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05.18.2015

It still feels a little surreal that the duo behind THE LEGO MOVIE and 21 JUMP STREET are playing in a big part in bringing not only one, but two major superheroes to the big screen. Both Phil Lord and Chris Miller are developing the story for THE FLASH for Warner Bros. and DC, as well as writing and producing an animated Spider-Man film for Sony. Busy guys.

Phil Lord recently appeared on a podcast known as Hippojuice where he spoke about where he and Miller are at with the development of THE FLASH:

We’re trying to break a story. It’s interesting, because there’s a really popular TV show out there, and we’re trying to carve out space for the movie that’s apart from that. I think we’re doing alright. … I believe [our Flash] is going to be Barry Allen. … It’s going to be it’s own [thing, apart from the TV show] — we’re more trying to stick with the cinematic universe… it really is its own thing, and kind of a stand-alone movie. We’re just trying to think of the best story. I think you guys will like it, it’s kind of a different take on superhero stuff.

CW's The Flash is set to wrap up its first season and has been enjoying great popularity, something which may make it slightly more difficult for another version of the character to take off; however THE FLASH isn't scheduled to be released until 2018, by which time it's possible that audiences may be hungry for a new take on the character.

Phil Lord then briefly touched on the animated Spider-Man film that he and Chris Miller are working on in addition to THE FLASH:

We’re sort of juggling superheroes with the color red in them, that’s all we do. [laughter] We’re trying not to confuse their powers or anything, but it does get tricky. But it’s the same thing, is there a way to do one of these movies in a new way? That’s the exciting thing about it being animated, is it opens up a lot of different possibilities.

 

Chris and I like to carve out spaces where people will let us do what we want. So much of our careers are like “oh, no one will bother us while we try to make a 21 Jump Street movie, because it’s such a crazy idea, no one’s going to know what to do with it.” So we’re doing these things kind of like that. They’re part of these huge franchises, but kind of are off a little bit to the side, and that gives us a lot of creative freedom, and that’s the thing we love. Hopefully we won’t waste that!

When you hire Phil Lord and Chris Miller it's because you want their unique creativity (or their stash of LEGO's), so it's refreshing to hear that their creative freedom will be unencumbered despite working on two huge superhero franchises. Neither film has the duo attached to direct but I'd imagine that each studio will try to get Miller and Lord to take the helm of their respective pictures. Phil Lord and Chris Miller are also developing their 21 JUMP STREET/MEN IN BLACK crossover (yes, that's really happening) so it's possible they may be too busy to take out their director's chairs anytime soon.

The animated Spider-Man film is scheduled for a July 20, 2018 release with THE FLASH set to premiere on March 23, 2018.

Source: Hippojuice

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10:27PM on 05/19/2015
Soloist made a good point.

They have already cast Ezra Miller and that means that he will probably appear in a movie before the Flash movie comes out which means that the Flash movie won't be an origin story. This makes me wonder if they are going to use the Flash TV show as a kind of "vague history" the way Superman Returns used the Christopher Reeves movies as a vague history. The same argument could be made for the Supergirl TV series: obviously Superman exists in the TV universe so
Soloist made a good point.

They have already cast Ezra Miller and that means that he will probably appear in a movie before the Flash movie comes out which means that the Flash movie won't be an origin story. This makes me wonder if they are going to use the Flash TV show as a kind of "vague history" the way Superman Returns used the Christopher Reeves movies as a vague history. The same argument could be made for the Supergirl TV series: obviously Superman exists in the TV universe so presumably people are supposed to use the movies as a reference for who Superman is. I am a bit confused as to whether or not Arrow, Canary, etc. exist at all in the movie universe and whether or not Batman, Wonderwoman, etc. exist in the TV universe.
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9:51PM on 05/19/2015
"I believe [our Flash] is going to be Barry Allen."

So they are writing the script with the main character being Barry Allen. I can see how that would be a problem: a lot of people around the world are watching The Flash TV show. It is VERY popular here in Taiwan: people are watching The Flash and Agents of SHIELD on their cellphones; they actually have apps that can stream movies and TV shows with Chinese subtitles and they are usually available within 24 hours after the movie or TV show
"I believe [our Flash] is going to be Barry Allen."

So they are writing the script with the main character being Barry Allen. I can see how that would be a problem: a lot of people around the world are watching The Flash TV show. It is VERY popular here in Taiwan: people are watching The Flash and Agents of SHIELD on their cellphones; they actually have apps that can stream movies and TV shows with Chinese subtitles and they are usually available within 24 hours after the movie or TV show has come out. But, anyway, it is going to be very confusing to not only Americans but people around the world. They need to distance the movie from the TV show because the two actors do not look alike. (Well, most people won't think they look alike: my wife seems to think all white people look alike.)
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9:08PM on 05/19/2015

Why not the Flash we already have?

I don't understand why a new Flash needs to be found. I just saw the season finale of The Flash and the actor that plays him is great, the show is great, all of it gels perfectly, why look elsewhere, that guy is The Flash. Use him DC, don't fuck this up and have multiple actors, multiple stories, and confuse this whole comic universe. Take a page out of Marvel's book and give the fans and customers what they want, a cohesive story line that can be followed and enjoyed.
I don't understand why a new Flash needs to be found. I just saw the season finale of The Flash and the actor that plays him is great, the show is great, all of it gels perfectly, why look elsewhere, that guy is The Flash. Use him DC, don't fuck this up and have multiple actors, multiple stories, and confuse this whole comic universe. Take a page out of Marvel's book and give the fans and customers what they want, a cohesive story line that can be followed and enjoyed.
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12:01PM on 05/19/2015
The CW's Flash has blown me out of the water. I didn't have any hope for it in the beginning but it's turned out to be...in my opinion...the finest representation of what makes superhero comics great, put to film. I think it would be a real missed opportunity to miss out on something tried and true, for a film that could potentially bomb. I mean at the moment you have a great series that's totally workload on so many levels, What's wrong with taking the safe road here and using a formula that's
The CW's Flash has blown me out of the water. I didn't have any hope for it in the beginning but it's turned out to be...in my opinion...the finest representation of what makes superhero comics great, put to film. I think it would be a real missed opportunity to miss out on something tried and true, for a film that could potentially bomb. I mean at the moment you have a great series that's totally workload on so many levels, What's wrong with taking the safe road here and using a formula that's already in place and obviously working.
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12:04PM on 05/19/2015
I wouldn't be opposed to a Wally West film though. That plays into the CWs Flash from a futuristic angle.
I wouldn't be opposed to a Wally West film though. That plays into the CWs Flash from a futuristic angle.
10:41AM on 05/19/2015
Agree with Stevemoto. I think its a bit of a waste of a fantastic opportunity by doing something completely separate from the TV series. Both Amell and Gustin are owning their roles as Arrow and Flash, respectively. Tom Welling had the look, but not really the chops to carry on to the big screen. I absolutely think both these guys, however, can transition over just fine. Oh well, not to be. But, I do think they are unnecessarily fracturing their DC Universe. Personally think that Marvel's
Agree with Stevemoto. I think its a bit of a waste of a fantastic opportunity by doing something completely separate from the TV series. Both Amell and Gustin are owning their roles as Arrow and Flash, respectively. Tom Welling had the look, but not really the chops to carry on to the big screen. I absolutely think both these guys, however, can transition over just fine. Oh well, not to be. But, I do think they are unnecessarily fracturing their DC Universe. Personally think that Marvel's gameplan is smarter thus far. Time will tell
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8:40AM on 05/19/2015
The TV series has been way better than I expected and fared a bit better with its first season than Arrow did in its third. If DC want to keep their movies and tv shows separate, that's fine. DC Comics are all about the ever shifting multiverse anyway, so these things can coexist as different entities and still collide with eachother further down the line if the mood takes them.
The TV series has been way better than I expected and fared a bit better with its first season than Arrow did in its third. If DC want to keep their movies and tv shows separate, that's fine. DC Comics are all about the ever shifting multiverse anyway, so these things can coexist as different entities and still collide with eachother further down the line if the mood takes them.
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12:13AM on 05/19/2015
It's stupid if they have two different actors playing Barry, the movie should be Wally West. Now you are going to have people comparing the Barry Allen from tv and movie.
It's stupid if they have two different actors playing Barry, the movie should be Wally West. Now you are going to have people comparing the Barry Allen from tv and movie.
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2:03AM on 05/19/2015
just like when they compared superman returns to smallville? everyone got over it.
just like when they compared superman returns to smallville? everyone got over it.
10:03AM on 05/19/2015
Ya cause Superman Returns is a classic.
Ya cause Superman Returns is a classic.
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11:36PM on 05/18/2015

yeah right...

Flash is arguably the 4th most recognizable JLA member after the Trinity. i wonder how much creative freedom they get on that one. Edgar Wright is texting these guys right now. it's a trap!
Flash is arguably the 4th most recognizable JLA member after the Trinity. i wonder how much creative freedom they get on that one. Edgar Wright is texting these guys right now. it's a trap!
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11:12PM on 05/18/2015
Completely disagree with the soloist on this one. The Flash TV series is phenomenal. Even people who aren't following everything happening with comic book movies have heard of of the Flash TV series. Hell my mother even watches it. Its got broad appeal and likeable characters. I do not see the movie doing well because there will be 4 years worth of the CW Flash universe getting ingrained in people's minds. I don't think the movie is going to be able to wipe that thought out of people's heads.
Completely disagree with the soloist on this one. The Flash TV series is phenomenal. Even people who aren't following everything happening with comic book movies have heard of of the Flash TV series. Hell my mother even watches it. Its got broad appeal and likeable characters. I do not see the movie doing well because there will be 4 years worth of the CW Flash universe getting ingrained in people's minds. I don't think the movie is going to be able to wipe that thought out of people's heads. Not to mention I detest Ezra Miller and he is the worst choice in the world for Barry Allen. The movie might make some money but I predict it will make the least of any of the DCCU films that have been announced. I hope it tanks honestly.
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11:28PM on 05/18/2015
What I meant by my post was that the show can only do so much in terms of budget, special effects, storylines, etc.

At least with the film, DC has a better and more of a chance to expand on the character more at a higher medium then the show ever could and/or can.
What I meant by my post was that the show can only do so much in terms of budget, special effects, storylines, etc.

At least with the film, DC has a better and more of a chance to expand on the character more at a higher medium then the show ever could and/or can.
2:57AM on 05/19/2015
But then remember that DC is setting up their Justice League, I'm sure everyone will want to see some what this this flash is all about once they tease him on screen and. I Like the show a lot to
But then remember that DC is setting up their Justice League, I'm sure everyone will want to see some what this this flash is all about once they tease him on screen and. I Like the show a lot to
10:19PM on 05/18/2015
As much as I love the show, I'm expecting this film to blow it out of the water. Especially with the talents of Phil Lord and Chris Miller attached to it, who I hope ultimately end up directing it as well.
As much as I love the show, I'm expecting this film to blow it out of the water. Especially with the talents of Phil Lord and Chris Miller attached to it, who I hope ultimately end up directing it as well.
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12:01AM on 05/19/2015
You're a nice guy, but if you think they can make a movie with Ezra Miller as the star that "blows the TV show out of the water," you're high. I'm just hoping it isn't a trainwreck.
You're a nice guy, but if you think they can make a movie with Ezra Miller as the star that "blows the TV show out of the water," you're high. I'm just hoping it isn't a trainwreck.
12:33AM on 05/19/2015
I just believe that the film can be better since it's a bigger medium and can expand on more ideas that the show really can't.
I just believe that the film can be better since it's a bigger medium and can expand on more ideas that the show really can't.
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