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Quentin Tarantino elaborates on that Lone Ranger choice; Says Batman is not interesting

Oct. 10, 2013by: Niki Stephens

The other day, Quentin Tarantino offered up his Top Ten of 2013- So Far. Many seemed rather perplexed by a certain inclusion. Of all the movies in 2013, why did THE LONE RANGER get a nod from Tarantino? Maybe because not everyone thought it was a total and complete turd.

The interview comes from French weekly paper, Les Inrocks. IndieWire did their best to translate the print version since the online one hasn't hit yet. Here's what Tarantino offered up:

"The first forty-five minutes are excellent" then conceded "...the next forty-five minutes are a little soporific. It was a bad idea to split the bad guys in two groups; it takes hours to explain and nobody cares. Then comes the train sceneincredible! When I saw it, I kept thinking, 'What, thats the film that everybody says is crap? Seriously?'"

Tarantino continued talking about some of the issues that he had with Tonto, and perhaps these are the same issues that other viewers had:

"That being said, I still have a little problem with the film. I like Tontos backstorythe idea that his tribe got slaughtered because of him; thats a real comic-book thing. But the slaughter of the tribe, by gunfire, from the cavalry, it left a bitter taste in my mouth," he said, continuing: "The Indians have really been victims of a genocide. So slaughtering them again in an entertaining movie, Buster Keaton style That ruined the fun a bit for me. I simply found itugly. Making fun of this, when America really did it, it bothered me...That doesnt stop it from being a good film but they could have done without that."

The interviewer then brings to light the depiction of slavery in DJANGO UNCHAINED, which Tarantino then defends while poking fun at what LONE RANGER tried to do at the wrong time:

"I didnt make 'Lone Ranger'thats two different things. I did an examination of America. I tried to juggle with different things and, frankly, I think I did it better than them. I dont know, lets just say that it was ugly. And violent. And boring. And it happens right in the middle of the films bad part, anyway. [laughs]"

Then towards the end, Tarantino was asked what he thought about Ben Affleck being chosen as Batman, because why not? Everyone including the guy who makes my coffee at Dunkin has been asked that question:

"I have to admit that I don't really have an opinion. Why? Because Batman is not a very interesting character. For any actor. There is simply not much to play. I think Michael Keaton did it the best, and I wish good luck to Ben Affleck. But, you know who would have made a great Batman? Alec Baldwin in the '80s." Alec's brother William was considered for BATMAN FOREVER so close enough.

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11:03PM on 10/10/2013
Woulda been perfect. Maybe for dark knight returns?
Woulda been perfect. Maybe for dark knight returns?
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11:07PM on 10/10/2013

Agree and Disagree

I agree with him about lone ranger. Beginning was good. The climax train sequence was just awesome. The middle was where the film dragged and needed some editing to shorten the film.
Totally disagree about Batman though, who I think is one of the most interesting characters in fiction. Any actor should be pleased to play him, b/c you really have 3 roles. The care-free/playboy persona of Bruce Wayne, the emotionally damaged true bruce wayne, and the detective/batman portion of the character.
I agree with him about lone ranger. Beginning was good. The climax train sequence was just awesome. The middle was where the film dragged and needed some editing to shorten the film.
Totally disagree about Batman though, who I think is one of the most interesting characters in fiction. Any actor should be pleased to play him, b/c you really have 3 roles. The care-free/playboy persona of Bruce Wayne, the emotionally damaged true bruce wayne, and the detective/batman portion of the character.
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11:10PM on 10/10/2013

D:

Making your career out of homage type movies isn't very interesting either.
Making your career out of homage type movies isn't very interesting either.
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3:22AM on 10/12/2013
Dude, you've just gotta realise that whenever anyone says about a filmmaker that he/she "stole" from another movie, that it is beyond playful naivete, it's just downright ignorance. Filmmakers have been "stealing" from other filmmakers since other filmmakers started having original ideas. Sure, Tarantino does it more literal and more often (hell, he comes out with it himself every time and talks about his influences). But saying that he stole this and that from dozens of movies, and solely
Dude, you've just gotta realise that whenever anyone says about a filmmaker that he/she "stole" from another movie, that it is beyond playful naivete, it's just downright ignorance. Filmmakers have been "stealing" from other filmmakers since other filmmakers started having original ideas. Sure, Tarantino does it more literal and more often (hell, he comes out with it himself every time and talks about his influences). But saying that he stole this and that from dozens of movies, and solely because of it was able to make, say, Pulp Fiction? That's straight up fucking bullshit, and you know it. I dare everyone who says anything like that to go write a script that's remotely as masterful by freely being able to "steal" as much as they want from other movies. Good luck.
4:22PM on 10/11/2013
Well he does make his career based off of other people's movies. Jackie Brown aside, every one has had it's idea stolen from one movie or another. I found Django and Basterds good movies, but I would probably never watch them again. Just because they don't have as much punch as his earlier films. As for his opinion on Batman, everyone has there own. Batman's charm is in the villains mostly.
Well he does make his career based off of other people's movies. Jackie Brown aside, every one has had it's idea stolen from one movie or another. I found Django and Basterds good movies, but I would probably never watch them again. Just because they don't have as much punch as his earlier films. As for his opinion on Batman, everyone has there own. Batman's charm is in the villains mostly.
12:25PM on 10/11/2013
Certainly, that's why I am not knocking a well established and succesful director.
Certainly, that's why I am not knocking a well established and succesful director.
9:41AM on 10/11/2013
Well you would know about that too.
Well you would know about that too.
7:10AM on 10/11/2013
Well, it's more interesting than being a jaded little player hater on the internet.
Well, it's more interesting than being a jaded little player hater on the internet.
11:11PM on 10/10/2013

Lol..

Get ready to face the wrath of Batman fans
Get ready to face the wrath of Batman fans
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11:17PM on 10/10/2013
Love QT but totally disagree with him on Batman. I used to grow up and think Spiderman was the best but now Batman is hands down the most interesting superhero out there. A billionaire playboy dressing as a bat to protect a city
Love QT but totally disagree with him on Batman. I used to grow up and think Spiderman was the best but now Batman is hands down the most interesting superhero out there. A billionaire playboy dressing as a bat to protect a city
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4:45AM on 10/11/2013
Both Stark and Wayne are interesting and two completely different personality types. The only thing they have in common is the way they go about making themselves more than average. Wayne is a constantly angry ball of rage who can only express his pain and frustration by taking it out on criminals, a form of extreme therapy. Stark, on the other hand is a legitimate playboy who has struggled with the kind of legacy he is leaving in the world. And within that struggle, he has found what he
Both Stark and Wayne are interesting and two completely different personality types. The only thing they have in common is the way they go about making themselves more than average. Wayne is a constantly angry ball of rage who can only express his pain and frustration by taking it out on criminals, a form of extreme therapy. Stark, on the other hand is a legitimate playboy who has struggled with the kind of legacy he is leaving in the world. And within that struggle, he has found what he believes to be his destiny, but in so doing found a new problem in where he thinks he fits in as a man of peace. Both have struggles, yes, but they are very different struggles, and make them both multi-dimensional and fascinating characters in respective ways. And Iron Man has always been a top Marvel character in much the same way Batman has always been a top DC character.
1:37AM on 10/11/2013
Tony Stark is boooooring. The only reason he has ANY juice these days is because RDJ is a badass. Stark is a complete Wayne clone to the bone. Wayne used to be portrayed as a playboy weapons maker, Marvel pulled the copycat and DC got out of the biz and went a different "better" direction making him even darker. Tony Stark is pretty crappy, hiding in a missile and laser firing flying tank. BAH. I would much rather have a guy who gets his hands dirty in the gutter myself, someone who is
Tony Stark is boooooring. The only reason he has ANY juice these days is because RDJ is a badass. Stark is a complete Wayne clone to the bone. Wayne used to be portrayed as a playboy weapons maker, Marvel pulled the copycat and DC got out of the biz and went a different "better" direction making him even darker. Tony Stark is pretty crappy, hiding in a missile and laser firing flying tank. BAH. I would much rather have a guy who gets his hands dirty in the gutter myself, someone who is wounded and has a dark spot in his heart, has walls up and breaks bones to get the job done. Forget Stark, he is nothing without RDJ and 5 years after RDJ leaves the roll will be nothing again.
1:03AM on 10/11/2013
you could argue that Batman/Bruce Wayne is one dimensional. he's not a billionaire playboy. it's all an act. a cover to hide his identity as Batman. now if a part of him loved being a playboy (i.e. Tony Stark...)
you could argue that Batman/Bruce Wayne is one dimensional. he's not a billionaire playboy. it's all an act. a cover to hide his identity as Batman. now if a part of him loved being a playboy (i.e. Tony Stark...)
11:53PM on 10/10/2013
Whoa. Alec Baldwin in the 80s would have been an awesome Batman. Damn Tarantino knows how to cast. Young Baldwin had the looks, talent, and the voice. I always thought the best thing about The Shadow was Baldwin's awesome voice work. Damn, Tarantino, where were you back then? Oh yeah, making cinema history.
Whoa. Alec Baldwin in the 80s would have been an awesome Batman. Damn Tarantino knows how to cast. Young Baldwin had the looks, talent, and the voice. I always thought the best thing about The Shadow was Baldwin's awesome voice work. Damn, Tarantino, where were you back then? Oh yeah, making cinema history.
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12:19AM on 10/11/2013
His first movie was in 1992 and his masterpiece, Pulp Fiction, was 1994. He really wasn't doing much in the 80s, only a few (2) short films, which weren't great. So, he wasn't actually making history when Alec Baldwin would have been perfect casting (though, if Tim Burton had thought of it, he would have had the perfect connection, since he worked with Baldwin on Beetle Juice.)
His first movie was in 1992 and his masterpiece, Pulp Fiction, was 1994. He really wasn't doing much in the 80s, only a few (2) short films, which weren't great. So, he wasn't actually making history when Alec Baldwin would have been perfect casting (though, if Tim Burton had thought of it, he would have had the perfect connection, since he worked with Baldwin on Beetle Juice.)
12:28AM on 10/11/2013
Completely unrelated, but fuck that Dockers banner at the top.
Completely unrelated, but fuck that Dockers banner at the top.
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10:25AM on 10/11/2013
Way to take a joke literally...I'm in the US and don't see it but I still laughed cuz I get what he's saying...
Way to take a joke literally...I'm in the US and don't see it but I still laughed cuz I get what he's saying...
8:26AM on 10/11/2013
I'll explain it slowly so that a retard like BojacRedleif can understand: people around the world are seeing different ads. A lot of people working for Joblo are in Canada. They may get different ads. So not only do they not decide what ads get run by they may not have the slightest clue what you are talking about.
I'll explain it slowly so that a retard like BojacRedleif can understand: people around the world are seeing different ads. A lot of people working for Joblo are in Canada. They may get different ads. So not only do they not decide what ads get run by they may not have the slightest clue what you are talking about.
4:26AM on 10/11/2013
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Your point?
Fuck that ad.
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Your point?
Fuck that ad.
12:51AM on 10/11/2013
Peole in different regions get different ads so the world outside the U.S. literally has no idea what you are talking about. Joblo obviously does not choose what ads go up top.
Peole in different regions get different ads so the world outside the U.S. literally has no idea what you are talking about. Joblo obviously does not choose what ads go up top.
12:30AM on 10/11/2013
Alec Baldwin really would have made a great Batman in Tim Burton's version, but am more than happy that we got Keaton instead and I also think it's great that Tarantino considers Keaton as the best Batman.

I really can't disagree with anything he says about Lone Ranger since I enjoyed that film too and had the same problem that he did. It had a really great beginning and ending, but just a sub par middle.
Alec Baldwin really would have made a great Batman in Tim Burton's version, but am more than happy that we got Keaton instead and I also think it's great that Tarantino considers Keaton as the best Batman.

I really can't disagree with anything he says about Lone Ranger since I enjoyed that film too and had the same problem that he did. It had a really great beginning and ending, but just a sub par middle.
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12:55AM on 10/11/2013
Then it's just like Iron Man 2.

I also caught John Carter on TV for the first time yesterday. I wish they had cut back on the CGI, Green Lantern and John Carter were the last straw and nail in the coffin for films with a lot of CGI. The Star Wars prequels and Avatar did well but people are tired of seeing CGI. I think that's what Mark Wahlberg said too about the Lone Ranger. I'm worried about the Avatar sequels.
Then it's just like Iron Man 2.

I also caught John Carter on TV for the first time yesterday. I wish they had cut back on the CGI, Green Lantern and John Carter were the last straw and nail in the coffin for films with a lot of CGI. The Star Wars prequels and Avatar did well but people are tired of seeing CGI. I think that's what Mark Wahlberg said too about the Lone Ranger. I'm worried about the Avatar sequels.
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12:47AM on 10/11/2013

So if I'm getting this right...

Lone Ranger is one of the top 10 movies of the year and that Batman is not interesting? I won't be surprised if he says tomorrow that 'Steel' is a very interesting and complex comic book character and was a excellent movie as well. Keep it up!
Lone Ranger is one of the top 10 movies of the year and that Batman is not interesting? I won't be surprised if he says tomorrow that 'Steel' is a very interesting and complex comic book character and was a excellent movie as well. Keep it up!
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12:47AM on 10/11/2013

Typical Supes fan

Glad somebody else liked The Lone Ranger. Can't believe he finds Batman not interesting....he's better character than Superman.
Glad somebody else liked The Lone Ranger. Can't believe he finds Batman not interesting....he's better character than Superman.
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1:48AM on 10/11/2013

Thats a relief

Thank god QT doesn't enjoy Batman. That means he won't be ripping him off anytime soon. Woohoo!!!
Thank god QT doesn't enjoy Batman. That means he won't be ripping him off anytime soon. Woohoo!!!
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1:51AM on 10/11/2013
I'm not sure that Tarantino really understands DC characters. Now, this isn't a knock on him and he certainly is talented, but look at the speech about Clark Kent being the result of Superman's spite of humanity in Kill Bill: completely missing the point of the character. It's true that Batman's rogues are always cooler than he is, but there is a lot to be mined from the character. What makes someone do what he does? How does Bruce Wayne balance such a prominent position in high society with
I'm not sure that Tarantino really understands DC characters. Now, this isn't a knock on him and he certainly is talented, but look at the speech about Clark Kent being the result of Superman's spite of humanity in Kill Bill: completely missing the point of the character. It's true that Batman's rogues are always cooler than he is, but there is a lot to be mined from the character. What makes someone do what he does? How does Bruce Wayne balance such a prominent position in high society with covert vigilante work? How does his character affect those around him - be it allies like Commissioner Gordon, Dick Grayson, Tim Drake and so on and characters like Alfred and Leslie Thompkins who have served as guardians and mentors to him since he was little? It's been said that both Bruce Wayne and Batman are facades, the real person only surfaces when he's the Batcave talking to Alfred, about to put on the mask or having just removed it.

I think The Lone Ranger was okay. It's something like a 5.5 out of 10 for me. There are some cool sequences, but the whole point of the movie seems to be to make a fool out of its title character and serve as a vanity project for Johnny Depp. He had a lot of fun with the Tonto character yes, but making him overly goofy in addition to being wry and clever doesn't exactly "make up" for all the years Tonto has been depicted as subservient to Reid. I think Tarantino has a very valid point about the depiction of genocide. The Lone Ranger has serious tone issues; between that and the villain carving out a human heart and eating it, it's really jarring contrasted with the slapstick hijinks Armie Hammer has to do.
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2:03AM on 10/11/2013

Agree on Lone Ranger, Disagree Completely On Batman.

I saw The Lone Ranger and enjoyed it. It's really not as bad as people make it out to be and overall it's a very entertaining film. Great acting, too. Now, saying Batman isn't interesting is another way of saying "I don't understand the character". Batman is by far one of the most complex characters ever created. He's a beast on that's driven by the insatiable need to protect his city - which to him means protecting the childhood he never had. Bruce Wayne died with his parents. The kid grew up
I saw The Lone Ranger and enjoyed it. It's really not as bad as people make it out to be and overall it's a very entertaining film. Great acting, too. Now, saying Batman isn't interesting is another way of saying "I don't understand the character". Batman is by far one of the most complex characters ever created. He's a beast on that's driven by the insatiable need to protect his city - which to him means protecting the childhood he never had. Bruce Wayne died with his parents. The kid grew up to be a this dark persona, using his former self as a disguise. If that's not interesting, I don't know what is. Not to mention, a lot of QT's characters are influenced by Batman..and he may not even know it!

Do agree on Baldwin though. That voice!
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4:25AM on 10/11/2013

The train chase is legitimately amazing.

The problem is almost everything in the nearly THREE HOURS before the train chase.
But I am just going to assume that QT has no interest in Batman because he doesn't kill people. Him loving Kick Ass is good evidence to that, characters with an unbreakable moral code don't interest him. Which is fair. But I bet Kevin Smith is just reading this story and going "tha' fuck Quentin?"
The problem is almost everything in the nearly THREE HOURS before the train chase.
But I am just going to assume that QT has no interest in Batman because he doesn't kill people. Him loving Kick Ass is good evidence to that, characters with an unbreakable moral code don't interest him. Which is fair. But I bet Kevin Smith is just reading this story and going "tha' fuck Quentin?"
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4:38AM on 10/11/2013
Have not seen The Lone Ranger, and frankly have no interest. I'm sure it's moderately entertaining in a Pirates-esque way. But Batman boring? Really? I can forgive Tarantino for not being familiar with the character, but he's hardly boring. Of all the comic book heroes, he's legitimately one of the most interesting. I like Tarantino, but sometimes he comes off as really arrogant and full of himself. I do gotta agree about Django though, He handled that subject matter extremely well.
Have not seen The Lone Ranger, and frankly have no interest. I'm sure it's moderately entertaining in a Pirates-esque way. But Batman boring? Really? I can forgive Tarantino for not being familiar with the character, but he's hardly boring. Of all the comic book heroes, he's legitimately one of the most interesting. I like Tarantino, but sometimes he comes off as really arrogant and full of himself. I do gotta agree about Django though, He handled that subject matter extremely well.
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4:52AM on 10/11/2013

Wow...

First off, while I agree with him that the climatic train sequence in the Lone Ranger was awesome, that was it. The rest of the movie was long, overdone, boring, and jarring the way the tone constantly shifted. No, the first 45 minutes were NOT good.

Second, anyone who says that Batman isn't interesting (especially for an actor), doesn't get him and probably hasn't spent much time reading anything about Batman, so therefore his opinion really could be about as useful as a pile of shit.
First off, while I agree with him that the climatic train sequence in the Lone Ranger was awesome, that was it. The rest of the movie was long, overdone, boring, and jarring the way the tone constantly shifted. No, the first 45 minutes were NOT good.

Second, anyone who says that Batman isn't interesting (especially for an actor), doesn't get him and probably hasn't spent much time reading anything about Batman, so therefore his opinion really could be about as useful as a pile of shit.
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4:01PM on 10/11/2013
That's some well thought reasoning.
That's some well thought reasoning.
11:40AM on 10/11/2013
And that's how I view your opinion... your last line... cheers!
And that's how I view your opinion... your last line... cheers!
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5:06AM on 10/11/2013
I enjoyed The Lone Ranger. It's not "Top 10 of the year" material but a total blast. And now having seen it I don't understand the hate it got. Definitely undeserved. But I'm not questioning why it's on Tarantino's list. I'm questioning since it is, if some naysayers of the film will now start to change their minds about it. I'm positive it will get some people that didn't watch it to give it a chance, which is a good thing. I was glad to see Kick-Ass 2 on his list though. That's on my top ten
I enjoyed The Lone Ranger. It's not "Top 10 of the year" material but a total blast. And now having seen it I don't understand the hate it got. Definitely undeserved. But I'm not questioning why it's on Tarantino's list. I'm questioning since it is, if some naysayers of the film will now start to change their minds about it. I'm positive it will get some people that didn't watch it to give it a chance, which is a good thing. I was glad to see Kick-Ass 2 on his list though. That's on my top ten of the year so far, but it might get bumped in the coming months. We'll see.
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8:34AM on 10/11/2013
The recent Before Watchmen series' DC produced were interesting - the Ozymandius origin tale, being based on the same comic archetype that Batman is based on, read a lot like "What If Batman Was Kind of a Jerk?" - you have this wealthy, super intelligent guy who instead of just fighting crime uses his influence to change the world (because it needs to be changed) but is willing to hurt a lot of people along the way to achieve it. Worth a read if you fancy a different take on that type of
The recent Before Watchmen series' DC produced were interesting - the Ozymandius origin tale, being based on the same comic archetype that Batman is based on, read a lot like "What If Batman Was Kind of a Jerk?" - you have this wealthy, super intelligent guy who instead of just fighting crime uses his influence to change the world (because it needs to be changed) but is willing to hurt a lot of people along the way to achieve it. Worth a read if you fancy a different take on that type of character.
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8:44AM on 10/11/2013
Oh, god he said he didn't like Batman....lets crucify him!!! RABBLERABBLERABBLE!
Oh, god he said he didn't like Batman....lets crucify him!!! RABBLERABBLERABBLE!
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8:55AM on 10/11/2013
BatSTUD, why is Tarrantion's Batman input even of importance. Who cares if he doesn't find Batman interesting. It's not like he has a say in it haha.
As for Lone Ranger, someday I will watch it...I just don't care enough at this point
BatSTUD, why is Tarrantion's Batman input even of importance. Who cares if he doesn't find Batman interesting. It's not like he has a say in it haha.
As for Lone Ranger, someday I will watch it...I just don't care enough at this point
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9:09AM on 10/11/2013
Tarantino is a dipshit. His movies are the same story rehashed with different characters in a different setting based on crappy movies he liked as a kid. Really dont understand why every fanboy slobs his knob. RD and PF were great, but those were 20 years ago. Let go of the fact that he fell off his high cloud and has made middling movies since then and seems to have lost a grip on what is good movies.
Tarantino is a dipshit. His movies are the same story rehashed with different characters in a different setting based on crappy movies he liked as a kid. Really dont understand why every fanboy slobs his knob. RD and PF were great, but those were 20 years ago. Let go of the fact that he fell off his high cloud and has made middling movies since then and seems to have lost a grip on what is good movies.
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9:22AM on 10/11/2013
Yes, lets hate on Tarantino because it's trendy.
Yes, lets hate on Tarantino because it's trendy.
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10:15AM on 10/11/2013

I like the guy and his movies

But the Lone Ranger SUCKED BALLS, and to say batman isn't interesting?? Come on now, what drugs is he on
But the Lone Ranger SUCKED BALLS, and to say batman isn't interesting?? Come on now, what drugs is he on
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1:33PM on 10/11/2013
Probably coke or some sort of speed, have you seen how frenzied and fast he speaks, and how sweaty he looks, he is on drugs, trust me!
Probably coke or some sort of speed, have you seen how frenzied and fast he speaks, and how sweaty he looks, he is on drugs, trust me!
10:20AM on 10/11/2013

Unrelated question

Is the picture above Billy or a young Alec?
Is the picture above Billy or a young Alec?
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12:46PM on 10/11/2013
Alec Baldwin.
Alec Baldwin.
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11:38AM on 10/11/2013
The Lone Ranger didn't deserve all the bad press that come to it. Was it cliche'd? Yes. Was it polished and undeserving of being called a western? Most certainly yes. Did I go into it with high expectations? No. Did I laugh? yes. Did I enjoy the adventure? Sure. Would I watch it again? No. Is Tarantino right? You damn right he is. And those who want to hate on him, giv'er. Because he won't let you stop him from making movies.
The Lone Ranger didn't deserve all the bad press that come to it. Was it cliche'd? Yes. Was it polished and undeserving of being called a western? Most certainly yes. Did I go into it with high expectations? No. Did I laugh? yes. Did I enjoy the adventure? Sure. Would I watch it again? No. Is Tarantino right? You damn right he is. And those who want to hate on him, giv'er. Because he won't let you stop him from making movies.
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12:46PM on 10/11/2013

I'm gonna get thumbs down, but I don't care.

A: "Tarantino doesn't have the same exact opinion and tastes as I do!? Now I hate Quentin Tarantino!"
B: I love all of the protests about how complicated Batman is, followed by a concise pigeonholing of his character and motivations in 3 sentences or less.

Look, I love comic books. I looooove them. But DC and Marvel heroes just aren't that 3 dimensional. There's a lot going for these stories, and they represent powerful archetypes. But they aren't overly complicated. By design. You can
A: "Tarantino doesn't have the same exact opinion and tastes as I do!? Now I hate Quentin Tarantino!"
B: I love all of the protests about how complicated Batman is, followed by a concise pigeonholing of his character and motivations in 3 sentences or less.

Look, I love comic books. I looooove them. But DC and Marvel heroes just aren't that 3 dimensional. There's a lot going for these stories, and they represent powerful archetypes. But they aren't overly complicated. By design. You can appreciate something, without it having to possess every positive attribute possible to validate your admiration for it. Just like you can like it, without Tarantino (or anybody else) also liking it to validate your admiration for it.
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12:51PM on 10/11/2013

I guess...he's right.

The Lone Ranger was... bad... worst movie ever, no but it was still far from being very good. I personally think batman is sweet but, in a way he is boring. In my opinion the thing that makes batman entertaining is all of the great villains the batman world has to offer. Honestly think about it was the Dark Knight a great movie because of Batman or because of the Joker? Also Alec would have been as good a Batman as anyone but, he was in the Shadow which I still think is a sweet movie.
The Lone Ranger was... bad... worst movie ever, no but it was still far from being very good. I personally think batman is sweet but, in a way he is boring. In my opinion the thing that makes batman entertaining is all of the great villains the batman world has to offer. Honestly think about it was the Dark Knight a great movie because of Batman or because of the Joker? Also Alec would have been as good a Batman as anyone but, he was in the Shadow which I still think is a sweet movie.
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1:30PM on 10/11/2013

What QT Is Good At, and What He Sucks At

QT is really good at a few things, but he learned these things from Sergio Leone, who did it better. Those few things are: one, writing confrontational scenes of dialogue between two strong characters, sparring dialogue if you will, such as the scene between Walken and Hopper in True Romance, but lately even his dialogue sucks as he can't be objective to it, I mean what the fuck were they going on about in Deathproof? did anyone give a shit? The other thing he is good at is putting cool music
QT is really good at a few things, but he learned these things from Sergio Leone, who did it better. Those few things are: one, writing confrontational scenes of dialogue between two strong characters, sparring dialogue if you will, such as the scene between Walken and Hopper in True Romance, but lately even his dialogue sucks as he can't be objective to it, I mean what the fuck were they going on about in Deathproof? did anyone give a shit? The other thing he is good at is putting cool music to cool scenes. Besides that, his camera work sucks, for watching all those Sergio Leone movies, the guy has no skill for setting up a stylistic shot, and his opinions on other movies suck. Plain and simple.
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12:37AM on 10/12/2013
I'd just mention that Sergio Leone's movies are famously sparse in the dialogue department. Once Upon a TIme in the West has some great bits in it, particularly with Jason Robards, but his Dollars trilogy (Tuco being an exception) is all about striking a pose, glaring into the sunrise, and rapid-fire carnage.
I'd just mention that Sergio Leone's movies are famously sparse in the dialogue department. Once Upon a TIme in the West has some great bits in it, particularly with Jason Robards, but his Dollars trilogy (Tuco being an exception) is all about striking a pose, glaring into the sunrise, and rapid-fire carnage.
5:00PM on 10/11/2013
I agree with you about Deathproof. The same things can be said for Kill Bill and IB, but NOT for Django Unchained. This movie is a step up, from all his previous creations, even if he took a lot of influences from other iconic directors. It feels ALIVE. The characters are real, living people, not cardboard puppets that speak weird dialogue. Actually, it's that good, I found myself thinking "He had help with that. Somebody helped with the script, and directing the actors. QT can't do characters
I agree with you about Deathproof. The same things can be said for Kill Bill and IB, but NOT for Django Unchained. This movie is a step up, from all his previous creations, even if he took a lot of influences from other iconic directors. It feels ALIVE. The characters are real, living people, not cardboard puppets that speak weird dialogue. Actually, it's that good, I found myself thinking "He had help with that. Somebody helped with the script, and directing the actors. QT can't do characters that feel like real people."
5:00PM on 10/11/2013
I agree with you about Deathproof. The same things can be said for Kill Bill and IB, but NOT for Django Unchained. This movie is a step up, from all his previous creations, even if he took a lot of influences from other iconic directors. It feels ALIVE. The characters are real, living people, not cardboard puppets that speak weird dialogue. Actually, it's that good, I found myself thinking "He had help with that. Somebody helped with the script, and directing the actors. QT can't do characters
I agree with you about Deathproof. The same things can be said for Kill Bill and IB, but NOT for Django Unchained. This movie is a step up, from all his previous creations, even if he took a lot of influences from other iconic directors. It feels ALIVE. The characters are real, living people, not cardboard puppets that speak weird dialogue. Actually, it's that good, I found myself thinking "He had help with that. Somebody helped with the script, and directing the actors. QT can't do characters that feel like real people."
4:16PM on 10/11/2013
Death Proof was terrible.
Death Proof was terrible.
2:15PM on 10/11/2013
I specifically watched The Lone Ranger the other night because if his recent review and he's actually pretty spot on. It wasn't THAT bad and some sequences are pretty damn good. I checked imdb and there's a whole lot of people on there that liked it and disagree with the critics. People just love to bash things, it's insane. They'd rather jump on the bash wagon rather than actually give the film a chance. It's not perfect at all but def worth checking out.
I specifically watched The Lone Ranger the other night because if his recent review and he's actually pretty spot on. It wasn't THAT bad and some sequences are pretty damn good. I checked imdb and there's a whole lot of people on there that liked it and disagree with the critics. People just love to bash things, it's insane. They'd rather jump on the bash wagon rather than actually give the film a chance. It's not perfect at all but def worth checking out.
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3:15PM on 10/11/2013
I watched the Lone Ranger after reading all the bad reviews. I really didn't get all the criticism, I thought it was a genuinely interesting take on the character. Granted, I never watched the show so don't have that to compare it to, but if you're judging the movie on it's comparison to a 1950's TV show then you're just setting yourself up for disappointment. The train sequence at the end was amazing, and I still stand by previous comments that it was one of the best action movies to come
I watched the Lone Ranger after reading all the bad reviews. I really didn't get all the criticism, I thought it was a genuinely interesting take on the character. Granted, I never watched the show so don't have that to compare it to, but if you're judging the movie on it's comparison to a 1950's TV show then you're just setting yourself up for disappointment. The train sequence at the end was amazing, and I still stand by previous comments that it was one of the best action movies to come out this summer.

That being said, I thought Tarantino kind of pulled an Oliver Stone in his judgment of the movie's treatment of Tonto. I thought the backstory to Tonto was really cool and definitely provided a great layer to the relationship between Lone Ranger and Tonto. But I don't get how the tribe being taken down by gunfire was misrepresenting America's treatment of Native People's? In the same sentence he acknowledges that America slaughtered these tribes so how were they wrong in there representation? Also, how was Tarantino's overly exaggerated representation of slavery any better than Lone Rangers over exaggeration of the Native people being slaughtered? Just don't think it's a fair judgment - at least given the way he worded it.
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3:55PM on 10/11/2013
He criticizes Lone Ranger for depicting the slaughter of Native Americans in a Buster Keaton-like style, yet Django Unchained is perhaps even more over the top with its violence. I remember one scene in Unchained where Foxx shoots a woman and she flies through the air like 10 or 15 feet for no reason other than comedic value. I'll give Tarantino props for not copping out on the brutality when the film focused on the treatment of slaves, but as for his opinion of Lone Ranger I have this to say:
He criticizes Lone Ranger for depicting the slaughter of Native Americans in a Buster Keaton-like style, yet Django Unchained is perhaps even more over the top with its violence. I remember one scene in Unchained where Foxx shoots a woman and she flies through the air like 10 or 15 feet for no reason other than comedic value. I'll give Tarantino props for not copping out on the brutality when the film focused on the treatment of slaves, but as for his opinion of Lone Ranger I have this to say: whatever man, it's a stupid family-marketed pg-13 movie. Why would anyone expect it to get gritty and realistic with any of its content?
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4:17PM on 10/11/2013
It's just as trendy to hate on Batman apparently as it is to hate on QT...and for the record, I think a lot of people here who don't agree with QT's views on Batman are not hating on him. I love the guy and his movies, but he's wrong about Batman, it's as simple as that.

Look, if only for one reason, Batman is a fascinating role for any actor. He's essentially three characters in one movie. You have public Bruce Wayne who's a playboy and a bit of eff-up who likes to drink and go on
It's just as trendy to hate on Batman apparently as it is to hate on QT...and for the record, I think a lot of people here who don't agree with QT's views on Batman are not hating on him. I love the guy and his movies, but he's wrong about Batman, it's as simple as that.

Look, if only for one reason, Batman is a fascinating role for any actor. He's essentially three characters in one movie. You have public Bruce Wayne who's a playboy and a bit of eff-up who likes to drink and go on vacations. Then there's Batman, fully suited-up and ready to go. And finally, you have Bat-Bruce who you're most likely to find sulking in some part of Wayne Manor or the Batcave, mask off - essentially one step down from Batman on the streets but the more likely incarnation of who Bruce Wayne really is. Christian Bale understood this and played the part accordingly. Of course, anyone could add reasons to this argument as to why Batman is an interesting character, but I wanted to focus on this one point because QT said he's not interesting for actor's. And that's just not true.
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6:31PM on 10/11/2013
People getting angry over Tarantino not being a Batman fan makes me not want to live in this world anymore.

I personally like Batman, but there has been so much over saturation of this character in the past 25 years that he really isn't that interesting anymore. There is so much more to story & cinema than this. Movie fans seem to have forgotten that and Hollywood seems to have forgotten that.
People getting angry over Tarantino not being a Batman fan makes me not want to live in this world anymore.

I personally like Batman, but there has been so much over saturation of this character in the past 25 years that he really isn't that interesting anymore. There is so much more to story & cinema than this. Movie fans seem to have forgotten that and Hollywood seems to have forgotten that.
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