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Matthew Vaughn will produce Josh Trank's Fantastic Four reboot. Is an X-Men crossover movie on the horizon?

02.22.2013

CHRONICLE director Josh Trank has been working hard to come up with a FANTASTIC FOUR movie that will wash the bitter taste of the first two films in the series out of our collective mouths. The Tim Story movies are quite possibly the worst of the modern superhero films. Bringing Trank on board was a move meant to bring some knowledge of the genre and a bit of edge, both clearly on display in CHRONICLE.

But, things may be getting even better for the project. Mark Millar, who was brought on board to oversee all Marvel properties at Fox, tweeted the news that Matthew Vaughn would be producing the new FANTASTIC FOUR movie. Trank is still directing, but Vaughn will lend guidance to the project. Vaughn is simultaneously producing X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST for which he was previously set to direct and is now being helmed by Bryan Singer.

This move clearly suggests that Millar and Fox are getting their ducks in a row for some sort of AVENGERS-type crossover with the properties they have under their control. Could we be getting a FANTASTIC FOUR vs X-MEN movie in the near future? The possibility is clearly in play now, otherwise why gain consistency across all series as they seem to be doing?

Just to get the rumor mill churning, the X-Men and Fantastic Four did come into direct conflict during a 4 comic arc in 1987. The comic concluded the "Mutant Massacre" storyline in which Kitty Pryde, Colossus and Nightcrawler were all critically injured by the Marauders, a group of mutant terrorists. This led to the Britain-based super-team known as Excalibur. I'm not saying that is where Millar is headed, but don't count it out just yet.

The rebooted FANTASTIC FOUR is slated to be released in 2015.

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1:30AM on 02/24/2013
Glad to see I'm not the only one that thinks the previous FF movies weren't terrible. I'm not saying they're brilliant, by any means, but I found them fun and enjoyable.
Glad to see I'm not the only one that thinks the previous FF movies weren't terrible. I'm not saying they're brilliant, by any means, but I found them fun and enjoyable.
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10:45PM on 02/23/2013
Worst of modern super hero movies... You might have forgotten about Elektra, Daredevil, the Ghost Rider movies, the Punisher movies, and Hulk.
Worst of modern super hero movies... You might have forgotten about Elektra, Daredevil, the Ghost Rider movies, the Punisher movies, and Hulk.
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6:38PM on 02/23/2013
People like throwing words like Worst and Terrible around likes it's cool. The FANTASTIC FOUR movies may have not been spectacular films but they were far from Terrible. I would say they were Mediocre. You want to see a Terrible movie, rent THE BOX..
People like throwing words like Worst and Terrible around likes it's cool. The FANTASTIC FOUR movies may have not been spectacular films but they were far from Terrible. I would say they were Mediocre. You want to see a Terrible movie, rent THE BOX..
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5:12PM on 02/23/2013
Reed and Sue have a kid called Franklin. He would be born after their wedding in Rise of the Silver Surfer. Sometimes, Franklin, a very powerful mutant, plays around with time travel and reality bending (e.g. Heroes Reborn). The canonical Day of Futures Past stories involve Franklin at times. A person never knows. Reed and Sue's kid could appear to send Kitty Pryde into the past. Or, as a mutant, he could make any sort of cameo in the upcoming 2014 movie. Maybe, Reed and Sue send him to
Reed and Sue have a kid called Franklin. He would be born after their wedding in Rise of the Silver Surfer. Sometimes, Franklin, a very powerful mutant, plays around with time travel and reality bending (e.g. Heroes Reborn). The canonical Day of Futures Past stories involve Franklin at times. A person never knows. Reed and Sue's kid could appear to send Kitty Pryde into the past. Or, as a mutant, he could make any sort of cameo in the upcoming 2014 movie. Maybe, Reed and Sue send him to Xavier's school for training; in the comics, they send him to the Power family and the Power Pack kids. Tattletale's sister Valeria is also the Richards' kid, and she does also the time travel thing.
IOW, The X-Men and the Fantastic Four do have an established connection in the story that Singer tells us in July, 2014.
But, the FF's children and the Children of the Atom can meet-up or not. I do not care. Simply, give me a great Fantastic Four reboot or part three.
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11:02AM on 02/24/2013
All that trivia & you leave out that Franklin grew up to be Cable...
All that trivia & you leave out that Franklin grew up to be Cable...
4:18AM on 02/23/2013
Let 'em do a couple of decent F4 movies and not screw up X-Men in the mean time before they even think about doing a crossover story. If we don't get a CGI Thing this time I'd question their sanity.
Let 'em do a couple of decent F4 movies and not screw up X-Men in the mean time before they even think about doing a crossover story. If we don't get a CGI Thing this time I'd question their sanity.
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11:32PM on 02/22/2013

Why wait?

If they cast the roles now they can have an FF cameo in the Days of Future Past movie.

Anyway, the article was misleading: there was an X-Men / Fantastic Four miniseries in the late 80s but it had nothing to do with the Mutant Massacre: the Mutant Massacre crossed over with Power Pack and Thor but not the Fantastic Four.
If they cast the roles now they can have an FF cameo in the Days of Future Past movie.

Anyway, the article was misleading: there was an X-Men / Fantastic Four miniseries in the late 80s but it had nothing to do with the Mutant Massacre: the Mutant Massacre crossed over with Power Pack and Thor but not the Fantastic Four.
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2:45AM on 02/23/2013
Knowledge dropped.
Knowledge dropped.
9:47PM on 02/22/2013
Yep, feels like they're desperate to capture some Disney/Marvel Studios magic.

Would be cool if they did the Days of Future PRESENT story. Would be a good time to introduce Cable...
Yep, feels like they're desperate to capture some Disney/Marvel Studios magic.

Would be cool if they did the Days of Future PRESENT story. Would be a good time to introduce Cable...
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9:16PM on 02/22/2013

Cool

I never liked the idea of a Xmen crossover with other comic book titles. Since all the Xmen characters (theoretically) have the X Gene, then why doesnt any Spiderman character or Iron Man character? Aren't they suppose to be in the same universe? Thats mostly why i dont want to see any Xmen in Avengers, the universes are both so extensive there is no need to cross over the film franchises. It would just get muddled.

However, If it's only Fantastic Four that is getting the crossover, i'm
I never liked the idea of a Xmen crossover with other comic book titles. Since all the Xmen characters (theoretically) have the X Gene, then why doesnt any Spiderman character or Iron Man character? Aren't they suppose to be in the same universe? Thats mostly why i dont want to see any Xmen in Avengers, the universes are both so extensive there is no need to cross over the film franchises. It would just get muddled.

However, If it's only Fantastic Four that is getting the crossover, i'm very much ok with that. Thats a franchise that could really benefit of introducing an X Gene and its a small addition. This is good news to my ears
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11:19PM on 02/22/2013
A lot of people make the analogy with homosexuality. There is evidence that homosexuality has a genetic cause but not everybody who carries the genes for homosexuality is gay. The same logic seems to apply to mutants: if people are mutants because they carry the X-gene then they must have inherited the X-gene from their parents even though their parents weren't mutants. As there are mutants of all races in the X-Men universe (both comics and movies) then the X-gene must be fairly prevalent
A lot of people make the analogy with homosexuality. There is evidence that homosexuality has a genetic cause but not everybody who carries the genes for homosexuality is gay. The same logic seems to apply to mutants: if people are mutants because they carry the X-gene then they must have inherited the X-gene from their parents even though their parents weren't mutants. As there are mutants of all races in the X-Men universe (both comics and movies) then the X-gene must be fairly prevalent across the population. This is actually something that came up in the comics once: the Sentinels developed a test for the X-gene and realized that there were mutants EVERYWHERE because there were people who carried the X-gene who didn't have powers but if you want to get rid of mutants is it enough to kill mutants or do you also have to kill the humans that carry the X-gene? The very first Marvel comic co-written by Chris Charemont also touched on this issue: the Sentinels questioned the whole notion of what a mutant was based on the argument that humans evolved from lower primates and thus are all mutants. Chris Claremont also introduced the terms "homo superior" and "latent mutant" to describe a mutant who hasn't developed any powers: his idea was that most mutants developed powers when they reached puberty. Again, Claremont may have deliberately been making a subtle analogy with homosexuality seeing as how puberty is when people become sexuality mature and develop an interest in the opposite sex... or not.
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8:10PM on 02/22/2013

Neato!

I'd be more excited if FF was under Marvel Studios and crossing over with the Avengers, BUT I think I can live with this. Bring it on! It's good to see how much of an impact the Avengers has had on the Superhero film genre too.
I'd be more excited if FF was under Marvel Studios and crossing over with the Avengers, BUT I think I can live with this. Bring it on! It's good to see how much of an impact the Avengers has had on the Superhero film genre too.
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7:39PM on 02/22/2013
I simply HATE everything Mark Millar has to say. Remember when he was a great writer who didn't run his mouth every ten minutes? After the Cavietzel Superman "guarantee" and the promise that X-Men 3 would be great and Ratner would ascend to told-ya-so godhood, and also that the Wanted movie would perfectly capture the comic, and when he posted that pic of a child molester to compare the man to DC's Paul Levitz...I simply can't listen to him anymore.
I simply HATE everything Mark Millar has to say. Remember when he was a great writer who didn't run his mouth every ten minutes? After the Cavietzel Superman "guarantee" and the promise that X-Men 3 would be great and Ratner would ascend to told-ya-so godhood, and also that the Wanted movie would perfectly capture the comic, and when he posted that pic of a child molester to compare the man to DC's Paul Levitz...I simply can't listen to him anymore.
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7:34PM on 02/22/2013
As said below your comment on the first 2 FF's is way off.

Happy to hear production is moving forward, but it seems pretty slow, since they announced the reboot we have had other comic book movies start production, casting, and filming started, would be cool to start reading some of the short lists for actors they have in mind.
As said below your comment on the first 2 FF's is way off.

Happy to hear production is moving forward, but it seems pretty slow, since they announced the reboot we have had other comic book movies start production, casting, and filming started, would be cool to start reading some of the short lists for actors they have in mind.
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8:51PM on 02/22/2013
I feel the casting for this film is going to be REALLY important. I mean casting in any movie is really important, but for an ensemble superhero team film like this they need to find the right actors to complement one another.

I really hope that some of my personal favorite actors make the short lists. For example Jensen Ackles for Johnny Storm or Charlie Hunnam for Johnny Storm.
I feel the casting for this film is going to be REALLY important. I mean casting in any movie is really important, but for an ensemble superhero team film like this they need to find the right actors to complement one another.

I really hope that some of my personal favorite actors make the short lists. For example Jensen Ackles for Johnny Storm or Charlie Hunnam for Johnny Storm.
2:50AM on 02/23/2013
Yeah I don't know why but I have always thought Ethan Hawke would be a great choice for Reed Richards.
Yeah I don't know why but I have always thought Ethan Hawke would be a great choice for Reed Richards.
6:36PM on 02/22/2013
in a perfect world, Marval Studios would have all their character rights back.
in a perfect world, Marval Studios would have all their character rights back.
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6:24PM on 02/22/2013
Very excited for this film. The Fantastic Four are superheroes that deserve a couple of great films and with their powers there are a endless amount of ways that they can use those powers and these characters to make a great film.

And by the way, the Fantastic Four films are far from the worst superhero films. Have you seen the first two Ghost Rider films? The first two Fantastic Four films are way better than the first two Ghost Rider films.
Very excited for this film. The Fantastic Four are superheroes that deserve a couple of great films and with their powers there are a endless amount of ways that they can use those powers and these characters to make a great film.

And by the way, the Fantastic Four films are far from the worst superhero films. Have you seen the first two Ghost Rider films? The first two Fantastic Four films are way better than the first two Ghost Rider films.
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7:10PM on 02/22/2013
I agree. I mean, the FF movies weren on Dark Knight level, everyone knows that, but they were entertaining and family friendly.

Now, its Fox turn to do something bigger and better and with more style. Im sure Josh will bring something really great this time, just like Matthew did with First Class. This is great news, Matthew producing both franchises. Interesting, Fox...
I agree. I mean, the FF movies weren on Dark Knight level, everyone knows that, but they were entertaining and family friendly.

Now, its Fox turn to do something bigger and better and with more style. Im sure Josh will bring something really great this time, just like Matthew did with First Class. This is great news, Matthew producing both franchises. Interesting, Fox...
6:37PM on 02/23/2013
I also agree.. People like throwing words like Worst and Terrible around likes it's cool. The FANTASTIC FOUR movies may have not been spectacular films but they were far from Terrible. I would say they were Mediocre. You want to see a Terrible movie, rent THE BOX..
I also agree.. People like throwing words like Worst and Terrible around likes it's cool. The FANTASTIC FOUR movies may have not been spectacular films but they were far from Terrible. I would say they were Mediocre. You want to see a Terrible movie, rent THE BOX..
5:28PM on 02/22/2013
I think a crossover between XMen and FF is more reasonable that a JLA movie. Yes, please...
I think a crossover between XMen and FF is more reasonable that a JLA movie. Yes, please...
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8:43PM on 02/22/2013
lol
It would be interesting, for sure, but I dont see it at all, specially done by Fox. Its too ambitious of a proyect. I doubt Singer or Matthew would want to do that either.
still hoping to read the official announcement of Justice League finally. Hopefully on June
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It would be interesting, for sure, but I dont see it at all, specially done by Fox. Its too ambitious of a proyect. I doubt Singer or Matthew would want to do that either.
still hoping to read the official announcement of Justice League finally. Hopefully on June
5:01PM on 02/22/2013

Ok for a good FF movie

but a crossover with the X-movies ? I don't think so. There's enough mutants to develop 10 movies, no need for the FF. And what if there's an alien invasion ? well, The Avengers already took care of that. They would have to find an other threat.
Which makes me think... what else than an alien invasion could they find if they ever make that JLA movie ?
but a crossover with the X-movies ? I don't think so. There's enough mutants to develop 10 movies, no need for the FF. And what if there's an alien invasion ? well, The Avengers already took care of that. They would have to find an other threat.
Which makes me think... what else than an alien invasion could they find if they ever make that JLA movie ?
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4:58PM on 02/22/2013
I'm neutral on this for now :p
I'm neutral on this for now :p
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4:58PM on 02/22/2013

man, i'm bummed breaking bad is ending. let's do it:

Mr. Fantastic: Bryan Cranston
Invisible Woman: Anna Gunn
Human Torch: Aaron Paul
The Thing: Dean Norris
Mr. Fantastic: Bryan Cranston
Invisible Woman: Anna Gunn
Human Torch: Aaron Paul
The Thing: Dean Norris
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7:27PM on 02/22/2013
How about no.
How about no.
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4:56PM on 02/22/2013

man, i'm bummed breaking bad is ending. let's do it:

Mr. Fantastic: Bryan Cranston
Invisible Woman: Anna Gunn
Human Torch: Aaron Paul
The Thing: Dean Norris
Mr. Fantastic: Bryan Cranston
Invisible Woman: Anna Gunn
Human Torch: Aaron Paul
The Thing: Dean Norris
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4:50PM on 02/22/2013

chris evans was a better human torch than he is a captain america

truth.
truth.
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4:49PM on 02/22/2013

dear alex malady

"The Tim Story movies are quite possibly the worst of the modern superhero films. "

Ummmm Electra & Jonah Hex?? (also Green Lantern & Daredevil & Ghost RIder were arguably worse than the first F4)

"This move clearly suggests that Millar and Fox are getting their ducks in a row for some sort of AVENGERS-type crossover with the properties they have under their control... The possibility is clearly in play now, otherwise why gain consistency across all series as they seem to be
"The Tim Story movies are quite possibly the worst of the modern superhero films. "

Ummmm Electra & Jonah Hex?? (also Green Lantern & Daredevil & Ghost RIder were arguably worse than the first F4)

"This move clearly suggests that Millar and Fox are getting their ducks in a row for some sort of AVENGERS-type crossover with the properties they have under their control... The possibility is clearly in play now, otherwise why gain consistency across all series as they seem to be doing?"

'clearly suggests'? chill out dude. this just means that they want established guns working on their incredibly valuable licenses... If Marvel's (studio's/Avenger's) success has done anything it's increased the incentive for Fox and Sony to hold onto their franchises, and the best way to maximize their value is to make... better movies...

that having been said a crossover could be cool, but will probably be a mess. Let's get these franchises (which are both already ensembles) back on track.
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4:47PM on 02/22/2013

man, i'm bummed breaking bad is ending. let's do it:

Mr. Fantastic: Bryan Cranston
Invisible Woman: Anna Gunn
Human Torch: Aaron Paul
The Thing: Dean Norris
Mr. Fantastic: Bryan Cranston
Invisible Woman: Anna Gunn
Human Torch: Aaron Paul
The Thing: Dean Norris
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4:47PM on 02/22/2013
This just doesnt excite me the way the Avengers did when it was first announced, will def have to wait and see how days of futures past and the new FF movie turns out before i can get excited about this
This just doesnt excite me the way the Avengers did when it was first announced, will def have to wait and see how days of futures past and the new FF movie turns out before i can get excited about this
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4:37PM on 02/22/2013
Blah reboot blah blah.
Blah reboot blah blah.
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