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Oscar voting changes

09.01.2009

You may recall how in an effort to boost viewing numbers, the Academy Awards have opened up the Best Picture category so that your favorite (bat-themed and/or Pixar) films can be nominated alongside whatever the Coen Bros/Scorsese have out that year. But with this new expansion now comes a new set of voting rules, one that involves the 5,800 Academy members ranking their choices in order.

"Instead of just marking an 'X' to indicate which one picture they believe to be the best, members will indicate their second, third and further preferences as well," Academy president Tom Sherak said. "PricewaterhouseCoopers will then be able to establish the best picture recipient with the strongest support of a majority of our electorate."

The reasoning for this is with ten films now nominated, the vote is much more likely to be split, and it doesn’t seem fair that a nominee could theoretically win with 11% of the vote. By ranking, this will ensure that this won’t happen, and also that you really shouldn’t see dramatic shake-ups in the kinds of films that win, as I doubt you would have seen the snobs members of the Academy all rallying together for THE DARK KNIGHT, should it have found their way onto their ballots last year.

Extra Tidbit: I know we’re just approaching awards movie season, but I can’t think more than a couple movies that would be nominated, even with the new system. BASTERDS, UP, what else?
Source: Variety

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2:13AM on 09/02/2009
So they are following the lead of the MTV, Kid's Choice and Teen Choice Awards, except having the Academy voting instead of the audience.

I'm also agreeing with the sentiment of making a moratorium for putting Dark Knight and any variation of "Academy jerks" in the same sentence. During the awards show, they interviewed dozens of academy members during a montage and a great number of them cited The Dark Knight as their favorite movie of the year.
So they are following the lead of the MTV, Kid's Choice and Teen Choice Awards, except having the Academy voting instead of the audience.

I'm also agreeing with the sentiment of making a moratorium for putting Dark Knight and any variation of "Academy jerks" in the same sentence. During the awards show, they interviewed dozens of academy members during a montage and a great number of them cited The Dark Knight as their favorite movie of the year.
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11:28PM on 09/01/2009

ehhh

Dont mess with a good thing...just because a few people want other kinds of movies to be nominated, doesnt mean the Oscars need to change. I think it would be bad if a cartoon movie won because picture, or Shrek won best actor, etc...if you want to include other kinds of movies, made a seperate awards show!
Though I am all for new changes, not sure what to think yet...
Dont mess with a good thing...just because a few people want other kinds of movies to be nominated, doesnt mean the Oscars need to change. I think it would be bad if a cartoon movie won because picture, or Shrek won best actor, etc...if you want to include other kinds of movies, made a seperate awards show!
Though I am all for new changes, not sure what to think yet...
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11:00PM on 09/01/2009
THE DARK KNIGHT DESERVED NOTHING! GET OFF THE FANBOY BANDWAGON!

Sorry, yelling done. Fuck the Academy.
THE DARK KNIGHT DESERVED NOTHING! GET OFF THE FANBOY BANDWAGON!

Sorry, yelling done. Fuck the Academy.
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9:16PM on 09/01/2009
500 Days of Summer and the Hurt Locker for me. It would be nice to see Up make it as well..
500 Days of Summer and the Hurt Locker for me. It would be nice to see Up make it as well..
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7:47PM on 09/01/2009

Didn't Hurt Locker come out in 2008

I love the film, but the IMDB page lists it as 2008 film and does that stop from it qualifying for a best picture nom? I don't know...

The best pictures I have seen this year have been Hurt Locker, Up, (500) Days of Summer and District 9. None of which, except UP which would bag the Best Animated Feature Oscar, would traditionally make a Best Picture nomination.

Having said that, I think the Oscar nominations are a good way to generate interest among the movie fan who only has access to
I love the film, but the IMDB page lists it as 2008 film and does that stop from it qualifying for a best picture nom? I don't know...

The best pictures I have seen this year have been Hurt Locker, Up, (500) Days of Summer and District 9. None of which, except UP which would bag the Best Animated Feature Oscar, would traditionally make a Best Picture nomination.

Having said that, I think the Oscar nominations are a good way to generate interest among the movie fan who only has access to mainstream fare.

As I was typing this up, I just remembered...Why no love for Public Enemies?! I like the movie and the academy is a sucker for period pieces.
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6:54PM on 09/01/2009

Star Trek

One of the best-reviewed films of the year. Deserves the "blockbuster" slot, definitely in the top 10. It would be the consolation for The Dark Knight.
One of the best-reviewed films of the year. Deserves the "blockbuster" slot, definitely in the top 10. It would be the consolation for The Dark Knight.
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5:46PM on 09/01/2009
Invictus is a biopic of NELSON MANDELLA starring MORGAN FREEMAN directed by CLINT EASTWOOD. Could be the worst movie of all time, but it would still get a nod
Invictus is a biopic of NELSON MANDELLA starring MORGAN FREEMAN directed by CLINT EASTWOOD. Could be the worst movie of all time, but it would still get a nod
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6:05PM on 09/01/2009
Chances that its that bad are pretty much nonexistent ...
Chances that its that bad are pretty much nonexistent ...
4:39PM on 09/01/2009
I Really hope Basterds gets a Best Picture nomination and but i have a feeling invictus will win
I Really hope Basterds gets a Best Picture nomination and but i have a feeling invictus will win
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3:41PM on 09/01/2009

Possible nominations

Lovely Bones
Up in The Air
Shutter Island
A Serious Man
Where The Wild Things Are
White Ribbon
The Hurt Locker
Nine-The Musical
Precious
Invictus
Lovely Bones
Up in The Air
Shutter Island
A Serious Man
Where The Wild Things Are
White Ribbon
The Hurt Locker
Nine-The Musical
Precious
Invictus
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3:48PM on 09/01/2009
you left out Crank 2: High Voltage
you left out Crank 2: High Voltage
4:09PM on 09/01/2009
Shutter Island was moved to february so its out of the running this year
Shutter Island was moved to february so its out of the running this year
4:33PM on 09/01/2009
Hmmm, dude! You call me an idiot, and you put Shutter Island on your list when EVERYONE knows its been pushed back to February ?

Again! Thank you for proving my point...
Hmmm, dude! You call me an idiot, and you put Shutter Island on your list when EVERYONE knows its been pushed back to February ?

Again! Thank you for proving my point...
3:22PM on 09/01/2009
Basically Basterds was a love letter to cinema, if the Academy members are smart enough to see what the film really was, I think it has fair chances of being nominated, but if, like too many unaware moviegoers who only saw it as an entertaining - or not - chatty and violent picture, then its got no chance.
Basically Basterds was a love letter to cinema, if the Academy members are smart enough to see what the film really was, I think it has fair chances of being nominated, but if, like too many unaware moviegoers who only saw it as an entertaining - or not - chatty and violent picture, then its got no chance.
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3:35PM on 09/01/2009
Your an idiot
Your an idiot
4:32PM on 09/01/2009
Thank you for proving my point. I think its sad that you cant enjoy movies as art.
Thank you for proving my point. I think its sad that you cant enjoy movies as art.
7:09PM on 09/01/2009
Skellington, do you have any idea what youre talking about?

Now I dont know Bicycle Thief personally, but seeing as thats his username, its pretty likely he has a good knowledge of film, and would appreciate film as art, or a "love letter" as much as you or anybody else
Skellington, do you have any idea what youre talking about?

Now I dont know Bicycle Thief personally, but seeing as thats his username, its pretty likely he has a good knowledge of film, and would appreciate film as art, or a "love letter" as much as you or anybody else
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2:41PM on 09/01/2009

Basterds?

That has to be a joke! We all know that 99% of the real Oscar films come out after Thanksgiving. I'm feeling 'Lovely Bones' and 'Hurt Locker'.
That has to be a joke! We all know that 99% of the real Oscar films come out after Thanksgiving. I'm feeling 'Lovely Bones' and 'Hurt Locker'.
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1:57PM on 09/01/2009
Basterds for Best Picture?!
Thats a joke right?
Basterds for Best Picture?!
Thats a joke right?
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3:25PM on 09/01/2009
i gotta agree. overall, i liked basterds, it was entertaining, but it was nothing more than an Itchy and Scratchy episode with extensive dialogue. there was even an ithcy and scratchy episode in which they took on the nazi and (SPOILER) killed a certain leader. wentz - maybe best supporting actor. but basterds was more of a guilty pleasure for QT fans than a Best Picture nominee.
i gotta agree. overall, i liked basterds, it was entertaining, but it was nothing more than an Itchy and Scratchy episode with extensive dialogue. there was even an ithcy and scratchy episode in which they took on the nazi and (SPOILER) killed a certain leader. wentz - maybe best supporting actor. but basterds was more of a guilty pleasure for QT fans than a Best Picture nominee.
1:57PM on 09/01/2009
I hope The Hurt Locker or 500 Days of Summer gets nominated this year. As far as District 9 goes, I doubt it will receive anything other than a Visual Effects nomination.
I hope The Hurt Locker or 500 Days of Summer gets nominated this year. As far as District 9 goes, I doubt it will receive anything other than a Visual Effects nomination.
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1:58PM on 09/01/2009
i haven't seen 500 Days but i agree with everything else you say
i haven't seen 500 Days but i agree with everything else you say
2:02PM on 09/01/2009
Second that on 500 Days of Summer. It's this year's Once.
Second that on 500 Days of Summer. It's this year's Once.
1:55PM on 09/01/2009
The only films I have seen this year that I believe should even be thought about for oscars are 500 Days of Summer, The Hurt Locker, Up, and maybe Star Trek. Nothing else has come close.
The only films I have seen this year that I believe should even be thought about for oscars are 500 Days of Summer, The Hurt Locker, Up, and maybe Star Trek. Nothing else has come close.
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1:36PM on 09/01/2009

Ranking their picks is a smart idea

Reallistically, I think there are probably about half a dosen films so far that could be nominated. Machinegunrap is right, The Hurt Locker has a pretty strong chance as the academy seems to be becoming increasingly aware of non-awards-season releases. I also think that considering the flack they've got in the past for snubbing Pixar films Up might finally beat the odds and get a nod, and depending on how the rest of the year pans out I think Ponyo might also have a slight chance. Aside from
Reallistically, I think there are probably about half a dosen films so far that could be nominated. Machinegunrap is right, The Hurt Locker has a pretty strong chance as the academy seems to be becoming increasingly aware of non-awards-season releases. I also think that considering the flack they've got in the past for snubbing Pixar films Up might finally beat the odds and get a nod, and depending on how the rest of the year pans out I think Ponyo might also have a slight chance. Aside from those I think (500) Days of Summer has a pretty decent shot since recent years have seen their fair share of quirky indie comedies (Little Miss Sunshine, Juno) get nominated and it has pretty comparable reviews to those films.

I don't think Moon has much of a chance since critics were actually fairly split on it and we know how tough the academy is on genre material, however I honestly could see them going either way on District 9. The films has received such overwhelmingly positive reviews and has enough supporters that I really could see it making the cut. That was part of the rationale in allowing ten nominees, so that films with a narrower but vocal support base would get nominated and I can see Disctrict 9 doing just that. Inglorious Basterds seems to have rekindled a lot of Tarantino love amongst critics and I could see where it's combination of a foreign cast, acclaimed writing and appeal to the younger generation would make it an attractive pick for the academy. If a lot of strong contenders emerge toward the end of the year, it probably won't get nominated, but as things stand right now I think it certainly has a chance.

Finally, with ten best picture slots I think there's a good chance we'll see a foreign language film included and, if the critics still remember it by the end of the year, I think Sin Nombre will definitely have a shot at best foreign film, and perhaps best picture if no other foreign films eclipse it. I also think Sugar and Goobye Solo would have had decent shots at major awards, if not necessarily best picture, if they had been released later in the year, but have been more or less screwed by their release dates.
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1:34PM on 09/01/2009
I've been waiting for The Road for quite some time and I can definitely see it being on there.
I've been waiting for The Road for quite some time and I can definitely see it being on there.
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1:07PM on 09/01/2009

At least the ranking system makes sense

I smell Bay's first Oscar....
I smell Bay's first Oscar....
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1:10PM on 09/01/2009
.. or surprisingly FIRST Razzie, despite having been nominated before.
.. or surprisingly FIRST Razzie, despite having been nominated before.
12:50PM on 09/01/2009
I agree that there hasn't been a lot of films yet this year to compete for a nomination except as you mentioned Basterds and Up. I also saw Taking Woodstock yesterday which I quite enjoyed. I guess if Shutter Island hadn't been moved until next year, that could have been up there and there's still a lot of films during the coming months and especially come awards season:

- An Education
- The Road
- Where the Wild Things Are
- Precious
- Nine (the musical not animation, AMPAS loves them
I agree that there hasn't been a lot of films yet this year to compete for a nomination except as you mentioned Basterds and Up. I also saw Taking Woodstock yesterday which I quite enjoyed. I guess if Shutter Island hadn't been moved until next year, that could have been up there and there's still a lot of films during the coming months and especially come awards season:

- An Education
- The Road
- Where the Wild Things Are
- Precious
- Nine (the musical not animation, AMPAS loves them musicals)
- Brothers
- Invictus
- The Lovely Bones
- The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus
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12:27PM on 09/01/2009
Moon.

There really hasn't been anything else that's noteworthy this year.
Moon.

There really hasn't been anything else that's noteworthy this year.
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2:01PM on 09/01/2009
seriously, if you found time and the theater playing that movie, how have you not been able to find something else noteworthy? The Hurt Locker is definitely NOTE worthy.
seriously, if you found time and the theater playing that movie, how have you not been able to find something else noteworthy? The Hurt Locker is definitely NOTE worthy.
12:13PM on 09/01/2009
As entertaining as D9 was, I dont think it has any chance of being nominated, unless the rest of the year is extremely poor.

Maybe smaller movies might get the chance to be nominated now. The Hurt Locker is definately on the list, Id like if (500) Days of Summer made it too.

Potential contender not yet released:
The Informant
A Serious Man
Where the Wild Things Are
The Road
Lovely Bones
Nine
Brothers
Invictus

... and smaller and/or foreign films that have yet to have an
As entertaining as D9 was, I dont think it has any chance of being nominated, unless the rest of the year is extremely poor.

Maybe smaller movies might get the chance to be nominated now. The Hurt Locker is definately on the list, Id like if (500) Days of Summer made it too.

Potential contender not yet released:
The Informant
A Serious Man
Where the Wild Things Are
The Road
Lovely Bones
Nine
Brothers
Invictus

... and smaller and/or foreign films that have yet to have an official release date.
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11:52AM on 09/01/2009
D9
D9
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11:47AM on 09/01/2009
'The Hurt Locker' will definitely be there.
'The Hurt Locker' will definitely be there.
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10:56AM on 09/01/2009

my vote

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