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Michael Bay talks Transformers 3 and will take criticism for TF2

06.10.2010

All Michael Bay wants to do is give us a good quality TRANSFORMERS film that will entertain the shit out of us.

He's more than just the guy behind, or um, in front of the explosions. He's humble, caring, and even willing to take some flack for REVENGE OF THE FALLEN. "I'll take some of the criticism. It was very hard to put (the sequel) together that quickly after the writers' strike (of 2007-08)," so said Bay while standing at a set built to resemble a dilapidated nuclear reactor. Producer for the TRANSFORMERS films, Lorenzo di Bonaventura elaborated on the rush job, "We tried to do too many things in the second movie, which didn't give enough time in any one of them. We were constantly jumping to the next piece of information, the next place."

All excuses for TF2 aside, they are hoping to learn from their mistakes and move forward on the third film. Bay starts by saying, "This one really builds to a final crescendo. It's not three multiple endings." He then moves on to reveal the villain for the third installment, Shockwave.

We already knew that the "racist" robot twins were gone, but so is all of the "dorky comedy," as Bay calls it. However, John Turturro is staying.

Expect Shia LaBeouf to reach manhood. di Bonaventura even quotes one of Sam Witwicky's magnificent lines, "You know, I've saved the world twice, but I can't get a job." On the subject of LaBeouf, he admits to missing Megan Fox, but says that their characters were becoming one and that it's time to discover things from a new perspective.

This is a slight look into the plot of the film, "it delves into the space race between the U.S.S.R. and the USA, suggesting there was a hidden Transformers role in it all that remains one of the planet's most dangerous secrets." Bay says that it's a bit mysterious and, "ties in what we know as history growing up as kids with what really happened."

Bay ends on this note, "As a trilogy, it really ends. It could be rebooted again, but I think it has a really killer ending."

And yes, it will be in 3D.

Extra Tidbit: Bay also said that the villain from the second film, The Fallen was, "kind of a shit character".
Source: USA Today

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11:24PM on 06/12/2010

Transformers 3: National Treasure

When are they confirming Nicholas Cage?
When are they confirming Nicholas Cage?
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10:59AM on 06/12/2010

You know...

I'd LIKE to believe Michael Bay. I would. I enjoyed the first film. I absolutely loathed the second. If he can do something on par with the first, if not better, good.
As for the claim that the "dorky comedy" is gone, I'm calling bullshit on that. He'll retain the stupid sexual, drug, and racial attempts at humor that he's made a stamp on this franchise with. So I don't know who he thinks he's fooling as far as that goes.
As for the claim that the Twins aren't in it? Hopefully. But he only
I'd LIKE to believe Michael Bay. I would. I enjoyed the first film. I absolutely loathed the second. If he can do something on par with the first, if not better, good.
As for the claim that the "dorky comedy" is gone, I'm calling bullshit on that. He'll retain the stupid sexual, drug, and racial attempts at humor that he's made a stamp on this franchise with. So I don't know who he thinks he's fooling as far as that goes.
As for the claim that the Twins aren't in it? Hopefully. But he only said the Twins aren't in it, he never said anything about not having other racially stereotypical characters to take their place.
At least have the Autobots and Decepticons in bigger roles rather than the guest stars of their own movie. I don't give a crap about the adventures of Sam Witwicky and his wacky parents.
Like I said, I'd LIKE to believe Bay, but he promised a lot of things about the second film, and look how that ended up.
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5:30AM on 06/12/2010

Well...

All of my issues have been addressed. Hated Megan Fox (except for that oh so nice ass) and with a good script and a little less goofing off this could be pretty good. Godspeed Bay!
All of my issues have been addressed. Hated Megan Fox (except for that oh so nice ass) and with a good script and a little less goofing off this could be pretty good. Godspeed Bay!
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6:47PM on 06/11/2010
Dude, no Unicron?!!!
Dude, no Unicron?!!!
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6:31PM on 06/11/2010
Interesting news. Getting exicted now. I hope that when the movie comes out, it kicks ass.
Interesting news. Getting exicted now. I hope that when the movie comes out, it kicks ass.
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3:49PM on 06/11/2010
Say what you will TF1 was pretty decent and The Island is downright awesome, yes hes made some shit but theres a couple of decent gems in there. As for TF3 im gaining hope.. Megan Fox was worthless in both of them so I wont miss her, and sounds like he learned his lesson after that POS ROTF so im still skeptical but a tad excited.
Say what you will TF1 was pretty decent and The Island is downright awesome, yes hes made some shit but theres a couple of decent gems in there. As for TF3 im gaining hope.. Megan Fox was worthless in both of them so I wont miss her, and sounds like he learned his lesson after that POS ROTF so im still skeptical but a tad excited.
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3:27PM on 06/11/2010
This movie is fucked already.

The addition of 3D and No Megan Fox in sight is already 2 strikes against this.
This movie is fucked already.

The addition of 3D and No Megan Fox in sight is already 2 strikes against this.
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2:18PM on 06/11/2010
It looks like Bay is holding a comically large megaphone in that picture.
It looks like Bay is holding a comically large megaphone in that picture.
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9:59AM on 06/11/2010

In 3D? Really?

The only thing I ever agreed with regarding Michael Bay was his anti-3D opinion.

His "quick edit" type of filmmaking will NOT work well in 3-D!!!
The only thing I ever agreed with regarding Michael Bay was his anti-3D opinion.

His "quick edit" type of filmmaking will NOT work well in 3-D!!!
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7:19AM on 06/11/2010
as far as the Transformers franchise goes, itīs been sucking major ass since the first one, the second got even worse and i have a feeling this one will be the mother of all fuckups like they say :D
and on top of that, this will probably be one of those "Alice 3D", you know, not filmed in 3D but later on converted to it, so it will probably suck ass :S

btw, i relly liked the twins, awesome jokes they had :P
as far as the Transformers franchise goes, itīs been sucking major ass since the first one, the second got even worse and i have a feeling this one will be the mother of all fuckups like they say :D
and on top of that, this will probably be one of those "Alice 3D", you know, not filmed in 3D but later on converted to it, so it will probably suck ass :S

btw, i relly liked the twins, awesome jokes they had :P
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7:12AM on 06/11/2010
I think Bay has done a decent job on the Transformers movies. Yes, TF2 was a let down in many, many ways, but it also had some great action scenes that snuck in there. (Best scene IMO was the forest scene) TF1 IMO was right on the money. He reinvented transformers from boxy toy things to out of this world transforming robots with a good storyline for what transformers is all about.

If Bay understands what went wrong in TF2 (which he seems he does) then I have great faith for TF3.
I think Bay has done a decent job on the Transformers movies. Yes, TF2 was a let down in many, many ways, but it also had some great action scenes that snuck in there. (Best scene IMO was the forest scene) TF1 IMO was right on the money. He reinvented transformers from boxy toy things to out of this world transforming robots with a good storyline for what transformers is all about.

If Bay understands what went wrong in TF2 (which he seems he does) then I have great faith for TF3.
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4:32AM on 06/11/2010
Whatever, all I can hope is that 20 years from now a true fan will make a legit Transformers movie. At least Bay's willing to admit how much ROTF sucked, this ones plot even sounds okay. Being set in the USSR means no desert and that's a good start.
Whatever, all I can hope is that 20 years from now a true fan will make a legit Transformers movie. At least Bay's willing to admit how much ROTF sucked, this ones plot even sounds okay. Being set in the USSR means no desert and that's a good start.
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4:30AM on 06/11/2010

This man.....

needs to go away
needs to go away
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3:29AM on 06/11/2010

BUT

It's not being filmed in 3D! WTF guys! First Megan, now this? RIP T3. With your soon-to-be $1 Billion.
It's not being filmed in 3D! WTF guys! First Megan, now this? RIP T3. With your soon-to-be $1 Billion.
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2:32AM on 06/11/2010

when we gettin a Bad Boys 3?

I don't care what people say I really liked T2. I also thought The Fallen was a cool villian, but if Bay thinks he can do better then more power to him!
I don't care what people say I really liked T2. I also thought The Fallen was a cool villian, but if Bay thinks he can do better then more power to him!
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2:29AM on 06/11/2010

Know what I'm tired of?

People blaming the Writer's Strike.

If you're a good writer, you shouldn't be making crap stories and crap screenplays... and you should also be able to make good ones in a matter of weeks.

I'm starting to think the bane of great fare coming out of Hollywood is the quality of the writers and their imaginations.
People blaming the Writer's Strike.

If you're a good writer, you shouldn't be making crap stories and crap screenplays... and you should also be able to make good ones in a matter of weeks.

I'm starting to think the bane of great fare coming out of Hollywood is the quality of the writers and their imaginations.
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2:25AM on 06/11/2010

It made a crapload of $!

"...they are hoping to learn from their mistakes..."
They made mountains upon mountains of money.
I know the T2 sucked, but you would think they wouldn't change their formula considerin' how much bank they pulled in.
"...they are hoping to learn from their mistakes..."
They made mountains upon mountains of money.
I know the T2 sucked, but you would think they wouldn't change their formula considerin' how much bank they pulled in.
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1:47AM on 06/11/2010
No twins is good, seems like he is moving away from the gimmick silly chaarcters.

But Shockwave as the main villian....I dunno, he was a good character from the old cartoons, but he was still Megatrons bitch. I can't speak for everyone, but i'm sure we were all hoping to see Unicron on the big screen.
No twins is good, seems like he is moving away from the gimmick silly chaarcters.

But Shockwave as the main villian....I dunno, he was a good character from the old cartoons, but he was still Megatrons bitch. I can't speak for everyone, but i'm sure we were all hoping to see Unicron on the big screen.
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1:17AM on 06/11/2010
I never got the hate thrown at Bay. The man makes entertaining movies where all you have to do is turn your brain off. If you don't like it, leave it.

That said, TF2 was still a shit storm. But you have to give Bay some credit for taking some of the blame and being honest with his audience.
I never got the hate thrown at Bay. The man makes entertaining movies where all you have to do is turn your brain off. If you don't like it, leave it.

That said, TF2 was still a shit storm. But you have to give Bay some credit for taking some of the blame and being honest with his audience.
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4:59AM on 06/11/2010
As with Shia's "bold" admission a few weeks back, I'd have given him more credit if he'd had the stones to do it when the film came out. It's made its money now.
As with Shia's "bold" admission a few weeks back, I'd have given him more credit if he'd had the stones to do it when the film came out. It's made its money now.
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1:16AM on 06/11/2010
3D, huh? And here I thought Bay might actually have been stubborn enough to resist. Oh, well.
3D, huh? And here I thought Bay might actually have been stubborn enough to resist. Oh, well.
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12:53AM on 06/11/2010

Beefcake!!!

I love 3D, so Bay better get a slower editor or else give his current one a big bag of weed and just slow it all down so we can actaully SEE what's going on.
I actually think shooting in 3D will force Bay to think about his shots more and not rely on blitzkrieg editing to give the illusion of excitement, hopefully he can actually crate excitement rather than just elude to it. Cause I found ROTF boring as f*@k, for a film that loud and kinetic to bore me, the fault lies in the director.
I love 3D, so Bay better get a slower editor or else give his current one a big bag of weed and just slow it all down so we can actaully SEE what's going on.
I actually think shooting in 3D will force Bay to think about his shots more and not rely on blitzkrieg editing to give the illusion of excitement, hopefully he can actually crate excitement rather than just elude to it. Cause I found ROTF boring as f*@k, for a film that loud and kinetic to bore me, the fault lies in the director.
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12:50AM on 06/11/2010

Ummm he's let us down way more than once

Michael Bay has been on the shit coaster since Armageddon. The Rock, and Bad Boys were fantastic, then he got an even bigger ego. TF and TF 2 were fucking horrible, and I don't understand how anyone can excuse the 2 1/2 hour run time of the 2nd one and say it was enjoyable. Good lord that move was seriously crap. 3d yay! I can't wait....Here comes the awesome excuses from fanboys "turn your brain off" "It's not Citizen Kane!" "Its a summer movie, what did you expect?" I love those.
Michael Bay has been on the shit coaster since Armageddon. The Rock, and Bad Boys were fantastic, then he got an even bigger ego. TF and TF 2 were fucking horrible, and I don't understand how anyone can excuse the 2 1/2 hour run time of the 2nd one and say it was enjoyable. Good lord that move was seriously crap. 3d yay! I can't wait....Here comes the awesome excuses from fanboys "turn your brain off" "It's not Citizen Kane!" "Its a summer movie, what did you expect?" I love those.
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12:37AM on 06/11/2010

First one sucked hard...

I haven't seen the second one. I won't see the third. Next!
I haven't seen the second one. I won't see the third. Next!
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10:49PM on 06/10/2010

Cannot Wait!

I've said it before, I'll say it again: I enjoyed Transformers, and I enjoyed TF2, despite knowing all too well that it was a pile of garbage. I like to call it "awesome garbage". Ignore the plothole-y story, the dumbass humans, over-the-top comedy, and you have on your platter a delicious serving of visual awesomeness. TF3 will be, without doubt, an even bigger visual extravaganza. I don't trust Bay when he says he's ending the trilogy because everyone knows he could go all the way to TF17.
I've said it before, I'll say it again: I enjoyed Transformers, and I enjoyed TF2, despite knowing all too well that it was a pile of garbage. I like to call it "awesome garbage". Ignore the plothole-y story, the dumbass humans, over-the-top comedy, and you have on your platter a delicious serving of visual awesomeness. TF3 will be, without doubt, an even bigger visual extravaganza. I don't trust Bay when he says he's ending the trilogy because everyone knows he could go all the way to TF17. All I know is, TF3 will be the biggest popcorn flick of the summer and I'll have a blast watching it no matter how it turns out to be. Bring it on!
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11:41AM on 06/11/2010
It's hard to enjoy a "visual extravaganza" when you're looking at Shia walking through robot heaven, a giant hanging robot scrotum, and a pair of racist autobots.
It's hard to enjoy a "visual extravaganza" when you're looking at Shia walking through robot heaven, a giant hanging robot scrotum, and a pair of racist autobots.
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10:30PM on 06/10/2010
Will Starscream and Megatron be back?
Will Starscream and Megatron be back?
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9:52PM on 06/10/2010

Sigh

I really liked the first one. I absolutely hated the second, and now I don't really care at all about this series.

But I guess I'll see this...
I really liked the first one. I absolutely hated the second, and now I don't really care at all about this series.

But I guess I'll see this...
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9:21PM on 06/10/2010

3D

It can't be any worse than the 2nd! Shit, I hope not. That would be a sign of the near apocalypse, i think.
Anyhoo. I'm pretty sure this ISN'T gonna be in 3D. Bay hates it and the way he edits his movies it would cause one hell of a fucking headache. 3D needs editing with cuts longer than 2 secs for in order for the brain to register it.
But hey - bring the shiz!
It can't be any worse than the 2nd! Shit, I hope not. That would be a sign of the near apocalypse, i think.
Anyhoo. I'm pretty sure this ISN'T gonna be in 3D. Bay hates it and the way he edits his movies it would cause one hell of a fucking headache. 3D needs editing with cuts longer than 2 secs for in order for the brain to register it.
But hey - bring the shiz!
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9:18PM on 06/10/2010
Well, at least Bay now takes the criticism of Transformers 2. I too didn't like the direction of that movie but it was still fun popcorn movie to watch. If Bay said he has a killer ending in mind for Transformers 3, I personally think some characters are going to die. Or maybe Megan Fox comes back and kick the crap out of Shia, hahaha.
Well, at least Bay now takes the criticism of Transformers 2. I too didn't like the direction of that movie but it was still fun popcorn movie to watch. If Bay said he has a killer ending in mind for Transformers 3, I personally think some characters are going to die. Or maybe Megan Fox comes back and kick the crap out of Shia, hahaha.
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9:18PM on 06/10/2010

The bad humor...

I hated the humor in TF2, but I've come to realise that if I was a 14 year old boy, I probably would have found it hilarious. That's who it was aimed at, and not me.

I found TF2 to be a jumble of random headache inducing explosions by the end, and I suspect that's because I am just getting old.

Maybe I should just go see Art House period dramas from now on.
I hated the humor in TF2, but I've come to realise that if I was a 14 year old boy, I probably would have found it hilarious. That's who it was aimed at, and not me.

I found TF2 to be a jumble of random headache inducing explosions by the end, and I suspect that's because I am just getting old.

Maybe I should just go see Art House period dramas from now on.
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9:03PM on 06/10/2010

All you haters will see it..

I'm excited for TF3 despite the last movie and all you haters will go see the next one, I guarantee it. I like that Bay came out and said all this though.
I'm excited for TF3 despite the last movie and all you haters will go see the next one, I guarantee it. I like that Bay came out and said all this though.
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5:55AM on 06/11/2010
Unless I hear REALLY good things about the next one, I REFUSE to see Transformers 3 in theaters, if at all. Trans2 was pretty hated, so I wonder how the third's box office will be effected.
Unless I hear REALLY good things about the next one, I REFUSE to see Transformers 3 in theaters, if at all. Trans2 was pretty hated, so I wonder how the third's box office will be effected.
6:17AM on 06/11/2010
I wish people would stop using the word "hater." It's such a lame net term. No I will not be seeing this.
I wish people would stop using the word "hater." It's such a lame net term. No I will not be seeing this.
11:44AM on 06/11/2010
Yeah who the hell says "haters" anymore - 12 year old white kids, that's who. There is no way I will pay money to see this. If it pops up on Cinemax I may watch it while taking a huge dump (yes I have a TV in my bathroom)
Yeah who the hell says "haters" anymore - 12 year old white kids, that's who. There is no way I will pay money to see this. If it pops up on Cinemax I may watch it while taking a huge dump (yes I have a TV in my bathroom)
9:01PM on 06/10/2010

The best way for this trilogy to end...

Is for the Autobots and Decepticons to somehow get sent back to pre-historic times and it can segue in a Beast Wars movie.
Is for the Autobots and Decepticons to somehow get sent back to pre-historic times and it can segue in a Beast Wars movie.
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8:44PM on 06/10/2010
Apologize all you want Bay. Won't make the movies good automatically, and won't make me want to see TF3 any time soon.
Apologize all you want Bay. Won't make the movies good automatically, and won't make me want to see TF3 any time soon.
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8:41PM on 06/10/2010

I'm gonna Godwin the shit out of this...

Would you accept it if Hitler accepted SOME of the flack for killing millions of people and going to war? Would you line up for Hitler's NEXT war? Would you thumbs-down this Strikeback for going totally over the top? Well fair play if you do, but the fact remains, Bay is and always has been wrong for the material, producing two execrable movies.
Would you accept it if Hitler accepted SOME of the flack for killing millions of people and going to war? Would you line up for Hitler's NEXT war? Would you thumbs-down this Strikeback for going totally over the top? Well fair play if you do, but the fact remains, Bay is and always has been wrong for the material, producing two execrable movies.
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9:03PM on 06/10/2010
are you REALLY comparing Transformers 2 to the Holocaust?
are you REALLY comparing Transformers 2 to the Holocaust?
11:06PM on 06/10/2010
He's not comparing. He's simply using the socratic method of trying to explain a truth, and that truth is that TF2 sucked nuts.
He's not comparing. He's simply using the socratic method of trying to explain a truth, and that truth is that TF2 sucked nuts.
5:32AM on 06/11/2010
I hope everyone that gave this post a thumbs down was doing it in irony.

Because I'm pretty sure the guy wasn't even half serious about comparing Bay to Hitler.....unlike Megan Fox who lost her job over it.
I hope everyone that gave this post a thumbs down was doing it in irony.

Because I'm pretty sure the guy wasn't even half serious about comparing Bay to Hitler.....unlike Megan Fox who lost her job over it.
9:34AM on 06/11/2010
I'd hoped that "I'm gonna Godwin the shit out of this..." would set the tone appropriately. No offence meant to anyone but Bay.
I'd hoped that "I'm gonna Godwin the shit out of this..." would set the tone appropriately. No offence meant to anyone but Bay.
8:29PM on 06/10/2010

SHOCKwave, not SOUNDwave

The USA Today story says SHOCKWAVE is the villain, not SOUNDWAVE. IGN says the same thing.
The USA Today story says SHOCKWAVE is the villain, not SOUNDWAVE. IGN says the same thing.
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11:51PM on 06/10/2010
Shockwave would definitely make for a better enemy than a satellite just floating around earth
Shockwave would definitely make for a better enemy than a satellite just floating around earth
12:20AM on 06/11/2010
Derp. Well that sure as hell makes more sense, doesn't it? No clue why I was envisioning a giant purple tape deck as the enemy. Thanks for calling it out!
Derp. Well that sure as hell makes more sense, doesn't it? No clue why I was envisioning a giant purple tape deck as the enemy. Thanks for calling it out!
8:22PM on 06/10/2010

I'll give it a chance for now

Always been into the Space Race and USSR vs USA stuff. And I know 2 may have been better (a lot of films would have) if the writers strike didnt rush everything. Also isnt this the first time Bay has taken flak instead of protecting himself with fighting words?
Always been into the Space Race and USSR vs USA stuff. And I know 2 may have been better (a lot of films would have) if the writers strike didnt rush everything. Also isnt this the first time Bay has taken flak instead of protecting himself with fighting words?
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8:20PM on 06/10/2010
Is it just me, or does he seem to think that both of his previous Transformers films are much more than they are?
Is it just me, or does he seem to think that both of his previous Transformers films are much more than they are?
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8:08PM on 06/10/2010

The last film? Thank God!

I thought it would never end. Phew!
I thought it would never end. Phew!
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8:05PM on 06/10/2010
So what was his excuse for the first one?
So what was his excuse for the first one?
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8:02PM on 06/10/2010

I'm gay for Bay!!!

But as gay as I am for Bay even I had to admit that TF2 was a massive disappointment. I saw it twice opening day and by the second time my brain was about to explode from retardedness. That being said at least he knows it too rather than defending it and seems to be digging deep to do something really good. I haven't lost hope! TF1 was the shit!
But as gay as I am for Bay even I had to admit that TF2 was a massive disappointment. I saw it twice opening day and by the second time my brain was about to explode from retardedness. That being said at least he knows it too rather than defending it and seems to be digging deep to do something really good. I haven't lost hope! TF1 was the shit!
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8:02PM on 06/10/2010

Trilogy????

Honestly, why end the series? Bay said himself that the movies were, plot-wise, predominantly seperate from one another. If he's willing to pick up his game and create a movie that is not restricted through time-constraints then keep up the good work and make 3 more Transformer movies!
Honestly, why end the series? Bay said himself that the movies were, plot-wise, predominantly seperate from one another. If he's willing to pick up his game and create a movie that is not restricted through time-constraints then keep up the good work and make 3 more Transformer movies!
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