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Rebooting the Terminator Franchise with Damon Lindelof and Paul W.S. Anderson

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So one day, a new TERMINATOR film will be made. Will it be a reboot or continuation? At some point Justin Lin (FAST FIVE) will helm. But for now, why not get some story ideas brewing?

Wired asked Paul W.S. Anderson and Damon Lindelof to pitch them their ideas for a new film. They are both on opposite ends of the spectrum. Anderson gave the serious answer and Lindelof had fun with it. I'd like to see Lindelof's idea though. Even if it was in short form.

Here they are:

Paul W.S. Anderson

"I would pick up after Judgment Day and combine the epic battle for the future with a story set in present day, like the first two films, which were clever and fun. I’d keep it in California: Sunshine, palm trees, and shopping malls are the perfect backdrop for mayhem. It doesn’t have to be grim. I don’t need to see bombastic superheroes fighting for the fate of the world."

"I want it through the eyes of real people. If I can get Arnold back, that would be my preference. He is the brand; nobody else can fill his shoes. But you should have new relatable characters. The best thing about the Terminator is that it was designed to infiltrate society. I’d build the narrative around twists and turns. You’ll have to guess who’s a robot and who’s a human being. It’d be in the same style as Westworld."

"But the centerpiece of the film would be the battle they teased me with for four movies. Imagine a field of tens of thousands of Terminators—not giant Transformer-type robots but human-sized Terminator endoskeletons—getting ready for an all-out epic fight against humanity on the scale of The Lord of the Rings. It would look cool, and it would also be awesome. I’ve been waiting since the first movie to see it. Is someone going to make this soon?"

Damon Lindelof

"The whole “dark depressing futuristic apocalypse” thing is played out. Enough with the machines driving over human skulls. We need us some COMEDY. Look at those numbers for Bridesmaids and Hangover 2. Can you imagine the box office if those movies had HOMICIDAL ROBOTS in them?!? And since we’re evoking Arnold’s work already (evoking is free, by the way—suck it, lawyers), why not combine Terminator with Schwarzenegger’s greatest comedic work?"

"Yeah. That’s right. Kindergarten frigging Cop. Buckle up. Here comes the gold."

"Humans in dystopian future learn that a Terminator traveled back in time and impregnated a woman, resulting in a half-cybernetic child that will grow up to be humankind’s DESTROYER! But due to technological ineptitude, we can’t lock down the mother’s identity (and thus the kid’s), narrowing their whereabouts to a school in a pleasant coastal town."

"And so our story begins as a gruff, futuristic badass with great comedic chops (we’re screwed if the Rock says no) representing the hopes of all humanity travels back to 2012 to identify the half-Terminator 5-year-old by substituting as a kindergarten teacher. And then, after a series of comedic misunderstandings? Kill the little bastard. Pretty sure we can get a PG-13 as long as no one smokes and when the kid gets shot in the face we do it in a classy way."

Extra Tidbit: I'd say f*ck it and make it animated. Something like Pearl Jam's Do the Evolution video. May as well have fun with it.
Source: Wired

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6:16PM on 07/29/2011
I've said this before, and I'll say it again: Make a legit sequel to Salvation. Bring Bale back, have Conner find an old, disheveled army scientist (Schwarzenegger) who is in hiding because the machines are looking for him - as he is one of the designers of the original Terminators (pre -Skynet self awareness). Conner teams up with the old scientist to use his knowledge of Skynet to help destroy it.
I've said this before, and I'll say it again: Make a legit sequel to Salvation. Bring Bale back, have Conner find an old, disheveled army scientist (Schwarzenegger) who is in hiding because the machines are looking for him - as he is one of the designers of the original Terminators (pre -Skynet self awareness). Conner teams up with the old scientist to use his knowledge of Skynet to help destroy it.
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9:03AM on 07/30/2011
"who is your daddy and what does he do?"
"my daddy is a killing machine from the future!"
BOOM HEADSHOT!
"who is your daddy and what does he do?"
"my daddy is a killing machine from the future!"
BOOM HEADSHOT!
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10:14PM on 07/29/2011
LOL sounds like Anderson's answer was all serious & Lindelof's was more sarcastic & humorous like inside his mind he was thinking, reboot the Terminator franchise, wtf is wrong with you people.
LOL sounds like Anderson's answer was all serious & Lindelof's was more sarcastic & humorous like inside his mind he was thinking, reboot the Terminator franchise, wtf is wrong with you people.
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5:52PM on 07/29/2011
I don't like Paul W.S. Anderson as a director, but I agree that I've been waiting to see the type of battle from the future scenes of T1 & T2. Just don't reboot. Set T5 several years after salvation and a director should be able to make the last film or 2 in their own style.
I don't like Paul W.S. Anderson as a director, but I agree that I've been waiting to see the type of battle from the future scenes of T1 & T2. Just don't reboot. Set T5 several years after salvation and a director should be able to make the last film or 2 in their own style.
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7:30PM on 07/29/2011

OR

...we pull Cameron away, from counting his millions, and make him finish what he started. Why can't it be that easy? *sigh*
...we pull Cameron away, from counting his millions, and make him finish what he started. Why can't it be that easy? *sigh*
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10:42PM on 07/29/2011
Because he did already. Hollywood just can't stop beating a dead horse.
Because he did already. Hollywood just can't stop beating a dead horse.
1:24AM on 07/30/2011
This article reads like an April fools joke. These idiots sound like teenagers writing fan fiction.
This article reads like an April fools joke. These idiots sound like teenagers writing fan fiction.
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5:19PM on 07/29/2011
I'm with film geek. I saw the word REBOOT and actually yelled out loud...WTF!!??? Just finish the damn story!
I'm with film geek. I saw the word REBOOT and actually yelled out loud...WTF!!??? Just finish the damn story!
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1:21PM on 07/30/2011

Let Paul W.S. Anderson direct....

And Milla Jovovich will be a high flying sword wielding Terminator from the future and the movie will likely be about her even if Arnold is in it.
And Milla Jovovich will be a high flying sword wielding Terminator from the future and the movie will likely be about her even if Arnold is in it.
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7:32PM on 07/29/2011

Hasta la vista, baby.

Just let this franchise die. T3 and TS were high budget fan fiction films. They weren't Terminator films to me. James Cameron stopped at T2 for a reason, and I believe that reason is the first two films can never be topped by anyone, not even Cameron himself. No more Terminator films, please.
Just let this franchise die. T3 and TS were high budget fan fiction films. They weren't Terminator films to me. James Cameron stopped at T2 for a reason, and I believe that reason is the first two films can never be topped by anyone, not even Cameron himself. No more Terminator films, please.
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6:15PM on 07/29/2011
The Nuclear winter future and the wars waged in it is all I've been wanting to see since the first two Terminator films. Seeing sunlight in the Salvation trailer immediately made it shit in my eyes. Well, that and McG's name at the beginning.
The Nuclear winter future and the wars waged in it is all I've been wanting to see since the first two Terminator films. Seeing sunlight in the Salvation trailer immediately made it shit in my eyes. Well, that and McG's name at the beginning.
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11:13PM on 07/29/2011

HA

Lindelof's made me laugh. Andersons sounded pretty rad. I know people rank on him, but he's a solid director for visual treats, just like synder is, and bay is for explosions. We need these guys to do what they do then the movies wouldn't be fun anymore.
Lindelof's made me laugh. Andersons sounded pretty rad. I know people rank on him, but he's a solid director for visual treats, just like synder is, and bay is for explosions. We need these guys to do what they do then the movies wouldn't be fun anymore.
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9:21PM on 07/29/2011
Who is Damon Lindelof he sounds like a nutcase lol

on a serious note..please no more fucking PG-13 Terminator movies.
Who is Damon Lindelof he sounds like a nutcase lol

on a serious note..please no more fucking PG-13 Terminator movies.
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6:59PM on 07/29/2011
If Paul W.S Anderson got involved it would be THE WORST thing that could possibly happen to this franchise. It's bad enough that he's allowed to piss all over Dumas without him ruining something I grew up with...
If Paul W.S Anderson got involved it would be THE WORST thing that could possibly happen to this franchise. It's bad enough that he's allowed to piss all over Dumas without him ruining something I grew up with...
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10:58PM on 07/29/2011
Lindelof just went up a couple notches in my book.
Lindelof just went up a couple notches in my book.
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7:10PM on 07/29/2011

someone just continue and finish

the new trilogy started by Salvation.

you can have that big war, you can have whatever you want, but CONTINUE and FINISH the trilogy started with Salvation, that's what I want to see!

Hell, even if one of the movies is a prequel to Salvation that connects Rise of the Machines to Salvation and shows John Connor's rise, and then the final installment shows the final big battle and declares a victor.
the new trilogy started by Salvation.

you can have that big war, you can have whatever you want, but CONTINUE and FINISH the trilogy started with Salvation, that's what I want to see!

Hell, even if one of the movies is a prequel to Salvation that connects Rise of the Machines to Salvation and shows John Connor's rise, and then the final installment shows the final big battle and declares a victor.
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8:02PM on 07/30/2011
Andersons got it damn well right!!
Andersons got it damn well right!!
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10:20PM on 07/29/2011

No, no, no

At first I thought that hack Anderson might be up to something but then he goes "on the scale of LOTR". Which means more of his shitty CGI and "his epic wannabe Peter Jackson" action sequences. They all just don't get it. Everyone was excited for a future war terminator movie because we wanted to see that dark Cameron vision of a WAR movie but with frickin Robots and laser guns, and humanity on the brink, underground, going out at night, with proper concentration camps, R rating and with John
At first I thought that hack Anderson might be up to something but then he goes "on the scale of LOTR". Which means more of his shitty CGI and "his epic wannabe Peter Jackson" action sequences. They all just don't get it. Everyone was excited for a future war terminator movie because we wanted to see that dark Cameron vision of a WAR movie but with frickin Robots and laser guns, and humanity on the brink, underground, going out at night, with proper concentration camps, R rating and with John Connor kicking terminator ass. There Hollywood, I just told you how it's done! Maybe throw in a T-1000 here and there
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8:54PM on 07/29/2011
I really hope they don't reboot it. You can tell an infinite number of stories in the Terminator Universe. I wouldn't mind seeing a movie where the humans regain power over the robots somehow and maybe some robots have human emotions so they have to choose whether or not they can coexist with the robots or something... To reboot it would suck, especially since nobody can replace Arnold, Linda Hamilton or Edward Furlong. Just keep the same story going, the Terminatorverse is very huge.

And
I really hope they don't reboot it. You can tell an infinite number of stories in the Terminator Universe. I wouldn't mind seeing a movie where the humans regain power over the robots somehow and maybe some robots have human emotions so they have to choose whether or not they can coexist with the robots or something... To reboot it would suck, especially since nobody can replace Arnold, Linda Hamilton or Edward Furlong. Just keep the same story going, the Terminatorverse is very huge.

And keep Paul W. S. Anderson FAAAAAR away.
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11:06PM on 07/29/2011
Paul W.S. Anderson: "I'm here to dumb down the holy blue shit out of the Terminator franchise. I'm going to rip out all the mystique, then replace it with inane fight sequences. You see, I hate iconic films, so I want this new atrocity to be the polar opposite."
Paul W.S. Anderson: "I'm here to dumb down the holy blue shit out of the Terminator franchise. I'm going to rip out all the mystique, then replace it with inane fight sequences. You see, I hate iconic films, so I want this new atrocity to be the polar opposite."
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1:17PM on 08/01/2011
The idiot who said we should make it a comedy needs to be shot. really.
The idiot who said we should make it a comedy needs to be shot. really.
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6:55PM on 07/30/2011
out of all the ideas ive heard for another terminator Paul anderson and i cant believe im saying this hit the nail on the head this series more than anything has been one giant prick tease we want to see the robots fight and maybe he is the guy to do it cos while his movie may not have the substance he does blow shit up like a mother fucker
out of all the ideas ive heard for another terminator Paul anderson and i cant believe im saying this hit the nail on the head this series more than anything has been one giant prick tease we want to see the robots fight and maybe he is the guy to do it cos while his movie may not have the substance he does blow shit up like a mother fucker
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5:46PM on 07/29/2011
Saw that headline and Anderson's name and freaked the hell out. I was going to be so pissed!
Saw that headline and Anderson's name and freaked the hell out. I was going to be so pissed!
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5:38PM on 07/29/2011
I agree with Anderson that a battle between endoskeletons and humans would be cool. But please no Arnold. I don't get it why people think Arnold Schwarzenegger is the key to a (good) Terminator film. The cgi appearance in Salvation was a nice nod, but I don't want to see an old wrinkled Terminator. Terminator 3 was already a stretch.
I agree with Anderson that a battle between endoskeletons and humans would be cool. But please no Arnold. I don't get it why people think Arnold Schwarzenegger is the key to a (good) Terminator film. The cgi appearance in Salvation was a nice nod, but I don't want to see an old wrinkled Terminator. Terminator 3 was already a stretch.
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2:44PM on 07/30/2011
Here is a few interesting ideas:
Terminator vs predator
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Terminator vs Robocop
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Here is a few interesting ideas:
Terminator vs predator
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Terminator vs Robocop
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7:29AM on 07/30/2011
Call me crazy, but I would probably watch both of those treatments.
Call me crazy, but I would probably watch both of those treatments.
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7:05AM on 07/30/2011
Yeah, reboot Terminator with comedy - "Talk to the Hand". Yep.
Yeah, reboot Terminator with comedy - "Talk to the Hand". Yep.
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5:43PM on 07/29/2011
yeah i just read this article a little bit ago over at slashfilm. i wish Damon lindeloff had taken it seriously he probably could have had a good idea. Anything paul ws anderson touches turns to shit!
yeah i just read this article a little bit ago over at slashfilm. i wish Damon lindeloff had taken it seriously he probably could have had a good idea. Anything paul ws anderson touches turns to shit!
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12:10AM on 07/30/2011
I was optimistic when i read Damon Lindelof but Paul W.S. Anderson doesnt make good movies, no better than McG at least...
I was optimistic when i read Damon Lindelof but Paul W.S. Anderson doesnt make good movies, no better than McG at least...
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6:41PM on 07/31/2011
(Update: Because of Brer B8a this post is now a major spoiler to the TV show Lost. So if you haven't finished watching it do not read this and the replies.)

Mr. Lindelof forget to say how it ends:
But then we find out that they were actually dead the whole time.
A low blow from a JoBlo Schmoe.
(Update: Because of Brer B8a this post is now a major spoiler to the TV show Lost. So if you haven't finished watching it do not read this and the replies.)

Mr. Lindelof forget to say how it ends:
But then we find out that they were actually dead the whole time.
A low blow from a JoBlo Schmoe.
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9:07PM on 07/31/2011
Was this suppose to be a jab at Lost? Because it failed.
Was this suppose to be a jab at Lost? Because it failed.
5:50AM on 08/01/2011
Yes it was, and seeing as how you got it, it obviously did not fail.
Listen, I'm a big Lost fan, I followed it from beginning to end but the ending was pretty gay no matter how you spin it. It was a good way for them to not have to explain all the weird stuff that happened on the island and that's all it is.
Yes it was, and seeing as how you got it, it obviously did not fail.
Listen, I'm a big Lost fan, I followed it from beginning to end but the ending was pretty gay no matter how you spin it. It was a good way for them to not have to explain all the weird stuff that happened on the island and that's all it is.
2:47PM on 08/01/2011
Just because someone recognizes the reference doesn't mean the joke is successful. I get that Vampires Suck was making fun of twilight, but the jokes are failures of epic proportions.
Plus I find it funny that there are still some people that think everyone was "dead the whole time," way to miss the point dude.
Just because someone recognizes the reference doesn't mean the joke is successful. I get that Vampires Suck was making fun of twilight, but the jokes are failures of epic proportions.
Plus I find it funny that there are still some people that think everyone was "dead the whole time," way to miss the point dude.
5:55PM on 08/14/2011
You're twisting around words dude, I never said it was a joke. It's not, it was a low-blow jab, so if anyone picks up on it, it's succesful. That case is closed.

Next point, Damon Lindelof talked extensively about the ending of Lost with Kevin Pollack on his show and no matter "how funny you think it is that people get it wrong" it's actually you who got it wrong and they WERE really dead the whole time.

Check your facts before being a wise-ass.
You're twisting around words dude, I never said it was a joke. It's not, it was a low-blow jab, so if anyone picks up on it, it's succesful. That case is closed.

Next point, Damon Lindelof talked extensively about the ending of Lost with Kevin Pollack on his show and no matter "how funny you think it is that people get it wrong" it's actually you who got it wrong and they WERE really dead the whole time.

Check your facts before being a wise-ass.
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6:00AM on 07/30/2011

People read the thing first

BTW Damon Lindelof's version is the way forward
BTW Damon Lindelof's version is the way forward
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6:36PM on 07/29/2011
If Justin Lin can do for this series what he's done for fast and furious then someone get him on it right away.
If Justin Lin can do for this series what he's done for fast and furious then someone get him on it right away.
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5:17PM on 07/29/2011

What! The! FU*K!

This is horrible! Paul WS ANderson? Jesus! Why not get Uwe Boll? I'm sure he'd do it REAL cheap. Not classy like Paul WS Anderson. I can't believe he's still allowed to make mediocre movies.
This is horrible! Paul WS ANderson? Jesus! Why not get Uwe Boll? I'm sure he'd do it REAL cheap. Not classy like Paul WS Anderson. I can't believe he's still allowed to make mediocre movies.
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4:09AM on 07/30/2011

Pulling your legs!

Come on! Both guys were kidding and just having a little fun at your expense. They did it to see if they could get a rise out of the fanboys...and uh...wow...I think it worked...
Come on! Both guys were kidding and just having a little fun at your expense. They did it to see if they could get a rise out of the fanboys...and uh...wow...I think it worked...
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5:15PM on 07/29/2011
I too love the Lindelof version, sign me in! I think the terminator universe is enough explored, and "terminator salvation" was the last nail in the coffin.
I too love the Lindelof version, sign me in! I think the terminator universe is enough explored, and "terminator salvation" was the last nail in the coffin.
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