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Ah, Warner Bros.  The plight of your superhero stable beyond Batman continues.  Word on the street is now circulating that Will Beall's script for JUSTICE LEAGUE is being received with less than enthusiastic glee.  Beall, who is coming off the recent "meh" of GANGSTER SQUAD was hired to pen the draft, which has yet to attract any kind of big name talent in the director's chair. 

Here's the lowdown from Badass Digest:

"I've now heard from multiple sources that the Will Beall script for JUSTICE LEAGUE has been scrapped. The story from each source is the same: it's terrible. Some sources seem to think the whole movie is going to fall apart and never happen, while some believe that Warner Bros will keep moving forward, unwilling to lose the superhero arms race."

It seems that every single time I hear about the studio trying to get a grip on this project, from that ridiculous incursion into a comic book store to get the "pulse of the nerds" to the announcement of the film itself, which came as nothing but a name and a date, with no talent or direction outlined.  In many ways, the announcement seemed like a competitive one, meant to steal some wind out of Marvel's sails.  Instead it's just kind of blown in the breeze with nothing going.

Recently, Warner Bros. said that they'd be waiting to see how MAN OF STEEL does before moving forward and that may still be the case.  However, by tossing Beall's script, they will have even more work cut out for them, since they'll be taking a big step backwards.  The recent comments by Mark Millar may have stung the nerves of some fans, but they felt pretty dead-on to me and this issue only compounds his statements. 

Hopefully, Warner Bros. will get it together and find a director that can steer the ship and grasp the material soon.  Otherwise, I wouldn't place any money on seeing a JUSTICE LEAGUE film on its proposed 2015 release window, if at all.

Ah, WB, if you'd just pay attention to this series...

Extra Tidbit: Let's hear your solution. How in the HELL can Warner Bros. save this sinking ship?
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4:00PM on 02/07/2013
I'm all for a JL movie. I just don't know how the different characters will each be relevant. That is, if Superman is needed to solve this threat, how will Batman and even Flash stay relevant?

The most logical threat that would make everyone necessary/relevant would be a multi front assault... which suggests alien invasion - which would work except that.... well that was the Avengers.

What OTHER threat could occur that would necessitate all of them coming together and still make everyone
I'm all for a JL movie. I just don't know how the different characters will each be relevant. That is, if Superman is needed to solve this threat, how will Batman and even Flash stay relevant?

The most logical threat that would make everyone necessary/relevant would be a multi front assault... which suggests alien invasion - which would work except that.... well that was the Avengers.

What OTHER threat could occur that would necessitate all of them coming together and still make everyone have their moment?
I don't know, but that is why they don't pay me the big bucks.
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5:01PM on 02/07/2013
Pretty simple, bro.

The same way you make any team movie work, whether that be The Avengers, X-Men 2, Inception, The Lord of the Rings, or what have you. You follow the simple principle of Divide and Conquer. You simply have multiple threats and your heroes have to split up to take care of them all. Sometimes, this involves them fighting an army (Avengers, Lord of the Rings), sometimes it involves them fighting a team of baddies (X-Men: First Class), but it doesn't have to. In fact, in
Pretty simple, bro.

The same way you make any team movie work, whether that be The Avengers, X-Men 2, Inception, The Lord of the Rings, or what have you. You follow the simple principle of Divide and Conquer. You simply have multiple threats and your heroes have to split up to take care of them all. Sometimes, this involves them fighting an army (Avengers, Lord of the Rings), sometimes it involves them fighting a team of baddies (X-Men: First Class), but it doesn't have to. In fact, in doesn't have be a combative threat at all. You just need to find some kind of obstacle that requires the unique skills of your individual characters and find a way to tie them into a cohesive whole. For example what if there were bombs set up all over the city? Flash has to race around the city and diffuse them, but maybe there's one underwater so Aquaman has to take care of that. And Green Lantern and Superman fly up into the sky to take on the bid bad guy and his impenetrable fortress. Green Lantern takes out all the drones while Superman goes off to the climactic fight, meanwhile Batman and Wonder Woman team up to take on his right hand man who has maybe been the main villain thus far while Darkseid or whoever Supes is going to fight has been more lurking in the shadows, just so that the final fight will be that more dramatic.

It wouldn't have to pan out exactly like that or anything, but it's just an example. Or you could go with a much simpler route like having them just all fight Darkseid and his Elite Guard if you just want to have an all-out brawl in the end.
4:02PM on 02/07/2013
As I wrote that, I had a thought - an Amazon invasion where Wonder Woman swaps sides would be cool. They invade the world of man, and then WW has a change of heart... that would be pretty cool - but in essence is just an invasion movie like The Avengers.
As I wrote that, I had a thought - an Amazon invasion where Wonder Woman swaps sides would be cool. They invade the world of man, and then WW has a change of heart... that would be pretty cool - but in essence is just an invasion movie like The Avengers.
4:09PM on 02/07/2013

Animated

It solves every issue. Make a Pixar-level animated DC Justice League film with top-level talent and market it properly.
It solves every issue. Make a Pixar-level animated DC Justice League film with top-level talent and market it properly.
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4:13PM on 02/07/2013

Hahahaha...

"and people have the nerve to look surprised..."
"and people have the nerve to look surprised..."
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4:15PM on 02/07/2013

Two Words to Save This:

Brad Bird. doesn't matter how crappy ppl say the script is. you attach his name to this, and ppl will love it.
Brad Bird. doesn't matter how crappy ppl say the script is. you attach his name to this, and ppl will love it.
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4:29PM on 02/07/2013

Mark Millar is a dumbass, and his statements were not dead on.

There was a time when people said that an Avengers movie couldn't work. Those people just didn't have the imagination to realize that ANYTHING can work with the right talent behind it. Millar is just a self obsessed jackass who isn't creative enough to see that.

WB's problem is that they are too disconnected from DC. Marvel is bringing their properties to life in the purest way. The Avengers was the comic book incarnate.

WB on the other hand doesn't do that. WB is too scared to embrace
There was a time when people said that an Avengers movie couldn't work. Those people just didn't have the imagination to realize that ANYTHING can work with the right talent behind it. Millar is just a self obsessed jackass who isn't creative enough to see that.

WB's problem is that they are too disconnected from DC. Marvel is bringing their properties to life in the purest way. The Avengers was the comic book incarnate.

WB on the other hand doesn't do that. WB is too scared to embrace the comics because they don't know how (Green Lantern for example). Even Nolan's Batman, as good as those films were, completely abandoned the comic book roots. Batman is a detective on the level of Sherlock Holmes, his comics were called 'Detective Comics' for crying out loud, yet WB has yet to even acknowledge this with their Batman films. Dating all the way back to Burton, the Batman movies have always followed the same formula: Batman saves Gotham City.

Marvel made Avengers work because they have the upmost confidence in their material. WB needs to let DC be involved in their films. They need to find talented, creative, and respected filmmakers who genuinely love the comics. For example, Paul Dini has lived and breathed DC for decades, and he is a writer very much on the level of Whedon or Nolan (he even wrote for the excellent Arkham games). Why not give him a shot at the script? I bet anything he could make it work.
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4:43PM on 02/07/2013
I very much agree with your sentiment. My only caveat would be I would certainly include Paul Dini but was a producer rather than a writer, I think he's quite talented and had become a master at what he does, but we're dealing with a different medium here and while I'm sure he could turn out a decent script I wouldn't put him on the same level (yet) as the great screenwriters working today (Jonathan Nolan, Frank Darabont, Scott Frank, etc.). That could all change if he was given the chance and
I very much agree with your sentiment. My only caveat would be I would certainly include Paul Dini but was a producer rather than a writer, I think he's quite talented and had become a master at what he does, but we're dealing with a different medium here and while I'm sure he could turn out a decent script I wouldn't put him on the same level (yet) as the great screenwriters working today (Jonathan Nolan, Frank Darabont, Scott Frank, etc.). That could all change if he was given the chance and had a couple of screenplays under his belt though.
4:35PM on 02/07/2013
To be honest, that is what they deserve for rushing. Marvel had 5 films to establish characters, and gave them heart. Beginning with JL is just bad news bears.
To be honest, that is what they deserve for rushing. Marvel had 5 films to establish characters, and gave them heart. Beginning with JL is just bad news bears.
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4:36PM on 02/07/2013

New 52

The new 52 justice league origin was awesome, following that is how they should go, darkside is more powerful than the league combined, have the heros fear by the public because they are unsure of them, and while it looks like an alien invasion (like avengers) darkside was actually looking for someone, not trying to take over earth so it would be some what different, but WB really needs to push back the release date, get a wonder woman origin and a flash origin going first (maybe even reboot
The new 52 justice league origin was awesome, following that is how they should go, darkside is more powerful than the league combined, have the heros fear by the public because they are unsure of them, and while it looks like an alien invasion (like avengers) darkside was actually looking for someone, not trying to take over earth so it would be some what different, but WB really needs to push back the release date, get a wonder woman origin and a flash origin going first (maybe even reboot green lantern, not overload the movie with villians and let his relationship with Senestro build) batman we know and dont need an origin and not using the martain manhunter is a mistake (maybe he ends up on earth to warn the heros after darkside came to mars?) this is something that can be done, but WB NEEDS TO HIRE COMIC BOOK GUYS or let DC have a certain amount of control, thats why marvels movies work so well, marvel is incharge. Man of Steel looks really good so far, they need to build off of that and not rush this movie just to compete with marvel, really let it come together
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4:37PM on 02/07/2013
"...unwilling to lose the superhero arms race." Seriously? What arms race? This is the equivalent of Switzerland now taking a side in WW2...I'm sorry DC, Marvel won...and that's coming from a Batman fanboy.
"...unwilling to lose the superhero arms race." Seriously? What arms race? This is the equivalent of Switzerland now taking a side in WW2...I'm sorry DC, Marvel won...and that's coming from a Batman fanboy.
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6:24PM on 02/07/2013
Sad but true. I'm a fan of both but ultimately enjoy DC more, but all you can do is applaud what Marvel has been able to do with these multiple franchises and to have them still going strong.
Sad but true. I'm a fan of both but ultimately enjoy DC more, but all you can do is applaud what Marvel has been able to do with these multiple franchises and to have them still going strong.
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5:20PM on 02/07/2013

The J.L. News.........

The Bad News.........IT HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!
The Bad News.........IT HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!
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5:27PM on 02/07/2013
solve it this way. JLU vs Avengers. One massive nonsense movie to even it all out.
Honestly, if Warner and DC want to get this thing off the ground, first step, don't call it a superhero arms race. You're way too many movies behind, just call it what it is, jumping the bandwagon. Next, find real actors, not just fancy names. Find people, even unknowns, who can really make their character realatable instead of celebritized. Next, Find a powerful enemy that isn't 1000000% JLU overpowering.
solve it this way. JLU vs Avengers. One massive nonsense movie to even it all out.
Honestly, if Warner and DC want to get this thing off the ground, first step, don't call it a superhero arms race. You're way too many movies behind, just call it what it is, jumping the bandwagon. Next, find real actors, not just fancy names. Find people, even unknowns, who can really make their character realatable instead of celebritized. Next, Find a powerful enemy that isn't 1000000% JLU overpowering. Finally, abandon all hope and just take your time to do it all properly instead of some asinine 2015 release date when all you have is Man of Steel (possibly batman) ready. Ya know, I always thought if they gave a REAL budget and just had the Smallville crew be the next JLA, things may have worked out better plus give room to improve.
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5:31PM on 02/07/2013
Hopefully they will see this as an excuse to delay Justice League and concentrate on another single hero film.
Hopefully they will see this as an excuse to delay Justice League and concentrate on another single hero film.
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5:47PM on 02/07/2013

What's a DC to do?

The only suggestion I would make is to try a different tactic altogether and NOT try to simply imitate what Marvel is doing. I say include Superman only sparingly, like Mr. Green Machine in The Avengers. The rest of the cast should be made up of little-known DC characters, or else completely new characters. They could make their first appearance in the film AND THEN get their own comics series. There's too much drama with trying to get the biggest and the best altogether at once...and they
The only suggestion I would make is to try a different tactic altogether and NOT try to simply imitate what Marvel is doing. I say include Superman only sparingly, like Mr. Green Machine in The Avengers. The rest of the cast should be made up of little-known DC characters, or else completely new characters. They could make their first appearance in the film AND THEN get their own comics series. There's too much drama with trying to get the biggest and the best altogether at once...and they don't have Joss on their side.
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8:08PM on 02/07/2013
Are you High?
Are you High?
6:23PM on 02/07/2013
Like someone said below, as long as you can get a good director who understands the material like Nolan for Batman, Abrams for Star Trek, and Whedon for Avengers did then this movie should be fine. I want a good action packed story like The Avengers did, but I think the type of success that this film could get really relies on getting a great director who understands the source material.

That's why I think Brad Bird, Duncan Jones, the brothers from The Matrix Trilogy, and Ben Affleck would
Like someone said below, as long as you can get a good director who understands the material like Nolan for Batman, Abrams for Star Trek, and Whedon for Avengers did then this movie should be fine. I want a good action packed story like The Avengers did, but I think the type of success that this film could get really relies on getting a great director who understands the source material.

That's why I think Brad Bird, Duncan Jones, the brothers from The Matrix Trilogy, and Ben Affleck would all be great choices to helm the Justice League.
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6:33PM on 02/07/2013

I've said it before, I'll say it again...


Embrace the fun fantasy elements of the superhero genre.

Some may not like to read it, but if the characters are in fact dated, if you can't bring the characters into the modern age, then bring the age to the characters. Put them in their natural setting, where they originated.

If it's younger audiences that tend to be attracted to the DC characters, then aim the film squarely at them.

Do a Dieselpunk style film set in the 40s or 50s, in the spirit of Sky Captain and the World

Embrace the fun fantasy elements of the superhero genre.

Some may not like to read it, but if the characters are in fact dated, if you can't bring the characters into the modern age, then bring the age to the characters. Put them in their natural setting, where they originated.

If it's younger audiences that tend to be attracted to the DC characters, then aim the film squarely at them.

Do a Dieselpunk style film set in the 40s or 50s, in the spirit of Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow or the Rocketeer or The Phantom. Something very stylized like The Spirit or 300, maybe even bring back the fabric tights.

It could be a return to the genre's original form and offer audiences a starkly different option in the superhero genre from what Marvel is offering, rather than more of the same.
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6:44PM on 02/07/2013

I've said it before, I'll say it again...


Embrace the fun fantasy elements of the superhero genre.

Some may not like to read it, but if the characters are in fact dated, if you can't bring the characters into the modern age, then bring the age to the characters. Put them in their natural setting, where they originated.

If it's younger audiences that tend to be attracted to the DC characters, then aim the film squarely at them.

Do a Dieselpunk style film set in the 40s or 50s, in the spirit of Sky Captain and the World

Embrace the fun fantasy elements of the superhero genre.

Some may not like to read it, but if the characters are in fact dated, if you can't bring the characters into the modern age, then bring the age to the characters. Put them in their natural setting, where they originated.

If it's younger audiences that tend to be attracted to the DC characters, then aim the film squarely at them.

Do a Dieselpunk style film set in the 40s or 50s, in the spirit of Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow or the Rocketeer or The Phantom. Something very stylized like The Spirit or 300, maybe even bring back the fabric tights.

It could be a return to the genre's original form and offer audiences a starkly different option in the superhero genre from what Marvel is offering, rather than more of the same.
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6:53PM on 02/07/2013
Get Batman & Superman movie going. You can add some elements and characters of Justice League in there. If the movie works, then there's a good chance that Justice League movie would work.
Get Batman & Superman movie going. You can add some elements and characters of Justice League in there. If the movie works, then there's a good chance that Justice League movie would work.
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7:19PM on 02/07/2013

Of course...

Nothing will ever beat this...

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Nothing will ever beat this...

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7:20PM on 02/07/2013

What?

I don't think his comments "stung the nerves" of fans as much as they were basically total bullshit. I love both Marvel and DC, but Justice League has at least three characters that are icons above any and everything the Avengers has to offer. Captain America and Iron Man are great characters, but they in no way resonate with the general public the way Superman or Batman or Wonder Woman do.. Iron Man and Captain America could barely keep their own solo comic book series aloft for many years. WB
I don't think his comments "stung the nerves" of fans as much as they were basically total bullshit. I love both Marvel and DC, but Justice League has at least three characters that are icons above any and everything the Avengers has to offer. Captain America and Iron Man are great characters, but they in no way resonate with the general public the way Superman or Batman or Wonder Woman do.. Iron Man and Captain America could barely keep their own solo comic book series aloft for many years. WB may not be able to get this project off the ground, but it has fuck all to do with the nature of Marvel characters vs. DC characters. The Marvel projects have made money because they are good movies. The Nolan Batman films have made money because they are good movies. Green Lantern more or less tanked because it was a crap movie. Marvel had many, many years where the films generated from their properties tanked because they were bad movies. The characters weren't any better or worse, the films were. There is nothing inherent to Justice League or its characters that means it would be any more or less difficult to achieve than the Avengers was. I don't understand that line of reasoning at all.
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7:33PM on 02/07/2013

WB: Hire Bruce Timm, James Tucker, Stan Berkowitz and Paul Dini

It's that simple. Those guys get the Justice League. I've been re-watching the animated series on DVD recently and it blows me away how spot on those guys, and the late, great Dwayne McDuffie, got the characters. Every half hour episode was better than most 2 hour plus live action comic book movies. The story arcs were woven together perfectly and all those 60 year old characters felt exciting, fresh and relevant. If Warners is serious about getting DC on film right, they need to hire these
It's that simple. Those guys get the Justice League. I've been re-watching the animated series on DVD recently and it blows me away how spot on those guys, and the late, great Dwayne McDuffie, got the characters. Every half hour episode was better than most 2 hour plus live action comic book movies. The story arcs were woven together perfectly and all those 60 year old characters felt exciting, fresh and relevant. If Warners is serious about getting DC on film right, they need to hire these guys to run the show.
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7:36PM on 02/07/2013
Bruce Timm should be hired as their Joss Whedon, if only there was a god...
Bruce Timm should be hired as their Joss Whedon, if only there was a god...
8:33PM on 02/07/2013
Gangster Squad had stilted dialogue. No one actually talks like the movie's characters. Only characters in gangster movies talk that way. Perhaps, Justice League had a similar issue. How do people react to the Justice League speaking traditional comic book dialogue? They might think that the script is terrible. Remember, Batman and Robin contained dialogue in the same style as the '60s TV show. Audiences did not receive the film well.
Gangster Squad had stilted dialogue. No one actually talks like the movie's characters. Only characters in gangster movies talk that way. Perhaps, Justice League had a similar issue. How do people react to the Justice League speaking traditional comic book dialogue? They might think that the script is terrible. Remember, Batman and Robin contained dialogue in the same style as the '60s TV show. Audiences did not receive the film well.
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2:16AM on 02/08/2013

Who gives a shit, DC sucks ass. Not interested in the slightest....but more importantly...

...does the Joblo staff read their own material before publishing it?? That first sentence, of the second paragraph, of the writer's article is screaming, SYNTAX. The sentence leaves us hanging with no result to the original point at the opening of the sentence. Re-read it, and tell me otherwise.

Other than that, I do agree with the article in entirety.
...does the Joblo staff read their own material before publishing it?? That first sentence, of the second paragraph, of the writer's article is screaming, SYNTAX. The sentence leaves us hanging with no result to the original point at the opening of the sentence. Re-read it, and tell me otherwise.

Other than that, I do agree with the article in entirety.
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1:09AM on 02/13/2013
He's right.
He's right.
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2:24AM on 02/08/2013
I donīt get it. DC is more than able to adapt their stories for the screen. Their animated features are awesome, featuring fun dialogue, nice character moments and great action scenes. DC also got a bunch of highly talented writers with Dini and Geoff Johns, let them work on a script, they know those characters best.
I donīt get it. DC is more than able to adapt their stories for the screen. Their animated features are awesome, featuring fun dialogue, nice character moments and great action scenes. DC also got a bunch of highly talented writers with Dini and Geoff Johns, let them work on a script, they know those characters best.
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2:32AM on 02/08/2013
DC is too fluffy, that's why. In the DC Universe, everything is good times in the end.
DC is too fluffy, that's why. In the DC Universe, everything is good times in the end.
2:30AM on 02/08/2013
Yep, there's that double post problem with Joblo....
Yep, there's that double post problem with Joblo....
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2:32AM on 02/08/2013

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Let's "here" your solution. REALLY???
Let's "here" your solution. REALLY???
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5:44AM on 02/08/2013

Woo! This movie does not need to be made!

It is going to suck no matter what. Unless they hire people like Paul Dini to write the script it will be crap.
It is going to suck no matter what. Unless they hire people like Paul Dini to write the script it will be crap.
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8:19AM on 02/08/2013

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Here's how they fix it
1) Hire guys who know the characters to write it ( johns , dini ect)
2) Make sure Bruce Timm is envolved as well, hopefully overseeing the whole thing
3)Push back the release date to atleast 2017
4) Man of Steel must make it known there are more heros out there, possibly a Batman cameo (in the new 52 origin Batman mentions studying Superman power levels, maybe he shows up towards the end telling Clark they need to talk
5) Give Wonder Woman and Flash their own movies
Here's how they fix it
1) Hire guys who know the characters to write it ( johns , dini ect)
2) Make sure Bruce Timm is envolved as well, hopefully overseeing the whole thing
3)Push back the release date to atleast 2017
4) Man of Steel must make it known there are more heros out there, possibly a Batman cameo (in the new 52 origin Batman mentions studying Superman power levels, maybe he shows up towards the end telling Clark they need to talk
5) Give Wonder Woman and Flash their own movies first, with Green Lantern popping up in Flash to establish their friendship prior to the league, and Wonder Womans movie should take place entirely on the island, focusing more on her training and how she becomes Wonder Woman.
6) Justice League should be from Batman point of view the way Avengers was from Captain Americas, have him investigating a Para Demon maybe, when the almost dying Martain Manhunter crashes down in Gotham bay, saved by Batman and warns of Apokolips and the coming of Darkside. Agents of Darkside start popping up forcing the heros to work together, and then take on Darkside himself.

More than anything WB/DC needs to build their characters first, get people to like and care about them the way Marvel did, this CAN BE DONE but until WB gets the right people to get everything in order it will continue to fail. Green Lantern failed simply because of bad writing/story telling by someone who didnt understand the movie should have built up Hal and Senestros friendship (and who should have said no to that god awful body suit) Millar said a Flash movie would be stupid, because a guy moving faster than anything against his rouge gallary would be stupid, Mark Millar cant think outside the box. If flash is still learning to use his powers, and clearly he wouldnt be at top speed right off, thats what you should base the movie on, and a guy like mirror master would be perfect because you dont know if your dealing with the real one or just an image....I feel like im starting to drag on so I'll just end with this can be done, but it starts with getting the right people involved.
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9:30AM on 02/08/2013
Wow.. You just nailed it.. That is like the perfect outline for the entire phase 1. If done right, that would play out perfectly.. I would just move up the date to 2016 and keep Ryan Reynolds for continuity's sake.
Wow.. You just nailed it.. That is like the perfect outline for the entire phase 1. If done right, that would play out perfectly.. I would just move up the date to 2016 and keep Ryan Reynolds for continuity's sake.
10:04AM on 02/08/2013

Don't get it...

I don't get the people behind DC. If you want this to be as successful as Marvel why are they doing it differently? Make the individual films that lead to the Justice League and get a competent writer and director to not fuck this up. If they make this film just to have it released in time for Avengers 2, they're fucking stupid and this film is going to blow. Get ready for more rewrites DC.
I don't get the people behind DC. If you want this to be as successful as Marvel why are they doing it differently? Make the individual films that lead to the Justice League and get a competent writer and director to not fuck this up. If they make this film just to have it released in time for Avengers 2, they're fucking stupid and this film is going to blow. Get ready for more rewrites DC.
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10:24AM on 02/08/2013

Nolan!

How to fix it? The first Justice league movie should start where Nolan's Batman left off.
Joseph Gordon Levit would play a "batman beyond" style batman, with a minor role for Bale in an Oracle roll. His suit is more technologically advanced, and he's dealing with the aftermath of Bane's occupation. Getting the prisoners locked up again is an issue because Bane exposed the lie behind the Dent act. Meanwhile the Wayne company has been acquired by LexCorp... which repairs the R&D department and
How to fix it? The first Justice league movie should start where Nolan's Batman left off.
Joseph Gordon Levit would play a "batman beyond" style batman, with a minor role for Bale in an Oracle roll. His suit is more technologically advanced, and he's dealing with the aftermath of Bane's occupation. Getting the prisoners locked up again is an issue because Bane exposed the lie behind the Dent act. Meanwhile the Wayne company has been acquired by LexCorp... which repairs the R&D department and privatizes law enforcement in Gotham... From there you could go any number of routes to involve Superman, and by the end of the movie you've got the newly formed Justice League... with our Blake batman joined up, and our "dead" Wayne fearing the worst, maybe alienated from Blake, and researching the new League's weaknesses... Setting up for the "Doom" storyline.... Justice League 2: Doom... then after Batman assembles the team to fix Doom, the government steps in and disbands the League and outlaws heroes.... Justice League 3: Kingdom Come... you blend the premise of Kindgom Come with a touch of Frank Millar's DK series... Old Batman faces off against Superman, Superman has to build a prison for the new heroes... and Kingdom Come plays out in almost exactly the way the book does...

What's so hard about that? The great stories have already been written. Nolan made the greatest batman stories believable, and borrowed from the best books. Do the same with Justice League and you're golden.
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10:42AM on 02/08/2013
As already pointed out, DC already has their own "John Whedon" with Bruce Timm. If they bring him and his team into this, the Justice League problem would be solved.

Whedon was the perfect choice for Marvel because:
A) He has a long history with Marvel, and wrote some of their best comics.
B) He's a geek who loves comics and superheroes
C) He has experience and success in producing & writing serialized dramas.
D) He is simply great at what he does.

Bruce Timm is perfect for DC
As already pointed out, DC already has their own "John Whedon" with Bruce Timm. If they bring him and his team into this, the Justice League problem would be solved.

Whedon was the perfect choice for Marvel because:
A) He has a long history with Marvel, and wrote some of their best comics.
B) He's a geek who loves comics and superheroes
C) He has experience and success in producing & writing serialized dramas.
D) He is simply great at what he does.

Bruce Timm is perfect for DC because:
A) He has a long standing history with DC.
B) Nearly his entire body of work consist of DC projects
C) He has experience and success in producing & writing serialized dramas with his near flawless DCAU.
D) He's a geek who loves comics and superheroes.
E) He is responsible for some of the best movies to carry the DC title (Seriously, Under the Red Hood & The Dark Knight Returns 1 & 2 are easily on par with, or even better than, anything Nolan's done with Batman),
F) He is simply great at what he does.
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11:12AM on 02/08/2013

Go Animated (thanks, jackieblue62)

Get Bruce Timm and the other Warner Premiere guys on the case. Hell, give them half the budget of Avengers, and make it animated. Kevin Conroy or Bruce Greenwood as Batman, Tim Daly as Superman, Lucy Lawless as Wonder Woman and Nathan Fillion as Green Lantern. Guaranteed, it'll kick serious ass.
Get Bruce Timm and the other Warner Premiere guys on the case. Hell, give them half the budget of Avengers, and make it animated. Kevin Conroy or Bruce Greenwood as Batman, Tim Daly as Superman, Lucy Lawless as Wonder Woman and Nathan Fillion as Green Lantern. Guaranteed, it'll kick serious ass.
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11:24AM on 02/08/2013
They already are making animated Justice League films, and we already know those work very well. This is about making a live action film work. Cause that's what everyone wants to see.
They already are making animated Justice League films, and we already know those work very well. This is about making a live action film work. Cause that's what everyone wants to see.
12:41PM on 02/08/2013

Superman/Batman get it done!!

Scrap the whole thing and just do a Batman/Superman movie. They're the only 2 DC characters that are mainstream and people care about. Batman has enough toys and gadgets to make him a formidable force in Superman's world so they can still do over the top villains and not have to tone down Supes to accommodate Batman's frail human physiology.
Scrap the whole thing and just do a Batman/Superman movie. They're the only 2 DC characters that are mainstream and people care about. Batman has enough toys and gadgets to make him a formidable force in Superman's world so they can still do over the top villains and not have to tone down Supes to accommodate Batman's frail human physiology.
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2:29PM on 02/08/2013

WB is retarded

They need to get their shit together. First of all, they've had so much success with their animated films and the series there's no way they can't find a good JLA origin story. Second, they need to develop a universe where all these characters exist because I don't believe the GL film is in the same universe as Dark Knight or Man of Steel. Perhaps they should figure out a direction and then do individual films first, and yes that means rebooting Batman.
They need to get their shit together. First of all, they've had so much success with their animated films and the series there's no way they can't find a good JLA origin story. Second, they need to develop a universe where all these characters exist because I don't believe the GL film is in the same universe as Dark Knight or Man of Steel. Perhaps they should figure out a direction and then do individual films first, and yes that means rebooting Batman.
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2:26AM on 02/09/2013
LOL Warner Brothers is starting to sound like that annoying girlfriend who questions everything you say & do. What do you expect when you get the writer of Gangster Squad?Maybe they do need to wait to see how Man of Steel fairs & they will stop being such drama queens. They need to learn that you simply cannot duplicate what Marvel has done which took years of planning to get where they are today.
LOL Warner Brothers is starting to sound like that annoying girlfriend who questions everything you say & do. What do you expect when you get the writer of Gangster Squad?Maybe they do need to wait to see how Man of Steel fairs & they will stop being such drama queens. They need to learn that you simply cannot duplicate what Marvel has done which took years of planning to get where they are today.
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1:21PM on 02/09/2013
This is a bad idea. Has been a bad idea from day one. I say wait a little while. Focus on Superman and everything else. Then when Marvel has blown their load with everything, POUNCE and get it right.
This is a bad idea. Has been a bad idea from day one. I say wait a little while. Focus on Superman and everything else. Then when Marvel has blown their load with everything, POUNCE and get it right.
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1:01AM on 02/13/2013

The Flash

They need to do a Flash movie. Maybe they should also greenlight a Green Lantern sequel or two. They can replace Ryan Reynolds if they think he was the problem. They don't need a Wonder Woman movie competing with the Amazon TV series. I would have no problem with a Justice League movie if they do a Superman / Batman movie first. In fact, rather than do a Batman reboot, let's do a Superman / Batman movie first and maybe a sequel (World's Finest and World's Finest 2). When the Arrow and
They need to do a Flash movie. Maybe they should also greenlight a Green Lantern sequel or two. They can replace Ryan Reynolds if they think he was the problem. They don't need a Wonder Woman movie competing with the Amazon TV series. I would have no problem with a Justice League movie if they do a Superman / Batman movie first. In fact, rather than do a Batman reboot, let's do a Superman / Batman movie first and maybe a sequel (World's Finest and World's Finest 2). When the Arrow and Amazon series have run their course they can have the actors reprise their roles on the big screen.
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1:09AM on 02/13/2013

The Flash

They need to do a Flash movie. Maybe they should also greenlight a Green Lantern sequel or two. They can replace Ryan Reynolds if they think he was the problem. They don't need a Wonder Woman movie competing with the Amazon TV series. I would have no problem with a Justice League movie if they do a Superman / Batman movie first. In fact, rather than do a Batman reboot, let's do a Superman / Batman movie first and maybe a sequel (World's Finest and World's Finest 2). When the Arrow and
They need to do a Flash movie. Maybe they should also greenlight a Green Lantern sequel or two. They can replace Ryan Reynolds if they think he was the problem. They don't need a Wonder Woman movie competing with the Amazon TV series. I would have no problem with a Justice League movie if they do a Superman / Batman movie first. In fact, rather than do a Batman reboot, let's do a Superman / Batman movie first and maybe a sequel (World's Finest and World's Finest 2). When the Arrow and Amazon series have run their course they can have the actors reprise their roles on the big screen.
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