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Oct. 23, 2008by:

It has been reported in several places that Sam Raimi was the man chosen to make the new Jack Ryan movie, but it appears that his commitment to the SPIDERMAN cause has forced him to drop out. The Ryan character is of course the creation of novellist Tom Clancy, and has been played by Alec Baldwin, Harrison Ford and Ben Affleck in the past. Raimi told MTV:

Im really excited about Spider-Man... Production [on more Spider-Man films] would start probably by March, Im guessing of 2010. I love Tom Clancy, and I hope theyd keep me in mind... But because Im committed to Spider-Man and making that picture, I think its going to knock me out of the running for the Jack Ryan picture.

I'm gonna put this out there and say that SPIDERMAN 4 will open as big at the box office as superhero films generally do, but it won't be anywhere near huge. I'm pretty sure that how much money sequels make is related to how the previous installment made you feel and I don't know about you but I felt slighted by SPIDEY 3. On the other side of that coin of course, if Nolan ever makes BATMAN 3 Warner Bros. will likely be able to build homes for its employees built entirely from cement and the money they made from the movie.
Extra Tidbit: Raimi has five kids.
Source: MTV

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8:43AM on 10/24/2008

Eh, 3 reallllllly sucked though

who knows, but Tobey is like middleaged now and still trying to play a nerdy young college student juggling all sorts of problems and in 3 it just came off as really fucking cheesy. first one was good, second was great, third was an utter failure, so who the hell knows what the next will be.
who knows, but Tobey is like middleaged now and still trying to play a nerdy young college student juggling all sorts of problems and in 3 it just came off as really fucking cheesy. first one was good, second was great, third was an utter failure, so who the hell knows what the next will be.
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9:08PM on 10/23/2008
Damn sam. Thats a bad choice for the career. You have an opportunity to do a classic action movie with multiple set visits in multiple countries with a multitude of first class actors but instead you choose to work with a movie series that lately has been slowly going down the toilet. Bad choise dude.
Damn sam. Thats a bad choice for the career. You have an opportunity to do a classic action movie with multiple set visits in multiple countries with a multitude of first class actors but instead you choose to work with a movie series that lately has been slowly going down the toilet. Bad choise dude.
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5:57PM on 10/23/2008

Getting Old

The whole Batman is the best movie ever is getting old now. Im sure it will be a classic. But you dont like need to keep pointing it out. I mean were all movie nerds, we all know it rocks like hard core. So we dont need a reminder.
The whole Batman is the best movie ever is getting old now. Im sure it will be a classic. But you dont like need to keep pointing it out. I mean were all movie nerds, we all know it rocks like hard core. So we dont need a reminder.
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3:54PM on 10/23/2008
Thank. God.

Give it to Greengrass.
Thank. God.

Give it to Greengrass.
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3:39PM on 10/23/2008

HURAH

Thank God he's out of this picture. I like to see Phil Alden Robinson return or even David Keopp. I also don't know why studios fuzz and delay sequels and allow direct to dvd garbage squirt out into public. Pointless.
Jake Gyllenhaall or Josh Duhamel will make good Ryans.I hope.
Thank God he's out of this picture. I like to see Phil Alden Robinson return or even David Keopp. I also don't know why studios fuzz and delay sequels and allow direct to dvd garbage squirt out into public. Pointless.
Jake Gyllenhaall or Josh Duhamel will make good Ryans.I hope.
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3:34PM on 10/23/2008
Russell Crowe?...
Russell Crowe?...
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3:11PM on 10/23/2008

PuffCity

For once, you and I are actually in total agreement.
For once, you and I are actually in total agreement.
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2:42PM on 10/23/2008
"This will all be a result of Dark Knight of how good Dark Knight was, and the impossibility of Batman 3 to be half as good." - I don't agree. If Nolan does Batman 3, we can have high expectations. He is more than capable to continue the story, handle multiple villains and give Batman dignity that he deserves. He is a kind of director superhero movies need, and TDK proves it.
"This will all be a result of Dark Knight of how good Dark Knight was, and the impossibility of Batman 3 to be half as good." - I don't agree. If Nolan does Batman 3, we can have high expectations. He is more than capable to continue the story, handle multiple villains and give Batman dignity that he deserves. He is a kind of director superhero movies need, and TDK proves it.
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2:19PM on 10/23/2008
shit... that means no Bruce Campbell as Ryan
shit... that means no Bruce Campbell as Ryan
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1:42PM on 10/23/2008
Fuck Sam Raimi, he hasn't made ONE good (not decent) movie. I'm sure most of you here love Evil Dead, but to me, it's garbage. So, I'm happy someone else will direct the next Tom Clancy movie.
Fuck Sam Raimi, he hasn't made ONE good (not decent) movie. I'm sure most of you here love Evil Dead, but to me, it's garbage. So, I'm happy someone else will direct the next Tom Clancy movie.
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1:13PM on 10/23/2008

Oh, enough of this shit and reboot the franchise

If anyone read a Spider-Man comic book, except those from the 60's, you know that Tobey Maguire isn't Peter Parker. This is a character who develops from the nerd persona. Tobey does not. During the whole trilogy.

And of course there are some epic fails such as the dancing scenes, the Green Goblin suit (in both movies) and the anorectic Venom. The list goes on.

Bottom line: Sam Raimi is good at directing horror movies. Not superhero movies. Reboot the fucking franchise.
If anyone read a Spider-Man comic book, except those from the 60's, you know that Tobey Maguire isn't Peter Parker. This is a character who develops from the nerd persona. Tobey does not. During the whole trilogy.

And of course there are some epic fails such as the dancing scenes, the Green Goblin suit (in both movies) and the anorectic Venom. The list goes on.

Bottom line: Sam Raimi is good at directing horror movies. Not superhero movies. Reboot the fucking franchise.
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12:33PM on 10/23/2008

NO MORE SPIDEY

I didnt like any of the spiderman movies because the character will always be a pussy, on the other hand Batman is a much more deep, compelling, and emotionally fucked up, than peter parker
I didnt like any of the spiderman movies because the character will always be a pussy, on the other hand Batman is a much more deep, compelling, and emotionally fucked up, than peter parker
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12:32PM on 10/23/2008

No Comicbook Film Has Ever Survived The 'Superman III Curse'

In 1983 Warner Bros. released its sequel to 'Superman II', which was, at the time, the biggest and most successful superhero movie of all-time. 'Superman III' was widely panned by critics and fans alike for straying too far from the more serious model of the first and second pics. Subsequently, it killed the franchise, with the even poorer-received 'Superman IV' providing the final nail in 1987. The Batman franchise followed this exact same pattern with 'Batman Returns' being the most
In 1983 Warner Bros. released its sequel to 'Superman II', which was, at the time, the biggest and most successful superhero movie of all-time. 'Superman III' was widely panned by critics and fans alike for straying too far from the more serious model of the first and second pics. Subsequently, it killed the franchise, with the even poorer-received 'Superman IV' providing the final nail in 1987. The Batman franchise followed this exact same pattern with 'Batman Returns' being the most successful, only to be followed by the hokey, Burton-departing 'Batman Forever' and then the final nail, 'Batman & Robin' in 1997. Since then, every superhero franchise has fell victim to the 'Superman III Curse'- X-Men 3, Spider-man 3, even such non-comicbook fare as Pirates 3 and Shrek 3 (Shrek the Turd).

Given that Christopher Nolan is such an amazingly creative force of nature, I think he has the ability to prevent the next Bat-film from imploding on itself. However, technically, this will be the seventh live-action Warner Bros. Bat-film, thus the curse really doesn't apply. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for Spidey. Right now, it is plowing along a path that history shows us will result in a dismal 4th installment. The wild card here, is that Sam Raimi is a great director and in returning, may be able to learn from the mistakes made on part 3. Break the curse, Raimi! Break it!
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11:36AM on 10/23/2008
I think spidey 3 was so terrible because the studio tried to please everyone (i.e. letting Raimi use his villans, but forcing Venom into the script too). That won't happen with Batman 3.

In Nolan we Trust.
I think spidey 3 was so terrible because the studio tried to please everyone (i.e. letting Raimi use his villans, but forcing Venom into the script too). That won't happen with Batman 3.

In Nolan we Trust.
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11:35AM on 10/23/2008

Thank you, nickdoll

I would not wish it upon Nolan by any means, but people do seem to have forgotten how awesome the first two Spidey movies were thanks to the third installation.

Granted, I still think Nolan doing Batman 3 will result in a better end product than the Spider-Man 3 movie, which only really failed because it attempted too much at once. And they downsized J. Jonah Jamison's role, who's my favorite character anyway.
I would not wish it upon Nolan by any means, but people do seem to have forgotten how awesome the first two Spidey movies were thanks to the third installation.

Granted, I still think Nolan doing Batman 3 will result in a better end product than the Spider-Man 3 movie, which only really failed because it attempted too much at once. And they downsized J. Jonah Jamison's role, who's my favorite character anyway.
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11:34AM on 10/23/2008

you know what

i was dissapointed by spidey 3 but after i realized its because 2 was so awesome i got over it its not a a bad movie just long and unorganized

so if i use that mind set with the dark knight and whatever the next one will be calle ill be fine

i know they cant get an actor to play a villian as well as heath did the joker but you could get johnny depp in this picture as the riddler and it wont matter because the joker is that cool

maybe the best comic book villian ever

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i was dissapointed by spidey 3 but after i realized its because 2 was so awesome i got over it its not a a bad movie just long and unorganized

so if i use that mind set with the dark knight and whatever the next one will be calle ill be fine

i know they cant get an actor to play a villian as well as heath did the joker but you could get johnny depp in this picture as the riddler and it wont matter because the joker is that cool

maybe the best comic book villian ever

extra tidbit: who cares about jack ryan movies
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10:53AM on 10/23/2008

Batman 3 = Spider-Man 3

I'm calling it right now. Fans will be let down by Batman 3 resulting in a big opening weekend, perhaps even record breaking (like Spider-Man 3), resulting in a 60-70% plunge in following weeks. Fanboys will turn on Batman and Nolan hardcore, decrying the franchise and blaming Nolan for ruining the series.

This will all be a result of Dark Knight of how good Dark Knight was, and the impossibility of Batman 3 to be half as good. Fans always feel cheated and get pissed when a sequel is not as
I'm calling it right now. Fans will be let down by Batman 3 resulting in a big opening weekend, perhaps even record breaking (like Spider-Man 3), resulting in a 60-70% plunge in following weeks. Fanboys will turn on Batman and Nolan hardcore, decrying the franchise and blaming Nolan for ruining the series.

This will all be a result of Dark Knight of how good Dark Knight was, and the impossibility of Batman 3 to be half as good. Fans always feel cheated and get pissed when a sequel is not as good, often times turning on director's they once love. (See Spider-Man 3, Indy 4)
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