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03.30.2015

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This is Movie Jail, a unique maximum security prison that houses some of the worst writers, directors, actors and producers from Hollywood and beyond. Their crimes? The offenses vary from convict to convict but most of these inmates have contributed negatively to the film world to some capacity* and his or her misdeeds have covered a long enough period of time that the authorities had to intervene. In each column a defendant is put on trial, arguments are made, and then it is up to YOU, the jury, to decide if the person is guilty or not guilty of crimes against cinema. Their lives are in your hands, dude.

The Defendant

Da Vinci's Demons David Goyer

The Case

The Prosecution: Man of Steel, Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance, The Unborn, Jumper, The Invisible, Blade: Trinity, Zig Zag, The Crow: City of Angels  

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the prosecution wanted to wait until after the release of Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice before putting David Goyer up for Movie Jail, but since some of you have been pushing for it lately, we've decided to move forward with a case against the filmmaker.

Mr. Goyer has done solid work as a writer and ideas man, but he's also had several misses. He wrote the original screenplays for Jumper and Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance, which were both profitable projects, however critics weren't exactly thrilled with either movie.

Many people also believe that Mr. Goyer has received way too much credit for his involvement with The Dark Knight trilogy since his solo work has been less impressive. Mr. Goyer had Christopher and Jonathan Nolan to bounce ideas off of while working on the series, but he wrote the Man of Steel screenplay by himself, which received very mixed reviews from critics and fans. In addition, the prosecution hasn't been impressed with Mr. Goyer's directorial efforts. The Unborn and The Invisible are both below 25% at Rotten Tomatoes, and he's responsible for directing the worst installment in the Blade trilogy.

The prosecution isn't seeking a life sentence since we have enjoyed some of Mr. Goyer's work on comic book movies and genre films, but we do believe he deserves to go to prison, at least for a couple of months.

David Goyer

The Defense: Man of Steel, The Dark Knight trilogy, Blade 2, Blade, Dark City

Ladies and gentlemen, it's easy to blame my client for projects like Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance, but that's not exactly fair, now is it? Mr. Goyer wrote the script for that movie with Scott Gimple and Seth Hoffman, and Jim Uhls and Simon Kinberg both did rewrites for Jumper. While the defense isn't trying to claim Mr. Goyer hasn't had a few misfires, it's not as if he is completely responsible for those films' less than stellar reviews from critics.

You could argue that my client has a slightly spotty track record, but is it so bad that we need to lock Mr. Goyer up? The defense doesn't believe so. Besides his The Dark Knight series credits, Mr. Goyer also co-wrote the Dark City script, and penned the screenplays for the first two Blade movies. Some (like the prosecution) thought Man of Steel was garbage, however there are plenty of people who really liked the Superman film.

Mr. Goyer has also done a bunch of work for the small screen (FlashForward, Da Vinci's Demons, Constantine), and although none of his series have received critical acclaim, they're still pretty decent shows.

My client might be at his best when he's working with someone on a project instead of flying solo, but that doesn't mean we should to toss him in prison.

David Goyer

IN CLOSING...

Does the good outweigh the bad when it comes to Mr. Goyer's movies, or do you believe he needs to spend some time behind bars? Have you forgiven him for Blade: Trinity, or was his Man of Steel script the last straw? Is filmmaker David Goyer GUILTY or NOT GUILTY?

*The cases for and against a defendant going to Movie Jail by the author are not necessarily his views and opinions but they are some of the beliefs that one would use to effectively make an argument for both sides. Not quite a devil's advocate but you get the point. Anyway, this is all in fun so don't take it too seriously. We have a separate jail for those people called "Troll Tower" and believe me you do NOT want to go there.

WHAT SAY YOU, GUILTY OR NOT?

David Goyer

LAST WEEK'S VERDICT

Ben Barnes

The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian and Seventh Son actor Ben Barnes was found NOT GUILTY of all charges in last week's trial, and most of the jury didn't take too kindly to the prosecution putting Mr. Barnes up for Movie Jail. Several jury members said the prosecution should be going after more famous actors, and some also said they'd like to see a bit more from Mr. Barnes since he's still pretty young.

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Extra Tidbit: Who should stand trial next week? Share your suggestions for actors, directors and writers below with your verdict!
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3:47AM on 04/01/2015

not guilty

More hits than fails for me, especially with blade and tdk trilogy.
More hits than fails for me, especially with blade and tdk trilogy.
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1:02PM on 03/31/2015

Not guilty

The dark knight trilogy.. enough said
The dark knight trilogy.. enough said
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3:10PM on 03/31/2015
No that is not enough. He did not write the screenplays to the The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises, yet he gets a pass because he has a story credit? Zak Penn has a story credit on X2 and The Avengers, but does that make him a good writer? No it doesn't. Goyer has proven himself to be mediocre at best and awful at his worse, and yet his defense is films he did not script. That is hardly enough to give this guy a pass.
No that is not enough. He did not write the screenplays to the The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises, yet he gets a pass because he has a story credit? Zak Penn has a story credit on X2 and The Avengers, but does that make him a good writer? No it doesn't. Goyer has proven himself to be mediocre at best and awful at his worse, and yet his defense is films he did not script. That is hardly enough to give this guy a pass.
12:11PM on 03/31/2015

Am I the only one...

...that thinks David Goyer and Stanley Tucci look alike? I'm just saying.
...that thinks David Goyer and Stanley Tucci look alike? I'm just saying.
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3:12PM on 03/31/2015
Totally agree. When I first saw the picture in the column title I thought they were putting Stanley Tucci on trial, which would have been unfair to him. They look very similar.
Totally agree. When I first saw the picture in the column title I thought they were putting Stanley Tucci on trial, which would have been unfair to him. They look very similar.
11:31PM on 03/30/2015

Not guilty

Fanboys have become pretentious snobs. And rude and fucking boring as well. This guy was out there batting for comic book movies when Hollywood was making complete shit and we lapped it up like dogs. Give him some credit.
Fanboys have become pretentious snobs. And rude and fucking boring as well. This guy was out there batting for comic book movies when Hollywood was making complete shit and we lapped it up like dogs. Give him some credit.
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3:17PM on 03/31/2015
I'm sorry, but I just prefer quality writing from a screenwriter. I don't care about what changes are made to comic book characters. I'm actually one who is optimistic about the Fantastic Four movie and sees potential in it even if it strays from the original comic. My only expectation is that the movie is good, and Goyer's scripts have not been good. Apparently your best defense against this hack writer is to blame the audience for actually having standards. That must be the only
I'm sorry, but I just prefer quality writing from a screenwriter. I don't care about what changes are made to comic book characters. I'm actually one who is optimistic about the Fantastic Four movie and sees potential in it even if it strays from the original comic. My only expectation is that the movie is good, and Goyer's scripts have not been good. Apparently your best defense against this hack writer is to blame the audience for actually having standards. That must be the only justification for his awful writing.
7:16PM on 03/30/2015

Not Guilty

The guy can write, but his best work comes out when he is collaborating with good directors like Nolan, Proyas and Del Toro. Just don't let him direct another movie ever again.
The guy can write, but his best work comes out when he is collaborating with good directors like Nolan, Proyas and Del Toro. Just don't let him direct another movie ever again.
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6:27PM on 03/30/2015

GUILTY!

Finally, someone I can really get behind being on trial. Goyer is an idea man at best. Even Dark City I'd credit mostly to Proyas, since he also directed and set the tone. I used to think Goyer was at least competent as a writer (and he was, at least as co-writer), but Man of Steel did the opposite of what a Superman movie should do (were it any other character, I might have less hate for it--the second half anyway). I get that it's hard when people get on the internets and shred your movie for
Finally, someone I can really get behind being on trial. Goyer is an idea man at best. Even Dark City I'd credit mostly to Proyas, since he also directed and set the tone. I used to think Goyer was at least competent as a writer (and he was, at least as co-writer), but Man of Steel did the opposite of what a Superman movie should do (were it any other character, I might have less hate for it--the second half anyway). I get that it's hard when people get on the internets and shred your movie for not staying true to certain fundamentals regarding their beloved comic book character, but to completely dismiss any criticisms out of hand was really a poor move on his part, especially since he's been dealing with fandom since the Blade movies. I vote to blackball the guy from Hollywood altogether.
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5:33PM on 03/30/2015

Guilty

He has way more duds than decent flicks.
He has way more duds than decent flicks.
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3:48PM on 03/30/2015

So Guilty

This guy is just plain awful and there's no hope of improvement, throw away the key and his Writer's Guild card.
This guy is just plain awful and there's no hope of improvement, throw away the key and his Writer's Guild card.
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2:46PM on 03/30/2015

not guilty

He is one of the main reasons comic book movies are being made right now.
He is one of the main reasons comic book movies are being made right now.
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2:23PM on 03/30/2015

Guilty (Lock Him Up Without Possibility of Parole)

Goyer is simply a terrible writer, for the reasons I explained in the replies I gave to others posts. His only good scripts were collaborations with superior writers and directors. The films he directed, demonstrating a vision unfiltered by better creative minds, are Blade Trinity and The Unborn, hardly pinnacles of quality cinema. Dark City, a film brought up often in his defense, was the vision of director Alex Proyas, who deserves the credit. With Man of Steel, Goyer tried to imitate
Goyer is simply a terrible writer, for the reasons I explained in the replies I gave to others posts. His only good scripts were collaborations with superior writers and directors. The films he directed, demonstrating a vision unfiltered by better creative minds, are Blade Trinity and The Unborn, hardly pinnacles of quality cinema. Dark City, a film brought up often in his defense, was the vision of director Alex Proyas, who deserves the credit. With Man of Steel, Goyer tried to imitate Nolan's style of telling a story out of chronological order, but it paled in comparison. Nolan is good at using story structure to enhance the narrative (see Memento and The Prestige, which used the stages of an illusion to tell the story); Goyer's script seemed to lack purpose. The flashbacks did nothing to improve the film. WB wisely took him off of Batman V Superman and replaced him with Oscar winner Chris Terrio, probably because Ben Affleck read the script and demanded changes (speculation, of course, but it makes sense), and Ben Affleck has shown himself to be a good director/writer. Hollywood would not suffer if Goyer never wrote another screenplay again.
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11:35PM on 03/30/2015
"Hardly pinnacles of quality cinema..." Name a comic book movie that ever won a Best Picture Oscar. Jesus, man, listen to yourself.
"Hardly pinnacles of quality cinema..." Name a comic book movie that ever won a Best Picture Oscar. Jesus, man, listen to yourself.
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2:15PM on 03/30/2015

Career average: 5.6/10.

For those of you who claim that his contribution to the DARK KNIGHT trilogy didn't matter because he co-wrote it with the Nolan bros, gues what? Christopher co-wrote MAN OF STEEL.

It's all about the credits. He should only be held responsible for scripts where he got the "Screenplay by" credit (M.O.S.; GHOST RIDER 2; JUMPER; BATMAN BEGINS) instead of the "Story by" credit (T.D.K.R.; DARK KNIGHT; BLADE trilogy). The former 3 vary in quality, but I don't feel he stands out as a terrible
For those of you who claim that his contribution to the DARK KNIGHT trilogy didn't matter because he co-wrote it with the Nolan bros, gues what? Christopher co-wrote MAN OF STEEL.

It's all about the credits. He should only be held responsible for scripts where he got the "Screenplay by" credit (M.O.S.; GHOST RIDER 2; JUMPER; BATMAN BEGINS) instead of the "Story by" credit (T.D.K.R.; DARK KNIGHT; BLADE trilogy). The former 3 vary in quality, but I don't feel he stands out as a terrible writer. There are plenty of others where it's much more obvious. By the way, I did like THE INVISIBLE. Not Guilty.

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2:44PM on 03/30/2015
There's a difference between a story credit and a screenwriter credit. The screenwriter usually provides the shooting draft. David Goyer did not have a screenwriter credit on either Dark Knight film (his Batman Begins script was rewritten by Chris Nolan). Jonathan Nolan and Chris Nolan was credited for the script. Chris Nolan helped develop the story for Man of Steel, but David Goyer wrote the script (you can't expect Nolan to be as invested in a film he is not directing, especially when it
There's a difference between a story credit and a screenwriter credit. The screenwriter usually provides the shooting draft. David Goyer did not have a screenwriter credit on either Dark Knight film (his Batman Begins script was rewritten by Chris Nolan). Jonathan Nolan and Chris Nolan was credited for the script. Chris Nolan helped develop the story for Man of Steel, but David Goyer wrote the script (you can't expect Nolan to be as invested in a film he is not directing, especially when it is not his vision). Your argument actually works against him, because it demonstrates what happens when Goyer writes the screenplay to a story he conceived with a better writer. With the Dark Knight, his story had the opportunity to be a quality script because better writers actually wrote it. I was concerned when I saw his name as sole writer on Man of Steel, and in my opinion, my concerns were confirmed by the final product. It didn't help that Zack Snyder directed it. What a relief to know Chris Terrio is writing Batman V Superman. At least now it has a chance of being good.
6:27PM on 03/30/2015
Nolan DID NOT co-write Man of Steel (and this misconception is why so many people give MoS a pass). Nolan said that he discussed the story with Goyer one night, and that was it. Nolan said he had no other creative input on that movie whatsoever. Nolan was also against the ending of the movie (the original Nolan approved ending had Superman send Zod to the Phantom zone), but in the end he had no say so. Goyer and Snyder wanted Superman to kill Zod so bad because they believe that the only way
Nolan DID NOT co-write Man of Steel (and this misconception is why so many people give MoS a pass). Nolan said that he discussed the story with Goyer one night, and that was it. Nolan said he had no other creative input on that movie whatsoever. Nolan was also against the ending of the movie (the original Nolan approved ending had Superman send Zod to the Phantom zone), but in the end he had no say so. Goyer and Snyder wanted Superman to kill Zod so bad because they believe that the only way to learn to not kill is by killing.
12:49PM on 03/30/2015
sorry double post
sorry double post
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12:49PM on 03/30/2015

Not guilty

I don't hold any grudges against people I don't know or get butt hurt like the typical fanboy. Aside from the last Blade movie, Ghost Rider & the 2 horror movies he directed, I actually like all the other movies he has written. He may have written parts of Nolan's TDK trilogy, but it was Nolan who brought them to life. I actually even like Man of Steel as well & I wasn't bothered by Supes snapping Zod's neck. Haters gonna hate, especially comic book fanboys.
I don't hold any grudges against people I don't know or get butt hurt like the typical fanboy. Aside from the last Blade movie, Ghost Rider & the 2 horror movies he directed, I actually like all the other movies he has written. He may have written parts of Nolan's TDK trilogy, but it was Nolan who brought them to life. I actually even like Man of Steel as well & I wasn't bothered by Supes snapping Zod's neck. Haters gonna hate, especially comic book fanboys.
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2:26PM on 03/30/2015
I only hate him because his writing is awful. I don't care about whether or not a film is true to the comic books. I do care that his writing is cringeworthy.
I only hate him because his writing is awful. I don't care about whether or not a film is true to the comic books. I do care that his writing is cringeworthy.
1:29AM on 03/31/2015
Well that's like your opinion man.
Well that's like your opinion man.
12:21PM on 03/30/2015

guilty

death sentence
Granted movies on which he has a co-writing credit are usually decent to great (Dark City) but when he is the only credited writer they are always bad.
death sentence
Granted movies on which he has a co-writing credit are usually decent to great (Dark City) but when he is the only credited writer they are always bad.
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12:18PM on 03/30/2015

Not Guilty

Come on Jesse Giroux, stop being so lazy. The case is very weak compared to his quality films. This is a big fat Not Guilty.
Come on Jesse Giroux, stop being so lazy. The case is very weak compared to his quality films. This is a big fat Not Guilty.
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2:11PM on 03/30/2015
What quality films? The good movies he had a hand in were co-written by superior writers or directed by someone who could bring out the best in the story. The sign of a screenwriter's skill is in how good or bad a movie is that the writer also directs, because it demonstrates the pure vision of the writer, unfiltered by different creative minds, and what did Goyer write and direct? Blade Trinity and The Unborn. Those are awful films. This guy is a terrible writer.
What quality films? The good movies he had a hand in were co-written by superior writers or directed by someone who could bring out the best in the story. The sign of a screenwriter's skill is in how good or bad a movie is that the writer also directs, because it demonstrates the pure vision of the writer, unfiltered by different creative minds, and what did Goyer write and direct? Blade Trinity and The Unborn. Those are awful films. This guy is a terrible writer.
11:57AM on 03/30/2015

Guilty

The man gave us Blade Trinity. That is as bad as X-Men The Last Stand.
The man gave us Blade Trinity. That is as bad as X-Men The Last Stand.
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11:51AM on 03/30/2015

Not guilty

Face it, Man of Steel was better than Green Lantern. The main writers on Green Lantern were Greg Berlanti, Michael Green and Marc Guggenheim, people whose previous credits were on Smallville, Heroes, No Ordinary Family, Everwood and Eli Stone, mostly genre stuff. They have since gone on to do The Tomorrow People, Arrow and Flash. DC won't trust these guys to work on their movies anymore. Like it or not, DC trusts Goyer, him along with Geoff Johns. Warners have had success with them in the
Face it, Man of Steel was better than Green Lantern. The main writers on Green Lantern were Greg Berlanti, Michael Green and Marc Guggenheim, people whose previous credits were on Smallville, Heroes, No Ordinary Family, Everwood and Eli Stone, mostly genre stuff. They have since gone on to do The Tomorrow People, Arrow and Flash. DC won't trust these guys to work on their movies anymore. Like it or not, DC trusts Goyer, him along with Geoff Johns. Warners have had success with them in the past. DC doesn't seem to have the pool of writers that Marvel has. Give it a few years: I've been watching the Flash and it is pretty good.
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2:04PM on 03/30/2015
They don't trust them to write the movies, but they allow them the opportunity to make three series based off their characters (Arrow, The Flash, Supergirl)? What sense does that make? Apparently DC doesn't want these writers to make a 2 hour film, yet they trust them to make 24 episodes a season based on their property. That is a major investment in writers they don't like.

And David Goyer is so appreciated by DC that they pulled him off Batman V Superman and replaced him with Oscar
They don't trust them to write the movies, but they allow them the opportunity to make three series based off their characters (Arrow, The Flash, Supergirl)? What sense does that make? Apparently DC doesn't want these writers to make a 2 hour film, yet they trust them to make 24 episodes a season based on their property. That is a major investment in writers they don't like.

And David Goyer is so appreciated by DC that they pulled him off Batman V Superman and replaced him with Oscar winner Chris Terrio (who WB wants to see write Justice League as well). That shows major confidence, doesn't it? Chris Nolan is responsible for DC's success, not Goyer. David Goyer wrote the story for The Dark Knight films, but Nolan recruited his brother to write the screenplay. Man of Steel did not have a solid script. Your argument is flawed.

By the way, bad writers can be hired by studios frequently, because movies that make money aren't always good. Whether WB trusts him or not (which they obviously don't, because he was replaced), that does not make him a good writer.
12:26AM on 03/31/2015
TV has lower standards than movies. They had three writers that were doing TV do Green Lantern. The script wasn't very good. They are now back doing TV. Everybody says the first season of Arrow wasn't very good. The Flash show was co-created with Geoff Johns.
TV has lower standards than movies. They had three writers that were doing TV do Green Lantern. The script wasn't very good. They are now back doing TV. Everybody says the first season of Arrow wasn't very good. The Flash show was co-created with Geoff Johns.
1:26AM on 03/31/2015
Uh... First season of Arrow was awesome. Have you actually watched it?
Uh... First season of Arrow was awesome. Have you actually watched it?
10:42AM on 03/30/2015

Guilty... but as a main guy only

Yes, his great projects needed great directors but good lieutenants are hard to find and The Dark Knight trilogy and Dark City are highlights even when you compare them with the other work of these great directors.

Still, he couldn't really improve Zach Snyder and his own solo work leaves a lot to be desired. Some of his comments regarding certain comics characters (like She-Hulk) also did nothing to help his reputation. As much as he may have helped Nolan and Proyas, we have to admit that
Yes, his great projects needed great directors but good lieutenants are hard to find and The Dark Knight trilogy and Dark City are highlights even when you compare them with the other work of these great directors.

Still, he couldn't really improve Zach Snyder and his own solo work leaves a lot to be desired. Some of his comments regarding certain comics characters (like She-Hulk) also did nothing to help his reputation. As much as he may have helped Nolan and Proyas, we have to admit that they greatly helped him as well, probably more so.
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10:01AM on 03/30/2015
Guilty. Blade: Trinity and Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance are unforgivable.
Guilty. Blade: Trinity and Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance are unforgivable.
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9:49AM on 03/30/2015
If I was him I'd try to bargain a deal with the prosecution as soon as possible. He's the equivalent of a chomo for this. One of the worst PPl in Hollywood. Worse than Sandler and spade
If I was him I'd try to bargain a deal with the prosecution as soon as possible. He's the equivalent of a chomo for this. One of the worst PPl in Hollywood. Worse than Sandler and spade
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2:32PM on 03/30/2015
His plea bargain could be an agreement to never direct again and always give his scripts to better writers to polish before filming. He should not have final say on a draft and his vision needs to be interpreted by more competent writers. If he agrees to this, I would give him a lesser sentence (though I'm sure he would be quite able to offer a lesser sentence himself, compared to better writers. Get it? As in a sentence used in writing. Okay, that was corny. I really need to avoid Goyer
His plea bargain could be an agreement to never direct again and always give his scripts to better writers to polish before filming. He should not have final say on a draft and his vision needs to be interpreted by more competent writers. If he agrees to this, I would give him a lesser sentence (though I'm sure he would be quite able to offer a lesser sentence himself, compared to better writers. Get it? As in a sentence used in writing. Okay, that was corny. I really need to avoid Goyer films. His "skills" are rubbing off on me!).
9:44AM on 03/30/2015

Guilty

Guilty alone for how badly he ended the BLADE trilogy. Such a terrible direction to take the franchise and he was clearly not ready to direct.
Guilty alone for how badly he ended the BLADE trilogy. Such a terrible direction to take the franchise and he was clearly not ready to direct.
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7:59AM on 03/30/2015

Guilty

The previous posts are dead-on. He should only stick to developing stories. Let others write the script and direct the movies. When he does all these things, the finished product is a mess.
The previous posts are dead-on. He should only stick to developing stories. Let others write the script and direct the movies. When he does all these things, the finished product is a mess.
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7:55AM on 03/30/2015

So very Guilty

Agree with anomaly7 and Mr.Moe as to the only movies that have been good, he's had great directors, if not other great writers by his side. Also, I didn't know he had sleeve tattoos and never knew someone could look horrible with them.
Agree with anomaly7 and Mr.Moe as to the only movies that have been good, he's had great directors, if not other great writers by his side. Also, I didn't know he had sleeve tattoos and never knew someone could look horrible with them.
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7:49AM on 03/30/2015

Guilty

It seems like the best movies he's been involved with have been good due to strong directors. He hasn't had the same luck without them, leading to several disappointments. I think he needs to stay away from comic books for a while and do something original.
It seems like the best movies he's been involved with have been good due to strong directors. He hasn't had the same luck without them, leading to several disappointments. I think he needs to stay away from comic books for a while and do something original.
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7:35AM on 03/30/2015

Guilty from the beginning.

The only good films with Goyer's name attached were films creatively driven by other real talent. And those films would have been just as good (if not better) without his involvement. Every single solo script Goyer writes, and every film he directs, has been mediocre to horrible. Even the first two Blade movies were held back by their writing (as fun as they turned out due to talented filmmakers).
The only good films with Goyer's name attached were films creatively driven by other real talent. And those films would have been just as good (if not better) without his involvement. Every single solo script Goyer writes, and every film he directs, has been mediocre to horrible. Even the first two Blade movies were held back by their writing (as fun as they turned out due to talented filmmakers).
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