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Review: Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides

May. 19, 2011by: Chris Bumbray


PLOT: Captain Jack Sparrow (Johnny Depp) is forced by a former flame, Angelica (Penelope Cruz) and her dreaded pirate father, Blackbeard (Ian McShane) to guide them to the mythical fountain of youth. Along the way, they're pursued by Sparrow's old nemesis, Barbossa (Geoffrey Rush), who's now in the employ of the English monarchy.

REVIEW: Here we go again...

Seriously folks, is there anyone out there that was chomping at the bit for another PIRATES after AT WORLD'S END came out four years ago? Granted, the first installment of the series was a fun frolic on the high seas, boosted by a tremendously charismatic star turn from Johnny Depp, which in turn made him a full-on superstar, and got him a well-deserved Oscar nomination. But the sequels? Sure, they made money, but did anyone even like DEAD MAN'S CHEST or AT WORLD'S END? I sure didn't, and by the time the credits rolled on the last film, I was totally done with Jack Sparrow and crew.


Alas, Jack Sparrow was not done with me- as there was still money to be made, no matter how bad the last two films were.

Still, I hoped that the fourth installment might be a rebound for the once entertaining series, more in line with the first film than parts 2 and 3. Alas, that was not to be, as everything that was wrong with those films is here too, only more-so. Messy, unfocused storyline? Check. Boring action scenes? Check. Over-length? Check. Jack Sparrow being sidelined in his own movie? Check.

Let's start with the storyline. Obviously, some effort has been made to scale back on the scope of the films, with the lower-key Rob Marshall taking over for the lavish Gore Verbinski, and the story being far more bottled up. The thing is, where do you go when the last installment had your hero rise from the dead, and featured a climax that literally took place at the end of the world? Comparatively, a search for the fountain of youth seems boring, although it could have worked if the screenplay by Ted Elliot and Terry Rossio had been less by the numbers, and the direction a little less by rote.


To be fair, the first twenty minutes of ON STRANGER TIDES aren't bad at all, culminating in an energetic chase through London, which is really the film's only halfway decent action scene. From there it's all down hill, with us spending most of the next two hours watching our heroes trek through the jungle at nighttime, with the the occasional cut to Barbarossa baring down on the crew on-board a ship of his own. It's all very boring, and I'm not exaggerating when I say I almost fell asleep twice during the incredibly draggy midsection.

As bored as I was, director Marshall and Depp seem ever more so. I'm not a huge fan of Marshall's (I thought CHICAGO was over-rated, and I loathed NINE), but I hoped he'd bring a bit of pizazz to the series. Sadly, this seems to have been a paycheck gig through-and-through, and that comes across on-screen. At least Gore Verbinski seemed to be trying to make a good movie. Here, Marshall's just coasting, and the same goes for Depp, who does the same old-shtick.

That said, I can't really blame him, as it's amazing how marginalized the character is in this installment. If it wasn't for Penelope Cruz as his marginal love interest (bringing a little much needed sex appeal now that Keira Knightley's gone), he'd have almost no role at all. The ending is a particular shock, as the big Mano-a-Mano showdown actually goes to Geoffrey Rush, who, along with a solid Ian McShane as Blackbeard, seems to be the only one who actually gives a damn about making a good movie. I love Depp, but between this and THE TOURIST, I'm amazed at how much he's phoning it in these days. The only time he seems to be having fun is during the tacked-on Keith Richards cameo- which happens early.


And the length! Good Lord, why did it have to be 141 minutes? In the old Errol Flynn pirate films, they could tell an epic story in two hours flat. This could have easily been done in 100 minutes, considering the reduced scope of the film. It's incredible how many extraneous subplots are packed into the the film to give it this length, with the saccharine love story between Sam Claffin's Reverend McSix-Pack, and Astrid Berges-Frisbey mermaid being something that could have easily been totally excised from the film, without anyone knowing. I suppose this was an effort to pull in a younger, teenage audience, but wasn't that why Orlando Bloom and Keira Knightley were in the first two? You ditch them, but then you bring in virtual clones, and give them nothing to do? What's the point?

Of course, the whole thing's in 3D, and to be fair, this is probably the best 3D I've seen in a while, although it doesn't particularly add to the film. Marshall doesn't seem to be enough of a visual stylist to really make it work, and considering 80% of it takes place at night, you'll have a hard time making out a lot of the action.

It's too bad ON STRANGER TIDES is such a miserable end to the franchise, if in fact it is the end. I suppose that all depends on how much money it makes. I have no doubt it'll open big, but if the lukewarm reaction this received at the promo screening is any judge, word of mouth is going to be poison. Stay home and rent CAPTAIN BLOOD or THE SEA HAWK instead, and enjoy a real pirate movie (heck, even NATE & HAYES would do better than this).

Source: JoBlo.com

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7:39AM on 05/19/2011
I actually dug DEAD MAN'S CHEST more than the original. Never managed to get past the 10 minute mark with AT WORLD'S END though. I didn't see that one, won't see this one. My pirate trip is done!
I actually dug DEAD MAN'S CHEST more than the original. Never managed to get past the 10 minute mark with AT WORLD'S END though. I didn't see that one, won't see this one. My pirate trip is done!
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7:48AM on 05/19/2011
DAMN IT!!! I actually enjoyed the first 3 films. I know 2&3 have some problems, but I can look past them; well except for maybe Davy Jones' locker & giant Calypso. I was (still am) hoping to get a fun summer adventure with the cool Fountain of Youth premise. I'd feel better going in if you gave it a 5 or 6, but I have hope.
DAMN IT!!! I actually enjoyed the first 3 films. I know 2&3 have some problems, but I can look past them; well except for maybe Davy Jones' locker & giant Calypso. I was (still am) hoping to get a fun summer adventure with the cool Fountain of Youth premise. I'd feel better going in if you gave it a 5 or 6, but I have hope.
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7:52AM on 05/19/2011
I'd rate it a 6.5
I'd rate it a 6.5
7:51AM on 05/19/2011

Saw this last night...

It's not quite the terrible mess that some sources are making out but I have to agree with the pay-day comments. It's got the odd moment here and there (the final scene of Cruz and Depp is the best in the film) but overall it's another retread of what you've already seen 3 times before.
And why does everybody hate on Dead Man's Chest? It was as good as the first movie, At World's End was the big f-up/let down.
It's not quite the terrible mess that some sources are making out but I have to agree with the pay-day comments. It's got the odd moment here and there (the final scene of Cruz and Depp is the best in the film) but overall it's another retread of what you've already seen 3 times before.
And why does everybody hate on Dead Man's Chest? It was as good as the first movie, At World's End was the big f-up/let down.
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8:00AM on 05/19/2011
One name gets me in that seat...Blackbeard. I knew who he was before George Washington,Columbus...Hes one of those things I seem to have always known
One name gets me in that seat...Blackbeard. I knew who he was before George Washington,Columbus...Hes one of those things I seem to have always known
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8:07AM on 05/19/2011
I'm afraid I can't accept a review from someone who hated the idea of the film before even going into it.
I'm afraid I can't accept a review from someone who hated the idea of the film before even going into it.
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8:29AM on 05/19/2011

pirates 4

Honestly after reading this entire critique I have no real interest in what he actually has to say. i loved the first 3 pirates movies. and yes i had no issue with any part. because unlike like most i'm not going in prejudging saying it should be this. it should have this, it shouldn't be that. f-that because that kinda attitude ruins movies. prejudgement is the dumbest idea ever. because, you don't actually enjoy what it is for what it was.
also another point i respect that he has the right
Honestly after reading this entire critique I have no real interest in what he actually has to say. i loved the first 3 pirates movies. and yes i had no issue with any part. because unlike like most i'm not going in prejudging saying it should be this. it should have this, it shouldn't be that. f-that because that kinda attitude ruins movies. prejudgement is the dumbest idea ever. because, you don't actually enjoy what it is for what it was.
also another point i respect that he has the right to to talk ill of the other works of the stars, and director. but i really enjoyed nine, chicago, and the tourist. they are different. and thats what i respect it seems that the bulk of movie audience scream "someting different" then when it happens they get all indignent "How dare they try something new" the hell with that, people need to stop listening to critics, because critics are paid to find flaws, i mean most critics usually start off with i don't like this kinda movie, but i went and watched this one.... come on seriously i wouldn't send a guy who loves action movies, to go see mysterious skin. not because its not good but because its not his taste.
i say you want to review make sure you like the style so you can judge on a more fair scale rather than pretending this show should be the king's speech. its not! its pirates looking for the fountain of youth if i get much more great if not then its what i expect and am glad.
finally having not seen this film and not really anticipating it, i now have more of an urge to watch it because a person who did not like the others did not like this one, stems to reason i may like it for the same reasons i liked the others. epic fighting, minor story. and tons of laughs.
OUT!!
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8:30AM on 05/19/2011
I think this signals the moment when the studio decides to revamp the property by sending Captain Sparrow into outer space.

We all know the space pirates are coming. It's only a matter of time.
I think this signals the moment when the studio decides to revamp the property by sending Captain Sparrow into outer space.

We all know the space pirates are coming. It's only a matter of time.
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9:03AM on 05/19/2011

Unpopular Opinion...

I loved the 3rd film.
I loved the 3rd film.
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9:14AM on 05/19/2011

Not one review has been accurate...

All the reviews I've read so far should have been boiled down to this:
"If you liked the other movies , this one is probably the best one, after the first.
If you didn't like them, this won't change your mind."
Personally I liked it a lot.
All the reviews I've read so far should have been boiled down to this:
"If you liked the other movies , this one is probably the best one, after the first.
If you didn't like them, this won't change your mind."
Personally I liked it a lot.
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9:23AM on 05/19/2011
Yep, pretty much agree. And whoever thought of shooting a 3D film, which we know takes away some of the brightness, where most of the film takes place at night, indoors, below deck or in a cave should be fired. They do a good job of lighting it, but why deliberately swim against the tide?
Yep, pretty much agree. And whoever thought of shooting a 3D film, which we know takes away some of the brightness, where most of the film takes place at night, indoors, below deck or in a cave should be fired. They do a good job of lighting it, but why deliberately swim against the tide?
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9:51AM on 05/19/2011
Oh good, another review from someone who didn't like the last two installments and wasn't looking forward to this one! I'm sure it'll be great!

If you have that kind of attitude going into the movie, why do they let you review them? Obviously you're not going to like it. It's a Pirates movie, and they're probably not going to mix up the "formula" too much...
Oh good, another review from someone who didn't like the last two installments and wasn't looking forward to this one! I'm sure it'll be great!

If you have that kind of attitude going into the movie, why do they let you review them? Obviously you're not going to like it. It's a Pirates movie, and they're probably not going to mix up the "formula" too much...
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10:02AM on 05/19/2011
Wow, a lot of contempt for the Pirates films flowing off the monitor here...I can see it floating around my office like the northern lights.
BTW, I liked the other 3 films, own them and enjoy watching them, so I'll assume I will enjoy this one as well. I won't see it if I can't find a 2D showing though. The other films didn't need it so I am sure this one didn't as well. It will suck if I have to wait for DVD but I refuse to give money to the moronic suits who are making EVERYTHING 3D at this
Wow, a lot of contempt for the Pirates films flowing off the monitor here...I can see it floating around my office like the northern lights.
BTW, I liked the other 3 films, own them and enjoy watching them, so I'll assume I will enjoy this one as well. I won't see it if I can't find a 2D showing though. The other films didn't need it so I am sure this one didn't as well. It will suck if I have to wait for DVD but I refuse to give money to the moronic suits who are making EVERYTHING 3D at this point.
Also, Chicago was awesome!
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10:08AM on 05/19/2011
ok we get it critics hate sequels cause its the same old..ya if your a fan of the series then you will love this one no matter what. Thats lazy writing in its own right & comparing it to the other films is just a cop out. Its so obvious when a critic is not even remotely interested in the film. Might as well cut & paste this review for the other sequels coming out this summer.
ok we get it critics hate sequels cause its the same old..ya if your a fan of the series then you will love this one no matter what. Thats lazy writing in its own right & comparing it to the other films is just a cop out. Its so obvious when a critic is not even remotely interested in the film. Might as well cut & paste this review for the other sequels coming out this summer.
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10:27AM on 05/19/2011

DEAD MANS CHEST!!!

Easily the best of the trilogy. Stop hatin and suckin the originals d#*k Chris Bumbray. Do you really believe the s%^t that comes out your mouth or are you one of those people that just like saying "The original is the best! The sequels suck!" We need to bring this to the attention of THE UNPOPULAR OPINION
Easily the best of the trilogy. Stop hatin and suckin the originals d#*k Chris Bumbray. Do you really believe the s%^t that comes out your mouth or are you one of those people that just like saying "The original is the best! The sequels suck!" We need to bring this to the attention of THE UNPOPULAR OPINION
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2:29PM on 05/19/2011
Wow....You're a sad human being.
Wow....You're a sad human being.
10:40AM on 05/19/2011
I LOVED Pirates 1, 2, & 3; have seen them SEVERAL times and have been VERY excited for this new installment.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but why not have someone who is a FAN of this series review the movie instead of someone who clearly was most likely not going to enjoy it?
I LOVED Pirates 1, 2, & 3; have seen them SEVERAL times and have been VERY excited for this new installment.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but why not have someone who is a FAN of this series review the movie instead of someone who clearly was most likely not going to enjoy it?
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11:09AM on 05/19/2011
I wouldn't have been a proper critic to review any of these Pirate movies. I fell asleep throughout the first one. I do agree that if you can't stand a franchise, don't review it (it's masochistic to submit yourself to movies you already hate). But sending a fan to review a movie brings in another problem; there's no way a review will be any good if it's written with pink-tinted glasses on. Send in someone with a fresh, unbiased perspective.
I wouldn't have been a proper critic to review any of these Pirate movies. I fell asleep throughout the first one. I do agree that if you can't stand a franchise, don't review it (it's masochistic to submit yourself to movies you already hate). But sending a fan to review a movie brings in another problem; there's no way a review will be any good if it's written with pink-tinted glasses on. Send in someone with a fresh, unbiased perspective.
10:43AM on 05/19/2011

Thank God

It finally seems your poor reviews have caught up to you. I am so sick of you hating a movie before you've even seen it. It is such irresponsible criticism. Fortunately it seems most people who respoded feel the same way.. For the LOVE OF GOD, please review a movie based on its individual merits, not based on your feeling about the director, actor, or previous installments!! I look forward to watching this movie and having my own unbiased opinion!
It finally seems your poor reviews have caught up to you. I am so sick of you hating a movie before you've even seen it. It is such irresponsible criticism. Fortunately it seems most people who respoded feel the same way.. For the LOVE OF GOD, please review a movie based on its individual merits, not based on your feeling about the director, actor, or previous installments!! I look forward to watching this movie and having my own unbiased opinion!
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11:54AM on 05/19/2011
If you want the opinion of someone who will suck this movies' dick, go to a site that the creators of the movie pay to write an outstanding review.
If you want the opinion of someone who will suck this movies' dick, go to a site that the creators of the movie pay to write an outstanding review.
11:41AM on 05/19/2011

agreed

First thing first, I loved the 3 POTC, even though the 3rd one could have been at least 20' shorter.
But I've got to agree with this critic.
The film is boring with LOTS of good ideas unexploited, and LOTS of incoherences.
But the WORST thing about this movie is that THIS IS NOT JACK SPARROW... In POTC4 his character is almost always doing the very opposite the Capt'n Jake we know and love would do... And THIS, I can't forgive !
First thing first, I loved the 3 POTC, even though the 3rd one could have been at least 20' shorter.
But I've got to agree with this critic.
The film is boring with LOTS of good ideas unexploited, and LOTS of incoherences.
But the WORST thing about this movie is that THIS IS NOT JACK SPARROW... In POTC4 his character is almost always doing the very opposite the Capt'n Jake we know and love would do... And THIS, I can't forgive !
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11:52AM on 05/19/2011
Heaven forbid a movie critic writes that he doesn't enjoy something. What do you people want exactly? If you don't agree with his opinion well, that's just your opinion man.
Heaven forbid a movie critic writes that he doesn't enjoy something. What do you people want exactly? If you don't agree with his opinion well, that's just your opinion man.
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11:58AM on 05/19/2011
Ok i was a fan of all three movies, and this movie does look pretty bland, but having someone review the fourth flick in the series who wasnt a fan of the series is just dumb. Obviously the fourth film is for people who like the franchise...why not have someone who enjoyed the franchise review it...
Ok i was a fan of all three movies, and this movie does look pretty bland, but having someone review the fourth flick in the series who wasnt a fan of the series is just dumb. Obviously the fourth film is for people who like the franchise...why not have someone who enjoyed the franchise review it...
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12:06PM on 05/19/2011
I completely agree. Whenever a review article starts out with "I've never been a fan" or "I hated the other movies" I just completely ignore the article.
I completely agree. Whenever a review article starts out with "I've never been a fan" or "I hated the other movies" I just completely ignore the article.
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12:09PM on 05/19/2011
I didn't realize there were people who actually liked the "Pirate" sequels until I read these strikebacks.

The original is fucking great, but the sequels were not. This is not the only bad review I've read for this film. Count me out.
I didn't realize there were people who actually liked the "Pirate" sequels until I read these strikebacks.

The original is fucking great, but the sequels were not. This is not the only bad review I've read for this film. Count me out.
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12:30PM on 05/19/2011
Loved the first, really enjoyed the second, and the third is a decent watch. By the trailers i expected this to be just ok so thats what im hoping for. I'm positive it will be better than 4/10 considering that is the same score you gave Cop Out.
Loved the first, really enjoyed the second, and the third is a decent watch. By the trailers i expected this to be just ok so thats what im hoping for. I'm positive it will be better than 4/10 considering that is the same score you gave Cop Out.
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12:38PM on 05/19/2011

I Loved Dead Man's Chest

But was bored and frustrated by At Worlds End. This was a chance to redeem the series. They need a good script and director. Seems they have neither.
But was bored and frustrated by At Worlds End. This was a chance to redeem the series. They need a good script and director. Seems they have neither.
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12:41PM on 05/19/2011

Parts 2 & 3 are good.

People seemed to not like the sequels because of the hard to follow plots. I too didn't care for the films after my first viewing. However, you really need to watch these films a second, and maybe third, time fully grasp everything that is going on. Once you do that, I think you will realize that as a trilogy, it is actually a pretty fun ride overall. I'm definitely checking out this new installment.

Plus, I rarely ever agree with Chris Bumbray anyway.
People seemed to not like the sequels because of the hard to follow plots. I too didn't care for the films after my first viewing. However, you really need to watch these films a second, and maybe third, time fully grasp everything that is going on. Once you do that, I think you will realize that as a trilogy, it is actually a pretty fun ride overall. I'm definitely checking out this new installment.

Plus, I rarely ever agree with Chris Bumbray anyway.
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12:48PM on 05/19/2011

Hey, I liked it!

I enjoy reading reviews on JoBlo but this one really, really needs to be looked into. Seriously? It sounds like you already made up your mind months ago to hate this one. It didn't even stand a chance against your hate, and now it stands with a measly 4/10? I enjoyed it. I enjoyed Dead Man's Chest a LOT and I had fun at World's End. This one was a blast. Awesome characters, Jack Sparrow is as fun as always, Blackbeard is a badass, and it's just a ton of action-adventure fun and entertainment. I
I enjoy reading reviews on JoBlo but this one really, really needs to be looked into. Seriously? It sounds like you already made up your mind months ago to hate this one. It didn't even stand a chance against your hate, and now it stands with a measly 4/10? I enjoyed it. I enjoyed Dead Man's Chest a LOT and I had fun at World's End. This one was a blast. Awesome characters, Jack Sparrow is as fun as always, Blackbeard is a badass, and it's just a ton of action-adventure fun and entertainment. I guess people who are able to sit back, relax, and enjoy a movie for what it's worth will find POTC4 very likable, as opposed to people who have a predetermined mindset that the sequels have absolutely no chance of even being decent.
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4:54AM on 05/21/2011
Oh--kay. Lets just agree to disagree, dude. You have some valid points, I get what you're saying, but I'm gonna' stand by my opinion that reviewers have a certain responsibility towards their readers to be unbiased. Yes, I get the term "subjective" and I have no problems whatsoever with people disagreeing with me on my tastes or personal interests, but to me JoBlo is a major platform for movie news and movie fans online. They've been quoted on DVD sleeves (and that's big) so to me, that gives
Oh--kay. Lets just agree to disagree, dude. You have some valid points, I get what you're saying, but I'm gonna' stand by my opinion that reviewers have a certain responsibility towards their readers to be unbiased. Yes, I get the term "subjective" and I have no problems whatsoever with people disagreeing with me on my tastes or personal interests, but to me JoBlo is a major platform for movie news and movie fans online. They've been quoted on DVD sleeves (and that's big) so to me, that gives them the responsibility to review movies based on the film's merit a bit more than their personal opinions, but not devoid of. Get what I'm saying? If Chris hates it, that's fine. The ONLY thing that bothered me at first was the fact that he pictures how bored he was even going into POTC4. To me, personally, that sounded a lil' unfair.

Now if you'll excuse me, I've got some pro-wrestling to watch. ;)
11:53AM on 05/20/2011
Calm down, little guy. And then grow up.

So now Chris didn't do his job, and I didn't read the review or your post. It's like you can't reconcile differences of opinion as being subjective - so you are externalizing the blame on everybody else who dares to disagree with you.

When movies make hundreds of millions of dollars by their franchise status - yes, they deserve to be judged not only on their own merits, but are they simply recycling old installments. In fact, that's a criticism
Calm down, little guy. And then grow up.

So now Chris didn't do his job, and I didn't read the review or your post. It's like you can't reconcile differences of opinion as being subjective - so you are externalizing the blame on everybody else who dares to disagree with you.

When movies make hundreds of millions of dollars by their franchise status - yes, they deserve to be judged not only on their own merits, but are they simply recycling old installments. In fact, that's a criticism that is exclusively available to sequels, prequels, reboots, etc. Roger Ebert wrote a much better review, and he also mentions it pretty quickly. Is the movie treading water. If a reviewer didn't like earlier installments - I appreciate knowing that, because it allows me to infer a certain amount of bias, and informs the review if the movie was better and helped changed the reviewer's mind, or cemented the same problems. I'd say that can extend to predisposed feelings towards Directors, lead actors and screenwriters.

Not sharing the opinion of the review - that's cool. Suggesting the review is something to be looked into is childish.

You may know "entertaining", but seeing as you find professional wrestling entertaining - you've proven that the definition of what makes something entertaining is subjective. It would be cool if you could calm down, stop sweating, and learn to know "subjective" as well as you know "entertaining."
11:15PM on 05/19/2011
I need to grow up? How bout you learn how to read before turning into Defender Of The Universe, dude? Listen, I dig Chris' reviews 99% of the time. He's pretty good, no doubt there. What I clearly stated was he had a predetermined negative perspective on this entire franchise even before giving this one a chance. Don't believe me? READ the review again. It's like someone who hates Twilight and goes on to bash every movie in the series before even watching them. I hate Twilight, but if I was a
I need to grow up? How bout you learn how to read before turning into Defender Of The Universe, dude? Listen, I dig Chris' reviews 99% of the time. He's pretty good, no doubt there. What I clearly stated was he had a predetermined negative perspective on this entire franchise even before giving this one a chance. Don't believe me? READ the review again. It's like someone who hates Twilight and goes on to bash every movie in the series before even watching them. I hate Twilight, but if I was a reviewer I'd at least try to look at the installments from a neutral standpoint and as standalone movies. And I don't enjoy crap movies. I didn't even enjoy Thor as much as almost everyone else, so I have my tastes and standards. But I know "entertaining" when I see it, and POTC4 is definitely entertaining.
4:46PM on 05/19/2011
You seriously need to grow up. You and the reviewer saw the same thing, and he wasn't satisfied with something you found immensely entertaining. So the logical conclusion for you is that he's being derelict in his duties as a reviewer, and it should be looked into? How about I say you review sounds like somebody who's easily impressed, and probably can sit back and enjoy tons of crap movies - because you can enjoy crap "for what it's worth."

If you enjoyed it, fine - but have the balls to
You seriously need to grow up. You and the reviewer saw the same thing, and he wasn't satisfied with something you found immensely entertaining. So the logical conclusion for you is that he's being derelict in his duties as a reviewer, and it should be looked into? How about I say you review sounds like somebody who's easily impressed, and probably can sit back and enjoy tons of crap movies - because you can enjoy crap "for what it's worth."

If you enjoyed it, fine - but have the balls to accept when others disagree with you.
1:03PM on 05/19/2011
Look, I really dig Bumbary's reviews. In fact, I think that I trust him more than any other critic on the net. He's well-rounded and always gives a fair write-up on the film in hand, and more times then not I agree with him. You're getting pissed at him for wanting to be more like the first, and not liking the 2nd and 3rd as much.. really? Isn't that the majority of the people who've seen the trilogy?

I'll take this review into account but also wait on word of mouth from MFC and some
Look, I really dig Bumbary's reviews. In fact, I think that I trust him more than any other critic on the net. He's well-rounded and always gives a fair write-up on the film in hand, and more times then not I agree with him. You're getting pissed at him for wanting to be more like the first, and not liking the 2nd and 3rd as much.. really? Isn't that the majority of the people who've seen the trilogy?

I'll take this review into account but also wait on word of mouth from MFC and some people I know before I decide to see it. We need to relax with the bashing right now.. it's one man's opinion.
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1:23PM on 05/19/2011
The posters on here that disagree with Chris Bumbray delve to deep into his review. They say the reason he didn't like it is because he said he wasn't looking forward to it. That he didn't give it a shot. You all act like you know so much. He was just sharing HIS opinion.......
The posters on here that disagree with Chris Bumbray delve to deep into his review. They say the reason he didn't like it is because he said he wasn't looking forward to it. That he didn't give it a shot. You all act like you know so much. He was just sharing HIS opinion.......
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1:52PM on 05/19/2011
I imagine I'll be more focused on quoting Al Swearengen whenever Blackbeard is on screen than actually paying attention for the 5 hour run time or whatever it is this time.
I imagine I'll be more focused on quoting Al Swearengen whenever Blackbeard is on screen than actually paying attention for the 5 hour run time or whatever it is this time.
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2:06PM on 05/19/2011
Yeah, Everytime I heard McShane, I hear Al Swearengen.
Yeah, Everytime I heard McShane, I hear Al Swearengen.
2:01PM on 05/19/2011
The trailer already looked terrible for this. Devoid of energy and no visual flare without Gore Verbinski, of all the available directors was Rob Marshall truly the best to go with?

Either way, the only Pirates film I enjoyed was Dead Man's Chest. The other two were so terribly tedious that I'm yet to see either without passing out.
I think I'll give it a miss.
@RonnySinatra
The trailer already looked terrible for this. Devoid of energy and no visual flare without Gore Verbinski, of all the available directors was Rob Marshall truly the best to go with?

Either way, the only Pirates film I enjoyed was Dead Man's Chest. The other two were so terribly tedious that I'm yet to see either without passing out.
I think I'll give it a miss.
@RonnySinatra
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5:39PM on 05/20/2011
Sweet twitter plug.
Sweet twitter plug.
9:39AM on 05/20/2011
I'm with u.. Never liked the original and I thought the third one was just weird. And this one looks meh
I'm with u.. Never liked the original and I thought the third one was just weird. And this one looks meh
2:12PM on 05/19/2011

There are many reasons the StrikeBack section is here.

If people choose to use it to bash the reviewer (whether they have valid reasons or not), then they have every right.
If people choose to use it to bash the reviewer (whether they have valid reasons or not), then they have every right.
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6:33PM on 05/19/2011
philalva77....Yes you did. You did insult the reviewer because you said, "This review is very poorly written......". You did explain why, but that doesn't make what you said no longer an insult.
philalva77....Yes you did. You did insult the reviewer because you said, "This review is very poorly written......". You did explain why, but that doesn't make what you said no longer an insult.
5:00PM on 05/19/2011
People can use the StrikeBack, but they also have to accept that the "post reply" button is there for a reason. I don't need to bash anybody - but if you make a boneheaded statement, be prepared for other people to call you out on it. I always am.
People can use the StrikeBack, but they also have to accept that the "post reply" button is there for a reason. I don't need to bash anybody - but if you make a boneheaded statement, be prepared for other people to call you out on it. I always am.
4:41PM on 05/19/2011
well in my defense i did not insult the reviewer on the subject, its just my opinion the way it was written, i enjoy all the writers on this site. People need to realize the difference between an opinion & just straight up bashing.
well in my defense i did not insult the reviewer on the subject, its just my opinion the way it was written, i enjoy all the writers on this site. People need to realize the difference between an opinion & just straight up bashing.
3:56PM on 05/19/2011
My apologies. I, like many others most likely, don't take the time to read the rules and guidelines. Although, I personally wasn't bashing Bumbray, I simply stated that I typically don't agree with him.
My apologies. I, like many others most likely, don't take the time to read the rules and guidelines. Although, I personally wasn't bashing Bumbray, I simply stated that I typically don't agree with him.
3:24PM on 05/19/2011
I tried to be there for Chris Bumbray, JoBlo. What many posters were saying on here was just sad and pathetic.
I tried to be there for Chris Bumbray, JoBlo. What many posters were saying on here was just sad and pathetic.
3:03PM on 05/19/2011
Well, that's not entirely true. If you read our RULES/GUIDELINES, they clearly state: "- NO INSULTS toward any writers on our site or any other person posting messages to our site will be tolerated and will result in an immediate BAN from our site and a deletion of all your previous posts. Basically, don't be a jerk-off and everything will be alright."
Well, that's not entirely true. If you read our RULES/GUIDELINES, they clearly state: "- NO INSULTS toward any writers on our site or any other person posting messages to our site will be tolerated and will result in an immediate BAN from our site and a deletion of all your previous posts. Basically, don't be a jerk-off and everything will be alright."
2:26PM on 05/19/2011
Posters are mainly bashing Chris Bumbray's opinion. None of the posters have said ANYTHING else about the review other than the rating of the film and his final opinion of it.....That's just sad and pathetic.
Posters are mainly bashing Chris Bumbray's opinion. None of the posters have said ANYTHING else about the review other than the rating of the film and his final opinion of it.....That's just sad and pathetic.
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3:50PM on 05/19/2011

Wow

What's up with all the reviewer hate? I've yet to see the flick, but have a like mindset going into it. Thought the first flick was the best and the other two kind of meh. I'm still going to go see this flick, but thanks to Mr. Bumbray's review, my expectations are lowered. I'll probably end up enjoying the movie more because of that instead of just thinking about wasted potential.
If you don't agree with a reviewer's opinion, that's one thing, but you can't really trash it and not sound like
What's up with all the reviewer hate? I've yet to see the flick, but have a like mindset going into it. Thought the first flick was the best and the other two kind of meh. I'm still going to go see this flick, but thanks to Mr. Bumbray's review, my expectations are lowered. I'll probably end up enjoying the movie more because of that instead of just thinking about wasted potential.
If you don't agree with a reviewer's opinion, that's one thing, but you can't really trash it and not sound like a bit of a douche bag.
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5:17PM on 05/19/2011
Because the movie is shit. Simple as that Rizzle. It's like the other 3. Boring and snooze inducing. The lame ass trailer showed the same footage over and over and over again. The TV spots ever showed the same footage. It got to a point where I started laughing at how bad it was. You have a 141 min film show some new stuff. Also like to mention, I wasn't a fan of the first I saw the midnight showing and fell a sleep, not because I was tired. I was bored. There was so much stupid talk and no
Because the movie is shit. Simple as that Rizzle. It's like the other 3. Boring and snooze inducing. The lame ass trailer showed the same footage over and over and over again. The TV spots ever showed the same footage. It got to a point where I started laughing at how bad it was. You have a 141 min film show some new stuff. Also like to mention, I wasn't a fan of the first I saw the midnight showing and fell a sleep, not because I was tired. I was bored. There was so much stupid talk and no action.
5:03PM on 05/19/2011
"but thanks to Mr. Bumbray's review, my expectations are lowered" That's what all the hate is about. People get really defensive when something they like is being put into jeopardy. What's even more sad - often times the reaction is stronger when people haven't even seen the film yet, and they feel like something they are still looking forward to is being threatened. My advice to people who have a propensity to spontaneously combust at the sight of a negative review aimed at a film they are
"but thanks to Mr. Bumbray's review, my expectations are lowered" That's what all the hate is about. People get really defensive when something they like is being put into jeopardy. What's even more sad - often times the reaction is stronger when people haven't even seen the film yet, and they feel like something they are still looking forward to is being threatened. My advice to people who have a propensity to spontaneously combust at the sight of a negative review aimed at a film they are anticipating? Avoid the reviews until you've had a chance to see the film. Just like people who can't handle spoilers.
4:16PM on 05/19/2011

Entertaining and Fun

This film is very enjoyable. The mermaid sequence is one of the best of any of the Pirates films. It's on par with the rest of the series, which I'm a fan of for their summer entertainment value.
This film is very enjoyable. The mermaid sequence is one of the best of any of the Pirates films. It's on par with the rest of the series, which I'm a fan of for their summer entertainment value.
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4:25PM on 05/19/2011
The whole point of a movie review persay is to critique the movie in general, is the plot good, the f/x, the acting, the direction, even the music. This review is very poorly written in that its voicing an opinion on the actors & the director. Theres a full paragrah alone mentioning the fact he is not a fan of Marshall's past films, wtf does that have to do with the film? It's a insult to mention Depp phoning in a role & doing it just for the money, we all know Depp is one of the most generous
The whole point of a movie review persay is to critique the movie in general, is the plot good, the f/x, the acting, the direction, even the music. This review is very poorly written in that its voicing an opinion on the actors & the director. Theres a full paragrah alone mentioning the fact he is not a fan of Marshall's past films, wtf does that have to do with the film? It's a insult to mention Depp phoning in a role & doing it just for the money, we all know Depp is one of the most generous & giving actors out there, he clearly loves this role, this is to him what Wolverine is to Hugh Jackman. Next time stick to simply the film at hand and nothing more.
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5:47PM on 05/19/2011
of course i have not seen the film yet & yes i am a fan of the first 3 films but i dont really let any review decide whether or not i want to see a film or not.
of course i have not seen the film yet & yes i am a fan of the first 3 films but i dont really let any review decide whether or not i want to see a film or not.
5:14PM on 05/19/2011
Sure it wasn't a great review. But he's 100 percent right. The director is terrible. And johnny depp is getting old in this part. The movie blew from the start and it will never be good. Theres never any action. Just some lame ass sword play, in which me and my friends can act out better with tissue rolls.
Sure it wasn't a great review. But he's 100 percent right. The director is terrible. And johnny depp is getting old in this part. The movie blew from the start and it will never be good. Theres never any action. Just some lame ass sword play, in which me and my friends can act out better with tissue rolls.
4:54PM on 05/19/2011
The review wasn't stellar in terms of construction - but it reads like Shakespeare in comparison to your critique. He's not supposed to voice his opinion if it appears that Depp is phoning it in? That's an absurd statement. Considering you lambasted the inclusion of Marshall's other work in the review, it's hypocritical of you to point to your feelings about Depp and his generosity in the industry. Shouldn't you be sticking to his performance in this specific movie?

I don't have a
The review wasn't stellar in terms of construction - but it reads like Shakespeare in comparison to your critique. He's not supposed to voice his opinion if it appears that Depp is phoning it in? That's an absurd statement. Considering you lambasted the inclusion of Marshall's other work in the review, it's hypocritical of you to point to your feelings about Depp and his generosity in the industry. Shouldn't you be sticking to his performance in this specific movie?

I don't have a problem with people liking this movie, or loving it - I could care less how people feel about this PG-13 kiddie swashbuckling franchise. My problem is when people just can't accept a review or the reviewer, and try to somehow delegitimize the review, in order to validate their own opinion.

You've also not made one comment to suggest you've actually seen this movie yourself - so it sounds like your bloviating is simply based on a fondness for the franchise, and some man-crush you have on Depp and Jackman.
5:11PM on 05/19/2011

Thank god..

This movie looked like utter crap. Actually all the pirates movies were. There all boring. There all yawn inducing nothing ever happens. It's johnny depp for 2 plus hours acting like a drunk. Some lame ass sword play. And thats about it.
This movie looked like utter crap. Actually all the pirates movies were. There all boring. There all yawn inducing nothing ever happens. It's johnny depp for 2 plus hours acting like a drunk. Some lame ass sword play. And thats about it.
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10:18PM on 05/19/2011
It's They're! Not their or there.. That just drives me nuts!!
It's They're! Not their or there.. That just drives me nuts!!
6:32PM on 05/19/2011
Guess I won't be seeing this.
Guess I won't be seeing this.
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+5
7:33PM on 05/19/2011
Does that mean that if I enjoyed the entire trilogy I will enjoy this one? Cause I did enjoy the entire trilogy, and if this is much of the same, then I anticipate that I will enjoy it as a piece of summer entertainment, much in the same way I enjoyed Fast Five. I don't mind that the Chris didn't enjoy the film, it has done pretty poorly on RT so far. But this seems to be a fairly biased review. He didn't like the last two films, he didn't think this was a film that was 'necessary', so to speak
Does that mean that if I enjoyed the entire trilogy I will enjoy this one? Cause I did enjoy the entire trilogy, and if this is much of the same, then I anticipate that I will enjoy it as a piece of summer entertainment, much in the same way I enjoyed Fast Five. I don't mind that the Chris didn't enjoy the film, it has done pretty poorly on RT so far. But this seems to be a fairly biased review. He didn't like the last two films, he didn't think this was a film that was 'necessary', so to speak (as if any film is), and the whole review gives off a general tone of just having been written before the movie was even seen. Seriously, I don't even buy the fact that you wanted this to be good. I'm not trying to insult you as a reviewer, but it just seems like this was fairly biased going in.

All I want to know, really, is, if I enjoyed the films that came before it, will I enjoy this one? And so far, this review hasn't answered my question in the slightest.
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11:31PM on 05/19/2011
Yes, if you enjoyed the entire trilogy, you will most likely enjoy this one as well. Some things are lacking, like Gore Verbinski's scenic visuals and "wider" landscape cinematography, but story-wise it's pretty cool. I think your way of watching movies is the best way. "Piece of summer entertainment". That's exactly what POTC4 is, and if you go in expecting nothing else, you'll have a blast. That's not to say it's bad and enjoyable with lowered expectations, just that it's a PG13 [link] film,
Yes, if you enjoyed the entire trilogy, you will most likely enjoy this one as well. Some things are lacking, like Gore Verbinski's scenic visuals and "wider" landscape cinematography, but story-wise it's pretty cool. I think your way of watching movies is the best way. "Piece of summer entertainment". That's exactly what POTC4 is, and if you go in expecting nothing else, you'll have a blast. That's not to say it's bad and enjoyable with lowered expectations, just that it's a PG13 [link] film, so anyone who doesn't expect The Dark Knight has a better chance of liking it. I enjoyed it, a lot.
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10:46PM on 05/19/2011
Saw it on Monday. Though I agree with you on some points, I didn't hate it nearly as much as you seemed to. Still couldn't recommend it though. Here's the full review:

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Saw it on Monday. Though I agree with you on some points, I didn't hate it nearly as much as you seemed to. Still couldn't recommend it though. Here's the full review:

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3:48AM on 05/20/2011

Loved it.

This review was utter garbage. I enjoyed the movie and the mermaid sequence was FANTASTIC. This movie was miles better than the 3rd one (which I still liked) and I'd would say it was better than the second one but falls short of the first one. Not too shabby if you ask me. If you are a fan of the trilogy than you will enjoy this one.
This review was utter garbage. I enjoyed the movie and the mermaid sequence was FANTASTIC. This movie was miles better than the 3rd one (which I still liked) and I'd would say it was better than the second one but falls short of the first one. Not too shabby if you ask me. If you are a fan of the trilogy than you will enjoy this one.
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11:07AM on 05/20/2011
When it comes to a long running Film series,it's usually a love/hate thing,not too many in the middle. I luv the series first 3 installments,I'll see this one tonight or Saturday night.
When it comes to a long running Film series,it's usually a love/hate thing,not too many in the middle. I luv the series first 3 installments,I'll see this one tonight or Saturday night.
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2:43PM on 05/20/2011
Didn't hate it as much as this reviewer but, do agree with a lot of the points. Definitely needed more energy and a good twenty minutes trimmed out.
Didn't hate it as much as this reviewer but, do agree with a lot of the points. Definitely needed more energy and a good twenty minutes trimmed out.
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2:47PM on 05/20/2011
...is this a review or a long nerdy bitch fest on a forum? You do know that you're required to actually review the film so that those reading are able to make an informed decision over whether to go or not, right? All you did was throw it in everyone's face that you hate the film and franchise and go off on random tangents that leave me knowing nothing about the movie. It's supposed to be about the movie, not you.
...is this a review or a long nerdy bitch fest on a forum? You do know that you're required to actually review the film so that those reading are able to make an informed decision over whether to go or not, right? All you did was throw it in everyone's face that you hate the film and franchise and go off on random tangents that leave me knowing nothing about the movie. It's supposed to be about the movie, not you.
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3:19PM on 05/20/2011
I saw it last night and liked it. If you liked the others, you'll like this one. Its as simple as that. I also saw it in Dolby 3D in a theater that projects 3D films properly. It was the best 3D I've seen since "Avatar". I think it had something to do mostly with the Dolby 3D system. It is much brighter, more detailed with more vivid colors. Anyway. I guess I have hope for 3D.
I saw it last night and liked it. If you liked the others, you'll like this one. Its as simple as that. I also saw it in Dolby 3D in a theater that projects 3D films properly. It was the best 3D I've seen since "Avatar". I think it had something to do mostly with the Dolby 3D system. It is much brighter, more detailed with more vivid colors. Anyway. I guess I have hope for 3D.
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5:34PM on 05/20/2011

Not surprised at all

Johnny Depp hasn't made a good movie since the first Pirates/Finding Neverland. PLEASE prove me wrong.
Johnny Depp hasn't made a good movie since the first Pirates/Finding Neverland. PLEASE prove me wrong.
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12:08PM on 05/21/2011
We should be able to prove you wrong, but sadly we can't. Proving an OPINION wrong is so very easy.......
We should be able to prove you wrong, but sadly we can't. Proving an OPINION wrong is so very easy.......
3:33AM on 05/21/2011

Every one's a critic.

You know, I respect the fact that every one has their own opinion. Therefor I am not going to bash the critic. However I would like to bash all the nay sayers who haven't even watched it. Was it my favorite? Absolutely not. Yet it was fun and very entertaining. Did I notice the change in direction? No, everything still seemed to spill in as much as the others. This is also the first 3D film I seen that wasn't a chore to watch. Not to mention I haven't been in a showing in a long time
You know, I respect the fact that every one has their own opinion. Therefor I am not going to bash the critic. However I would like to bash all the nay sayers who haven't even watched it. Was it my favorite? Absolutely not. Yet it was fun and very entertaining. Did I notice the change in direction? No, everything still seemed to spill in as much as the others. This is also the first 3D film I seen that wasn't a chore to watch. Not to mention I haven't been in a showing in a long time where a crowd showed they were having so much fun. It's hard to believe a decent summer popcorn flick is getting so much back flack when things like Piranha 3D are loved. POTC4 was exactly achieved what it set out to do. Last time I checked, that is exactly what a franchise should do for it's fans.
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10:08AM on 05/23/2011

On the Ball with this review!

Dude Chris, everything you said is exactly how I felt about this film.
Dude Chris, everything you said is exactly how I felt about this film.
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