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More details on Terminator: Genisys including back-to-back sequel shoots

03.26.2015

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It's no secret that TERMINATOR: GENISYS is the first in a planned trilogy, and while there's been tidbits dropped here and there, let's assemble a bit of what we do know along with some new information. It's worth noting that if you'd rather walk into this new trilogy blind, you'll probably want to avoid the remainder of this article.

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Of course, TERMINATOR: SALVATION was once meant to be the start of something, but the box office dollars (or lack thereof) shot those dreams right out of the sky. Paramount seems to have more faith in GENISYS, however, proof of which was the two dates set aside for GENISYS' successors on May 19, 2017 and June 29, 2018, respectively. Arnold Schwarzenegger himself confirmed that he would be back shooting the sequel next year, and the plan now is to have a continuous 9-month shoot in order to get both sequels in the can. The second film in this new trilogy will also feature Miles Dyson's son as a central figure.

Speaking of characters who get bigger parts down the line, we have J.K. Simmons and Matt Smith. Simmons, as you may recall, plays an alcoholic detective who's been following the case of Sarah Connor and her terminators for 30 years. As he's previously pointed out, he plays a bit part in the first film with room for expansion. Matt Smith, on the other hand, is rumored to take a villainous turn as the "embodiment of Skynet." Arnold made mention of an "ultimate villain" that he had to fight. Could that be a reference to Matt Smith and his forehead? Definitely a possibility!

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Then, of course, there's Arnold's model. We're used to seeing Arnold play the guardian role since TERMINATOR 2: JUDGMENT DAY. That's certainly what we'll see him play as in the bulk of GENISYS, but as Arnold notes, it all varies depending on where we are in the timeline. He states that he's "like a combination of the characters who you have seen in the past. He is a powerful and potentially evil kind of machine that can be very destructive if I see that a there is danger from me or for the victory against the machines. I can switch over to being the protector of Sarah Connor." As you can tell, it looks like things are going to get very "timey wimey" come GENISYS.

So given the amount of time travel done, it also makes sense we're going to see a variety of Time Displacement Machines or TDMs. There will actually be three different models in GENISYS, and all three reflect the time in which they were built as well as who built them. The version we'll see in 1984, for example, will be built by the Terminator and reflect what was available at the time, including an old sewer system with refrigeration units lining the walls.

Paramount Pictures has ambitious plans for this franchise and I'm curious to see how their plans for the sequels will be affected if GENISYS doesn't bring in the dollars. As of now, the trailers paint a pretty vanilla picture of what James Cameron was able to accomplish so well with his Terminator films. In fact, it almost looks like they're taking the kitchen sink approach with GENISYS. I do love the first two Terminator films and am not opposed to more if they can bring a great story to the table. If the sequels to GENISYS are going to happen, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't interested in seeing where they take it. One baby terminator step at a time, though.

TERMINATOR: GENISYS hits theaters on July 1st.

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1:34AM on 03/30/2015
Cash grab, pass.
Cash grab, pass.
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1:31AM on 03/27/2015
I feel like the majority of the people going to see this movie aren't hardcore terminator fans, they're just looking for a good action/sci-fi movie. This seems way too convoluted
I feel like the majority of the people going to see this movie aren't hardcore terminator fans, they're just looking for a good action/sci-fi movie. This seems way too convoluted
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12:42AM on 03/27/2015
I truly don't get all the hate for this movie and its sequels. Yes, Salvation was bad, but did it ruin T1 or T2? Hell no. And neither will this one. That's even if it's bad to begin with. I'm pumped to see Arnold back in it and can't wait to see what they pull off. And the funny thing is that despite all the bitching, everyone who has whined and complained about it will be there to see it on opening day, right along with me.
I truly don't get all the hate for this movie and its sequels. Yes, Salvation was bad, but did it ruin T1 or T2? Hell no. And neither will this one. That's even if it's bad to begin with. I'm pumped to see Arnold back in it and can't wait to see what they pull off. And the funny thing is that despite all the bitching, everyone who has whined and complained about it will be there to see it on opening day, right along with me.
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3:34PM on 03/26/2015
" 9-month shoot in order to get both sequels in the can. "

If its the 'can' i'm thinking of, then thats where the franchise will be and flushed... mercifully

Also nothing will EVER top the T-1000 as the ultimate baddie of the series and YES, including that one with boobs wasn't intimidating enough which I think was the main problem.
" 9-month shoot in order to get both sequels in the can. "

If its the 'can' i'm thinking of, then thats where the franchise will be and flushed... mercifully

Also nothing will EVER top the T-1000 as the ultimate baddie of the series and YES, including that one with boobs wasn't intimidating enough which I think was the main problem.
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9:40PM on 03/26/2015
how can people thumb this comment down? made me lol. Got you out of -3 thumbs down brother.
how can people thumb this comment down? made me lol. Got you out of -3 thumbs down brother.
3:11PM on 03/26/2015
How about this for some details: the Terminator story ended at the conclusion of T2.
How about this for some details: the Terminator story ended at the conclusion of T2.
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2:18PM on 03/26/2015
Am I the only one that is completely confused with what they are trying to achieve here? The plot already seems way more dense than it should be and I can barely even grasp the Arnold quote from above - is he speaking about different versions of the T-800, or just one particular machine that will oscillate between pro-SKYNET and pro-rebellion based on changes to the timeline?

Oh, also, if I were an A.I., I'm pretty sure I wouldn't personify myself and make it easier to find/kill me. I really
Am I the only one that is completely confused with what they are trying to achieve here? The plot already seems way more dense than it should be and I can barely even grasp the Arnold quote from above - is he speaking about different versions of the T-800, or just one particular machine that will oscillate between pro-SKYNET and pro-rebellion based on changes to the timeline?

Oh, also, if I were an A.I., I'm pretty sure I wouldn't personify myself and make it easier to find/kill me. I really think this is just going to be such a huge mess that they'll alienate the majority of the audience that's just looking for a fun actioner.
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2:05PM on 03/26/2015
Sorry but if a Paramount and the producers want to 'create' a franchise by rehashing an already exceptional two film series then we need to see a better product. So far everything looks to be have been done on the cheap with rubbery CGI, poor cinematography and a cast of D-list actors; the only money spent seems to have gone into Arnies pocket and licensing fees. An Asain bad guy couldn't be a more blatant play at the Chinese/Japanese investment return, so obviously there's disregard for
Sorry but if a Paramount and the producers want to 'create' a franchise by rehashing an already exceptional two film series then we need to see a better product. So far everything looks to be have been done on the cheap with rubbery CGI, poor cinematography and a cast of D-list actors; the only money spent seems to have gone into Arnies pocket and licensing fees. An Asain bad guy couldn't be a more blatant play at the Chinese/Japanese investment return, so obviously there's disregard for actual fans of the Cameron films. This will be Salvation all over again until studios start to respect the material and not the marketing behind it
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3:08PM on 03/26/2015
i dont get how Chinese and Japanese investors benefit from a Korean actor cast as the villain, but whatever. they all look the same. i guess the Irish are banking from the casting of Australian white guy Jai Courtney.
i dont get how Chinese and Japanese investors benefit from a Korean actor cast as the villain, but whatever. they all look the same. i guess the Irish are banking from the casting of Australian white guy Jai Courtney.
4:08PM on 03/26/2015
ok Asian investors, is that more suitable for you? The fact being these 'franchises' are not for US audiences, hence your Transformers, Marvel all now have central Asian characters or locations for no reason other than to capitalize on the Asain box office.
ok Asian investors, is that more suitable for you? The fact being these 'franchises' are not for US audiences, hence your Transformers, Marvel all now have central Asian characters or locations for no reason other than to capitalize on the Asain box office.
7:35PM on 03/26/2015
Not for US audiences? Geeez...that's one of the stupidest things I've heard in a looooong time. That's so ridiculous on so many levels. I know big movies will throw in an ORIENTAL actor or setting to get their business too, but what's wrong with that? Why can't a good science fiction action fantasy (any genre) be universally enjoyed? Is another country/continent so different that we all can't sit and watch good guys beat bad guys? Your statement makes them sound like they are a completely
Not for US audiences? Geeez...that's one of the stupidest things I've heard in a looooong time. That's so ridiculous on so many levels. I know big movies will throw in an ORIENTAL actor or setting to get their business too, but what's wrong with that? Why can't a good science fiction action fantasy (any genre) be universally enjoyed? Is another country/continent so different that we all can't sit and watch good guys beat bad guys? Your statement makes them sound like they are a completely different species. That's not even mentioning the fact that the overwhelming majority of Chinese people don't even go to the movies because they are too expensive. They just buy bootleg versions over there. It's not like they have redbox on every corner.

If not for American audiences, why do the actors show up all over Ameican TV the weeks before their movie? From morning to midnight?

When these summer movies make 400-800 millions dollars, how. In. The. Fucking. World. Can. You. Say. They. Aren't marketed to us, and we aren't thought of when they are being made? WHY DO YIU THINK THERE ARE SO MANY SEQUELS AND REMAKES AND GREAT FOREIGN FILMS THAT WE JUST STRAIGHT UP REMAKE?

Yeah, big budget movies try to get as big of an audience as they can. Of course they do. Wouldn't you? They are generally dumbed down for every one of us to enjoy and understand anyway. And I haven't seen the last 2-3 transformers, but your comments also take away the amount of love that is absolutely obvious in a good chunk of marvel movies, if not all. They are making products, but undeniably crafting them with love and pride. Sure, it's a difficult balance to be a product and enjoyable but it can be done.
9:11PM on 03/26/2015
Theres a difference between having characters of various ethnicities and having various ethnicities to pad the bottom line ie an Asain T-1000. International audiences make up somewhere around 75% of the total box office revenue and have saved numerous films from being a loss for studios. Case in point The Avengers only pulled in around $630 million stateside but earned close to $900 million internationally after premiering a week earlier. The Chinese market in particular has surged within the
Theres a difference between having characters of various ethnicities and having various ethnicities to pad the bottom line ie an Asain T-1000. International audiences make up somewhere around 75% of the total box office revenue and have saved numerous films from being a loss for studios. Case in point The Avengers only pulled in around $630 million stateside but earned close to $900 million internationally after premiering a week earlier. The Chinese market in particular has surged within the past few years while American audiences have dwindled, hence why spectacles like Terminator, Fast/Furious, and Marvel films have taken over the multiplex. Dark Kight, Iron Man 3, Transformer 4 are just a recent big examples of Hollywood solely catering to China.
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1:31PM on 03/26/2015

I'm pretty sure....

....it;s not possible for there to be less interest in this film series (that is unless it was named Avatar).
....it;s not possible for there to be less interest in this film series (that is unless it was named Avatar).
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3:06PM on 03/26/2015
Except Avatar was the highest grossing movie of all time and the general masses will be back for James Cameron and his sequels. Numbers don't lie. Even if there is a section of people alienated by the recycled plot of the first, I'd bet about 80% of them still see the sequel (at least part 2).
Except Avatar was the highest grossing movie of all time and the general masses will be back for James Cameron and his sequels. Numbers don't lie. Even if there is a section of people alienated by the recycled plot of the first, I'd bet about 80% of them still see the sequel (at least part 2).
6:45PM on 03/26/2015
Wrong
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1:20PM on 03/26/2015
In a perfect cinematic world, Cameron would come back to direct one more Terminator film and right the franchise.
In a perfect cinematic world, Cameron would come back to direct one more Terminator film and right the franchise.
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3:00PM on 03/26/2015
no, in a perfect cinematic world, there were no more Terminator films after T2.
no, in a perfect cinematic world, there were no more Terminator films after T2.
3:33PM on 03/26/2015
You have a point.
You have a point.
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