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Old school Muppeteers not exactly thrilled with the new Muppets movie

10.21.2011

When I first saw the MUPPETS trailer, I wondered allowed (to no one in particular) whether they were able to get legendary puppeteer Frank Oz back in the fold. Listening to Miss Piggy (his most famous work), it certainly didn't sound like it. As it turns out, Oz declined the opportunity to return for THE MUPPETS and he joins a number of Jim Henson-era puppeteers in expressing displeasure with the upcoming film.

Regarding his choice to stay away from THE MUPPETS, Oz told British newspaper The Metro, "I wasn't happy with the script...I don't think they respected the characters.

To add insult to injury, Steve Whitmire, the only puppeteer to work and voice Kermit since the death of Henson, actually considered taking his name off the final film. Whitmire, and a handful of other original Muppets staff, only relented because they eventually realized, "[Disney] wouldn't care."

At particular issue for some Muppet veterans were jokes, like the one you see in the trailer with Fozzie and his farting shoes, that were harming the integrity of the characters. They also took umbrage with the fact that Kermit, now wealthy and living in a mansion, was resented by his fellow Muppets.

What's particularly interesting is that the Jim Henson Legacy seems to have little to no input on the film. The Executive Director of his legacy, who designed and built the original Miss Piggy, hasn't even seen the film and she admits she's nervous. "I'm hoping the standard of excellence that Jim set is maintained," she said rather diplomatically.

To his credit, actor and co-writer Jason Segel is a huge Muppets fan and would not knowingly go ahead with the project he felt was compromising the integrity of the Muppets. But what will this mean for the film itself? If people familiar with the old school Muppets we know and love aren't happy with the film (including people who worked on it), will we suffer the same fate?

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Source: THR

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4:55AM on 10/23/2011
I doubt they even asked Frank Oz to do it. Eric Jacobson has been doing Miss Piggy, Fozzie, Grover and others for more than a decade.
I doubt they even asked Frank Oz to do it. Eric Jacobson has been doing Miss Piggy, Fozzie, Grover and others for more than a decade.
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2:40AM on 10/22/2011

Not concerned

The Muppets haven't had a really great film since Jim died (save for Muppet Christmas Carol) so I personally wouldn't mind seeing a new take. I grew up with the Muppets and have I no problem with a rich Kermit or farting shoes. I'd put money on it being better than Muppets in Space.
The Muppets haven't had a really great film since Jim died (save for Muppet Christmas Carol) so I personally wouldn't mind seeing a new take. I grew up with the Muppets and have I no problem with a rich Kermit or farting shoes. I'd put money on it being better than Muppets in Space.
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12:37AM on 10/22/2011

education is dead.

wondered allowed...really? how about this one...? "what they should of done...". haha...if you dont laugh youll cry.
its a sad statement have affairs. haha...see what i did there.....haha.
wondered allowed...really? how about this one...? "what they should of done...". haha...if you dont laugh youll cry.
its a sad statement have affairs. haha...see what i did there.....haha.
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7:56PM on 10/21/2011
I find it very hard to believe for even a second that Segal would ruin characters that he grew up loving. The guy isn't a dick, he wouldn't do that.
I find it very hard to believe for even a second that Segal would ruin characters that he grew up loving. The guy isn't a dick, he wouldn't do that.
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7:35PM on 10/21/2011
Is Miss piggy really Frank Oz's most famous work? I thought for sure it was Yoda.
Is Miss piggy really Frank Oz's most famous work? I thought for sure it was Yoda.
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6:28PM on 10/21/2011
I have no desire to see this movie in the first place, jason segel or not, but I guess I'm confused why people that were instrumental in creating the muppet world and feel they have some ownership over it are not allowed to make any complaints about this movie, it will obviously have no effect whatsoever on who sees it. I guess that means no more internet complaining about any remake or unecessary sequel.
I have no desire to see this movie in the first place, jason segel or not, but I guess I'm confused why people that were instrumental in creating the muppet world and feel they have some ownership over it are not allowed to make any complaints about this movie, it will obviously have no effect whatsoever on who sees it. I guess that means no more internet complaining about any remake or unecessary sequel.
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5:48PM on 10/21/2011

oh whatever

The reason I'm so excited for this movie isn't because it's another Muppets movie but because it's another Muppets movie BY Jason Segel.

A movie like this could easily blow chunks without the right crew behind it, but thankfully someone like Segel is the right crew, both in terms of passion and in terms of freshness and comedy.

Can't wait to see it.
The reason I'm so excited for this movie isn't because it's another Muppets movie but because it's another Muppets movie BY Jason Segel.

A movie like this could easily blow chunks without the right crew behind it, but thankfully someone like Segel is the right crew, both in terms of passion and in terms of freshness and comedy.

Can't wait to see it.
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3:49PM on 10/21/2011
The Metro isn't really a reliable source. It's like a free paper you get on the train.

Still if Frank Oz isn't doing Miss Piggy that says a little about his feeling son the production. Not to mention with impact it's going to have on it. It feels weird to see a character he basically created being done without his involvment.

And I REALLY hated the fart jokes in the trailer. It looks like it could have been great but I don't think it will be.

STILL muppets on the big screen again. At
The Metro isn't really a reliable source. It's like a free paper you get on the train.

Still if Frank Oz isn't doing Miss Piggy that says a little about his feeling son the production. Not to mention with impact it's going to have on it. It feels weird to see a character he basically created being done without his involvment.

And I REALLY hated the fart jokes in the trailer. It looks like it could have been great but I don't think it will be.

STILL muppets on the big screen again. At least theres that.
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3:10PM on 10/21/2011

We Built This City?

I think the fact that they do a song and dance routine to one of the worst songs in rock n' roll history says it all. Stinkfest!
I think the fact that they do a song and dance routine to one of the worst songs in rock n' roll history says it all. Stinkfest!
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1:21PM on 10/21/2011

I have a lot of respect for Frank Oz and the rest of the Henson team but..

They also did Muppets in Space and Muppets Treasure Island which were def sellout material in my eyes and lacked all the magic of the originals.

So bring on this new one..cant wait. Ill be there first day
They also did Muppets in Space and Muppets Treasure Island which were def sellout material in my eyes and lacked all the magic of the originals.

So bring on this new one..cant wait. Ill be there first day
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5:17PM on 10/21/2011
Muppets From Space was criminally awful. However I really enjoyed Muppet Treasure Island. I was actually disappointed that they didn't continue on the classic novels genre following Muppet Christmas Carol and Muppet Treasure Island.
Muppets From Space was criminally awful. However I really enjoyed Muppet Treasure Island. I was actually disappointed that they didn't continue on the classic novels genre following Muppet Christmas Carol and Muppet Treasure Island.
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1:03PM on 10/21/2011
I think the trailers look great and I think it even has an old school feel to it. I'm not going to worry about what the veterans say about it since they were the ones that drove the franchise into the ground in the first place.
I think the trailers look great and I think it even has an old school feel to it. I'm not going to worry about what the veterans say about it since they were the ones that drove the franchise into the ground in the first place.
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12:40PM on 10/21/2011
I think this is a case of people who are unhappy cause either they are not getting special treatment or a paycheck just for a good review. If they were paid enough they will change their tune. Besides Im curious what will happen when the muppets take over wwe raw on halloween. That should be interesting.
I think this is a case of people who are unhappy cause either they are not getting special treatment or a paycheck just for a good review. If they were paid enough they will change their tune. Besides Im curious what will happen when the muppets take over wwe raw on halloween. That should be interesting.
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1:01PM on 10/21/2011
WHAT!? This will have to be my first wrestling event I will watch since the Rock was the the Peoples champ.
WHAT!? This will have to be my first wrestling event I will watch since the Rock was the the Peoples champ.
12:09PM on 10/21/2011
I still think this film looks great. Sometimes the best ideas come from the fans rather than the original creators.
I still think this film looks great. Sometimes the best ideas come from the fans rather than the original creators.
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12:59PM on 10/21/2011
Example: Star Wars
Example: Star Wars
11:18AM on 10/21/2011

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I'm pretty sure you wondered "ALOUD"...not "allowed".
I'm pretty sure you wondered "ALOUD"...not "allowed".
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10:43PM on 10/21/2011
I'm sure you mean well, but I'm sure a PM to Mike directly would take care of it in a jiffy.
I'm sure you mean well, but I'm sure a PM to Mike directly would take care of it in a jiffy.
10:56PM on 10/21/2011
I don't care how many thumbs up this got, it is never cool to be a grammar nazi.
I don't care how many thumbs up this got, it is never cool to be a grammar nazi.
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10:55AM on 10/21/2011

how sad

If you don't get the blessing from the pioneers, then you know this will be a problem. Don't think I will be interested to see this.
If you don't get the blessing from the pioneers, then you know this will be a problem. Don't think I will be interested to see this.
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5:49PM on 10/21/2011
too bad, everyone well will be.
too bad, everyone well will be.
2:50PM on 10/27/2011
So it's ok that George Lucas derailed his franchise, but not ok for a fan to make a better movie?
So it's ok that George Lucas derailed his franchise, but not ok for a fan to make a better movie?
10:54AM on 10/21/2011

Wow! I had no idea.

Seriously, Miss Piggy sounded like Miss Piggy to me. And the movie looks awesome, and from what I hear, it is. Although I have heard there is no Rizzo, which is criminal.
Kinda shocking that there had been problems, I figured they would be all for a new Muppet movie that wasn't straight to DVD.
Seriously, Miss Piggy sounded like Miss Piggy to me. And the movie looks awesome, and from what I hear, it is. Although I have heard there is no Rizzo, which is criminal.
Kinda shocking that there had been problems, I figured they would be all for a new Muppet movie that wasn't straight to DVD.
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