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Ridley Scott admits where he went wrong with Prometheus

05.10.2017

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Although Ridley Scott now seems to be quite invested in the ALIEN franchise, he wasn't always willing to embrace the series quite so completely. Although PROMETHEUS does take place in the same universe as ALIEN, the film set out to develop its own mythology and explore new ideas. Ridley Scott later said that the classic xenomorph wouldn't appear in any PROMETHEUS sequels, but if you take one look at ALIEN: COVENANT, it's clear that he changed his mind at some point.

While speaking with Yahoo UK, Ridley Scott admitted that he was surprised by the reaction to PROMETHEUS as well as the desire of fans to see more of the xenomorph.

What changed was the reaction to ‘Prometheus’, which was a pretty good ground zero reaction. It went straight up there, and we discovered from it that [the fans] were really frustrated. They wanted to see more of the original [monster] and I thought he was definitely cooked, with an orange in his mouth. So I thought: ‘Wow, OK, I’m wrong’… The fans, in a funny kind of way – they’re not the final word – but they are the reflection of your doubts about something, and then you realize ‘I was wrong’ or ‘I was right’. I think that’s where it comes in. I think you’re not sensible if you don’t actually take [the fans’ reaction] into account.

Although I quite enjoy PROMETHEUS, warts and all, I'd have to disagree with Ridley Scott and say that the lack of xenomorphs was not one of its issues. I'm sure there were fans who would have loved to have seen them included, but I think most of us would have gladly traded an appearance by the creatures for characters who were better written. The upcoming ALIEN: COVENANT does seem to have improved on several aspects of PROMETHEUS, but it isn't without its own problems. Even so, it's Ridley Scott giving us another epic sci-fi adventure filled with creatures and suspense, I know damn well that he's already got my $10 in his pocket.

ALIEN: COVENANT will hit theaters on May 19th, so be sure to check out a review from our own Paul Shirey!

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1:50PM on 05/11/2017
What a lying crock of shit. This old hypocritical bastard sabatoged his own film and now blames 'fans' as it's failure. Fans didn't want more xenomorphs, fans were there for a new chapter in the form of an intelligent philosophical science fiction film. Fox wanted xenomorphs, Fox wanted more action, Fox wanted Aliens in the title; Scott was against it all from the beginning, this was to a return to the heavier morality themed films of 60s and 70s. Face it Ridley second guessed himself,
What a lying crock of shit. This old hypocritical bastard sabatoged his own film and now blames 'fans' as it's failure. Fans didn't want more xenomorphs, fans were there for a new chapter in the form of an intelligent philosophical science fiction film. Fox wanted xenomorphs, Fox wanted more action, Fox wanted Aliens in the title; Scott was against it all from the beginning, this was to a return to the heavier morality themed films of 60s and 70s. Face it Ridley second guessed himself, succumbed to Foxs interference and the original idea Prometheus became a celluloid abortion. Now he's a sudden whore for the entire franchise, killing off originality (i.e. Alien 5) in favor of corporation bile.
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4:33PM on 05/11/2017
Harsh, but true.
Harsh, but true.
4:41PM on 05/11/2017
I wanted more Xenomorphs, if only to a minimal degree. I wanted them worked into the story so we could see where they came from, who designed them, etc. I thought Scott would have wanted to work a lot of those previous elements into the film and blend them with the philosophical and thought provoking aspirations of Prometheus. Of course, I was also thinking we're probably going to get one movie and so I wanted it to cover it all in one epic film. I wasn't really on board with the idea of
I wanted more Xenomorphs, if only to a minimal degree. I wanted them worked into the story so we could see where they came from, who designed them, etc. I thought Scott would have wanted to work a lot of those previous elements into the film and blend them with the philosophical and thought provoking aspirations of Prometheus. Of course, I was also thinking we're probably going to get one movie and so I wanted it to cover it all in one epic film. I wasn't really on board with the idea of turning these prequels into another huge movie universe, and I'm still not sure I am. Not sure they could have pulled off my wish, but I agree with you to some extent that Prometheus is the victim of backpedaling. It started out with all the alien stuff when Spaights wrote the draft, but then everyone changed their tune and soon Lindelof came aboard. They wrote out all the alien stuff,and scaled everything down. In the end, they had removed more than they had added content wise. If they had started completely from scratch it might have been a different film, but I'm still not confident in Lindelof's writing abilities.
12:31PM on 05/11/2017
The lack of the original Alien creature was not at all a negative in Prometheus. The big negative was poorly written characters who behaved in stupid illogical ways that are more akin to cheap B-grade schlock. Prometheus had a lot going for it, from its fantastic visuals to it's rather intelligent premise & ideas. But when you can't care for, or root for, or even empathize with any of the characters because they behaved so bizarrely stupid and inconsistent, then any story is dead in the water.
The lack of the original Alien creature was not at all a negative in Prometheus. The big negative was poorly written characters who behaved in stupid illogical ways that are more akin to cheap B-grade schlock. Prometheus had a lot going for it, from its fantastic visuals to it's rather intelligent premise & ideas. But when you can't care for, or root for, or even empathize with any of the characters because they behaved so bizarrely stupid and inconsistent, then any story is dead in the water.
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4:28PM on 05/11/2017
To be fair, I think there were also a lot of logic gaps in this film that didn't make a whole lot of sense as well. Its faults were beyond just the behavior and acts of the characters. For instance, a complete DNA match when comparing results to another strand of DNA doesn't mean that one species comes from another, it means they are the same. Also, how exactly does an engineer sacrificing himself by drinking that black goo lead to the creation of human life? That substance either killed,
To be fair, I think there were also a lot of logic gaps in this film that didn't make a whole lot of sense as well. Its faults were beyond just the behavior and acts of the characters. For instance, a complete DNA match when comparing results to another strand of DNA doesn't mean that one species comes from another, it means they are the same. Also, how exactly does an engineer sacrificing himself by drinking that black goo lead to the creation of human life? That substance either killed, mutated, or produced a parasitic organism in every other instance it was used, but an engineer drinks it and...whala! Life? What about all the other organisms that developed on Earth? Fish? Reptiles? Birds? So did the engineer just produce single-celled bacteria when he sacrificed himself, then evolution took over and eventually lead to humans down the line? But then wouldn't every other organism on earth have DNA in common with the engineers? Didn't they say their theory ran contradictory to evolution in the first place? Blah, I give up. Premise was solid, but how they went about it was convoluted at best.
11:59AM on 05/11/2017

Mr. Scott needs not to explain

A good sign a movie is great is one that is debated long after it comes out. I found it to be one of the better entries in the franchise and one of the better movies in general that came out that year. Also one of the better horror/ sci-fi movies in the last decade. Not saying best, but easily makes an argument for top tier work. It was a intelligent script whether whether or not you can get past the few flaws it had. BTW I've never seen a movie get so much flack over its flaws when every movie
A good sign a movie is great is one that is debated long after it comes out. I found it to be one of the better entries in the franchise and one of the better movies in general that came out that year. Also one of the better horror/ sci-fi movies in the last decade. Not saying best, but easily makes an argument for top tier work. It was a intelligent script whether whether or not you can get past the few flaws it had. BTW I've never seen a movie get so much flack over its flaws when every movie including academy award winning movies have their own flaws. People seriously need to get over it and just admit it was a very good movie. When I saw it in theatres in IMAX 3D it was probably the most pretty film I've seen in a long time. The scenery and space shots were gorgeous. Had an A list cast who made the movie even better. Charlize Theron, Guy Pearce, Idris Ilba, M Fassbender, etc. Most the time you can say to each their own but honestly if you think Prometheus was a all out terrible movie you're probably fucking retarded and I wouldn't take anything else you say seriously. You could say not my cup of tea, didn't love it, didn't like it but understand why others like it. But definitely not a bad movie for fans of the franchise and genre.
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4:53PM on 05/11/2017
I'm not going to say it was an all out terrible movie because it wasn't, but it was a massive disappointment for me and I'm a huge Alien fan. Sometimes, that's even harder to deal with than something that's just outright awful. Not going to say I lost sleep over it, but yeah, having something be that disappointing when you're a huge fan and want it to be good? That just sucks, man. To each his/her own though.
I'm not going to say it was an all out terrible movie because it wasn't, but it was a massive disappointment for me and I'm a huge Alien fan. Sometimes, that's even harder to deal with than something that's just outright awful. Not going to say I lost sleep over it, but yeah, having something be that disappointing when you're a huge fan and want it to be good? That just sucks, man. To each his/her own though.
8:38PM on 05/11/2017
Massive disappointment is ridiculous. Also you never said why it was a "Massive" disappointment. Again you don't like it fine but as a fellow alien fanatic it could've been much worse. Far from the worst entry in the franchise. Is put it at #3 in the series. Alien, aliens, then Prometheus. No way you can argue avp, a3, resurrection, avp req were better.
Massive disappointment is ridiculous. Also you never said why it was a "Massive" disappointment. Again you don't like it fine but as a fellow alien fanatic it could've been much worse. Far from the worst entry in the franchise. Is put it at #3 in the series. Alien, aliens, then Prometheus. No way you can argue avp, a3, resurrection, avp req were better.
9:19PM on 05/11/2017
I'm not sure why perceiving something as a massive disappointment is ridiculous. I mean, we're talking about subjective opinions here, and what qualifies as a disappointment depends on one's own expectations and qualifications as to what he/she thinks makes a good film. The avps and Alien ressurection, those were just bad films to me. For me, the return of Ridley to the franchise and the question of the space jockeys raised my expectations way above anything the aforementioned films could have.
I'm not sure why perceiving something as a massive disappointment is ridiculous. I mean, we're talking about subjective opinions here, and what qualifies as a disappointment depends on one's own expectations and qualifications as to what he/she thinks makes a good film. The avps and Alien ressurection, those were just bad films to me. For me, the return of Ridley to the franchise and the question of the space jockeys raised my expectations way above anything the aforementioned films could have. You might say my expectations were too high, but considering how the film was advertised and hyped up we were all lead to believe it was going to be on a whole other level. Truth be told though, it didn't have to be 2001. It just had to be tighter and more coherent, and that's just my opinion. I don't really want to write another essay on why I found it deeply flawed because I've written about it so many times, but my complaints echo many other's on the subject. The characters, (save for David) were poorly conceived and written and their actions were incomprehensible. The internal logic of the film doesn't add up in so many instances or is poorly explained, (why would an alien race detail a map to a weapons installation so that the human beings they planned to destroy could find it?). I could go on with other examples, but I don't feel I need to. For the record though, I never said it was the worst entry in the series, but to me it is the biggest missed opportunity. I think Covenant will be tighter and more satisfying as a film, for me at least.
8:56PM on 05/12/2017
@psycheoutsteve: so again what made it a 'MASSIVE FAILURE'? I'm really just curious more than anything. I'm not mad but when i ask you what dissapointed you so much you won't answer. i get it, i'm well aware that this is a subjective opinion but a opinion with nothing to it. if you disliked it so much just give me at least a good reason if you're going to comment on my post
@psycheoutsteve: so again what made it a 'MASSIVE FAILURE'? I'm really just curious more than anything. I'm not mad but when i ask you what dissapointed you so much you won't answer. i get it, i'm well aware that this is a subjective opinion but a opinion with nothing to it. if you disliked it so much just give me at least a good reason if you're going to comment on my post
9:29PM on 05/12/2017
Ok, again I said it was a massive disappointment to me, not a massive failure. I'm not declaring it to be a terrible movie and I'm really not sure how I can make that any clearer. Second, I gave you a few reasons and I'm not sure why you just ignored them. The character behavior subject has been discussed to death and I'm sure you've heard it all before, (map guy gets lost, guy impulsively removes helmet without much consideration, woman brings back an ancient alien head and her first
Ok, again I said it was a massive disappointment to me, not a massive failure. I'm not declaring it to be a terrible movie and I'm really not sure how I can make that any clearer. Second, I gave you a few reasons and I'm not sure why you just ignored them. The character behavior subject has been discussed to death and I'm sure you've heard it all before, (map guy gets lost, guy impulsively removes helmet without much consideration, woman brings back an ancient alien head and her first scientific impulse is to jam a needle into it and pump it with electricity). However, it's more than just the character stuff for me, the logic doesn't add up either. The scene at the beginning with the engineer sacrificing himself by drinking the black goo doesn't make a lot of sense. That substance either kills, mutates, or leads to the birth of a vicious parasitic organism in every case it's used. Plus, you take into consideration the theory of evolution then it makes even less sense. Shaw finds that our DNA and the engineer's DNA match, but that wouldn't mean we come from them, it would mean that we are them, which also makes no sense. If the breakdown of the engineer's cells eventually lead to the formation of new cells and new organisms by process of evolution, then everything on planet earth would share genetic information with the engineers and not just humans. However, Milburn clarifies that Shaw's theory about the engineers is contrary to evolution and the film of course reveals Shaw to be correct, so what exactly happened? Did humans somehow directly emerge from the waters that the engineer died in? If so, how did that occur and how did all the other plants and animals develop on planet earth? And around and around we go...You know how all this convoluted movie nonsense could have been avoided? You just say the engineers had another substance they used to seed life on planet earth. You could have them put it in the water, create the first bacterial organisms and bam, everything else follows by evolution. That makes a hell of a lot more sense than what we were given and that's just one example of the backwards logic we were given in this film.
9:17AM on 05/11/2017

I don't think he was wrong

But Ridley Scott has always been a director who's terrified of letting audiences down, I remember how he changed the pacing and the music for Legend because he had a test audience think the movie was too old fashioned. So boom, in came the Tangerine Dream soundtrack, which is awesome anyways. In terms of Prometheus, I think he did no wrong. That movie is amazing as it is and Scott shouldn't fee he "was wrong", it is what it is and audiences should and will accept it for what it is. I recently
But Ridley Scott has always been a director who's terrified of letting audiences down, I remember how he changed the pacing and the music for Legend because he had a test audience think the movie was too old fashioned. So boom, in came the Tangerine Dream soundtrack, which is awesome anyways. In terms of Prometheus, I think he did no wrong. That movie is amazing as it is and Scott shouldn't fee he "was wrong", it is what it is and audiences should and will accept it for what it is. I recently rewatched it and everytime I do, I am amazed by it just the way it is.
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8:25AM on 05/11/2017
What?, No! Your problem was whoever hired Damon Lindelof to rewrite which was a fine script by Jon Spaihts. Lindelof sprinkled plot holes everywhere, thinking he's some kind of genius writer addicted to ideas that don't lead anywhere. This subject has been beaten like a dead horse on this website. Here's just hoping we get redemption with Covenant
What?, No! Your problem was whoever hired Damon Lindelof to rewrite which was a fine script by Jon Spaihts. Lindelof sprinkled plot holes everywhere, thinking he's some kind of genius writer addicted to ideas that don't lead anywhere. This subject has been beaten like a dead horse on this website. Here's just hoping we get redemption with Covenant
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2:11PM on 05/11/2017
"I had to go down to Fox and talk to Tom Rothman about what I wanted to do as well, and then Sir Ridley Scott and I, and Michael Ellenberg, sat in a conference room for four hours a day, three days a week, and sort of went over it, again and again and again until I understood exactly what he wanted to do and then I went off and I wrote it. It took me two weeks to write it, not a lot of time. The time consuming part was the collaboration because he thinks, and I know this sounds like I’m
"I had to go down to Fox and talk to Tom Rothman about what I wanted to do as well, and then Sir Ridley Scott and I, and Michael Ellenberg, sat in a conference room for four hours a day, three days a week, and sort of went over it, again and again and again until I understood exactly what he wanted to do and then I went off and I wrote it. It took me two weeks to write it, not a lot of time. The time consuming part was the collaboration because he thinks, and I know this sounds like I’m brown-nosing, but, Ridley Scott is a true genius and he thinks in visual terms far beyond the comprehension of mortals like us, but also understands story and mood and tone."

Do you really think that Ridley Scott, the director and producer, would not have his hands in every detail of this story? Of course he did! Damon Lindelof wasn't just told to write whatever he wants with Ridley Scott blindly accepting it. He and the studio gave Lindelof guidelines and a plot to follow, and he fulfilled those expectations. Since Ridley as director and producer filmed it, this shows he approved of it. Lindelof does not deserve the blame for the faults in Prometheus. Scott hired him and then told him what to write. Look at that quote and tell me that this doesn't indicate a person who was anything more than a puppet.
5:09PM on 05/11/2017
@BrokenDreamer- I would say that everyone, including Scott, was endorsing the direction that Lindelof was taking the final draft in, but reducing him to merely a puppet after all the backlash? I don't know, that seems likes it's letting him completely off the hook when you take into account that the same mistakes, weaknesses, and blunders that are present in his other works are on complete and full display in Prometheus. Scott could have changed it, true, but Lindelof needs to get better at
@BrokenDreamer- I would say that everyone, including Scott, was endorsing the direction that Lindelof was taking the final draft in, but reducing him to merely a puppet after all the backlash? I don't know, that seems likes it's letting him completely off the hook when you take into account that the same mistakes, weaknesses, and blunders that are present in his other works are on complete and full display in Prometheus. Scott could have changed it, true, but Lindelof needs to get better at script writing, period. They're both guilty as far as I'm concerned.
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5:01AM on 05/11/2017
I think the real problem with Prometheus was the illogical script. Raising too many unanswered questions, and not ones like "What's the meaning of Life" but more like "What the hell they were thinking?".
I think the real problem with Prometheus was the illogical script. Raising too many unanswered questions, and not ones like "What's the meaning of Life" but more like "What the hell they were thinking?".
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1:43AM on 05/11/2017
I would have gone with the attempted snake hug.
I would have gone with the attempted snake hug.
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1:25AM on 05/11/2017

Mild Spoilers..

I'm just back from a screening. It's fairly good I'd probably give it a 7/10. Funny that he says here that people wanted more xenomorph; they're not featured in Covenant THAT much so I wouldn't go in expecting a ton of xenomorph action. On a side note though, Fassbender and McBride are standouts in this.
I'm just back from a screening. It's fairly good I'd probably give it a 7/10. Funny that he says here that people wanted more xenomorph; they're not featured in Covenant THAT much so I wouldn't go in expecting a ton of xenomorph action. On a side note though, Fassbender and McBride are standouts in this.
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12:40AM on 05/11/2017
I like Prometheus but the characters navet just bugs the hell out of me whenever I watch it especially with the Noomi Rapace character she just does stupid things over and over like a child who doesn't know better her husband as well.
I like Prometheus but the characters navet just bugs the hell out of me whenever I watch it especially with the Noomi Rapace character she just does stupid things over and over like a child who doesn't know better her husband as well.
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11:23PM on 05/10/2017
The problems with Prometheus wasn't the lack of a traditional xenomorph, but the characters themselves. I'm ALL for the idea of HOW the Xenomorphs take their eventual Alien form, even having something different at first, but I mean...those fucking idiot characters. Shit that happened in AVP made more sense. You have a guy whose job is to map the ship and he's the one with directional disorder syndrome? Really? The FUCKING MAP GUY can't read his own maps? I mean....nearly every character was a
The problems with Prometheus wasn't the lack of a traditional xenomorph, but the characters themselves. I'm ALL for the idea of HOW the Xenomorphs take their eventual Alien form, even having something different at first, but I mean...those fucking idiot characters. Shit that happened in AVP made more sense. You have a guy whose job is to map the ship and he's the one with directional disorder syndrome? Really? The FUCKING MAP GUY can't read his own maps? I mean....nearly every character was a joke. Ok, lets also talk David dipping his finger in a water glass to give to whomever it was (been awhile since I saw it) First off, ew, that shit aint sanitary, even by a robot. Secondly, I may not have thought "What did he put in my drink" but I would thought "eh....no thanks":
That is what was wrong with Prometheus. Not the Alien, but everything else. Don't blame the Alien here. Evolution is what they do, so they evolutionary steps I actually liked. [link]
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11:17PM on 05/10/2017
A few years from now he'll admit where he went wrong with Alien Covenant because it's as bad as Prometheus is. Awful film.
A few years from now he'll admit where he went wrong with Alien Covenant because it's as bad as Prometheus is. Awful film.
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9:56PM on 05/10/2017
Loved Prometheus despite the flaws, but will admit that I expected a group of scientists to be a bit smarter than they actually were in the film. Glad to see that Covenant has fixed that problem.
Loved Prometheus despite the flaws, but will admit that I expected a group of scientists to be a bit smarter than they actually were in the film. Glad to see that Covenant has fixed that problem.
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9:47PM on 05/10/2017
It shouldn't be a suprise that fans wanted the Xenomorph in the Alien prequel lol you wouldn't make a Jaws prequel without a shark. But the problems were beyond just that. Had Prometheus been the thrill ride it was advertised to be, the Xeno would've been an afterthought. But glad to see him having another stab at an Alien Prequel and doing it more appropriately this time.
It shouldn't be a suprise that fans wanted the Xenomorph in the Alien prequel lol you wouldn't make a Jaws prequel without a shark. But the problems were beyond just that. Had Prometheus been the thrill ride it was advertised to be, the Xeno would've been an afterthought. But glad to see him having another stab at an Alien Prequel and doing it more appropriately this time.
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9:47PM on 05/10/2017
Agreeing with Salarian.
The movie pushed the "But that wouldn't happen. They wouldn't do that." button too many times. It's hard to go along with the characters when they're so freaking stupid.
Agreeing with Salarian.
The movie pushed the "But that wouldn't happen. They wouldn't do that." button too many times. It's hard to go along with the characters when they're so freaking stupid.
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9:42PM on 05/10/2017

Going back to the same old - same old... too bad.

I liked Prometheus, despite its arguable short comings. The best thing about the movie was that it offered a new mythology within a familiar universe. It frustrates me that most people just want the same old stuff over and over again. Let's evolve already. I'm disappointed that Ridley abandoned his original direction to appease the masses. Money is usually why creativity and originality die. So sad!
I liked Prometheus, despite its arguable short comings. The best thing about the movie was that it offered a new mythology within a familiar universe. It frustrates me that most people just want the same old stuff over and over again. Let's evolve already. I'm disappointed that Ridley abandoned his original direction to appease the masses. Money is usually why creativity and originality die. So sad!
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9:34AM on 05/11/2017
I was going to write a comment along these lines but I think you've totally nailed it. It is sad that the masses crave the same stuff again and again (endless fast and furious movies spring to mind) and it does have a massive dampener on creativity in the industry. As soon as I saw the first teaser for this I knew Ridley had put negativity of Prometheus down to lack of alien and had just set about recreating original Alien as much as possible. I wish people were generally more open to original
I was going to write a comment along these lines but I think you've totally nailed it. It is sad that the masses crave the same stuff again and again (endless fast and furious movies spring to mind) and it does have a massive dampener on creativity in the industry. As soon as I saw the first teaser for this I knew Ridley had put negativity of Prometheus down to lack of alien and had just set about recreating original Alien as much as possible. I wish people were generally more open to original ideas.
9:33PM on 05/10/2017
Really Ridley?!
What went wrong was that you hired a script writer that left you and was terrible. You also, had characters in the movie that didn't know how to do their own jobs right. People on this kind of expedition would probably be the best that planet Earth would have to offer, not a bunch of idiots. Also, Charlize Theron's character running away from a thin rolling ship instead of going either left or right.
Really Ridley?!
What went wrong was that you hired a script writer that left you and was terrible. You also, had characters in the movie that didn't know how to do their own jobs right. People on this kind of expedition would probably be the best that planet Earth would have to offer, not a bunch of idiots. Also, Charlize Theron's character running away from a thin rolling ship instead of going either left or right.
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9:41PM on 05/10/2017
You hit many of the nails right on the head.
A few weeks ago, someone asked me to rant about this movie.
I concluded with "If there were no humans in it, I think it would have been really good."
You hit many of the nails right on the head.
A few weeks ago, someone asked me to rant about this movie.
I concluded with "If there were no humans in it, I think it would have been really good."
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