Latest Entertainment News Headlines

Review: Suicide Squad (Paul Shirey's take)

Suicide Squad (Paul Shirey's take)
08.05.2016
0 10

Read Chris Bumbray's review HERE!

Since the first trailer dropped at Comic-Con a year ago, SUICIDE SQUAD has been on the radar of comic fans and non-fans alike. It was a risky move, taking a ragtag team of lesser-known characters in the DCEU zeitgeist and putting them together in their own tentpole superhero flick. Of course, this was pieced together before the tidal wave of division with BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE (my review of the Ultimate Cut HERE), the film that was meant to be the battle cry of the new DC Cinematic Universe. Once the tide went back out, all eyes turned to director David Ayer (END OF WATCH, FURY) to “save the day” with what appeared to be a more promising venture than the one WB was initially counting on to lead the charge.

And, now it’s here. You’ve no doubt already read a cavalcade of reviews, soaked in the aggregated percentages of opinions, and taken a deep breath, hoping that it’s not as bad as many are selling it to be. Well, from the perspective of a guy that’s been reading comics and watching movies like they were the bread of life for more than three decades, I can tell you simply: I loved it, unabashedly and with a genuine heart. The film delivered on so many levels for this fanboy that I left the theater perplexed at the negative backlash that’s seemed to pervade the interwebs over it. Worst of the summer? Did these guys see INDEPENDENCE DAY: RESURGENCE?

The film opens like the first issue of a comic, giving us a quick breakdown of the key characters in a stylistic rundown that makes ample use of the film’s excellent soundtrack (from new songs to old favorites) and intermingles characters and settings from within the DCEU, firmly establishing that this is a “universe” film. It’s something I really love about the direction of the DCEU so far, in that we’re entering a world with a rich and invested history, which plays far more akin to comic-book storytelling than anything. That may be an issue for some, but for others I think it will be one of the film’s better attributes.

Ayer, who has played mostly in the dark, gritty, and violent side thus far in his career, lightens things up a bit in terms of style, but doesn’t stray far from the attitude and energy that he commonly employs, particularly with the interactions of the key players. Will Smith’s Deadshot and Margot Robbie’s Harley Quinn are given the most love here, with the rest of the team easing in pieces of back-story that give them more to deal with than just being a stand in with a costume. It’s balanced better than you might think, but of course you can only get so much out of an ensemble in just under two hours.

I think they chose the right people to focus on, but that doesn’t mean others don’t shine. Joel Kinnaman was way more engaging as Rick Flag than I anticipated and Viola Davis is downright awesome as the ruthless and manipulative Amanda Waller, who makes Nick Fury’s team-building measures look like a Cub Scout meeting in comparison. Davis owns the role and brings a good balance of strength and fear to the character, who I hope we see reappear in many more films. Jai Courtney plays it more for laughs than any of them as Captain Boomerang, while Jay Hernandez's El Diablo is a particularly dark (and powerful) character with Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje's Killer Croc being there mostly for show (which is pretty much how he's used in the comics as well). 

Smith has more fun than he has in a long time and while he’s still another shade of the Fresh Prince here, he’s still got the energy, charisma, and physical prowess to put anyone else in the role to shame. Robbie’s Quinn will likely be the most memorable and endearing hot mess of crazy from the film and rightfully secures her legacy as the first live-action incarnation of the violent lunatic-in-love. Robbie could bring the phone book to life, so it’s no stretch that she “gets” Harley. She’s a blast, for sure, but there’s still some gaps missing in her overall persona that I think we need fleshed out before it’s a complete knock out of the park. (Also, keep an eye out for the onscreen text during her intro, which gives her a dark connection to Batman).

The story is fairly straightforward (and nowhere near as convoluted as what BVS attempted) with the primary villain emerging as Cara Delevingne’s Enchantress, who is basically an ancient meta-human God, who is seeking to rule the Earth by building something that humans will worship (and that can destroy them); a machine. What kind of a machine? Well, that’s not made entirely clear, which is where things get a bit fuzzy in terms of execution of her plan, but Delevingne is downright creepy and cool as the character, making her ambitions a little less important then her actual pursuit in achieving them. It's also worth mentioning that there are tons of Easter Eggs here, from other DCEU characters to nods to the comics, including SUICIDE SQUAD creator John Ostrander and artist Alex Ross. Keep your eyes peeled throughout and see what you can spot.

Once the team is assembled and set upon their “suicide” mission under the guidance of Flagg (complete with exploding devices injected in everyone to keep them in line), we see them put to the test against Enchantress’s minions, as well as their own moral standing and personal dilemmas. Each character has something they’re desperate for, be it a reunion, redemption, freedom, love, or some mixture of them all. It’s not just a bunch of oddball characters acting odd for odd’s sake and with no direct motivation. Everyone has something at stake, even if some characters get a brighter spotlight than others.

Speaking of the spotlight; you can’t ignore the elephant in the room that is Jared Leto’s Joker. His role is a tall one to fill, following in the footsteps of giants, and he brings a healthy mix of homage, style, and crazy that makes for a uniquely different Joker, but not entirely fully formed. His screen time is minimal, but it’s a wonderful tease and introduction to the character that resides in this new DC world. While I can see many being disappointed in his lack of presence, it’s to note that he was never supposed to be front and center; more of an ominous shadow, both of past deeds and future potential. If given the chance to shine in a bigger role (Affleck’s solo Batman film, most likely) then I have little doubt that Leto could eat this part alive and leave a lasting signature to the Joker legacy. As it stands here, it’s an appetizer, albeit a delicious one.

There are certainly some pacing issues intermingled throughout, but it mostly moves along briskly and is sprinkled with way more character moments than I anticipated.  The action is frenetic and chaotic, reminding me very much of a Tony Scott film, for better and for worse, right down to some great slow-mo and macro shots, as well as an editing style akin to the late, great action auteur. That said, I think some extra care to develop the action scenes into a more creative and cohesive endeavor would’ve served the film better. Steven Price’s score is a more heroic and straightforward affair than BVS’s and it was nice to hear something that wasn’t just a bunch of pounding drums in a DC film. As much as I love Hans Zimmer and Junkie XL, the DCEU hasn’t found their “theme” yet, but Price’s work feels like a step in the right direction.

For me, SUICIDE SQUAD represents a risky venture that ended up being a great sell with a mixed reception. While it’s not a perfect knock out of the park, it feels like a perfect fit to the world it inhabits and has an unshakable energy that keeps you invested from start to finish.  I judge most movies by whether or not I’d ever want to watch them again, which is, in my mind, the true test of a great film. I walked out ready to see it again and hoping to see more of these characters pop up in this bold, divisive, and unique new cinematic universe. I love that it challenges and angers some, while inspires and excites others. It’s a great time to be a nerd and SUICIDE SQUAD is a fine example of that.

As for a score; I don’t have one this time. You’ve heard me out and I thank you for doing so. Now, I’ll leave it to you.

CLICK IMAGE TO OPEN GALLERY & SEE MORE PICS...

Extra Tidbit: *This review was paid for with leftover swag bags from Point Break*
Source: JoBlo.com

RECOMMENDED MOVIE NEWS

MORE FUN FROM AROUND THE WEB

Strikeback
Not registered? Sign-up!
Or

12:19AM on 08/07/2016
I love that there is no score. I hope this is a start of something new not just for this site but for movie reviews in general. It makes you come across as a movie fan rather than a critic which is what this site use to be all about.
I love that there is no score. I hope this is a start of something new not just for this site but for movie reviews in general. It makes you come across as a movie fan rather than a critic which is what this site use to be all about.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:51PM on 08/06/2016
I liked it, but man did Slipknot totally got the short end of the rope. Wink.
I liked it, but man did Slipknot totally got the short end of the rope. Wink.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
7:04PM on 08/06/2016

Thank you.

Thank you for not scoring this review. I have never understood the reason why we have to place a score on a movie. I do not give a score to every movie I watch, so why should you! I do however discuss my feelings and thoughts about movies with my wife, friends and family, and I am so happy to read a review which is exactly that, your thoughts, feelings and experience is what I want to read in a movie review, not a random number or set of stars at the end. I would never base my decision to see a
Thank you for not scoring this review. I have never understood the reason why we have to place a score on a movie. I do not give a score to every movie I watch, so why should you! I do however discuss my feelings and thoughts about movies with my wife, friends and family, and I am so happy to read a review which is exactly that, your thoughts, feelings and experience is what I want to read in a movie review, not a random number or set of stars at the end. I would never base my decision to see a movie solely on a number, I would however make a choice based on a well written and informative article. So thank you once again and I hope to see a lot more scoreless reviews from now on. Let's be honest NO movie can or should ever get a 10 out of 10 as no film is perfect. There will always be something that could have been better otherwise if perfection had been achieved then all movies would be exactly the same and we would have nothing to talk about.

I saw the movie myself last night and have to say I had a blast. A big improvement on BvS (which does get better with repeated viewings) and worth seeing for Morgot Robbie's performance alone. As for the Joker, I can understand a lot of the comments about this incarnation of the character and I initially had the same feelings when I left the cinema. Having had time to think about it though I think the filmmakers and Jared Leto were right to go the way they did. It was always going to be tough to follow Jack Nicholson and Heath
Ledger so something different had to be done. I believe they gave a lot of thought to what would the Joker be like in 2016 and in a movie universe filled with meta humans, aliens, gods and witches the Joker was always going to be a tough thing to get right and with the limited screen time he has in the movie I think enough was done to introduce him and leave me wanting to see where they take the character next. It was also interesting to see the Joker played as a character who can care about others and his relationship with Harley is something I look forward to seeing develop in further films.

As for the other characters, El diablo is by far the most intersting and another good performance. The only let down for me was Killer Croc. The make up is terrific but his lack of size is distracting and when we have had oversized characters like Doomsday and also in this film (no spoilers) it seems a strange choice to have him be in the film and be shorter than most of the other characters. Maybe it was a budget thing or they just didn't want him to be compared to the Hulk but he was a lot less imposing than he should have been.

Overall the movie did exactly what I wanted, it thoroughly entertained me for two hours and introduced me to a new set of characters that I would like to see more of either in a direct sequel or popping up in other DC films in the future. I look forward to seeing it again on blu ray and adding it to my collection.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
2:14PM on 08/06/2016

"As for a score; I donít have one this time."

Did you decide to not give one because of all the backlash this movie has received and all the fighting on here?
Did you decide to not give one because of all the backlash this movie has received and all the fighting on here?
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
3:08PM on 08/06/2016
Not just this movie, but all movies of late. Check some of the threads below to see my lengthier explanations. Mostly, it's just to give my thoughts (i.e. a review), rather than a score for everyone to fight over.
Not just this movie, but all movies of late. Check some of the threads below to see my lengthier explanations. Mostly, it's just to give my thoughts (i.e. a review), rather than a score for everyone to fight over.
2:11PM on 08/06/2016
"While I can see many being disappointed in his lack of presence, itís to note that he was never supposed to be front and center; more of an ominous shadow"

That's not what I got from the trailers at all. The trailers made it seem like he was the main bad guy.
"While I can see many being disappointed in his lack of presence, itís to note that he was never supposed to be front and center; more of an ominous shadow"

That's not what I got from the trailers at all. The trailers made it seem like he was the main bad guy.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:27AM on 08/08/2016
I don't think anyone thought that. You think Joker was responsible for a massive heap of swirling garbage in the sky w ith a woman by the name of Enchantress standing at the base of it? (all this stuff was in the trailers) Then you really are dense. Everyone has known that Joker was a "wildcard" as per almost every interview with the cast and the director.
I don't think anyone thought that. You think Joker was responsible for a massive heap of swirling garbage in the sky w ith a woman by the name of Enchantress standing at the base of it? (all this stuff was in the trailers) Then you really are dense. Everyone has known that Joker was a "wildcard" as per almost every interview with the cast and the director.
+2
3:49AM on 08/06/2016
I agree for the most part. I really didn't like how Enchantress was handled, though. At all. A lot of the third act was frustrating for me, because of that. But, and I've had multiple posts on other articles, I overall really enjoyed the movie, and a lot of great performances outweighed some shaky plot points and editing decisions.

One thing I haven't touched on is the design of it all. Costumes, casting, atmosphere, sets, all of that, was spot on. Perhaps some of it wasn't utilized in the
I agree for the most part. I really didn't like how Enchantress was handled, though. At all. A lot of the third act was frustrating for me, because of that. But, and I've had multiple posts on other articles, I overall really enjoyed the movie, and a lot of great performances outweighed some shaky plot points and editing decisions.

One thing I haven't touched on is the design of it all. Costumes, casting, atmosphere, sets, all of that, was spot on. Perhaps some of it wasn't utilized in the best way, but kudos to the folks behind it. The Alex Ross Harley/Joker thing alone was possibly the most well realized portrayal of comic book characters I've ever seen in a movie.

I'd give it a 7/10, and I think your review would probably be a little bit higher than that, but I feel like we agree and disagree on all the same things, only with different levels of enthusiasm.

Good call leaving out a number for the review, too. You take a lot more away from a review by actually reading it than just glimpsing at a subjective score at the bottom of the page. With so much hype leading into the movie and so much hate after it, people just need to see it for themselves.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:41PM on 08/05/2016

Bravo Sir Bravo

I'm also perplexed by the scathing reviews. It feels like I watched a different movie. The one I saw had the crowd roaring and some folks were clapping at the end. It may not be the greatest movie ever... but for summer blockbusters, it was one of the best ones.
I'm also perplexed by the scathing reviews. It feels like I watched a different movie. The one I saw had the crowd roaring and some folks were clapping at the end. It may not be the greatest movie ever... but for summer blockbusters, it was one of the best ones.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+2
10:55PM on 08/05/2016
nailed it! Great soundtrack, great acting, funny, witty, cool action, cool effects, just nailed it! Just a good solid movie. HQ was easily my favorite part, I can't wait to see where they go next now!
nailed it! Great soundtrack, great acting, funny, witty, cool action, cool effects, just nailed it! Just a good solid movie. HQ was easily my favorite part, I can't wait to see where they go next now!
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
8:11PM on 08/05/2016
Brilliant. This is how movies should be reviewed. People stupidly skip to the end to see the rating... they rarely read the article. People think anything less than an 8/10 is crap and their feeble opinion is altered immediately.
Brilliant. This is how movies should be reviewed. People stupidly skip to the end to see the rating... they rarely read the article. People think anything less than an 8/10 is crap and their feeble opinion is altered immediately.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+2
7:37PM on 08/05/2016
Ballsy move with no score, but the right call. I respect that. This review has made me want to see the movie more so than any other. Great review, Paul! I also agree we need to get over the numbers. I'm as guilty as anyone for looking too much into that from time to time.
Ballsy move with no score, but the right call. I respect that. This review has made me want to see the movie more so than any other. Great review, Paul! I also agree we need to get over the numbers. I'm as guilty as anyone for looking too much into that from time to time.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
6:03PM on 08/05/2016

No score? I like it!

I'm more impressed with your decision not to score the movie. Pretty smart and a nice way to throw your hat in with the fans. I liked it. Enjoyable.
I'm more impressed with your decision not to score the movie. Pretty smart and a nice way to throw your hat in with the fans. I liked it. Enjoyable.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
-6
4:24PM on 08/05/2016
Whilst I usually appreciate a lack of film score, I can't get on board with it only being done when someone likes a film that has been reviewed as monumentally shit.
Nobody ever complains about reviews and scores when they agree with them. Nobody was getting uppity about The Dark Knight's rave reviews and 10/10s. Nobody is complaining about Finding Dory being reviewed excellently and suddenly refusing to score it and saying "figure it out yourself".
Why are people struggling to accept that a
Whilst I usually appreciate a lack of film score, I can't get on board with it only being done when someone likes a film that has been reviewed as monumentally shit.
Nobody ever complains about reviews and scores when they agree with them. Nobody was getting uppity about The Dark Knight's rave reviews and 10/10s. Nobody is complaining about Finding Dory being reviewed excellently and suddenly refusing to score it and saying "figure it out yourself".
Why are people struggling to accept that a majority dislike something that we ALL wanted so badly to be good?
The lack of film score here feels like it's done out of fear instead of a show of confidence.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
4:39PM on 08/05/2016
Fear of what? I've already heard the worst today and made it quite clear that I loved this film. End of story. Why do you so desperately need a score to justify it? Again, too many people are laser focused and trained to only respond to a number or grade rather than the actual thoughts, feelings, and musings about the film. You're missing the point.

Read this week's C'mon Hollywood if you need further clarification. There's no score at the end of that, either.
Fear of what? I've already heard the worst today and made it quite clear that I loved this film. End of story. Why do you so desperately need a score to justify it? Again, too many people are laser focused and trained to only respond to a number or grade rather than the actual thoughts, feelings, and musings about the film. You're missing the point.

Read this week's C'mon Hollywood if you need further clarification. There's no score at the end of that, either.
5:56PM on 08/05/2016
I have read (and responded a couple of times) to the C'mon Hollywood, and I also didn't state that 'I needed a score' (although I can see positives and negatives to both approaches).

What I am saying here is that you would not have refused to run a score if this film turned out fantastically and everybody loved it. Your lack of score doesn't reflect the idea that you don't believe in a scoring system, your lack of score reflects that you no longer believe in one now that you are in
I have read (and responded a couple of times) to the C'mon Hollywood, and I also didn't state that 'I needed a score' (although I can see positives and negatives to both approaches).

What I am saying here is that you would not have refused to run a score if this film turned out fantastically and everybody loved it. Your lack of score doesn't reflect the idea that you don't believe in a scoring system, your lack of score reflects that you no longer believe in one now that you are in disagreement with the masses (once again after BvS).

It reads less like you've taken the time yourself to decide upon not wanting scores, and more that you've felt the need to knee jerk react to the poor guys who want rottentomatoes shut down because it doesn't say what they want it to say. If you had gone balls out here and declared this film a 9/10 or whatever, and then stated you won't be scoring your next film onwards, then fine, it would be a review of a neutral movie with no pre-determined reviews. But refusing to score this film specifically after the online debacle it's causing, feels far too reactionary to the sad state of the DCCU and those who desperately want to love it.
6:32PM on 08/05/2016
No score that would satisfy anyone, myself included. Quite simply, I don't need one. It's beyond sad that we simply can't say we loved a film without assigning a numerical value to it. My reasoning for leaving out a score is a reaction not just to Suicide Squad, but for all films. I see it every week; people fighting over numbers. "This is clearly a 6." "It's a 3 for me." "10/10!"

We've simplified our thoughts far too much when it comes to reviews. We've LOST the discussion and instead
No score that would satisfy anyone, myself included. Quite simply, I don't need one. It's beyond sad that we simply can't say we loved a film without assigning a numerical value to it. My reasoning for leaving out a score is a reaction not just to Suicide Squad, but for all films. I see it every week; people fighting over numbers. "This is clearly a 6." "It's a 3 for me." "10/10!"

We've simplified our thoughts far too much when it comes to reviews. We've LOST the discussion and instead turned to fighting over what score is "most fitting". It's so arbitrary and useless and it takes away any real discussion over a film and just turns it into a pissing match over whose opinion is "right".

This isn't a DC issue. This is a film issue and, quite frankly, I'm sick to death and bored to tears over folks forgetting that we're here to talk about movies, to share our passion for them, TALK about them, not bitch, whine, and moan about which number or score is "right". Anyway, I'm in broken record territory now. I've said my piece. You can agree or disagree. I know where I stand and feel I've made it clear.
3:55PM on 08/05/2016
From that review that sounds like a solid 8/10 to me, but I dig that you went against the grain and left it open. Can't wait to see it for myself
From that review that sounds like a solid 8/10 to me, but I dig that you went against the grain and left it open. Can't wait to see it for myself
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
2:14PM on 08/05/2016

I'm surprised Paul Shirley...

...didn't give it a 1 out of 10 because it wasn't close enough to the source material...
...didn't give it a 1 out of 10 because it wasn't close enough to the source material...
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
2:19PM on 08/05/2016
See ya next year for Season 2 of Preacher, Telecine!

And don't call me Shirley.
See ya next year for Season 2 of Preacher, Telecine!

And don't call me Shirley.
4:08PM on 08/05/2016
;)
;)
1:36PM on 08/05/2016

Squad!

Excellent review Paul..!!! This article covered all areas, great wrtie-up!
Excellent review Paul..!!! This article covered all areas, great wrtie-up!
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
1:21PM on 08/05/2016
"I judge most movies by whether or not Iíd ever want to watch them again, which is, in my mind, the true test of a great film." I agree 100% and it's how I've been judging movies the last probably 5 years when seeing them in theaters. While I enjoyed BvS while watching it I've had zero desire to watch it again. Same with most Marvel movies, the only ones I'd watch again are Iron Man 1 and 2, Avengers 1, GOTG and maybe Captain America 1. The reason I'm "neutral" on this review is only
"I judge most movies by whether or not Iíd ever want to watch them again, which is, in my mind, the true test of a great film." I agree 100% and it's how I've been judging movies the last probably 5 years when seeing them in theaters. While I enjoyed BvS while watching it I've had zero desire to watch it again. Same with most Marvel movies, the only ones I'd watch again are Iron Man 1 and 2, Avengers 1, GOTG and maybe Captain America 1. The reason I'm "neutral" on this review is only because I haven't seen the film myself yet. Maybe Leto will change my mind but I've liked nothing I've seen so far for the Joker in trailers or TV spots. He simply looks like Jared Leto dressed up as the Joker whereas Nicholson was scarred and perma-bleached and Ledger, even though he was only using make-up, was at least scarred. This is a super important character to get right and so far I don't like what I see.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
12:52PM on 08/05/2016
Yes, it's bad. Surprisingly so. Another examples of how a well cut trailer can disguise a crappy film. Will Smith was the only bright spot. The Joker was the worst part. How the hell can someone compare the action in this film to ANY TONY SCOTT film? The action was lame and forgettable.
Yes, it's bad. Surprisingly so. Another examples of how a well cut trailer can disguise a crappy film. Will Smith was the only bright spot. The Joker was the worst part. How the hell can someone compare the action in this film to ANY TONY SCOTT film? The action was lame and forgettable.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+2
12:14PM on 08/05/2016

Agreed....

I didn't think it worked (particularly Leto's Joker who was too much gangster and not enough madman) as well as you did, but I had a good time and would like to see it again in theaters (and will be getting the extended blu-ray the minute it comes out). I think you could compare this to the Thor movies and say it was enjoyable but not groundbreaking. It's not Ayer's fault that the film had to be finished early to fit a BS schedule they announced long ago or that BvS wasn't the hit they were
I didn't think it worked (particularly Leto's Joker who was too much gangster and not enough madman) as well as you did, but I had a good time and would like to see it again in theaters (and will be getting the extended blu-ray the minute it comes out). I think you could compare this to the Thor movies and say it was enjoyable but not groundbreaking. It's not Ayer's fault that the film had to be finished early to fit a BS schedule they announced long ago or that BvS wasn't the hit they were hoping for, making this film suddenly something that had to prop up DC instead of just being a fun action film.

I think the one thing almost everyone can agree on is that the 27% RT has right now is a joke. This movie was well worth the price of admission, and the critics have had MANY worse ones in the 50%-60% range. At this point it seems like there's a vendetta against DC and I guess it's something they're going to have to live with.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
2:35PM on 08/05/2016
There are a lot of 3/5 reviews for SS considered rotten in Rotten Tomatoes. I still don't get it, what the hell happens with this guys. It's like they are trying too hard to put DC movies in the range of Sandler movies, in the 25%. Like it or not, BvS and SS are movies that at least should have ended in the 45-50% range. But probably not many people will be takin about RT in that case.
There are a lot of 3/5 reviews for SS considered rotten in Rotten Tomatoes. I still don't get it, what the hell happens with this guys. It's like they are trying too hard to put DC movies in the range of Sandler movies, in the 25%. Like it or not, BvS and SS are movies that at least should have ended in the 45-50% range. But probably not many people will be takin about RT in that case.
11:05PM on 08/05/2016
Yeah, even though RT doesn't have anything to do with the critics, I get the impression that there is a group-think mentality going on right now where they want to hate DC movies. 27% is Pixels/50 Shades/Ninja [link] Four territory. Anyone who thinks this movie is in that category is delusional. It's certainly not Civil War (nor is it as good as The Dirty Dozen which is the film they ripped off for the original comic), but it's definitely better than the crap movies.
Yeah, even though RT doesn't have anything to do with the critics, I get the impression that there is a group-think mentality going on right now where they want to hate DC movies. 27% is Pixels/50 Shades/Ninja [link] Four territory. Anyone who thinks this movie is in that category is delusional. It's certainly not Civil War (nor is it as good as The Dirty Dozen which is the film they ripped off for the original comic), but it's definitely better than the crap movies.
12:13PM on 08/05/2016
No score - now that's a classy move. Really. No sarcasm here. As for the movie, I'll find some time to go watch it and decide for myself.
No score - now that's a classy move. Really. No sarcasm here. As for the movie, I'll find some time to go watch it and decide for myself.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
12:15PM on 08/05/2016
His review is dead on (a little more optimistic than I thought, but still correct). You'll enjoy it. Just don't expect a big exciting ending that makes you want to cheer. That Ayer did miss on.
His review is dead on (a little more optimistic than I thought, but still correct). You'll enjoy it. Just don't expect a big exciting ending that makes you want to cheer. That Ayer did miss on.
12:58PM on 08/05/2016
Thanks, man. I'll keep that in mind.
Thanks, man. I'll keep that in mind.
12:06PM on 08/05/2016
Ballsy move with the no score, Shirey. Respect.
Ballsy move with the no score, Shirey. Respect.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
12:13PM on 08/05/2016
You respect a person getting paid to rate a film, yet he did not rate the film. He wrote what the film did good. It's a cop out. He doesn't want to piss off the fan boys who love it just because it says DC.
You respect a person getting paid to rate a film, yet he did not rate the film. He wrote what the film did good. It's a cop out. He doesn't want to piss off the fan boys who love it just because it says DC.
12:16PM on 08/05/2016
What does a score mean to you, anyway? Why does it matter? Do you sit down and have a conversation by tossing out numbers and grades?

This whole culture has become too obsessed with that bullshit. Get over it. Get over the numbers.
What does a score mean to you, anyway? Why does it matter? Do you sit down and have a conversation by tossing out numbers and grades?

This whole culture has become too obsessed with that bullshit. Get over it. Get over the numbers.
12:30PM on 08/05/2016
it was a well written review and its pretty much all i need to buy my ticket....thanks Paul :)
it was a well written review and its pretty much all i need to buy my ticket....thanks Paul :)
12:51PM on 08/05/2016
Does this mean you won't be giving rating to every movies now or only the ones with fanboys attached to it?
Does this mean you won't be giving rating to every movies now or only the ones with fanboys attached to it?
12:58PM on 08/05/2016
Undecided. I'm just tired of seeing everyone fighting over a number or score as the definition of what was written about the film. Too many people just opening the review, scrolling to the bottom for the rating and then jumping into the comments without any care, thought, or reference to what the actual review said. A review is not a number. If that were the case, we'd just slap a big fat number in the article and not write a single sentence.

For once, I wanted to focus on the film, rather
Undecided. I'm just tired of seeing everyone fighting over a number or score as the definition of what was written about the film. Too many people just opening the review, scrolling to the bottom for the rating and then jumping into the comments without any care, thought, or reference to what the actual review said. A review is not a number. If that were the case, we'd just slap a big fat number in the article and not write a single sentence.

For once, I wanted to focus on the film, rather than what the rating was.
1:28PM on 08/05/2016
Paul, you're absolutely right and I respect you a lot for this -- I totally did open it up and scroll down immediately to see what your rating was -- as there wasn't one, I simply scrolled back up and re-read it.

Excellent review -- I saw it last night and agree for the most part with what you've said. I think you appreciated it more than I did, which I'm glad for for its sake, but I think you offered a very honest and constructive opinion.

Nice work, sir!
Paul, you're absolutely right and I respect you a lot for this -- I totally did open it up and scroll down immediately to see what your rating was -- as there wasn't one, I simply scrolled back up and re-read it.

Excellent review -- I saw it last night and agree for the most part with what you've said. I think you appreciated it more than I did, which I'm glad for for its sake, but I think you offered a very honest and constructive opinion.

Nice work, sir!
1:37PM on 08/05/2016
I give your comment a 3/5 stars. It's missing a few key elements which I would also give a 7/10 of importance.

Seriously though, I don't get the fascination with scores either. I either like a movie or I don't like a movie. I don't need to give it a numaric value.
I give your comment a 3/5 stars. It's missing a few key elements which I would also give a 7/10 of importance.

Seriously though, I don't get the fascination with scores either. I either like a movie or I don't like a movie. I don't need to give it a numaric value.
3:33PM on 08/05/2016
Thank you Paul Shirey for being a movie reviewer...not a movie Rater.
Thank you Paul Shirey for being a movie reviewer...not a movie Rater.
3:02AM on 08/06/2016
I kinda like the No Score kind of review. There should be more reviews like this.
I kinda like the No Score kind of review. There should be more reviews like this.
+5
11:51AM on 08/05/2016

Screw the critics

The critics were wrong on this one the same idiots who gave age of ultron a 75 on rotten tomato .
The critics were wrong on this one the same idiots who gave age of ultron a 75 on rotten tomato .
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:45AM on 08/05/2016
I think DC is smart in that they are actually putting comic book movies onto the screen, rather then Marvels strategy which is to make a movie, and then add comic book elements to it. I think we should be lucky to get 2 distinct universes rather than more of the same. We're only 3 films in, and I think if DC sticks to its gameplan, by the time Wonder Woman and Aquaman destroy the box office, the movie going audience will embrace DC for what it is, real Comic Books come to life.
I think DC is smart in that they are actually putting comic book movies onto the screen, rather then Marvels strategy which is to make a movie, and then add comic book elements to it. I think we should be lucky to get 2 distinct universes rather than more of the same. We're only 3 films in, and I think if DC sticks to its gameplan, by the time Wonder Woman and Aquaman destroy the box office, the movie going audience will embrace DC for what it is, real Comic Books come to life.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
4:19PM on 08/05/2016
Something very distinct between DC and Marvel is that Marvel is mostly set in cities that actually exist (New York is a favorite), while Gotham and Metropolis (and I don't remember the names of Green Lantern's city, or the Flash's city, or wherever Suicide Squad's supposed to take place) are distinctly comic book creations.
Something very distinct between DC and Marvel is that Marvel is mostly set in cities that actually exist (New York is a favorite), while Gotham and Metropolis (and I don't remember the names of Green Lantern's city, or the Flash's city, or wherever Suicide Squad's supposed to take place) are distinctly comic book creations.
11:37AM on 08/05/2016
Loved your review Paul. You've been a very enjoyable read lately and I couldn't agree more with what you've written here. There's some sort of a disconnect between fans and casual moviegoers and critics; I couldn't begin to t lol you what that is.

I do however take exception to your comment on DC not really finding its theme yet. I'm not sure why score is mentioned so much in the DC universe and yet completely untouched when it comes to marvel. Wonder Woman's theme from BvS is easily better
Loved your review Paul. You've been a very enjoyable read lately and I couldn't agree more with what you've written here. There's some sort of a disconnect between fans and casual moviegoers and critics; I couldn't begin to t lol you what that is.

I do however take exception to your comment on DC not really finding its theme yet. I'm not sure why score is mentioned so much in the DC universe and yet completely untouched when it comes to marvel. Wonder Woman's theme from BvS is easily better then any theme we've heard from a marvel movie and right now stands as one of the most memorable comic book movie themes of the last decade, all credit to Zimmer and Junkie XL. I just think a bit more credit is due.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:50AM on 08/05/2016
Thanks for your comments. Just talking this over now over on Twitter, but ultimately it's not a comparison to Marvel at all. They've got their own theme issues (Silvestri's Avengers and Jackman's Winter Soldier are the only standouts for me). I love the Wonder Woman theme and Zimmer's Man of Steel works well, but I think BVS fell flat in the score department and they kind of muddled with a coherent theme, but didn't quite get there. Was not a fan of Batman's theme at all and I hope they put
Thanks for your comments. Just talking this over now over on Twitter, but ultimately it's not a comparison to Marvel at all. They've got their own theme issues (Silvestri's Avengers and Jackman's Winter Soldier are the only standouts for me). I love the Wonder Woman theme and Zimmer's Man of Steel works well, but I think BVS fell flat in the score department and they kind of muddled with a coherent theme, but didn't quite get there. Was not a fan of Batman's theme at all and I hope they put some genuine care into the score for the solo pic. I love Junkie XL, but I don't think he's a great fit for every single DCEU film. I'd like to see a good mix and was pleasantly surprised by the more thematic and heroic score by Price here.

I'm a score nerd, what can I say? Again, appreciate your comments. Cheers!
3:23PM on 08/05/2016
I must disagree Paul. The score for BvS is amazing and easily my favorite part. Batman's theme reminded me of Shirley Walker's themes from the animated series mixed with whomever did Batman Forever. Lex's theme with the harpsichord and strings was very chilling, Superman's theme was still as great as it was in Man of Steel, especially his sacrifice scene. Wonder Woman's was badass. I adore that soundtrack.
I must disagree Paul. The score for BvS is amazing and easily my favorite part. Batman's theme reminded me of Shirley Walker's themes from the animated series mixed with whomever did Batman Forever. Lex's theme with the harpsichord and strings was very chilling, Superman's theme was still as great as it was in Man of Steel, especially his sacrifice scene. Wonder Woman's was badass. I adore that soundtrack.
3:29PM on 08/05/2016
Cool, man. Glad you dug it. It didn't vibe for me as well. Again, I really like Wonder Woman's theme as well as "Black and Blue" but the rest just didn't gel for me. In contrast, have you heard Christopher Drake's score for the animated The Dark Knight Returns? Absolutely love that score. Wish it was in a live-action film.

Look forward to the scores for Wonder Woman and Justice League next year!
Cool, man. Glad you dug it. It didn't vibe for me as well. Again, I really like Wonder Woman's theme as well as "Black and Blue" but the rest just didn't gel for me. In contrast, have you heard Christopher Drake's score for the animated The Dark Knight Returns? Absolutely love that score. Wish it was in a live-action film.

Look forward to the scores for Wonder Woman and Justice League next year!
11:30AM on 08/05/2016
Despite being behind on my movies as it is, I went overnight from hotly anticipating this to halfheartedly thinking I might just skip the whole affair. Even Bumbray's 7/10 review felt like barely a 7/10. I'm not a serious comic fan, but when it comes to comic book movies, I take fan opinions seriously, if they can articulate them beyond "This is awesome!" and "This sucks!" So thank you Paul for bringing to bear what this movie achieved both as a film, and as it pertains to the growing subgenre
Despite being behind on my movies as it is, I went overnight from hotly anticipating this to halfheartedly thinking I might just skip the whole affair. Even Bumbray's 7/10 review felt like barely a 7/10. I'm not a serious comic fan, but when it comes to comic book movies, I take fan opinions seriously, if they can articulate them beyond "This is awesome!" and "This sucks!" So thank you Paul for bringing to bear what this movie achieved both as a film, and as it pertains to the growing subgenre and expanded universe.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+5
11:26AM on 08/05/2016

Thanks for this review Paul

I really enjoyed it and appreciate that you didn't give a score. What matters is the content of the review and it was super informative and gave me a good idea of what my expectations should be.

"Each character has something theyíre desperate for, be it a reunion, redemption, freedom, love, or some mixture of them all. Itís not just a bunch of oddball characters acting odd for oddís sake and with no direct motivation. Everyone has something at stake, even if some characters get a brighter
I really enjoyed it and appreciate that you didn't give a score. What matters is the content of the review and it was super informative and gave me a good idea of what my expectations should be.

"Each character has something theyíre desperate for, be it a reunion, redemption, freedom, love, or some mixture of them all. Itís not just a bunch of oddball characters acting odd for oddís sake and with no direct motivation. Everyone has something at stake, even if some characters get a brighter spotlight than others."

^^^That alone has allayed my biggest fear. Thank you for addressing it. Super excited I can't wait to hit the theater!
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:20AM on 08/05/2016
What a fantastic heartfelt review. Truly Paul, great stuff. Its a 7/10 for me as I felt some of the dialogue and obvious editing/ pacing issues could have and should have been avoided considering the microscope this one is under. It was a good time and will fit nicely in my bluray collection somewhere near Dredd, Monster Squad, and 42nd Street Forever.
What a fantastic heartfelt review. Truly Paul, great stuff. Its a 7/10 for me as I felt some of the dialogue and obvious editing/ pacing issues could have and should have been avoided considering the microscope this one is under. It was a good time and will fit nicely in my bluray collection somewhere near Dredd, Monster Squad, and 42nd Street Forever.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:18AM on 08/05/2016

Good Job

You really polished that turd up nicely.
You really polished that turd up nicely.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:27AM on 08/05/2016
So you've seen it or you just enjoy spewing negativity for fun?
So you've seen it or you just enjoy spewing negativity for fun?
11:28AM on 08/05/2016
Clearly. And thanks for setting the record straight that your opinion of the film is the correct one. I was confused for a minute there.
Clearly. And thanks for setting the record straight that your opinion of the film is the correct one. I was confused for a minute there.
12:10PM on 08/05/2016
I've seen it. It was a very shallow film. No depth, no character development. No thanks. Loved Nolans Batman universe. This one just feels rushed and not as well made. Let actual comic book fans make the movies.
I've seen it. It was a very shallow film. No depth, no character development. No thanks. Loved Nolans Batman universe. This one just feels rushed and not as well made. Let actual comic book fans make the movies.
12:46PM on 08/05/2016
"Let actual comic book fans make the movies"...?

Christopher Nolan didn't read comic books
"Let actual comic book fans make the movies"...?

Christopher Nolan didn't read comic books
+4
11:13AM on 08/05/2016

Review

Thanks for this review. Trying to watch with new eyes and ears. As a comic book reader, I watch these DCEU as if I was reading a comic. Not over analyzing, but taking it as a comic book movie. I don't like comparing it to Marvel because it is its own thing. I respect DC for that. Thanks for the no score as well. I don't like basing movies on a number.
Thanks for this review. Trying to watch with new eyes and ears. As a comic book reader, I watch these DCEU as if I was reading a comic. Not over analyzing, but taking it as a comic book movie. I don't like comparing it to Marvel because it is its own thing. I respect DC for that. Thanks for the no score as well. I don't like basing movies on a number.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
10:57AM on 08/05/2016
I personally hated it. But I really want to see it again...see if I was tired...or maybe distracted by waiters delivering food (saw it at one of those luxury dine in/cocktails and beer theaters)

And I really like that you gave it no score.
I personally hated it. But I really want to see it again...see if I was tired...or maybe distracted by waiters delivering food (saw it at one of those luxury dine in/cocktails and beer theaters)

And I really like that you gave it no score.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
12:59AM on 08/06/2016
Still hated it. I too will stop trying to score it. My reviews will be... Will i own it when it comes out on blu ray and digital HD/will I watch it again?

The answer is no... For me.
Still hated it. I too will stop trying to score it. My reviews will be... Will i own it when it comes out on blu ray and digital HD/will I watch it again?

The answer is no... For me.
View All Comments

Latest Entertainment News Headlines


Top
Loading...

Featured Youtube Videos

Views and Counting