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Response from director Guillermo Del Toro on Pacific Rim's poor tracking report

Jun. 28, 2013by:

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A few days ago there was news that audience interest was tracking low for Guillermo Del Toro's PACIFIC RIM and the film was in fact tracking lower than GROWN UPS 2 which is out the same day. I know, I know it hurts the brain to think about such things. It reminds me of when PLANET TERROR/DEATH PROOF was released in 2007 on the same weekend as ARE WE DONE YET? with Ice Cube and that film opened to higher numbers than the Rodriguez/Tarantino collaboration.

Early tracking for GROWN UPS 2 has the film grossing around $40 million its opening weekend and even if PACIFIC RIM comes close to matching that the same weekend it's not very good news for a film with a budget close to $200 million. Guillermo Del Toro doesn't seem too concerned about the poor tracking but he still appears to be rallying his fans to support the film. THR has learned that the director was on the fan site Deltorosfilms.com and in a forum he told his supporters not to worry about the negative press.

We just need to keep working. Our numbers are going up. Not in a minor way. Significant. We are on the right track.

Del Toro also brought up GROWN UPS 2 and admitted that sequels have an edge when it comes to audience awareness but also feels his film is doing just fine.

Whatever sequel opens will have, by definition, higher awareness and numbers across the board, but we are moving strongly in the right direction.

One thing to keep in mind is audience tracking has not been that reliable this summer. THE GREAT GATSBY and WORLD WAR Z both outperformed original box office expectations while STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS did not open nearly as high as many people predicted. PACIFIC RIM is out in two weeks so that still gives Del Toro and the marketing team for the film some time to build awareness for the film, which is just what they are doing and Guillermo Del Toro thanked his fans for their support.

We are working on it. We concentrated on the core for a long time -- but we are barely started on the campaign. I am seeing the ads now and I am seeing outdoors and we are now supplementing what we did with character or tone. Thank you all for your good faith and love.

So if you love Guillermo Del Toro's work (and want to stick it to Adam Sandler) support PACIFIC RIM and go see it when the film hits theaters on July 12th, 2013.

Extra Tidbit: Hopefully PACIFIC RIM doesn't suck or there's going to be a lot of Del Toro fans with egg on their faces.
Source: THR

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8:22AM on 07/02/2013

Not the first time

The buzz on the first X-Men film was awful right before it came out. There was word that early test reviews had tanked and that no one liked the trailer and so on. Of course, opening weekend it did gangbusters and launched the comic book films as we know them now. The numbers aren't always right.
The buzz on the first X-Men film was awful right before it came out. There was word that early test reviews had tanked and that no one liked the trailer and so on. Of course, opening weekend it did gangbusters and launched the comic book films as we know them now. The numbers aren't always right.
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4:10PM on 06/30/2013
Maybe, just maybe, because the movie looks like a stupid Transformers knock off? I still have no idea why everyone is assuming this movie will be great just because Guillermo is directing. Hell Boy 1 and 2 were awesome, Pan's Labyrinth was amazing, but all three no where near had the budget of this movie. I'm still puzzled why the studio greenlit this film. When it comes down to it, we're just watching a CGI movie.
Maybe, just maybe, because the movie looks like a stupid Transformers knock off? I still have no idea why everyone is assuming this movie will be great just because Guillermo is directing. Hell Boy 1 and 2 were awesome, Pan's Labyrinth was amazing, but all three no where near had the budget of this movie. I'm still puzzled why the studio greenlit this film. When it comes down to it, we're just watching a CGI movie.
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2:42AM on 06/30/2013

I'll wait for Blu ray......

I think this movie looks entertaining. On the other hand every time I see the commercials it reminds of every scene ever from the Power Rangers were they morph into a big robot to fight the giant monster. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing as I used to watch Power Rangers as a kid. I'm not expecting anything epic but I will see it when it hits Blu ray.
I think this movie looks entertaining. On the other hand every time I see the commercials it reminds of every scene ever from the Power Rangers were they morph into a big robot to fight the giant monster. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing as I used to watch Power Rangers as a kid. I'm not expecting anything epic but I will see it when it hits Blu ray.
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2:16PM on 06/29/2013
I'm not a fan of the way film discussion has become so political. Movies are no longer based on their own merit, but are either adored or detested, even prior to their release, based on the subjective feelings of differing audience segments towards the director or actors or whatever else.

Without honest criticism of a film's merits or lack thereof then filmmakers have no way , and no reason to care, what is good or what they should improve. Directors like Tarantino have their films lauded
I'm not a fan of the way film discussion has become so political. Movies are no longer based on their own merit, but are either adored or detested, even prior to their release, based on the subjective feelings of differing audience segments towards the director or actors or whatever else.

Without honest criticism of a film's merits or lack thereof then filmmakers have no way , and no reason to care, what is good or what they should improve. Directors like Tarantino have their films lauded without question by many because everyone believes he is a genius, so what you're watching must be genius, even if you don't know why and basically none of his films take place anywhere even resembling reality, so any emotional involvement is basically out of the question. I like Tarantino, don't get me wrong, but it's not my job to do his legwork and pump up his film before I've ever seen it because I like a lot of his older work. Just as it is not anyone's job to advertise Pacific Rim just because they like Del Toro or Charlie Hunnam or whatever.

I have been looking forward to Pacific Rim, even though I'm not a huge Del Toro guy, but hopefully his supporters and critics can judge the film based on its own merit and not some fan club mentality that obfuscates the truth or some predisposed dislike toward the film based on bad press. Not all good movies make money and not all bad movies fail, but as an audience you should demand quality regardless of any personal feelings towards anyone involved in the film. If not, you are just giving your money away. Some would say this is just a film site and the opinions expressed are not that important, but the conglomeration of film websites collectively go a long way in deciding the overall opinion of a film and the studios do pay a great deal of attention to that.

Even if you love their work, you don't owe these people any more than the small fortune a trip to the movies cost these days.
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1:16PM on 06/29/2013
I'm surprised how optimistic you guys are for this thing. Giant robots, CGI fest, awful writing, overacting...we have seen this before 10 times, IMO.
I'm surprised how optimistic you guys are for this thing. Giant robots, CGI fest, awful writing, overacting...we have seen this before 10 times, IMO.
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1:47PM on 06/29/2013
How do you know the writing is awful or that the acting is bad? Have you seen the film?
How do you know the writing is awful or that the acting is bad? Have you seen the film?
4:08PM on 06/28/2013
I'm very excited for this movie the spectacle looks awesome and some TV spots and clips have shown it is more than just that and that there are character moments, but most of all I want Del Toro to do well. If this film succeeds we can get more high budget movies out of GDT. The guy is a great director, and I want to see some of his original work, plus I would love if At the Mountains of Madness happens.
I'm very excited for this movie the spectacle looks awesome and some TV spots and clips have shown it is more than just that and that there are character moments, but most of all I want Del Toro to do well. If this film succeeds we can get more high budget movies out of GDT. The guy is a great director, and I want to see some of his original work, plus I would love if At the Mountains of Madness happens.
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3:30PM on 06/28/2013
The marketing has been okay but aimed only at the geek fan market (which I am a part of.) Maybe it does need more of a human face added since it really does not have a mega star.
If it does fail, watch the Godzilla producers get a little nervous.
The marketing has been okay but aimed only at the geek fan market (which I am a part of.) Maybe it does need more of a human face added since it really does not have a mega star.
If it does fail, watch the Godzilla producers get a little nervous.
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3:18PM on 06/28/2013
I'll see this as a fan of Del Toro, but I'm not surprised the film isn't tracking well. This has to be the worst marketed film since John Carter. The trailer tells you nothing about the characters or their motivation. The tv spots are even worse, b/c they just show some clips of a robot fighting a monster without any context.
I'll see this as a fan of Del Toro, but I'm not surprised the film isn't tracking well. This has to be the worst marketed film since John Carter. The trailer tells you nothing about the characters or their motivation. The tv spots are even worse, b/c they just show some clips of a robot fighting a monster without any context.
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3:10PM on 06/28/2013
I'd like a Jaeger to slam Adam Sandler's face with a giant boat.
I'd like a Jaeger to slam Adam Sandler's face with a giant boat.
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3:04PM on 06/28/2013

At least Grown Ups is an original idea

A shitty one, but original. But this just goes to show you that their is no reason for studios to fund original ideas, especially dropping $200 mil! I was really hoping this does well, I love the cast and Del Toro is one of the best Directors we have today. Hopefully it will have legs and do well for a few weeks.
A shitty one, but original. But this just goes to show you that their is no reason for studios to fund original ideas, especially dropping $200 mil! I was really hoping this does well, I love the cast and Del Toro is one of the best Directors we have today. Hopefully it will have legs and do well for a few weeks.
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3:15PM on 06/28/2013
4-5 comedians resting on their laurels in an ensmble comedy while spitting out poor one liners and predictable fat jokes. That's an original idea?

Curious, can you elaborate how Grown Ups is an original idea?
4-5 comedians resting on their laurels in an ensmble comedy while spitting out poor one liners and predictable fat jokes. That's an original idea?

Curious, can you elaborate how Grown Ups is an original idea?
4:07PM on 06/28/2013
I mostly hate that Adam Sandler figured out a way for he and his buddies to take a vacation on the company dime, filmed the worst parts of it, and called it a movie. I remember the Billy Madison, Happy Gilmore, Bulletproof, Wedding Singer days when we never knew what Sandler was gonna do next but that it would be edgy, hilarious, quotable and awesome. His comedy albums were absolute legend in my middle and high school years. Now he just does shit like Jack & Jill and cashes a check. I only wish
I mostly hate that Adam Sandler figured out a way for he and his buddies to take a vacation on the company dime, filmed the worst parts of it, and called it a movie. I remember the Billy Madison, Happy Gilmore, Bulletproof, Wedding Singer days when we never knew what Sandler was gonna do next but that it would be edgy, hilarious, quotable and awesome. His comedy albums were absolute legend in my middle and high school years. Now he just does shit like Jack & Jill and cashes a check. I only wish his acting efforts, like Grown Ups, were as good as some of his producing ones that he doesn't star in, like Grandma's Boy. Although That's My Boy was probably as close to the original Sandler as we're gonna get.
1:30PM on 06/28/2013

I hate everyone.

People can bitch about sequels and remakes, BUT YET YOU TURN OUT IN DROVES TO THEM. This is why studios make mostly them now. If Grown Ups 2 beats Pac Rim, I ... I just don't know.
People can bitch about sequels and remakes, BUT YET YOU TURN OUT IN DROVES TO THEM. This is why studios make mostly them now. If Grown Ups 2 beats Pac Rim, I ... I just don't know.
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1:06PM on 06/28/2013
Pacific Rim will inevitably be one of those movies that does better internationally and over the long term. Like all Guillermo Del Toro projects, it'll have a real shelf life.

But all the same, I'm seeing it opening weekend.
Pacific Rim will inevitably be one of those movies that does better internationally and over the long term. Like all Guillermo Del Toro projects, it'll have a real shelf life.

But all the same, I'm seeing it opening weekend.
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12:44PM on 06/28/2013

Visually stunning, mindless good time

Pacific Rim is my #4 most anticipated film of the year behind Man of Steel, Iron Man 3 & The Desolation of Smaug. Why? Because it's going to be visually amazing & a mindless, kck ass time. I have no expectations for much of a plot. I just think that it will be a blast to see on the big screen. When I 1st heard about it I thought it was the dumbest idea for a movie that I've heard of in years. However, the more I see, the more I learn & the more I play the simulator game on line the more I get
Pacific Rim is my #4 most anticipated film of the year behind Man of Steel, Iron Man 3 & The Desolation of Smaug. Why? Because it's going to be visually amazing & a mindless, kck ass time. I have no expectations for much of a plot. I just think that it will be a blast to see on the big screen. When I 1st heard about it I thought it was the dumbest idea for a movie that I've heard of in years. However, the more I see, the more I learn & the more I play the simulator game on line the more I get excited. I think his marketing so far as been okay. Not as good as Man of Steel, which was damn near perfect marketing, but still okay. I can't wait to see how he steps up his game in these last couple of weeks.
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12:42PM on 06/28/2013

they have a f'n ship being used as a sword!

Enough said. Ticket sold!
Enough said. Ticket sold!
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12:25PM on 06/28/2013
Well, they've done nothing but advertise "Transformers vs Cloverfield! In nonstop CG!!"
Sure I'll rent it, but I'm not dying to see it.
Well, they've done nothing but advertise "Transformers vs Cloverfield! In nonstop CG!!"
Sure I'll rent it, but I'm not dying to see it.
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12:25PM on 06/28/2013
I know most of you guys hated Battleship last year, but I found it enjoyable despite it's rather silly premise. Maybe because of Del Toro, you support Pacific Rim a hundred times more but it has an even sillier premise that an average moviegoer may not swallow. I know this will be a good time in the movies yet I feel that it won't reach mass audiances like Transformers did. Unfortunate but possible.
I know most of you guys hated Battleship last year, but I found it enjoyable despite it's rather silly premise. Maybe because of Del Toro, you support Pacific Rim a hundred times more but it has an even sillier premise that an average moviegoer may not swallow. I know this will be a good time in the movies yet I feel that it won't reach mass audiances like Transformers did. Unfortunate but possible.
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4:02PM on 06/28/2013
I really had fun with Battleship. I can see why some people hated it, but I thought it was a popcorn blast.
I really had fun with Battleship. I can see why some people hated it, but I thought it was a popcorn blast.
12:23PM on 06/28/2013
"(and want to stick it to Adam Sandler)"

Are we twelve? I don't think the state of Cinema is so bad these days that it comes down to Adam Sandler VS. del Toro. My mom and dad need movies to go see too you know. Sandler's job is to make movies for a general audience, not film fans, and he does a good job at it. Fine time to just let me be, you guys.

As for Pacific Rim - objectively, the movie is not appealing. Aesthetically the trailers have all been very dark and lack color, and this
"(and want to stick it to Adam Sandler)"

Are we twelve? I don't think the state of Cinema is so bad these days that it comes down to Adam Sandler VS. del Toro. My mom and dad need movies to go see too you know. Sandler's job is to make movies for a general audience, not film fans, and he does a good job at it. Fine time to just let me be, you guys.

As for Pacific Rim - objectively, the movie is not appealing. Aesthetically the trailers have all been very dark and lack color, and this is summer in a weird political climate which is a time when many people go to the theater looking for uplifting Blockbusters. Also, the acting and actors in the trailers are very dry and, despite seeing tons of trailers and clips, I can't quote or describe any of their scenes from memory to you. And this is coming from a huge The Wire fanboy.

Personally, I don't plan on seeing this movie. I am burnt out on spectacle, (same reason I ignored IM3, Star Trek, and Superman.) I will, however, be purchasing a ticket or two just to support the numbers because I'm sure this will influence rather or not del Toro is able to make ATMOM. I don't necessarily want him to make it, but the guy is so passionate about it and keeps getting shut down that I feel bad for him. Also it would finally shut the del Toro fanboys up and make room for Lovecraft fans to finally focus on someone other than him to do a proper adaptation of Lovecraft's work. (I'm not sure where this whole it HAS to be del Toro BS came from in the first place, but it is very prevalent in the online community.) He lost what little faith I had in him properly adapting it last year after his comments about how Prometheus would prevent him from making it because of the "similarities." As a life long Lovecraft fan I REALLY question what the hell kind of film he actually planned/plans to make if he thinks something like Prometheus could get in the way of it.
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1:01PM on 06/28/2013
If you ignored Man of Steel and Star Trek into Darkness then you really missed out, homie. However, you're awesome for not seeing Iron Man 3.
If you ignored Man of Steel and Star Trek into Darkness then you really missed out, homie. However, you're awesome for not seeing Iron Man 3.
1:10PM on 06/28/2013
Sandler has had no problem" sticking it" to audiences. I'm not saying that it's any cause to be immature about it but I can see why people would be upset. There's nothing wrong with ignoring someone that has such contempt for audiences that support him.
Sandler has had no problem" sticking it" to audiences. I'm not saying that it's any cause to be immature about it but I can see why people would be upset. There's nothing wrong with ignoring someone that has such contempt for audiences that support him.
6:14AM on 06/29/2013
I've actually read the script for ATMOM and it was incredible, very dark and not studio friendly, but it was awesome. I think, really, the similarities end at just kind of the tone and aesthetic of Prometheus being similar. Beyond that there are nothing alike.
I've actually read the script for ATMOM and it was incredible, very dark and not studio friendly, but it was awesome. I think, really, the similarities end at just kind of the tone and aesthetic of Prometheus being similar. Beyond that there are nothing alike.
12:09PM on 06/28/2013
As long as the movie's great, mother-fuck the box office. Blade Runner didn't set the cash money on fire either and that film is a gorram masterpiece.
Scott Pilgrim vs the World, Office Space, Shawshank Redemption, A Christmas Story and Carpenter's The Thing have seats at this table too...
As long as the movie's great, mother-fuck the box office. Blade Runner didn't set the cash money on fire either and that film is a gorram masterpiece.
Scott Pilgrim vs the World, Office Space, Shawshank Redemption, A Christmas Story and Carpenter's The Thing have seats at this table too...
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12:04PM on 06/28/2013

PIss poor marketing

honestly most of the trailers have been very underwhelming. If Del Toro's name wasn't attached to this I may have written it off but I know he will deliver something worthwhile. I also can't believe the marketing department isn't pimping the actors. Sure there aren't any big name actors but they are actors with a cult following. Elba was been getting bigger in the geek world, Hunnan is on a super successful show and is a favorite of the ladies and freakin Charlie Day has the biggest cult
honestly most of the trailers have been very underwhelming. If Del Toro's name wasn't attached to this I may have written it off but I know he will deliver something worthwhile. I also can't believe the marketing department isn't pimping the actors. Sure there aren't any big name actors but they are actors with a cult following. Elba was been getting bigger in the geek world, Hunnan is on a super successful show and is a favorite of the ladies and freakin Charlie Day has the biggest cult following of them all! I know a ton of hardcore SUnny fans who had no idea Day was even in this film, but it made them want to see it. The trailers needed to get these names out there or atleast show the actors in them!
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11:27AM on 06/28/2013

It just has 'bomb' written all over it, sadly.

The marketing hasn't been very effective in conveying that it *isn't* a Transformers rip-off (NOT saying that it is, but I'm saying the marketing isn't doing a good job translating that to audiences). Charlie Hunman is OK but he's not really the kind of leading man I'd bank a $200 mil blockbuster on -- reminds me of Taylor Kitsch in John Carter, speaking frankly. They should have put someone in the role with at least some kind of star status, who could sell the picture more easily. (There are
The marketing hasn't been very effective in conveying that it *isn't* a Transformers rip-off (NOT saying that it is, but I'm saying the marketing isn't doing a good job translating that to audiences). Charlie Hunman is OK but he's not really the kind of leading man I'd bank a $200 mil blockbuster on -- reminds me of Taylor Kitsch in John Carter, speaking frankly. They should have put someone in the role with at least some kind of star status, who could sell the picture more easily. (There are plenty of actors I consider to be more talented than Hunman, who are also more famous.) Anyway... I wouldn't be surprised at all if this thing fails to even recoup its budget in theaters, which isn't something I'd be happy about - I love del Toro's work - but I have to count myself as one of the apparently many who feel rather indifferent toward this movie at the moment.
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11:03AM on 06/28/2013
Ignore tracking, everyone I know who seen the trailer wants to see it. This is typical Hollywood flailing from studios who are afraid of green-lighting big budget original films over sequels to shitty cheap comedys.
Ignore tracking, everyone I know who seen the trailer wants to see it. This is typical Hollywood flailing from studios who are afraid of green-lighting big budget original films over sequels to shitty cheap comedys.
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10:57AM on 06/28/2013

They needed a star

The problem with this kind of movie and the general audience is that they usually find out about a movie or gain interest when there is a star recognize. This movie is full of unknowns and that will probably hurt opening weekend numbers. IMO, they needed a star to create the franchise.
The problem with this kind of movie and the general audience is that they usually find out about a movie or gain interest when there is a star recognize. This movie is full of unknowns and that will probably hurt opening weekend numbers. IMO, they needed a star to create the franchise.
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10:46AM on 06/28/2013
The only reason I can think of that may have been the cause of the low numbers is that the general movie going public often mistakes Guillermo for Benicio in name only.
"Wha? That dude with the bad hair and gas tank is directing a movie? That's f--d up, bro!"
The only reason I can think of that may have been the cause of the low numbers is that the general movie going public often mistakes Guillermo for Benicio in name only.
"Wha? That dude with the bad hair and gas tank is directing a movie? That's f--d up, bro!"
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11:52AM on 06/28/2013
I don't know if that's partly racist or not.......
I don't know if that's partly racist or not.......
5:57PM on 06/28/2013
That is not a reflection of my own opinion, mind you. Just illustrating how familiarity could be the bigger factor in these early surveys.

That is not a reflection of my own opinion, mind you. Just illustrating how familiarity could be the bigger factor in these early surveys.

10:35AM on 06/28/2013
My opinion of a movie is never based on what other people think. Movies are as personal as music. There really is no right or wrong, just what you like. This looks awesome to me, and even if it tanks or doesn't get a sequel it will be a fun time at the movies and I'm sort of thankful for being able to experience it.
My opinion of a movie is never based on what other people think. Movies are as personal as music. There really is no right or wrong, just what you like. This looks awesome to me, and even if it tanks or doesn't get a sequel it will be a fun time at the movies and I'm sort of thankful for being able to experience it.
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10:29AM on 06/28/2013
As much as I don't want to admit, this movie will end up being scoffed by the general public. Pacific Rim is essentially a homage to a long forgotten fad in the 80's to 90's, "giant piloted mechs vs giant monsters", something that young people are just not very familiar with and won't care about. Because of this, people will think of this as a poor-man's Transfomers. Also something to note, I know a few friends who are actually looking forward to Grown Ups 2, and have been fans of the Happy
As much as I don't want to admit, this movie will end up being scoffed by the general public. Pacific Rim is essentially a homage to a long forgotten fad in the 80's to 90's, "giant piloted mechs vs giant monsters", something that young people are just not very familiar with and won't care about. Because of this, people will think of this as a poor-man's Transfomers. Also something to note, I know a few friends who are actually looking forward to Grown Ups 2, and have been fans of the Happy Madison movies since forever.
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10:02AM on 06/28/2013

Still not Impressed...

How can people be excited to see this movie and bash a film like Battleship, same f'in thing!
How can people be excited to see this movie and bash a film like Battleship, same f'in thing!
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10:06AM on 06/28/2013
I can also kinda agree with you here. Peter Berg doesn't have the resume as Del Toro does, but he's made some good movies. I can't think of one shitty movie, and that includes Battleship, which I thought was a kick-ass summer movie.
I can also kinda agree with you here. Peter Berg doesn't have the resume as Del Toro does, but he's made some good movies. I can't think of one shitty movie, and that includes Battleship, which I thought was a kick-ass summer movie.
9:33AM on 06/28/2013
The fact that a buttload of people are looking forward to Grown Ups 2 is just reality; most people are stupid fucking douchebags. But that Pacific Rim has a poor tracking report is undoubtedly due to the overabundance of fucking-shit-up blockbusters the past few months. All PR needs to be is good and the people will flock to it.
The fact that a buttload of people are looking forward to Grown Ups 2 is just reality; most people are stupid fucking douchebags. But that Pacific Rim has a poor tracking report is undoubtedly due to the overabundance of fucking-shit-up blockbusters the past few months. All PR needs to be is good and the people will flock to it.
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9:31AM on 06/28/2013
Ok... Del Toro has proven to be a highly visionary director in the past, but I can understand why average people who has no idea who he is are having a hard time getting excited about this movie... because it doesn't look that good. From a man who has been known for brilliant simplicity and practical over CG effects, we get a trailer full of CG robots and monsters, none of which look different enough from what we've seen on the big screen before to peak our interest. Even in the trailers I
Ok... Del Toro has proven to be a highly visionary director in the past, but I can understand why average people who has no idea who he is are having a hard time getting excited about this movie... because it doesn't look that good. From a man who has been known for brilliant simplicity and practical over CG effects, we get a trailer full of CG robots and monsters, none of which look different enough from what we've seen on the big screen before to peak our interest. Even in the trailers I don't know whats happening most the time because everything is moving so fast and every image has way too much stuff going on. I'll check it out, but probably not in theaters and only because Del Toro's name is on it. If it wasn't for that, I would even consider it.
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9:32AM on 06/28/2013
Couldnt agree more with your thoughts.
Couldnt agree more with your thoughts.
9:43AM on 06/28/2013
Ditto.
Ditto.
9:47AM on 06/28/2013
Yes again I 100% agree. Also is the cast. Now I know (and love) everyone in the cast as I'm sure everyone on this sight does, but the normal house hold doesn't. I agree, except I WILL see this in theatres bc I trust Del Toro, but yes, overall, it looks bad,
Yes again I 100% agree. Also is the cast. Now I know (and love) everyone in the cast as I'm sure everyone on this sight does, but the normal house hold doesn't. I agree, except I WILL see this in theatres bc I trust Del Toro, but yes, overall, it looks bad,
9:55AM on 06/28/2013
I agree that Pacific Rim doesn't look particularly good, but it's not the giant robots versus monsters scenes that have me concerned. What looks absolutely ridiculous and laughable is the shots of the human soldiers and their performance capture suits that they use to control the robots. Hopefully, they don't cutaway to this too often.

One point of contention, though. You wrote that "even in trailers I don't know what's happening most the time because everything is moving so fast." Well,
I agree that Pacific Rim doesn't look particularly good, but it's not the giant robots versus monsters scenes that have me concerned. What looks absolutely ridiculous and laughable is the shots of the human soldiers and their performance capture suits that they use to control the robots. Hopefully, they don't cutaway to this too often.

One point of contention, though. You wrote that "even in trailers I don't know what's happening most the time because everything is moving so fast." Well, yeah, trailers are edited quickly, so of course they will be moving fast and cluttered. That is expected in a trailer, which makes the "even in trailers" line almost ironic. The best judge is how it looks when edited in context of the film.
9:09AM on 06/28/2013

He needs to take a page out if Nolan's book.

He needs to start doing a one for me one for you when it comes to making movies for studios. I really hate to say this but start making a mainstream franchise movie and Inbetween each trilogy movie make a movie for yourself with an original concept or a passion project. Nolan's was what? Batman Begins>The Prestige>The Dark Knight>Inception>The Dark Knight Rises. I believe if Nolan didn't make those batman movies for WB he wouldn't be in the position he is in today. After Begins the Trailer for
He needs to start doing a one for me one for you when it comes to making movies for studios. I really hate to say this but start making a mainstream franchise movie and Inbetween each trilogy movie make a movie for yourself with an original concept or a passion project. Nolan's was what? Batman Begins>The Prestige>The Dark Knight>Inception>The Dark Knight Rises. I believe if Nolan didn't make those batman movies for WB he wouldn't be in the position he is in today. After Begins the Trailer for the Prestige said "from the director of Batman Begins" BAM right there you have general consumer interest from people who have seen the mainstream Batman movie. Obviously because of Heath Ledgers death and the curiosity of the role in the publics eye people flocked to go see The Dark Knight, so the public to a greater extent is very familiar with the guy who directed boatmen movies. He assembled a great cast for Inception with a great original concept, after Inception you can say Nolan has written his own ticket and has become a 'brand'.

I feel that what del-toro needs to do to continue to make the movies he wants to make. Nolan doesn't need to scrape and beg for money for a movie anymore or in the far distant future. I completely understand how Del-Toro received money for this project, it's big robots fighting monsters, that's all the money men see in their eyes. "Big robots fighting monsters huh? Right this can work we can make X amount of profit If we put it out around the same time Transfrmers came out, we're going to clean up. Put it in 3D also to boost profit at the office also and we have a deal". They didn't give him money because of who he is, business people care about the X's and O's. If Nolan didn't make those batman movies think about what those people would've said to him if he went in to ask for money about an original concept about dreams within dreams. Look at Spielberg and Cameron also. Money talks not concept ideas and passion projects. You need to make money in order to continue business.

I will be going to see this movie not because I'm a fan of Del-Toro but because it just looks like a fun movie with one of my favorite actors Idris Elba. If this bombs-(which I hope it doesn't)-why would anyone way to give him money to make in the mountains of madness?! Your giant robot fighting movie can't make money why would I give you more money for a more riskier concept. And no junior executive will want to go out on a limb for a guy to get him the movie. Complacency in Hollywood is everything.

P.s.-I hope grown ups 2 makes negative money also, those movies insult my intelligence just by being allowed into my local Cinemark!!
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9:54AM on 06/28/2013
"Nolan doesn't need to scrape for money...in the far future." Now that's just overselling what Nolan has done.
"Nolan doesn't need to scrape for money...in the far future." Now that's just overselling what Nolan has done.
10:03AM on 06/28/2013
The "Mountains" movie is over with, at least Del Toro's version of it, and it has been for awhile. Its' ending was to similar to Prometheus' ending.


Also, I'm concerned that you might be stupid.
The "Mountains" movie is over with, at least Del Toro's version of it, and it has been for awhile. Its' ending was to similar to Prometheus' ending.


Also, I'm concerned that you might be stupid.
10:09AM on 06/28/2013
I'm not overselling Nolan, Look at Francis Ford Coppala. I'm not a huge fan of Nolan by my stretch but I'm a fan if his business savvy. When I say look at Francis Ford Coppala I mean think about the last time he made a successful profitable mainstream movie? He has/was riding the wave of success off of the Godfather movies......well part one and two, you could even throw in Apocalypse Now if you wanted. FFC even said to an extent after the huge success of The Godfather "I dont have worry about
I'm not overselling Nolan, Look at Francis Ford Coppala. I'm not a huge fan of Nolan by my stretch but I'm a fan if his business savvy. When I say look at Francis Ford Coppala I mean think about the last time he made a successful profitable mainstream movie? He has/was riding the wave of success off of the Godfather movies......well part one and two, you could even throw in Apocalypse Now if you wanted. FFC even said to an extent after the huge success of The Godfather "I dont have worry about making another great movie for 20 years". He wrote his own cheque with that movie. Nolan did with the batman movies.
9:06AM on 06/28/2013
This movie can't come out soon enough. Will be there opening night.
This movie can't come out soon enough. Will be there opening night.
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8:47AM on 06/28/2013
They should do a few free pre-screenings in major cities, and let word of mouth help sell this film before it is released. This has worked very well in the past, especially if the movie is actually good.
They should do a few free pre-screenings in major cities, and let word of mouth help sell this film before it is released. This has worked very well in the past, especially if the movie is actually good.
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8:25AM on 06/28/2013

Reason for concern

Del Toro is completely right on this, as horrible as it looks, Grown Ups 2 is going to make a load of cash and unfortunately there are enough dumb people out there that'll choose it over Pacific Rim. I'm hoping I'm wrong and this movie will gross 80-100 mill opening weekend, while Grown Ups grosses negative 189 dollars, but chances are I'm wrong.
Speaking of dumb people, is anyone else coming across other movie goers thinking this looks like a poor man's version of Transformers?
Del Toro is completely right on this, as horrible as it looks, Grown Ups 2 is going to make a load of cash and unfortunately there are enough dumb people out there that'll choose it over Pacific Rim. I'm hoping I'm wrong and this movie will gross 80-100 mill opening weekend, while Grown Ups grosses negative 189 dollars, but chances are I'm wrong.
Speaking of dumb people, is anyone else coming across other movie goers thinking this looks like a poor man's version of Transformers?
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8:42AM on 06/28/2013
This doesn't have half naked chicks and men who act like children so no the public isn't interested.
This doesn't have half naked chicks and men who act like children so no the public isn't interested.
10:05AM on 06/28/2013
Transformers comes across as a poor mans Pacific Rim.
Transformers comes across as a poor mans Pacific Rim.
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8:23AM on 06/28/2013

I can't wait to see this

I wasn't too into it at first, but it was really the third trailer that sold me. Here's hoping that the feel of the movie matches that of the third trailer, lol!
I wasn't too into it at first, but it was really the third trailer that sold me. Here's hoping that the feel of the movie matches that of the third trailer, lol!
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8:15AM on 06/28/2013
"What? People want to see Grown-Ups 2 instead? Ron Perlman and I will be in that rocket ship over there. *leaves Earth*"
"What? People want to see Grown-Ups 2 instead? Ron Perlman and I will be in that rocket ship over there. *leaves Earth*"
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8:11AM on 06/28/2013
Fuck em' G, I know where I'll be that weekend.
Fuck em' G, I know where I'll be that weekend.
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