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10.05.2015

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This is Movie Jail, a unique maximum security prison that houses some of the worst writers, directors, actors and producers from Hollywood and beyond. Their crimes? The offenses vary from convict to convict but most of these inmates have contributed negatively to the film world to some capacity* and his or her misdeeds have covered a long enough period of time that the authorities had to intervene. In each column a defendant is put on trial, arguments are made, and then it is up to YOU, the jury, to decide if the person is guilty or not guilty of crimes against cinema. Their lives are in your hands, dude.

The Defendant

Boss Kelsey Grammer

The Case

The Prosecution: Reach Me, The Expendables 3, Transformers: Age of Extinction, Think Like a Man Too, Legends of Oz: Dorothy's Return, I Don't Know How She Does It, Crazy on the Outside, Fame, An American Carol, Swing Vote, Even Money, 15 Minutes, Down Periscope, Partners, Hank, Back to You

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, Kelsey Grammer has won multiple Emmy, Screen Actors Guild and Golden Globe awards for his television work, however the actor is one for four with his post-Frasier TV series, and he hasn't fared any better on the big screen, especially as of late. 2014 could have been a big year for Mr. Grammer, but all of his films (Reach Me, The Expendables 3, Transformers: Age of Extinction, Think Like a Man Too and Legends of Oz: Dorothy's Return) scored low marks from critics, and he won a Razzie Award for his performances in the latter three. He many not have deserved a Razzie for his turns in those movies, but he did earn one for starring in them.

Mr. Grammer strikes out more often than he scores when it comes to his movies, even going way back to his first feature film lead in the critically panned Down Periscope. He's a talented actor, so the prosecution isn't sure why he hasn't been able to land roles in higher quality projects. Maybe it's due to his history of alcohol and drug abuse and perhaps he's difficult to work with, but for whatever reason, Mr. Grammer has only appeared or voiced characters in a few truly great movies, despite being a fairly well-known actor with a bunch of awards sitting on his mantle.

The prosecution is a massive Frasier fan, however it's clear that we need to do something about the actor. He's appeared in way too many negatively reviewed films and most of his recent television series haven't done that well with critics either. We probably don't need to put Mr. Grammer away for life, but he definitely needs to serve some jail time for his bad career choices.

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The Defense: Middle Men, X-Men: The Last Stand, The Big Empty, Toy Story 2, Anastasia, Boss, Frasier, Cheers, The Simpsons

Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Grammer hasn't found that much success on the silver screen and last year was rough for the actor, but we don't believe he belongs in Movie Jail. Yes, my client has appeared in more than a few bad movies, however he still gives it all and doesn't phone in his performances. It wasn't that long ago that Mr. Grammer won a Best Actor Golden Globe for his performance on Starz's Boss, and he's a big reason why the show worked. The defense also thought Mr. Grammer was fantastic as Beast in X-Men: The Last Stand and as the villainous Harold Attinger in Transformers: Age of Extinction, even though both films were chewed up by critics, and he's been just as good in other poorly received movie and TV projects.

While the actor's drug and alcohol problems more than likely have had a negative impact on his career, he seems to be doing better now, and it's not like he's been banished to the direct-to-DVD/VOD market. Mr. Grammer is also known for his stellar voicework (Toy Story 2, Anastasia), with his Sideshow Bob from The Simpsons arguably being his most well-known role outside of Frasier/Cheers.

While the defense would like to see Mr. Grammer be a little bit more selective with his acting roles, we don't think his career is on a downward trajectory like the prosecution suggests, and we feel his strong television work makes up for his unimpressive movies.

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IN CLOSING...

What should we do with the Frasier actor? Should we throw Mr. Grammer in the slammer due to the scrambled eggs all over his face, or do you think he just needs to stop taking roles in mediocre-to-awful movies and television series? Is Kelsey Grammer GUILTY or NOT GUILTY?

*The cases for and against a defendant going to Movie Jail by the author are not necessarily his views and opinions but they are some of the beliefs that one would use to effectively make an argument for both sides. Not quite a devil's advocate but you get the point. Anyway, this is all in fun so don't take it too seriously. We have a separate jail for those people called "Troll Tower" and believe me you do NOT want to go there.

WHAT SAY YOU, GUILTY OR NOT?

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3:50PM on 10/06/2015

Guilty for Movie Jail... Not Guilty for TV Jail

We all love Frasier, but when X-Men 3 is part of your defense, you know you've got problems.
We all love Frasier, but when X-Men 3 is part of your defense, you know you've got problems.
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12:56PM on 10/06/2015

not guilty

you don't put Fraiser Crane in jail, he would bore the other prisoners anyway. Sideshow Bob would plan their slow painful deaths. Those 2 characters alone save him.

On a side note 15 Minutes was such an underrated film.
you don't put Fraiser Crane in jail, he would bore the other prisoners anyway. Sideshow Bob would plan their slow painful deaths. Those 2 characters alone save him.

On a side note 15 Minutes was such an underrated film.
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7:21AM on 10/06/2015

Not Guilty

It's not even an option. Not Guilty.
It's not even an option. Not Guilty.
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11:16PM on 10/05/2015

Not Guilty but....

i wish he was more than comic relief. Not that i don't mind him being comic relief (Down Periscope was pretty funny in my book considering i saw it when i was 10). I just wish he did more roles similar to what he did in 15 minutes or Boss.

Oh and Eli Roth guilty? He makes horror films. What more do you expect from him? He specializes in gore and grossing his audience. I feel like most of the schmoes are movie purists who can't take a joke film and just laugh and enjoy what it is. then again
i wish he was more than comic relief. Not that i don't mind him being comic relief (Down Periscope was pretty funny in my book considering i saw it when i was 10). I just wish he did more roles similar to what he did in 15 minutes or Boss.

Oh and Eli Roth guilty? He makes horror films. What more do you expect from him? He specializes in gore and grossing his audience. I feel like most of the schmoes are movie purists who can't take a joke film and just laugh and enjoy what it is. then again most of the schmoes dickride anything Nolan related, so there's that.
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9:29AM on 10/06/2015
"He makes horror films. What more do you expect from him? He specializes in gore and grossing his audience." Don't you see the contradiction there? Horror is about scaring, not grossing, the audience.
"He makes horror films. What more do you expect from him? He specializes in gore and grossing his audience." Don't you see the contradiction there? Horror is about scaring, not grossing, the audience.
9:48PM on 10/05/2015
Not guilty. You know if you but Sideshow Bob in jail, he'll find a way out. And seek revenge on you and your family.
But seriously, he's a good actor. Like a lot of stars from popular sitcoms (Friends, The Office, etc.), it's not easily to transition into film without being typecast.
Not guilty. You know if you but Sideshow Bob in jail, he'll find a way out. And seek revenge on you and your family.
But seriously, he's a good actor. Like a lot of stars from popular sitcoms (Friends, The Office, etc.), it's not easily to transition into film without being typecast.
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4:47PM on 10/05/2015

Not guilty

For all the reasons summed up below.
For all the reasons summed up below.
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3:23PM on 10/05/2015

NOT GUILTY

He is Not Guilty. There are many more deserving of Movie Jail contenders out there with out jailing Frasier. Down Periscope is a guilty pleasure. If any website should know what the snobbish Big City Movie Critics think of the rest of us unwashed, it's Joblo.
He is Not Guilty. There are many more deserving of Movie Jail contenders out there with out jailing Frasier. Down Periscope is a guilty pleasure. If any website should know what the snobbish Big City Movie Critics think of the rest of us unwashed, it's Joblo.
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2:03PM on 10/05/2015
Guilty. Other than his Cheers and voice work nostalgia, he has a pretty horrible resume.
Guilty. Other than his Cheers and voice work nostalgia, he has a pretty horrible resume.
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1:17PM on 10/05/2015
Not guilty! He is just so fun to watch. He was one of the bright spots in Transformers.
Not guilty! He is just so fun to watch. He was one of the bright spots in Transformers.
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1:04PM on 10/05/2015

Not guilty

I actually liked Down Periscope. It's not high art by any means, but when I found myself watching it one time, I remember laughing more than I expected to. 15 Minutes is a bad movie, to be sure, and a waste of a lot of talented people (though Karel Roden might have actually benefited from it). Grammar was still my favorite character in it.
I don't find him a naturally likable guy, but he's usually magnetic even in bad movies. When he had his little renaissance, I was hopeful that it would work
I actually liked Down Periscope. It's not high art by any means, but when I found myself watching it one time, I remember laughing more than I expected to. 15 Minutes is a bad movie, to be sure, and a waste of a lot of talented people (though Karel Roden might have actually benefited from it). Grammar was still my favorite character in it.
I don't find him a naturally likable guy, but he's usually magnetic even in bad movies. When he had his little renaissance, I was hopeful that it would work out in his favor. So far, since they cancelled Boss things haven't looked good. But the man brings a presence to his roles that is sadly being wasted on the wrong movies. I don't think this has anything to do with his talent or his own personal attempts, but rather that he's not what people think of when they're looking to cast their movies. And at his age he can't be choosy about it. So when someone offers him the bad guy role in T4, he takes it, because that movie's going to be big regardless of quality.
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12:21PM on 10/05/2015

Guilty!

Next week: Jason Sudeikis
Next week: Jason Sudeikis
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3:32PM on 10/05/2015
That would be an interesting trial.
That would be an interesting trial.
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10:56AM on 10/05/2015

Career average: 3.9/10

I know that the transition from TV to movies is hard, but he's not your average sitcom star. His performance in FRASIER* was iconic. He wastes his potential by starring in bad movies and (most of the time) by not trying his hardest. He was bad in I DON'T KNOW HOW SHE DOES IT, and he did nothing memorable in CRAZY ON THE OUTSIDE nor TRANSFORMERS 4. Neither in THE EXPENDABLES 3, but that was just a cameo. What was he even doing in that movie? He's not an action star. And why did he play CAPTAIN
I know that the transition from TV to movies is hard, but he's not your average sitcom star. His performance in FRASIER* was iconic. He wastes his potential by starring in bad movies and (most of the time) by not trying his hardest. He was bad in I DON'T KNOW HOW SHE DOES IT, and he did nothing memorable in CRAZY ON THE OUTSIDE nor TRANSFORMERS 4. Neither in THE EXPENDABLES 3, but that was just a cameo. What was he even doing in that movie? He's not an action star. And why did he play CAPTAIN HOOK in FINDING NEVERLAND? I saw him at the Tonys and, despite it being only one musical number, he felt miscast.

He was fine in ANASTASIA and great in TOY STORY 2. He saved BARTOK THE MAGNIFICENT, A CHRISTMAS CAROL 2004 and X-MEN 3. And I actually liked BACK TO YOU. But that's not enough. Guilty.

Next week: Candice Bergen, Jason Blum, Kristin Chenoweth, Alan Cumming, Elisha Cuthbert, Danny DeVito, Matt Dillon, Brad Fuller, Heather Graham, Melanie Griffith, Raja Gosnell, Don Johnson, Angelina Jolie, Jamie Kennedy, Ben Kingsley, Brian Levant, Eugene Levy, Lucy Liu, Robert Luketic, James Marsden, Neal Moritz, Amanda Peet, Sean Penn, Kelly Preston, Meg Ryan, Barry Sonnenfeld, Barbra Streisand or Patrick Warburton.

*I started watching it as a teenager and I didn't know it was a spin-off. I felt the urge to watch CHEERS, but then I read that it ran for 11 seasons. It wasn't worth it.
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1:09PM on 10/05/2015
He had two long running huge TV series (especially regarding Cheers) adding up to 20 years. If he never did anything else, that's wildly impressive.

Your career average is too low. :)
He had two long running huge TV series (especially regarding Cheers) adding up to 20 years. If he never did anything else, that's wildly impressive.

Your career average is too low. :)
3:33PM on 10/05/2015
When I calculate the career average, I count the shows as 1 project, just like with movies. The number of seasons is irrelevant.
When I calculate the career average, I count the shows as 1 project, just like with movies. The number of seasons is irrelevant.
4:43PM on 10/05/2015
Fair enough, but you haven't seen the biggest hit of his career, which is also one of the most successful television series in US history. It's kind of a big deal. ;) It took up a lot of years making all those seasons you're not counting, so he wasn't making movies during that "one" project.


Fair enough, but you haven't seen the biggest hit of his career, which is also one of the most successful television series in US history. It's kind of a big deal. ;) It took up a lot of years making all those seasons you're not counting, so he wasn't making movies during that "one" project.


9:45AM on 10/05/2015
Not guilty. I actually like him a lot in Transformers Age of Extinction. As for Down Periscope, even if Grammer not a lead actor, the whole movie was a disaster anyway.
Not guilty. I actually like him a lot in Transformers Age of Extinction. As for Down Periscope, even if Grammer not a lead actor, the whole movie was a disaster anyway.
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9:42AM on 10/05/2015

Not Guilty

I haven't actually seen anything on the prosecution's list, but everything else that I have seen him in he has always brought a great performance. He was literally the only good thing out of the train-wreck of X3.
I haven't actually seen anything on the prosecution's list, but everything else that I have seen him in he has always brought a great performance. He was literally the only good thing out of the train-wreck of X3.
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8:59AM on 10/05/2015
Not Guilty! He's a good actor, but made some poor choices or was ill-advised.
Not Guilty! He's a good actor, but made some poor choices or was ill-advised.
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8:53AM on 10/05/2015
The man is a beast.... literally, no case.
The man is a beast.... literally, no case.
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8:33AM on 10/05/2015

Not Guilty

Hasn't made an amazing transition from TV to film, but the guys has owned everything he's done on television. Next to Phil Hartman, I'd say he's the second best guest character on the Simpsons. Started watching Frasier on Netflix and it's still one of the best comedy shows I've ever watched.
Hasn't made an amazing transition from TV to film, but the guys has owned everything he's done on television. Next to Phil Hartman, I'd say he's the second best guest character on the Simpsons. Started watching Frasier on Netflix and it's still one of the best comedy shows I've ever watched.
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8:33AM on 10/05/2015
I think it is funny that movie jail is about the movie the actors are in and less about the actor. Starring in less than stellar movies does not mean that particular actor didn't do well with what they had.
Take X-men, probably the most hated X-men film to date, yet his Beast was PERFECT. Better than Hoults IMO.
His voice work has been fantastic over the years an his role in Age of Extinction was also well done for what he had to do. He still played that part well, regardless of script.
I think it is funny that movie jail is about the movie the actors are in and less about the actor. Starring in less than stellar movies does not mean that particular actor didn't do well with what they had.
Take X-men, probably the most hated X-men film to date, yet his Beast was PERFECT. Better than Hoults IMO.
His voice work has been fantastic over the years an his role in Age of Extinction was also well done for what he had to do. He still played that part well, regardless of script.
Another actor example is Christian Bale. I'm sure I will get flak for this but, his Bruce Wayne was alright but his Batman was atrocious. I would be more inclined to put Bale's Batman in the guilty party than Grammars Attinger from Transformers AOE.
So I will say "not guilty".
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11:45AM on 10/05/2015
I disagree. Telling good and bad scripts apart is part of being a good actor (and director, producer, etc.).
I disagree. Telling good and bad scripts apart is part of being a good actor (and director, producer, etc.).
8:30AM on 10/05/2015
Should his excellent TV work be taken into account when considering him for Movie Jail?
He's probably Maybe Guilty for Movie Jail, but fairly definitely Not Guilty for TV Jail.
When half of the defence isn't for his movie work, dude needs a better lawyer.
Should his excellent TV work be taken into account when considering him for Movie Jail?
He's probably Maybe Guilty for Movie Jail, but fairly definitely Not Guilty for TV Jail.
When half of the defence isn't for his movie work, dude needs a better lawyer.
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11:41AM on 10/05/2015
TV has been used in several trials in the past.
TV has been used in several trials in the past.
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8:30AM on 10/05/2015

Not Guilty!

Frasier and Cheers is enough to give this man the pass!
Frasier and Cheers is enough to give this man the pass!
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1:44PM on 10/05/2015
Yes! I agree. Two huge long running hits? You bet that's enough.
Yes! I agree. Two huge long running hits? You bet that's enough.
8:21AM on 10/05/2015

Not Guilty

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8:13AM on 10/05/2015

Guilty, but no jail time

but I would recommend community service and an ankle bracelet. He should be used to one of those ...
but I would recommend community service and an ankle bracelet. He should be used to one of those ...
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8:02AM on 10/05/2015

Not Guilty

For Frasier alone the man deserves a lifetime pass.
For Frasier alone the man deserves a lifetime pass.
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8:02AM on 10/05/2015

No way.

Cheers, Frasier and Side Show Bob get him a pass. Being Beast in X-Men is a bonus.
Also a friend met him on holiday recently and said he is one the nicest, genuine people she had ever met.
Cheers, Frasier and Side Show Bob get him a pass. Being Beast in X-Men is a bonus.
Also a friend met him on holiday recently and said he is one the nicest, genuine people she had ever met.
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