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Producer Avi Arad talks about crossovers with Venom, Spider-Man, and The Avengers

06.11.2012

Producer Avi Arad had a few comments about the upcoming VENOM solo film as well as potential crossover territory for both Venom and Spider-Man, as well as Spider-Man with The Avengers, while speaking at the press junket for the upcoming THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN.  Arad is always very passionate when he speaks about his film and is equally all over the map in terms of articulating his responses, so it goes without saying that some of what he says is open to interpretations.

That's a nice way of me saying I don't know what the hell he's talking about sometimes.

On VENOM as a hero:

“As you know, Venom is defender of the innocent,” Arad said. “The only guy he really, really hates is Peter Parker, Spider-Man. The reason you didn’t see more development on Venom in the comics is because this power that he was given, he knew who Peter was, he knew who Spider-Man was, so go kill him already. We always struggle with storylines and you see the new Venom books. It’s Flash in Iraq. We know that if we put him in a certain position and concentrate on the human, not on the creature, which I thought was a really good beginning in 3.”

On VENOM story details:

"It’s an Eddie Brock story… We want to be as close to the comics as possible. Especially in Eddie Brock’s story. But again, pseudo-sceince is becoming science. All these tidbits about webs, artificial webs, is a huge industry now. Spiderwebs have unique qualities that will be huge for communications, fibers, and so forth. So we have taken the approach that we want to make the huge amazing movie about Eddie."

On Spider-Man crossing over with The Avengers:

“Everything is possible,” Arad said. “If something like that happens, it’s great for Disney, it’s great for Sony. If the right story comes in, we are now working on Venom first. It’s our first out. So our thinking is in the right direction. Avengers to me was an expected success so I never looked at it because Avengers was successful.”  He elaborated, “Team ups can happen once you create the character, establish the CG, otherwise it’s not affordable.”

Producer Matthew Tolmach also spoke about the possibility of the new Spider-Man mixing it up with the new VENOM, saying:

“All things are possible someday,” said Tomach.  "What I’m trying to say to you without giving anything away is hopefully all these worlds will live together in peace someday… look for the worlds to make sense with one another."

With VENOM seemingly in the midst of actually getting made my spider-sense gets a little tingly.  I've always liked the Eddie Brock version of Venom, but only as a villain, not as some kind of hero/anti-hero.  The current version of war vet Flash Thompson attempting to use the Venom symbiote as a weapon for the U.S. Government is a much more interesting concept for that arena in my opinion. 

As for THE AVENGERS crossover potential with Spider-Man, I think it's ripe for exploration and high time that Sony realized it.  I really don't see the downside to merging both franchises as both studios would stand to make a killing. 

What do you guys think?

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Extra Tidbit: The current run of Venom with Flash Thompson has got some really cools twists and story beats. Check it out if you're hungry for a different take on the alien symbiote.
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4:45AM on 06/13/2012
I am sorry but Venom to me is one of the more overrated villains in the Spidey universe, he has no real background other than knowing that Parker is Spider-Man & his so called mission is to destroy him. I don't understand how he became so popular. Even Raimi said he was a boring character & only fanboy pressure put him in part 3. Which is why i have always believed the infamous loser fanboys is the main reason why the last Spidey movie sucked. You pricks asked for too much.
I am sorry but Venom to me is one of the more overrated villains in the Spidey universe, he has no real background other than knowing that Parker is Spider-Man & his so called mission is to destroy him. I don't understand how he became so popular. Even Raimi said he was a boring character & only fanboy pressure put him in part 3. Which is why i have always believed the infamous loser fanboys is the main reason why the last Spidey movie sucked. You pricks asked for too much.
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7:27PM on 06/11/2012
There's a couple reasons why Catwoman and Elektra bombed.
1 - They were awful.
2 - The characters work best in small doses in a larger story, not as solo heroes/anti-heroes

There's a couple reasons why Catwoman and Elektra bombed.
1 - They were awful.
2 - The characters work best in small doses in a larger story, not as solo heroes/anti-heroes

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4:43AM on 06/12/2012
At the risk of angering pretty much everybody, I would add wolverine to that list. He's just too cool a character, and he needs other, less cool characters (Cyclops, I'm looking at you) to play off and make you appreciate him for the total badass that he is. When the x-movies revolve around him as the lead and he has his own solo outings he just doesn't work as well imo.

Case in point - what was the best part of First Class? ...Exactly. Total Badass. Next to no screen time. Always leave the
At the risk of angering pretty much everybody, I would add wolverine to that list. He's just too cool a character, and he needs other, less cool characters (Cyclops, I'm looking at you) to play off and make you appreciate him for the total badass that he is. When the x-movies revolve around him as the lead and he has his own solo outings he just doesn't work as well imo.

Case in point - what was the best part of First Class? ...Exactly. Total Badass. Next to no screen time. Always leave the audience wanting more.
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3:55PM on 06/11/2012

OK a few things....

First, a big thumbs up for sticking with Eddie for the movie. Eddie is the only Venom, i don't care what ppl say/think on that matter. Now i hope the bit where he says they want to stick the the comics is his actual story (a disgraced news writer who blames Spider Man for his down fall) and not toss in some of the other origin crap they came up with that limited series that came out a few years ago.

Second it is not hard to write Venom when he is used properly. its when you get into trying
First, a big thumbs up for sticking with Eddie for the movie. Eddie is the only Venom, i don't care what ppl say/think on that matter. Now i hope the bit where he says they want to stick the the comics is his actual story (a disgraced news writer who blames Spider Man for his down fall) and not toss in some of the other origin crap they came up with that limited series that came out a few years ago.

Second it is not hard to write Venom when he is used properly. its when you get into trying to make these characters too deep (im looking at you Sandman). Some baddies are only just that, badies. Stop trying to have all this tragic crap tie in with the characters to make then "more human", they are Super Villians, some of them are just powerful ass holes.

Lastly while a team up movie sounds cool its really not necessary. The only stories that can do it well are epic tales like Infinity Gauntlet or Inferno and those are just to crazy to film. What i would like though is to have them just acknowledge the other hero's in NYC whether its a direct mention or something like a news report playing in the back ground of a scene. I mean lets be honest, the idea that the craziness that went down in Avengers wouldn't have attracted at least 1 of the many other heroes in NYC is insane!
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2:37PM on 06/11/2012
As much as I love Venom as the anti-Spidey type villain, I don't really care for a VENOM solo movie, atleast until I see a great trailer or something. I'm still a bit indifferent about the new Spider-Man as well, but have to say, right now I'm MUCH MORE excited about a crossover with Avengers! I don't know if there's anything concrete about what Arad said about it or if it won't even happen till Phase 3 of Avengers, but this proves there's is a gleamer of hope, and thats enough for me
As much as I love Venom as the anti-Spidey type villain, I don't really care for a VENOM solo movie, atleast until I see a great trailer or something. I'm still a bit indifferent about the new Spider-Man as well, but have to say, right now I'm MUCH MORE excited about a crossover with Avengers! I don't know if there's anything concrete about what Arad said about it or if it won't even happen till Phase 3 of Avengers, but this proves there's is a gleamer of hope, and thats enough for me now.

Now if only there's another news bit about Jackman's Wolverine crossing over with Avengers, and my day would be perfect!
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2:05PM on 06/11/2012
Venom as a hero is crap. He was designed as a terrifying villian for Spidey and thats how he was written. They bastardized him when he became so damn popular.

As for Spidey, I truly hope this movie delivers like I think it will so people here will finally stfu and quit hating on it.
Venom as a hero is crap. He was designed as a terrifying villian for Spidey and thats how he was written. They bastardized him when he became so damn popular.

As for Spidey, I truly hope this movie delivers like I think it will so people here will finally stfu and quit hating on it.
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12:21PM on 06/11/2012
What Arad said makes sense though. Take Spider-Man for example, everybody wants to jump on The Avengers' Success bandwagon, so why not lend their property (i.e. Spider-Man) in Marvel-made movie? Possibly instead of just Marvel logo, Sony logo would need to be there as well. Win-win situation for both us moviegoers and the studios. My only concern is how they're going to handle the distribution should this be real.
What Arad said makes sense though. Take Spider-Man for example, everybody wants to jump on The Avengers' Success bandwagon, so why not lend their property (i.e. Spider-Man) in Marvel-made movie? Possibly instead of just Marvel logo, Sony logo would need to be there as well. Win-win situation for both us moviegoers and the studios. My only concern is how they're going to handle the distribution should this be real.
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11:57AM on 06/11/2012

Enough!

Venom as an anti hero is interesting, but we KNOW how poorly Sony will handle it. Amazing Spider-Man will be as lame as a super hero movie can be. It won't do anything new or interesting. We have already seen 90% of it in trailers.

I actually don't want any Spiderman in my Avengers, unless they reboot him again and actually follow a specific outline for him. Right now he is a mashup of 4 different generations of comics. He is a mess, and it won't translate well on film.

Avengers have the
Venom as an anti hero is interesting, but we KNOW how poorly Sony will handle it. Amazing Spider-Man will be as lame as a super hero movie can be. It won't do anything new or interesting. We have already seen 90% of it in trailers.

I actually don't want any Spiderman in my Avengers, unless they reboot him again and actually follow a specific outline for him. Right now he is a mashup of 4 different generations of comics. He is a mess, and it won't translate well on film.

Avengers have the hulk as their brooding hero, adding this new emo parker would only be the downfall of the Avengers movie franchise.
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12:14PM on 06/11/2012
You seem to know a lot about Amazing Spiderman before even seeing it. I also don't see how the new Peter Parker looks emo in this movie.
You seem to know a lot about Amazing Spiderman before even seeing it. I also don't see how the new Peter Parker looks emo in this movie.
11:38AM on 06/11/2012

Grand aspirations, but here's how this plays out:

amazing spider-man is a "disappointing success"

venom comes out and flops hard

the future of the new spider-man franchise just ends up ignoring Venom

some people (myself included) r bummed.
amazing spider-man is a "disappointing success"

venom comes out and flops hard

the future of the new spider-man franchise just ends up ignoring Venom

some people (myself included) r bummed.
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