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Not Breaking News: Disney doesn't think too highly of scripts for their blockbusters

Aug. 17, 2011by: Mike Sampson

Andy Hendrickson, Chief Technical Officer at Disney, said last week what we all pretty much knew: story is bullshit. Hendrickson, who works at the studio that recently churned out ALICE IN WONDERLAND, PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: ON STRANGER TIDES and TRON: LEGACY, was speaking at the Siggraph, the computer graphics conference, earlier this month. Somewhere during the course of his talk, he dropped some truth bombs on the audience.

"People say 'It's all about the story,'" Hendrickson said, adding, "When you're making tentpole films, bullshit." This may be something that we as movie fans and critics of not-very-good movies can say with relative ease and frequency. But for an executive at a movie studio to admit this publicly?

Hendrickson didn't stop there. He went on to admit that ALICE "isn't very good" but the "visual spectacle" and the casting of Johnny Depp brought people in droves. His bottom line? Studios should be releasing more tentpoles.

I'll give you a few minutes to bang your head on your desk.

His talk was ostensibly about digital production but he somehow veered into the weird admission that they don't care about scripts or story for their big-budget movies. Remember: Disney shit-canned THE LONE RANGER not because it had story issues (which from what little we know about it - werewolves?... - it had in spades) but because it cost too much money. Money. That's what it's all about.

The sad truth here is that Hendrickson is right. Story doesn't matter because we, the audience, don't demand that it matters. ALICE IN WONDERLAND did make over $1 billion worldwide despite most people agreeing it was pretty awful. It'll be easy to rip on Hendrickson in the Strike Backs below (and by all means, have at it) but at the end of the day, he's just a guy with a calculator, some research and a fancy spreadsheet. We gave him the data. It's our fault.

Source: Variety

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2:15PM on 08/19/2011
Should've known all along that all Disney cares about is money... Well i promise i'm not seeing another fucking disney movie again. doubt it'll make a big difference, but it's the principle
Should've known all along that all Disney cares about is money... Well i promise i'm not seeing another fucking disney movie again. doubt it'll make a big difference, but it's the principle
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10:57PM on 08/18/2011
I just thank God that Disney is staying hands off with Marvel and Pixar from now on. Even though it's all the same money pool now, let them continue to crap in their end of the pool. New IP's will not make the money they should with poor stories or plots. Prince of Persia proved that as well as many other Disney movie flops. Pirates 1 worked because the story was there as well as the charm. They rode three more films off of that, not the star power.
I just thank God that Disney is staying hands off with Marvel and Pixar from now on. Even though it's all the same money pool now, let them continue to crap in their end of the pool. New IP's will not make the money they should with poor stories or plots. Prince of Persia proved that as well as many other Disney movie flops. Pirates 1 worked because the story was there as well as the charm. They rode three more films off of that, not the star power.
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5:37PM on 08/18/2011
I'll give him thumbs up for being honest. We always hate when people try to sell us on something they don't believe in, so we shouldn't be upset when we're given honest answers. I liked when Shia admitted that Indy 4 and Transformers 2 were bad. I like that Hendrickson admits flaws in his movies as well as his priorities. Good for him. I happen to disagree, but at least he's not lying to our faces.
I'll give him thumbs up for being honest. We always hate when people try to sell us on something they don't believe in, so we shouldn't be upset when we're given honest answers. I liked when Shia admitted that Indy 4 and Transformers 2 were bad. I like that Hendrickson admits flaws in his movies as well as his priorities. Good for him. I happen to disagree, but at least he's not lying to our faces.
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9:58AM on 08/18/2011
Honestly I thought Tron Legacy had a good story, though not exactly mind-blowingly original. And I'm at least happy to say I was not among the hords contributing to Alice in Wonderland and On Stranger Tides' billion-dollar grosses.
Honestly I thought Tron Legacy had a good story, though not exactly mind-blowingly original. And I'm at least happy to say I was not among the hords contributing to Alice in Wonderland and On Stranger Tides' billion-dollar grosses.
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8:27AM on 08/18/2011
Anybody that keen on selling expensive tentpoles needs to be working in a camping supplies store, not movies.
Anybody that keen on selling expensive tentpoles needs to be working in a camping supplies store, not movies.
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5:39AM on 08/18/2011
True for all the mentioned "ALICE IN WONDERLAND, PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: ON STRANGER TIDES and TRON: LEGACY". However, it somehow works in Tron, perhaps because its more character driven than the others, just speculating. Cannot be the fantastic aspect of the film, since they all have that in common; fantasy.
True for all the mentioned "ALICE IN WONDERLAND, PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: ON STRANGER TIDES and TRON: LEGACY". However, it somehow works in Tron, perhaps because its more character driven than the others, just speculating. Cannot be the fantastic aspect of the film, since they all have that in common; fantasy.
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2:47AM on 08/18/2011
Very interesting story & well probably true because all of those movies were terrible IMO & add Cars 2 as major suckage also, the good thing about all those movies, i did not pay to watch.
Very interesting story & well probably true because all of those movies were terrible IMO & add Cars 2 as major suckage also, the good thing about all those movies, i did not pay to watch.
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2:37AM on 08/18/2011
This is pretty sad.
But he's not really a creative force, he's a numbers guy, he couldn't give a fuck if its a great script or not, he cares about the cash.
It's a buisness and they need money to operate, but it's sad that they seem to put so little effort into story.
If that's the case why bother hiring wirters to bash out some spec script at all. There's 100's, probably 1000's of excellent scripts floating around that would make better films that they could pick up cheap. Make those, at
This is pretty sad.
But he's not really a creative force, he's a numbers guy, he couldn't give a fuck if its a great script or not, he cares about the cash.
It's a buisness and they need money to operate, but it's sad that they seem to put so little effort into story.
If that's the case why bother hiring wirters to bash out some spec script at all. There's 100's, probably 1000's of excellent scripts floating around that would make better films that they could pick up cheap. Make those, at least they were writen by people who care and not hired goons.
But then someone with vision has to read them, that's where the whole thing falls apart. You think some minimum wage script reader/coffee bitch/studio gimp gives a fuck about any script they read? No way in hell.
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10:36PM on 08/17/2011

Fuck you Disney.

I didn't spend money to see Alice or Tron. So fuck you.
I didn't spend money to see Alice or Tron. So fuck you.
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10:14PM on 08/17/2011
In all fairness, this is not news by any stretch of the imagination. We remember the great movies because they last and forget the shitty ones because they don't last. Everyone remembers Jaws, but who can tell me something off the top of their heads about Jaws 3? If Jaws created the summer blockbuster, did the Jaws sequels create the summer shit storm that this guy is referring to?
In all fairness, this is not news by any stretch of the imagination. We remember the great movies because they last and forget the shitty ones because they don't last. Everyone remembers Jaws, but who can tell me something off the top of their heads about Jaws 3? If Jaws created the summer blockbuster, did the Jaws sequels create the summer shit storm that this guy is referring to?
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9:04PM on 08/17/2011
It's def sad but very true. Most moviegoers are 13-year olds (or with the mind of 13-year olds) and care only about explosions, boobs and CGI. Just look at the talkbacks on this site. News about movies like Transformers and every pathetic Marvel/DC shitpiece gets like a billion "SO stoked about this" commets while real movies - you know, for grownups - get like 20 comments. Sad.
It's def sad but very true. Most moviegoers are 13-year olds (or with the mind of 13-year olds) and care only about explosions, boobs and CGI. Just look at the talkbacks on this site. News about movies like Transformers and every pathetic Marvel/DC shitpiece gets like a billion "SO stoked about this" commets while real movies - you know, for grownups - get like 20 comments. Sad.
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7:19PM on 08/17/2011
Those movies will not have staying power.
Those movies will not have staying power.
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7:15PM on 08/17/2011
Well I loved Alice in Wonderland and Tron: Legacy and disagree that there is no story in those. So whatever.
Well I loved Alice in Wonderland and Tron: Legacy and disagree that there is no story in those. So whatever.
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7:05PM on 08/17/2011

Bullshit

Tentpole movies like Harry Potter, Dark Knight, and Star Trek have proven that you can have big budget movies that do well at the box office WITH great stories, if you get the right people involved. Just b/c this guy is lazy and will churn out lowest common denominator films to make a quick buck doesn't mean there aren't other people in the industry concerned about story. This guy should be fired.
Tentpole movies like Harry Potter, Dark Knight, and Star Trek have proven that you can have big budget movies that do well at the box office WITH great stories, if you get the right people involved. Just b/c this guy is lazy and will churn out lowest common denominator films to make a quick buck doesn't mean there aren't other people in the industry concerned about story. This guy should be fired.
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6:29PM on 08/17/2011

Story doesn't matter?

Well it goddamn should.
Well it goddamn should.
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6:05PM on 08/17/2011
I liked Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland.....f-t-w
I liked Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland.....f-t-w
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5:35PM on 08/17/2011
Then what about Pixar? Cars 2 wasn't great but that studio prides itself on story, they scrapped production on other films because they couldn't get the story right. Does this not bode well for any post Avengers Marvel movies? Why even get someone like Joss Whedon involved if story means nothing next to the spectacle? Why is a dude representing Disney using the word "bullshit" at a professional conference? So many questions that I wish I didn't have to ask! So last week Disney said they're
Then what about Pixar? Cars 2 wasn't great but that studio prides itself on story, they scrapped production on other films because they couldn't get the story right. Does this not bode well for any post Avengers Marvel movies? Why even get someone like Joss Whedon involved if story means nothing next to the spectacle? Why is a dude representing Disney using the word "bullshit" at a professional conference? So many questions that I wish I didn't have to ask! So last week Disney said they're buying up as many intellectual properties as they can and this week story doesn't matter. I miss the days where Disney acted a soulless entity without bragging about it.
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6:04PM on 08/17/2011
I don't think "Avengers" is something to worry about because that was developed entirely at Marvel. Disney is just a distributor on the films and has no real say on story.
I don't think "Avengers" is something to worry about because that was developed entirely at Marvel. Disney is just a distributor on the films and has no real say on story.
4:47PM on 08/17/2011

I really disagree

Yes, movies are an industry that relies on demands determined by the audience. Yes, he is realistic. He's also really cynical and exploitive of audiences' highest conceivable threshold for compermise. You can determine that CG, brand, and names sell; Hollywood will never determine that a great story sold a movie, and if they do, it will land behind things they can more objectively and easily target. I haven't seen but one movie all summer (because nothing's looked that good to me,
Yes, movies are an industry that relies on demands determined by the audience. Yes, he is realistic. He's also really cynical and exploitive of audiences' highest conceivable threshold for compermise. You can determine that CG, brand, and names sell; Hollywood will never determine that a great story sold a movie, and if they do, it will land behind things they can more objectively and easily target. I haven't seen but one movie all summer (because nothing's looked that good to me, personally), and I do go and see movies I think look good and I've heard good things about. Guess what: Hollywood is not interested in the substantial attractors. No matter how many good movies I make a point to see, it won't give guys like this jerk a heart or passion for the medium.

In the end, someone has to make a great movie because they've got it in them. And when they do, we won't ignore it. History, and sooner or later returns, have generally been kind to great films.
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4:11PM on 08/17/2011

you can not blame this guy for one second

like it or not, believe it or try to deny it -- the movie industry is a business. And business is about money. People have shown that they care more about what he is talking about rather than story by NOT GOING TO THE MOVIES that are so focused on the story and BY GOING TO THE OTHER MOVIES instead. It's our/your/my fault -- the guy's just speaking the truth, movies are a business -- and it's supply and demand people. Whatever we eat up, we get more of, whatever we don't, we get very little of.
like it or not, believe it or try to deny it -- the movie industry is a business. And business is about money. People have shown that they care more about what he is talking about rather than story by NOT GOING TO THE MOVIES that are so focused on the story and BY GOING TO THE OTHER MOVIES instead. It's our/your/my fault -- the guy's just speaking the truth, movies are a business -- and it's supply and demand people. Whatever we eat up, we get more of, whatever we don't, we get very little of.
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4:09PM on 08/17/2011

Where's John Lasseter?

I thought when he took over Disney, things would start to look up for their live-action work. Their recent animated films (THE PRINCESS AND THE FROG and TANGLED) have been exemplary. Were Disney's recent live-action projects put into action before Lasseter took over, or does he just not care?
I thought when he took over Disney, things would start to look up for their live-action work. Their recent animated films (THE PRINCESS AND THE FROG and TANGLED) have been exemplary. Were Disney's recent live-action projects put into action before Lasseter took over, or does he just not care?
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3:47PM on 08/17/2011
To bad Disney had two of the biggest flops last year with Prince of Persia and The Sorcerers Apprentice. Then Tron didnt perform THAT great and Pirates 4 sucked. Glad hes still keeping that mind set....
To bad Disney had two of the biggest flops last year with Prince of Persia and The Sorcerers Apprentice. Then Tron didnt perform THAT great and Pirates 4 sucked. Glad hes still keeping that mind set....
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4:05PM on 08/17/2011
Yes, they technically did flop, but only in the U.S. Movies are a global market now. Pirates was a massive success around the world. That's what studios are looking for now: global hits. Movies that don't lose a lot in translation, i.e. ginat stupid robots fighting in a story that doesn't make any sense and doesn't need to when it has cool imagery. I know the world needs better films, but when you have one movie that needs to play in hundreds of different territories, eye candy is a sure fire
Yes, they technically did flop, but only in the U.S. Movies are a global market now. Pirates was a massive success around the world. That's what studios are looking for now: global hits. Movies that don't lose a lot in translation, i.e. ginat stupid robots fighting in a story that doesn't make any sense and doesn't need to when it has cool imagery. I know the world needs better films, but when you have one movie that needs to play in hundreds of different territories, eye candy is a sure fire way to make your money.
3:13PM on 08/17/2011
least they admitted. But it would be nice to see a blockbuster like Inception every year.
least they admitted. But it would be nice to see a blockbuster like Inception every year.
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3:11PM on 08/17/2011

In Defense of Tim Burton

Burton always makes a sellout movie before a personal project. Pee Wee and Batman, while some of my favorite films, seemed to be more about getting him cred for his style of films like Beetlejuice, Edward Scissorhands, and Batman Returns. Mars Attacks! came before Sleepy Hollow, Planet Apes before Big Fish, and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory before Corpse Bride. Dark Shadows seems to be his personal project following his sellout of Alice in Wonderland, a smart career move in terms of keeping
Burton always makes a sellout movie before a personal project. Pee Wee and Batman, while some of my favorite films, seemed to be more about getting him cred for his style of films like Beetlejuice, Edward Scissorhands, and Batman Returns. Mars Attacks! came before Sleepy Hollow, Planet Apes before Big Fish, and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory before Corpse Bride. Dark Shadows seems to be his personal project following his sellout of Alice in Wonderland, a smart career move in terms of keeping him afloat as a bankable director. Here's to hoping that him revisiting his past obsession brings back more of his early creativity.
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5:25PM on 08/17/2011
I don't mind Burton using tentpole blockbusters to boost his cred and back smaller personal projects, but why do his big films have to suck so much? Other directors use this tactic without making such awful movies. Chris Nolan for example. Batman Begins followed by the Prestige. TDK followed by Inception. I'm sure he'll do another personal project after TDKR. But at least his tentpole money makers are still good flicks.
I don't mind Burton using tentpole blockbusters to boost his cred and back smaller personal projects, but why do his big films have to suck so much? Other directors use this tactic without making such awful movies. Chris Nolan for example. Batman Begins followed by the Prestige. TDK followed by Inception. I'm sure he'll do another personal project after TDKR. But at least his tentpole money makers are still good flicks.
3:07PM on 08/17/2011

So...

am I the only one who thought the storyline of Tron: Legacy wasn't really that bad?
am I the only one who thought the storyline of Tron: Legacy wasn't really that bad?
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3:16PM on 08/17/2011
Yup...haha, I kid, it wasn't THAT bad, but for all the work that went into it, you would thought they had something that wasn't so generic....
Yup...haha, I kid, it wasn't THAT bad, but for all the work that went into it, you would thought they had something that wasn't so generic....
3:31PM on 08/17/2011
I agree, but people below me are applauding Avatar for have a plot even tho it was generic.. So why the Tron hate.. People confuse me.
I agree, but people below me are applauding Avatar for have a plot even tho it was generic.. So why the Tron hate.. People confuse me.
4:12PM on 08/17/2011
yeah I thought it was pretty cool...
yeah I thought it was pretty cool...
2:53PM on 08/17/2011
I actually hold nothing against this guy. He's not a creative mind, he's a businessman, and I respect his bluntness, if not his inevitable greed. What pisses me off is that he's right. The days of character driven blockbusters with good stories are a thing of the past (and hopefully the future, but certainly not the present).

Instead of Jaws and Star Wars, we get shit like Transformers and Alice in Wonderland. Blech.

Though I must say I think Tron: Legacy was fantastic. The story may
I actually hold nothing against this guy. He's not a creative mind, he's a businessman, and I respect his bluntness, if not his inevitable greed. What pisses me off is that he's right. The days of character driven blockbusters with good stories are a thing of the past (and hopefully the future, but certainly not the present).

Instead of Jaws and Star Wars, we get shit like Transformers and Alice in Wonderland. Blech.

Though I must say I think Tron: Legacy was fantastic. The story may not have been Oscar worthy, but it was put together well enough that it supported the spectacle. In my opinion, anyway.
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2:16PM on 08/17/2011
Not too surprising that a big name actor and special effects are becoming more important to studios. but to come out and admit we dont care about the script, instead of just having me believe that they like the script but just have poor taste is bullshit
Not too surprising that a big name actor and special effects are becoming more important to studios. but to come out and admit we dont care about the script, instead of just having me believe that they like the script but just have poor taste is bullshit
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4:12PM on 08/17/2011
yeah, next time just lie to use please... please.
yeah, next time just lie to use please... please.
1:37PM on 08/17/2011

3D isn't helping...

I hate the Third Dimension! I don't care if it's filmed in 3D or converted. I don't need depth, Hollywood, I need clarity. If you're going to sacrifice a story for visuals, at least ditch the unnecessary visual element forced upon us and use the money elsewhere. And yeah, yeah, yeah, I get the whole James Cameron approach of NOT doing the typical gimmick of something popping out at you every 5 minutes, but then what's the f*cking point? If you can't already convey depth within a 2D image, then
I hate the Third Dimension! I don't care if it's filmed in 3D or converted. I don't need depth, Hollywood, I need clarity. If you're going to sacrifice a story for visuals, at least ditch the unnecessary visual element forced upon us and use the money elsewhere. And yeah, yeah, yeah, I get the whole James Cameron approach of NOT doing the typical gimmick of something popping out at you every 5 minutes, but then what's the f*cking point? If you can't already convey depth within a 2D image, then it's not worth it.
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1:36PM on 08/17/2011
I loved Tron Legacy, I thought it had a great story. I don't think it was perfectly written, but I don't think it deserves anywhere near the negative attention it gets. To me it, it was a heartwarming father and son story with light cycles, I'm good with that.
I loved Tron Legacy, I thought it had a great story. I don't think it was perfectly written, but I don't think it deserves anywhere near the negative attention it gets. To me it, it was a heartwarming father and son story with light cycles, I'm good with that.
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2:33PM on 08/17/2011
Totally agree.
Totally agree.
1:28PM on 08/17/2011

Wow....

Tell us something we don't know Hendrickson.
ALICE IN WONDERLAND was fucking awful on way too many levels but everyone couldn't stay away from the visual spectacle. TRON 2 was a good step in the right direction but even it needed a bit more work script wise. For both films though, it was all about the visuals.
Either way it isn't the fault of the studios. People continue seeing stupid fucking movies that Adam Sandler makes so why shouldn't he keep pumping out bullshit. And he's just one of
Tell us something we don't know Hendrickson.
ALICE IN WONDERLAND was fucking awful on way too many levels but everyone couldn't stay away from the visual spectacle. TRON 2 was a good step in the right direction but even it needed a bit more work script wise. For both films though, it was all about the visuals.
Either way it isn't the fault of the studios. People continue seeing stupid fucking movies that Adam Sandler makes so why shouldn't he keep pumping out bullshit. And he's just one of several hundred examples.
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1:25PM on 08/17/2011
The way I read it is that he's just rubbing it in our faces. "Yes, we'll continue to make shit movies and you'll still see 'em." I think after the success of original movies like Inception and Super 8, for example, slowly but surely we'll see more original, story driven films.
The way I read it is that he's just rubbing it in our faces. "Yes, we'll continue to make shit movies and you'll still see 'em." I think after the success of original movies like Inception and Super 8, for example, slowly but surely we'll see more original, story driven films.
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4:18PM on 08/18/2011
ur right.
ur right.
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1:00PM on 08/17/2011
...and water's wet.
...and water's wet.
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12:58PM on 08/17/2011
This just makes the very few movies out there who sincerely care about their story shine all the more. Soooo I think I'll go watch one of them now, "Super" here I come! :)
This just makes the very few movies out there who sincerely care about their story shine all the more. Soooo I think I'll go watch one of them now, "Super" here I come! :)
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12:50PM on 08/17/2011
Good for him for admitting it, I guess. Truly a pity, though... particularly when such a team as Verbinski, Depp, Elliot & Rossio are being put on the outs. Why are people weirding out about werewolves, anyway? It's the same sort of legend embellishment that Elliot & Rossio accomplished so well with the first three Pirates movies, and I'd have loved to see it. Here's hoping the project could get made elsewhere. Urgh, I'm on a tangent now... but this is just such a disheartening article. Frowny
Good for him for admitting it, I guess. Truly a pity, though... particularly when such a team as Verbinski, Depp, Elliot & Rossio are being put on the outs. Why are people weirding out about werewolves, anyway? It's the same sort of legend embellishment that Elliot & Rossio accomplished so well with the first three Pirates movies, and I'd have loved to see it. Here's hoping the project could get made elsewhere. Urgh, I'm on a tangent now... but this is just such a disheartening article. Frowny face.
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12:42PM on 08/17/2011

Also, the guy is wrong.

In a weak story, even Johnny Depp's once highly praised Jack Sparrow character starts to fade. In the US, Pirates 4 made far less money than the previous ones.

Tron Legacy could have been last year's Avatar. It reached $170M which is not bad but nothing to Avatar's $760M. It was such a badly written film I adviced people not to see it just for the visuals.

The Narnia films made less and less money as each entry had a worse script.

What I loved about Inception is that it was a
In a weak story, even Johnny Depp's once highly praised Jack Sparrow character starts to fade. In the US, Pirates 4 made far less money than the previous ones.

Tron Legacy could have been last year's Avatar. It reached $170M which is not bad but nothing to Avatar's $760M. It was such a badly written film I adviced people not to see it just for the visuals.

The Narnia films made less and less money as each entry had a worse script.

What I loved about Inception is that it was a well-written film that made a lot of money - like giving the finger to people like this.
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2:02PM on 08/17/2011
Tron did $400,000,000 and Avatar $2.7 billion

US Box office matters little these days, international grosses almost always eclipse them on tent-poles.
Tron did $400,000,000 and Avatar $2.7 billion

US Box office matters little these days, international grosses almost always eclipse them on tent-poles.
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12:34PM on 08/17/2011
If he was alive today, Disney would fire the whole gang himself. It's a shame what did they do to his name.
If he was alive today, Disney would fire the whole gang himself. It's a shame what did they do to his name.
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12:25PM on 08/17/2011
Idiocracy it's starting to look more and more prophetic.
Idiocracy it's starting to look more and more prophetic.
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12:23PM on 08/17/2011
Agree with Captain Planet. At least Avatar had a story, a generic one at best. But what made it work was the new world with an old fashion love story. A lot of people don't realize that zombie movies have the same premise even though it's hard to make it anything else. At Least George A. Romero tried it with 2005's Land of the Dead, in which people hated. I loved it because it gave the zombies a meaning.
Agree with Captain Planet. At least Avatar had a story, a generic one at best. But what made it work was the new world with an old fashion love story. A lot of people don't realize that zombie movies have the same premise even though it's hard to make it anything else. At Least George A. Romero tried it with 2005's Land of the Dead, in which people hated. I loved it because it gave the zombies a meaning.
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12:22PM on 08/17/2011

Refreshing

this guy is pretty much right. I dont really give 2 shits about the story of Tron, I just wanted to look at that movie. If Pirates had an amazing storyline people would still crap on it. People aren't going to blockbusters to discuss the story elements after. they leave talking about how cool that scene was. There are plenty of movies to watch if you want an "amazing" story and most of them are overrated indie horseshit anyway.
this guy is pretty much right. I dont really give 2 shits about the story of Tron, I just wanted to look at that movie. If Pirates had an amazing storyline people would still crap on it. People aren't going to blockbusters to discuss the story elements after. they leave talking about how cool that scene was. There are plenty of movies to watch if you want an "amazing" story and most of them are overrated indie horseshit anyway.
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11:41AM on 08/17/2011
I go to movies because I enjoy good stories and the spectacle. Most trailers for Tentpole movies promise both, that is why I go. Only a few actually actually deliver.

to say that story isn't the driving force behind why people go to the movies is misguided.

If trailer leads you to believe it is a good story and it turns out to be a bad story, you don't get your money back. so bad films with good trailers will make lots of money. Not because people don't care about the story, its
I go to movies because I enjoy good stories and the spectacle. Most trailers for Tentpole movies promise both, that is why I go. Only a few actually actually deliver.

to say that story isn't the driving force behind why people go to the movies is misguided.

If trailer leads you to believe it is a good story and it turns out to be a bad story, you don't get your money back. so bad films with good trailers will make lots of money. Not because people don't care about the story, its because the trailer promised a good story to go along with the spectacle.



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12:03PM on 08/17/2011
A movie doesn't make $1 billion worldwide because everyone goes only once. They make that kind of money due to multiple viewings, which means people are putting their money down to see bullshit more than once.
A movie doesn't make $1 billion worldwide because everyone goes only once. They make that kind of money due to multiple viewings, which means people are putting their money down to see bullshit more than once.
11:26AM on 08/17/2011
Because people are fuckwits.
When something like Avatar comes out, they bash it for having a simple story. But at least it had one. It was simple, archetypal and emotionally resonant. 'Rise of the Apes' is no more complex a story than Avatar. Both films have souls. But for some reason James Cameron has become a human target practice for all the snarks out there. Sure he dumbed down his Avatar scriptment to appeal to a more broad audience, but it was still a hell of a lot smarter than most
Because people are fuckwits.
When something like Avatar comes out, they bash it for having a simple story. But at least it had one. It was simple, archetypal and emotionally resonant. 'Rise of the Apes' is no more complex a story than Avatar. Both films have souls. But for some reason James Cameron has become a human target practice for all the snarks out there. Sure he dumbed down his Avatar scriptment to appeal to a more broad audience, but it was still a hell of a lot smarter than most summer films.
'Alice in Wonderland' was a soulless random image generator that molested my senses. This is a film with NO STORY.
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11:10AM on 08/17/2011
We only have ourselves to blame for this.
We only have ourselves to blame for this.
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12:01PM on 08/17/2011
Speak for yourself.
Speak for yourself.
12:06PM on 08/17/2011
Well, I know that I didn't go to see the real shitty summer movies. The movies that got my money this summer.

Super 8, Bridesmaids, Midnight in Paris, The Tree of Life, Attack the Block, XMen First Class, Rise of the Planet of the Apes, Potter, The Devil's Double, The Future.
Well, I know that I didn't go to see the real shitty summer movies. The movies that got my money this summer.

Super 8, Bridesmaids, Midnight in Paris, The Tree of Life, Attack the Block, XMen First Class, Rise of the Planet of the Apes, Potter, The Devil's Double, The Future.
11:08AM on 08/17/2011
Weird, but I'm glad someone within the studio so brazenly admitted that. Makes me not feel like such an old man for thinking that most blockbusters lately have sucked. Tron being among the worst to me.
Weird, but I'm glad someone within the studio so brazenly admitted that. Makes me not feel like such an old man for thinking that most blockbusters lately have sucked. Tron being among the worst to me.
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