make necessary moves to maintain and improve on their success. Marvel is a successful studio right now, but they apparently had some issues with this creative team, who were reportedly more of a hindrance than a help. By disbanding the group, Marvel is no longer subject to the [link] role of the
I disagree with your suggestion that Kevin Feige is only looking to further his career. Good businesses don't wait until they see clear signs of failure to make changes to improve their company; they make necessary moves to maintain and improve on their success. Marvel is a successful studio right now, but they apparently had some issues with this creative team, who were reportedly more of a hindrance than a help. By disbanding the group, Marvel is no longer subject to the [link] role of the Marvel Creative Committee. If that means more focused films in the future, then that could help maintain success against future competition.
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6:42AM on 09/03/2015

Rinse & repeat ...

Hmmm. If 'creativity' involves another opening action sequence followed by a social problem for the protaganist(s) causing dissent followed by the random appearance of a nondescript villain who brings the protaganist(s) back to their role followed by an action sequence followed by a trailor masquerading as an end credit clip then all I can say is good riddance!
Hmmm. If 'creativity' involves another opening action sequence followed by a social problem for the protaganist(s) causing dissent followed by the random appearance of a nondescript villain who brings the protaganist(s) back to their role followed by an action sequence followed by a trailor masquerading as an end credit clip then all I can say is good riddance!
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9:12AM on 09/03/2015
Genre movies have formulas. Every movie, not just Marvel. Don't act like Marvel is alone in following a mold.
Genre movies have formulas. Every movie, not just Marvel. Don't act like Marvel is alone in following a mold.
6:20AM on 09/03/2015
Wow, they had more power than I thought. I wonder if they were who Jeff Bridges was alluding to when he criticized production during IM 1.
Wow, they had more power than I thought. I wonder if they were who Jeff Bridges was alluding to when he criticized production during IM 1.
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3:33AM on 09/03/2015
I for one does not mind at all that Quesada is off the Marvel properties. Granted he's one of the reason that Marvel Comics procured a lot of good artistic talents, but his editorial decisions were pretty bad. Like that time when he destroys Peter Parker's marriage and just went with the "It's magic, we don't have to explain it" bullshit, the underwhelming ORIGIN miniseries, among many more.
I for one does not mind at all that Quesada is off the Marvel properties. Granted he's one of the reason that Marvel Comics procured a lot of good artistic talents, but his editorial decisions were pretty bad. Like that time when he destroys Peter Parker's marriage and just went with the "It's magic, we don't have to explain it" bullshit, the underwhelming ORIGIN miniseries, among many more.
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10:41PM on 09/02/2015

Considering that Ant Man was.....

....one of the most un-Marvel Marvel films (not to mention a really good movie), I think that's a poor example. A better one would be Ultron, which was very underwhelming and seemed to have driven Whedon away from Marvel films (and possibly any big budget blockbuster) for the foreseeable future. Not only did they miss a huge chance to build on the first Avengers movie and give us something truly memorable, they completely stalled their momentum, meaning that Civil War (then Dr Strange) is
....one of the most un-Marvel Marvel films (not to mention a really good movie), I think that's a poor example. A better one would be Ultron, which was very underwhelming and seemed to have driven Whedon away from Marvel films (and possibly any big budget blockbuster) for the foreseeable future. Not only did they miss a huge chance to build on the first Avengers movie and give us something truly memorable, they completely stalled their momentum, meaning that Civil War (then Dr Strange) is going to have to be really special to get the ball rolling again.

Right now I think Guardians is more anticipated than Infinity War (with the B squad) Pt 1. The only people I know even talking about it are hardcore comic fans, and that should alarm Marvel. Then again it's entirely possible DC is going to spit the bit on Dawn Of Justice and Suicide Squad, leaving Marvel as the only serious game in town.
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10:30PM on 09/02/2015
This is part of a process that began when Feige repleced Avi Arad as the head of Marvel Studios. Avi Arad, Ike Perlmutter and Alan Fine were all employees of Toy Biz under Ronald Perelman. It was Ronald Perelman who was in charge of Marvel when the company went bankrupt in 1996 and the rights to the X-Men and Spider-Man were sold to Fox and Sony, respectively. Feige had been complaining in interviews that the "other producers" he worked with didn't know enough about the comics upon which the
This is part of a process that began when Feige repleced Avi Arad as the head of Marvel Studios. Avi Arad, Ike Perlmutter and Alan Fine were all employees of Toy Biz under Ronald Perelman. It was Ronald Perelman who was in charge of Marvel when the company went bankrupt in 1996 and the rights to the X-Men and Spider-Man were sold to Fox and Sony, respectively. Feige had been complaining in interviews that the "other producers" he worked with didn't know enough about the comics upon which the characters were based. Joe Quesada was brought in back when Fox was making Daredevil: he was the editor-in-chief of Marvel's Marvel Knights line and Mark Steven Johnson thought it was a good idea to have him on set; Joe Quesada was the one who told Mark Steven Johnson that Bullseye didn't need a costume, that he would look like a "tool". Bendis was obviously brought in by Feige because he had written a lot of the comics upon which the current Marvel movies were being based. Now that Feige doesn't have to answer to the Toy Biz people he doesn't need Quesada or Bendis to back him up: they can focus on making Daredevil Season 2 instead. The Toy Biz people have been superfluent ever since Marvel made a deal with Hasbro anyway.
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8:04PM on 09/02/2015
While I agree with this articles point about too many cooks in the kitchen, I think you have to have some concern about one person having too much control (ie. Kevin Feige). All the moves seem to point to him having more "freedom" to do what he wants and that can also be a scary notion. Tread carefully Marvel...
While I agree with this articles point about too many cooks in the kitchen, I think you have to have some concern about one person having too much control (ie. Kevin Feige). All the moves seem to point to him having more "freedom" to do what he wants and that can also be a scary notion. Tread carefully Marvel...
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7:44PM on 09/02/2015
I love all the Marvel films, but this might be a good thing to shake up the formula and/or routine that mostly all of the films follow. Time will tell I guess. I just hope it ends up being positive then negative considering where the Marvel films are storyline wise and what they're eventually leading up to.
I love all the Marvel films, but this might be a good thing to shake up the formula and/or routine that mostly all of the films follow. Time will tell I guess. I just hope it ends up being positive then negative considering where the Marvel films are storyline wise and what they're eventually leading up to.
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7:25PM on 09/02/2015
"...motivated by 'save the cat' story logic and sometimes a drag on creativity."
Haha it makes me happy that I'm not the only one who can't stand that book. I wish we knew who it was who said this..
Bit of a bummer that Quesada won't be as active creatively, but I'm glad they're moving away from "story by committee" in a very literal sense, at least.
"...motivated by 'save the cat' story logic and sometimes a drag on creativity."
Haha it makes me happy that I'm not the only one who can't stand that book. I wish we knew who it was who said this..
Bit of a bummer that Quesada won't be as active creatively, but I'm glad they're moving away from "story by committee" in a very literal sense, at least.
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6:52PM on 09/02/2015
Well Marvel has never really had a bomb, yet only a few films have managed to break from their formulaic mold and be great. This change can be good, bad, or have no noticeable effect.
Well Marvel has never really had a bomb, yet only a few films have managed to break from their formulaic mold and be great. This change can be good, bad, or have no noticeable effect.
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6:45PM on 09/02/2015
Could be good, could be bad; but can we please stop caring about what Edgar Wright would have done with Ant-Man? The movie was great, one of the best this year, I think we can officially put that controversy to bed.
Could be good, could be bad; but can we please stop caring about what Edgar Wright would have done with Ant-Man? The movie was great, one of the best this year, I think we can officially put that controversy to bed.
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6:43PM on 09/02/2015
I don't know how I feel about getting rid of Quesada and Bendis, but I do know that leading up to Age of Ultron's release, every interview Joss Whedon gave you could tell he was exhausted by people micromanaging his movie. Which wasn't exactly loved anyway. At the same time, there's a reason Marvel film shave been so fan-friendly, and people are so reluctant to criticize anything that's even moderately good (the tide is changing on that front with DC about to be the huge competitor it always
I don't know how I feel about getting rid of Quesada and Bendis, but I do know that leading up to Age of Ultron's release, every interview Joss Whedon gave you could tell he was exhausted by people micromanaging his movie. Which wasn't exactly loved anyway. At the same time, there's a reason Marvel film shave been so fan-friendly, and people are so reluctant to criticize anything that's even moderately good (the tide is changing on that front with DC about to be the huge competitor it always should have been).
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6:41PM on 09/02/2015
I think this is should. As the article said, this should give more creative to each movie team. It might also stop the Marvel movies from all taking the same formula.
I think this is should. As the article said, this should give more creative to each movie team. It might also stop the Marvel movies from all taking the same formula.
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6:32PM on 09/02/2015
Quesada and Bendis are the creators who make comics approachable in the modern day of stories. I think taking them out of the creative brain trust is a bad move. You know the Daredevil netflix show? Yeah that's based mostly on Quesada and Bendis' comics.
Quesada and Bendis are the creators who make comics approachable in the modern day of stories. I think taking them out of the creative brain trust is a bad move. You know the Daredevil netflix show? Yeah that's based mostly on Quesada and Bendis' comics.
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6:40PM on 09/02/2015
Based is the word. Bendis hasn't written anything good in recent years. He was good 15 years ago, but not anymore.
Based is the word. Bendis hasn't written anything good in recent years. He was good 15 years ago, but not anymore.
6:40PM on 09/02/2015
What do they need Quesada and Bendis for if they have their comics to go off of?
What do they need Quesada and Bendis for if they have their comics to go off of?
7:16PM on 09/02/2015
@MayatheBee Read Powers, if you haven't already. Don't know about the show, can't watch it from Canada, but the comic was from day 1 (and still is) top notch.
@MayatheBee Read Powers, if you haven't already. Don't know about the show, can't watch it from Canada, but the comic was from day 1 (and still is) top notch.
6:05PM on 09/02/2015
This probably wasn't a snap decision, something that was in the works for awhile. I'm wondering if that is why it has seemed like Marvel Studios had less news lately. I feel like there should be more news about Dr. Strange by now (although 3 principal characters are cast now) and Thor 3 should probably have a director by now. Although I guess Spider-Man bought them some time on Thor 3.
This probably wasn't a snap decision, something that was in the works for awhile. I'm wondering if that is why it has seemed like Marvel Studios had less news lately. I feel like there should be more news about Dr. Strange by now (although 3 principal characters are cast now) and Thor 3 should probably have a director by now. Although I guess Spider-Man bought them some time on Thor 3.
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