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09.14.2015

Ridley Scott is really dead serious about PROMETHEUS 2 being a thing. After most people left the theater having seen the first PROMETHEUS, there seemed to be a pretty wide consensus of "That's not what I signed up for and I really don't want to have to come back." It was hardly the ALIEN companion piece that anyone was dying to see, and, even though it may have served as a good starter for philosophical discussions with your friends over drinks, the film itself left plenty to be desired.

But Ridley Scott is going to keep on trucking regardless, still set on continuing to tell a story that I believe most couldn't make heads or tails of. And he's got ideas on where he wants this PROMETHEUS sequel to go... lots and lots of ideas. Don't believe me? You try sorting through this stream of conscience he laid out up in Toronto.

You can either say, leave the first film alone and jump ahead, but you can’t because it ends on too specific a plot sentence as she says, I want to go where they came from, I don’t want to go back to where I came from. I thought the subtext of that film was a bit florid and grandiose, but it asks a good question: who created us? I don’t think we are here by accident. I find it otherwise hard to believe you and I are sitting here at this table, because the molecular miracles that would have had to occur were in the trillions, since the first sign of human life that crawled out of the mud with four fingers, would bloody well be impossible, unless there was some guidance system. Also, you have the sun approximately the same distance from earth as it is from maybe millions of planets and planetoids that are almost identical distance and therefore enjoy the value of sunlight on their soil. Are you telling me there are no other planets with human life? I simply don’t believe it.

That raises the question to me, same as was depicted in 2001 when that object comes hurtling through space, and lands in Ethiopia. And an ape that had been grubbing around in the water hole with all of them bickering at each other, goes up and touches it. He has a bigger thought injected into his brain than Newton got sitting under a tree and seeing an apple fall. Stanley then picks something metaphorically poetic in its violence, as the ape picks up a hip bone and brains the anteater so they can eat him. That is one gigantic, magnificent leap of a thousand years of evolution; that is where the world begins. It is pretty grand thinking, and that’s what I want to explore. You’ve got to go back and find those engineers and see what they are thinking. If engineers are the forerunners of us, and therefore were creators of life forms in places that were possible for biology to function, who created that? Where’s the big boy? You think this was all an accident? I don’t know. Even Stephen Hawking now says, I am not sure. He no longer believes in the big bang.

Sounds pretty dense to me, much like the first film, so I don't know how he's going to sort all of this out into a sci-fi movie that makes any lick of sense. But he'll try, and we'll smile and nod... and who knows how this will all shake out? But sadly you know we're going to find out anyway, because deep down we're all masochists who can't help ourselves.

Scott's latest THE MARTIAN lands in theaters on October 2.

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6:45PM on 09/16/2015
Thanks for the unbiased story, this read like a Fox News article.
Thanks for the unbiased story, this read like a Fox News article.
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10:45PM on 09/15/2015
I really think that the good parts of Prometheus was when the scientists in the movie are actually behaving like scientists, which includes all the philosophical babbles about God and stuff. This of course quickly get overshadowed by the rest of the movie where it degrades into a teen slasher movie trope with all of the characters suddenly behaving like idiots.
I really think that the good parts of Prometheus was when the scientists in the movie are actually behaving like scientists, which includes all the philosophical babbles about God and stuff. This of course quickly get overshadowed by the rest of the movie where it degrades into a teen slasher movie trope with all of the characters suddenly behaving like idiots.
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10:54AM on 09/15/2015
Ugh, flaws aside, the scene that haunts me the most is Charlize Theron running from the ship rolling after her. Why didn't she just break left, WHY????
Ugh, flaws aside, the scene that haunts me the most is Charlize Theron running from the ship rolling after her. Why didn't she just break left, WHY????
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7:57PM on 09/15/2015
It wasn't in the script. Ask Lindelof.
It wasn't in the script. Ask Lindelof.
10:35PM on 09/15/2015
BECAUSE SHE DESERVE TO DIE
also she rejoined the cast at the last minute and was kind of expensive to do a three picture deal.
BECAUSE SHE DESERVE TO DIE
also she rejoined the cast at the last minute and was kind of expensive to do a three picture deal.
9:46AM on 09/15/2015
Annnnd that's why Prometheus sucked. Big questions, dumb answers... if any, cause our friend Damon Lindelof doesn't seem to like answers and old Scott seems OK with that.

Why can't Scott see that Alien was so good because of the questions it didn't ask and the terrifying WTF effect that came out of that. Alien was never meant to be this grand mythological series, it was just a simple horror thriller in space and that's why it's a a classic. Otherwise it's like having a Friday The 13th
Annnnd that's why Prometheus sucked. Big questions, dumb answers... if any, cause our friend Damon Lindelof doesn't seem to like answers and old Scott seems OK with that.

Why can't Scott see that Alien was so good because of the questions it didn't ask and the terrifying WTF effect that came out of that. Alien was never meant to be this grand mythological series, it was just a simple horror thriller in space and that's why it's a a classic. Otherwise it's like having a Friday The 13th prequel telling us the origins of mankind... GTFO.
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9:08AM on 09/15/2015
Not sure why everyone is attacking the writer of the article about this news. His comments are pretty fair to the outcome of Prometheus. And the guy is entitled to his own opinion of a film. While I personally disagree with his opinion, I loved Prometheus and think it's one of the best sci-fi films of the past decade, the point of the article was Ridley Scott's comments on the sequel, not the writer's opinion.

So regarding Ridley's comments, I'm pretty pumped for the sequel. Prometheus,
Not sure why everyone is attacking the writer of the article about this news. His comments are pretty fair to the outcome of Prometheus. And the guy is entitled to his own opinion of a film. While I personally disagree with his opinion, I loved Prometheus and think it's one of the best sci-fi films of the past decade, the point of the article was Ridley Scott's comments on the sequel, not the writer's opinion.

So regarding Ridley's comments, I'm pretty pumped for the sequel. Prometheus, while entertaining, opened up some pretty big/complex questions about our existence. Some of which were never answered and some that were never really addressed. So a sequel that focuses on expanding these ideas would be great.
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8:31AM on 09/15/2015
Pretty negative article, still - opinions and that.
There was plenty to like about Prometheus, even if some of the scientists were remarkably dumb / unprofessional.
Definitely up for some more.
There are a bunch of ways Scott could proceed with this story that would lead to completely different movies.
If he was planing a trilogy you could go full horror with the second film and have her end up on a planet that was an Engineer experimental lab, full of messed up creatures that had overrun
Pretty negative article, still - opinions and that.
There was plenty to like about Prometheus, even if some of the scientists were remarkably dumb / unprofessional.
Definitely up for some more.
There are a bunch of ways Scott could proceed with this story that would lead to completely different movies.
If he was planing a trilogy you could go full horror with the second film and have her end up on a planet that was an Engineer experimental lab, full of messed up creatures that had overrun the place, then have her finally get to confront the Engineers in a final film where she / we'd get some answers.
But yeah, still keen to see where they go with this.
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5:58AM on 09/15/2015

incredible film

I'll take a flawed Prometheus over most of the generic bs Hollywood dishes out to us like slop any day of the week...
I'll take a flawed Prometheus over most of the generic bs Hollywood dishes out to us like slop any day of the week...
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4:32AM on 09/15/2015
I hope this doesn't turn out to be a different version of Star Trek TNG's Episode "The Chase". It has an interesting story, but in the end I was like "What? Ok... that's kinda stupid"
I hope this doesn't turn out to be a different version of Star Trek TNG's Episode "The Chase". It has an interesting story, but in the end I was like "What? Ok... that's kinda stupid"
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9:29PM on 09/14/2015
This is not a good sign. Not even in production yet and still he's wrestling with ideas that are both too broad for one film and beyond his ability to coherently communicate them to his screen-writer. Let's hope whoever is writing this thing is focused and interested in answering these really big questions because we all know what happened the last time...
This is not a good sign. Not even in production yet and still he's wrestling with ideas that are both too broad for one film and beyond his ability to coherently communicate them to his screen-writer. Let's hope whoever is writing this thing is focused and interested in answering these really big questions because we all know what happened the last time...
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9:04PM on 09/14/2015
Wow. Guidance system? I know he's a science fiction director, but is really that naive at his age? It's called 'evolution', and it's pretty much proven at this point. Maybe if you weren't too busy making one good movie for every 5 you direct you could open a book and maybe catch up a bit to what the rest of the world already knows.
Wow. Guidance system? I know he's a science fiction director, but is really that naive at his age? It's called 'evolution', and it's pretty much proven at this point. Maybe if you weren't too busy making one good movie for every 5 you direct you could open a book and maybe catch up a bit to what the rest of the world already knows.
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9:35PM on 09/14/2015
Actually evolution is still a theory and hasnt been proven yet and when guys like Stephen Hawking and Francis Crick (one of the founders of dna ) also doesnt buy it in a scientific non religious way you really gotta wonder what we have been spoon fed.
Actually evolution is still a theory and hasnt been proven yet and when guys like Stephen Hawking and Francis Crick (one of the founders of dna ) also doesnt buy it in a scientific non religious way you really gotta wonder what we have been spoon fed.
10:33PM on 09/14/2015
Cinnamon, I'm not sure you know there's a difference between a theory and scientific theory. The latter is based on physical evidence, tests/experiments, and case studies. They're never 100 % but proven? How much evidence do you need outside the countless scientific disciplines that agree we evolved from a single cell organism and our closes, currently living relative, is a chimpanzee? By your logic, global warming, the Earth being round, and the sun being the center of our universe are just
Cinnamon, I'm not sure you know there's a difference between a theory and scientific theory. The latter is based on physical evidence, tests/experiments, and case studies. They're never 100 % but proven? How much evidence do you need outside the countless scientific disciplines that agree we evolved from a single cell organism and our closes, currently living relative, is a chimpanzee? By your logic, global warming, the Earth being round, and the sun being the center of our universe are just theories and haven't been proven.
11:44PM on 09/14/2015
There's nothing saying that evolution itself couldn't be guided by such a guidance system. That's essentially what 2001 was all about. The evolution of man being guided by a far more evolved alien species.

Regardless, Carl Sagan once commented that when our probes begin to scour the universe for signs of intelligent life, that one of the ways that intelligent life would make itself known to us is in the geometric regularity of its constructions. At the time few people were practiced in
There's nothing saying that evolution itself couldn't be guided by such a guidance system. That's essentially what 2001 was all about. The evolution of man being guided by a far more evolved alien species.

Regardless, Carl Sagan once commented that when our probes begin to scour the universe for signs of intelligent life, that one of the ways that intelligent life would make itself known to us is in the geometric regularity of its constructions. At the time few people were practiced in looking at satellite telemetry so few understood what he meant, but now nearly everyone has used Google Earth, and the geometric regularity of our own constructions that can be readily seen.

Taking that into account, there are geometric regularities present in the very structure of the natural universe. These are known as the Golden Spiral, the Golden Mean, the Fibonacci Sequence, fractals and the Mandelbrot Set. What they appear to show is a geometric regularity inherent in the very fabric of the universe which seems to suggest that the universe may have been intelligently designed, though more research is needed to pursue this idea.

This shouldn't come as too big a surprise as scientists have recently been pursuing the notion that we live in a giant computer simulation. Obviously, if this is a computer simulation, then there has to have been a programmer, right? [link]

Now, anyone who has worked in 3D animation software like 3DS Max or Maya, will probably be able to put 2 and 2 together here; the notion of repeating geometric regularity in the fabric of the universe coupled with the notion that we live in a potential computer simulation. The potential implications are staggering.

So there are still interesting questions left to ponder.

Incidentally, anthropocentric global warming is a discredited fraud, and the sun is the center of the solar system, not the universe.
12:47AM on 09/15/2015
LOL cinnamon your ignorance is showing, its not a theory is one of the weakest arguments against Evolution. This is obviously not the forum for a Sky Daddy VS Evolution debate, but your wrong.
LOL cinnamon your ignorance is showing, its not a theory is one of the weakest arguments against Evolution. This is obviously not the forum for a Sky Daddy VS Evolution debate, but your wrong.
1:58AM on 09/15/2015
Well einstein i never said i didnt believe in evolution....all i said was its still a theory and i am correct on that..but your own ignorance prevented you from correctly interpreting
that ....my real belief is that we dont know what started it all for 100%...slow down and read....and the sun is not the center of the universe lol omg
Well einstein i never said i didnt believe in evolution....all i said was its still a theory and i am correct on that..but your own ignorance prevented you from correctly interpreting
that ....my real belief is that we dont know what started it all for 100%...slow down and read....and the sun is not the center of the universe lol omg
1:53PM on 09/15/2015
Moat Man: Very well constructed comment, thank you for that. Your points are interesting and I tend to think about those things in a similar way. Now, regardless of all that, I think these great questions do not fit well with the Alien series. Alien was just a creepy horror thriller in space and none of its sequels or prequels should try and explain the origins of mankind, especially not in a clumsy way like Prometheus did (ingoring the dinosaurs, plants and other living things that preceded
Moat Man: Very well constructed comment, thank you for that. Your points are interesting and I tend to think about those things in a similar way. Now, regardless of all that, I think these great questions do not fit well with the Alien series. Alien was just a creepy horror thriller in space and none of its sequels or prequels should try and explain the origins of mankind, especially not in a clumsy way like Prometheus did (ingoring the dinosaurs, plants and other living things that preceded humans by millions of years). It seems like those grand theories belong in movies like Contact or Interstellar... One last thing, do you believe human induced global warming is a fraud?
8:11PM on 09/15/2015
451-1138, I have to agree, addressing these sorts of questions seemed to have come out of left field with regards to the Alien franchise. It might have been better if he had attempted to adapt Zecharia Sitchin's work or something of that nature, although I suppose 20th Century Fox might not have given him as big of a budget, but then again I bet someone else would.

As far as AGW, belief has nothing to do with anything for me. It's about evidence, and never about activism or peer
451-1138, I have to agree, addressing these sorts of questions seemed to have come out of left field with regards to the Alien franchise. It might have been better if he had attempted to adapt Zecharia Sitchin's work or something of that nature, although I suppose 20th Century Fox might not have given him as big of a budget, but then again I bet someone else would.

As far as AGW, belief has nothing to do with anything for me. It's about evidence, and never about activism or peer pressure. Here's the evidence. There's over 129 climate scandals and counting that undermine the theory, many are the result of scientific activism. [link] 95% of the computer models that provide the purportedly "overwhelming evidence" are just wrong. [link] The often touted 97% consensus is a manufactured fraud. [link] Regardless, belief/denial, consensus, and "settled" dogma, are all religious tenets, not scientific ones. Besides, I was already a skeptic having been through the original crappy movie back in the 1970s. [link]
10:25PM on 09/15/2015
Moat Man: I think Belief is indeed important because we chose the things we believe in. I personally don't believe in conspiracy theories like "9/11 is an inside job" or "Man didn't land on the Moon" because my logic tells me it's simply impossible to orchestrate something on that big a scale. And if there ever was a conspiracy surrounding climate change, I think it would make more sense if it was the other way around. Big oil companies and governments are making profit out of denying climate
Moat Man: I think Belief is indeed important because we chose the things we believe in. I personally don't believe in conspiracy theories like "9/11 is an inside job" or "Man didn't land on the Moon" because my logic tells me it's simply impossible to orchestrate something on that big a scale. And if there ever was a conspiracy surrounding climate change, I think it would make more sense if it was the other way around. Big oil companies and governments are making profit out of denying climate change and they have a lot of scientists on their payroll. Believe me Exxon makes A LOT more money out of it than Greenpeace...

If you were stuck at the bottom of a pool under a heavy rain with a hose running, what would you do? Rain is obviously filling the pool faster but it's out of your control. The only thing that will buy you more time is to switch off the hose. It's the same thing for CO2 emissions... even if it's not our fault, should we stay idle? It's still pollution and bad for the environment.
10:53PM on 09/15/2015
Belief may be important to you, but ultimately neither belief nor denial play any role whatsoever in the Scientific Method. It never ceases to amaze me how many people "believe" in science yet simultaneously know so little about it. One of the more amusing spectacles to come out of recent history was watching activist dimwits protest petroleum, on the water in their kayaks which were made from...petroleum. [link]

Ultimately use of the terms and concepts of denial/belief, settled, or
Belief may be important to you, but ultimately neither belief nor denial play any role whatsoever in the Scientific Method. It never ceases to amaze me how many people "believe" in science yet simultaneously know so little about it. One of the more amusing spectacles to come out of recent history was watching activist dimwits protest petroleum, on the water in their kayaks which were made from...petroleum. [link]

Ultimately use of the terms and concepts of denial/belief, settled, or consensus in conjunction with science indicates scientific illiteracy.

Conspiracy theories are also another area where belief ought to play no role. There is either evidence to support them, or there isn't. Some conspiracies do exist. That's why we have a CIA, FBI, and a DoJ; because bad people get together to do bad things.

If we want to "follow the money" with regards to AGW, then we could just as easily follow the grant money given for global warming research. Universities, activist organizations, and government entities collectively rake in far more money than Exxon could ever imagine. Additionally, the dictator club at the U.N. has a vested interest in pushing AGW because a major prescription to fight the global warming malady involves rich countries to pay large sums of money to poor countries to offset the effects of CO2 emissions under the aegis of environmental justice, money that inevitable falls into the hands of despots who then use it to fund their corrupt militaries.

Another part of the problem, is that so much of science is erroneously driven by activism, that many of the over 129 scandals I point to above are committed by true believers who ultimately prove that they should never be involved in science in the first place. So there doesn't have to be any organized conspiracy, because the true believers falsify enough of the data on their own in order to prove a point they believe in, but for which there is no evidence. So is GreenPeace profiting? No. But that's not the point. GreenPeace activists are being used as what has been termed as "useful idiots" to push a political agenda. The "profit" that GreenPeace dullards receive, is the self-righteous sense that they're saving the planet like Captain America or something.

The problem you're having with your CO2 example is that CO2 is an essential life giving element that is necessary for a thriving environment. One of the things they used to teach in science class is the fact that all plant life requires CO2 to sustain life. Indeed, increased CO2 emissions facilitate faster growth of rainforests, [link] while simultaneously causing deserts to shrink [link] . Turns out, capitalism is very good for the planet.

And that brings us to another point, in that the solution for AGW is always the embrace of socialism. Something that is relatively easy to have young people embrace because they're only taught the philosophy and promises of socialism, never the historical reality of it. So when we're told that both more [link] , and less snow [link] , are simultaneously signs of global warming for which only defeating evil capitalism can save us, it's fairly clear that the science isn't honest or legitimate, because genuine science is required to be falsifiable.

This is why rather than being clever, the video from Girl Pants Productions was mainly an uneducated expression of scientific illiteracy.

11:42PM on 09/15/2015
"Turns out, capitalism is very good for the planet." I like capitalism for what it's bringing me, but for fuck's sake man... What's next?! Battery acid and dead cellphones make great fertilizers?
"Turns out, capitalism is very good for the planet." I like capitalism for what it's bringing me, but for fuck's sake man... What's next?! Battery acid and dead cellphones make great fertilizers?
11:14AM on 09/16/2015
That might be seemingly clever rhetoric, but it's certainly not a coherent argument that counters my point. If the increased CO2 emissions that capitalist activity brings both shrinks deserts and grows rainforests then yes, capitalism is in fact good for the planet.

The reason your water in a pool metaphor doesn't work, is because in reality I'm not alone in that pool. There are millions of organisms that share that pool with me, a significant portion of whom transform that water (CO2)
That might be seemingly clever rhetoric, but it's certainly not a coherent argument that counters my point. If the increased CO2 emissions that capitalist activity brings both shrinks deserts and grows rainforests then yes, capitalism is in fact good for the planet.

The reason your water in a pool metaphor doesn't work, is because in reality I'm not alone in that pool. There are millions of organisms that share that pool with me, a significant portion of whom transform that water (CO2) into substances that are usable to other organisms (O2). This may be why a top climate scientist was forced to admit that despite increasing CO2 emissions, the rise in temperature is "a value very close to zero." [link] Remember, the whole notion that CO2 causes temperatures to rise is predicated upon an old experiment in which CO2 is injected into an aquarium and temperatures are measured. http://www.umsl.edu/[link] But what good science students should be asking, is what layer of the Earth's atmosphere is represented by the aquarium glass? The Earth is not encased in aquarium glass or anything like it. That problem alone should evoke serious skepticism in thinking people.

Now, no doubt many will not like this. If AGW were widely accepted to be the fraud that it is, then a sizable portion of a good many people's personality and political outlook would instantly evaporate. But neither does genuine science depend on what people like, as this is the way it is anyway.

At any rate, this news story about the U.N. bribing Kiwi reporters to write global warming "scare stories" came out the other day, thought you might be interested. [link]
8:01PM on 09/14/2015
Loved the first one (flaws and all) and thought it was visually stunning. Looking forward to seeing what else Scott has up his sleeve for this next go around.
Loved the first one (flaws and all) and thought it was visually stunning. Looking forward to seeing what else Scott has up his sleeve for this next go around.
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7:15PM on 09/14/2015
Yeah, I'm with everyone else on this. I loved Prometheus, warts and all, and have been jonesing for a sequel ever since. I know far more people who enjoyed it than didn't and think this writer is WAY overblowing the amount of hate this movie gets from a vocal minority of butthurt fanboys.
Yeah, I'm with everyone else on this. I loved Prometheus, warts and all, and have been jonesing for a sequel ever since. I know far more people who enjoyed it than didn't and think this writer is WAY overblowing the amount of hate this movie gets from a vocal minority of butthurt fanboys.
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7:11PM on 09/14/2015

Happy to hear there is going to be a continuation

Prometheus left a very bad taste in my mouth, but it was from a story standpoint, not Scott's directing ability. I hope he's serious about Prometheus 2 being driven by an interesting story and groundbreaking questions instead of more of the same.
Prometheus left a very bad taste in my mouth, but it was from a story standpoint, not Scott's directing ability. I hope he's serious about Prometheus 2 being driven by an interesting story and groundbreaking questions instead of more of the same.
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6:36PM on 09/14/2015
"Ridley Scott is really dead serious about PROMETHEUS 2 being a thing. After most people left the theater having seen the first PROMETHEUS, there seemed to be a pretty wide consensus of "That's not what I signed up for and I really don't want to have to come back." It was hardly the ALIEN companion piece that anyone was dying to see, and, even though it may have served as a good starter for philosophical discussions with your friends over drinks, the film itself left plenty to be
"Ridley Scott is really dead serious about PROMETHEUS 2 being a thing. After most people left the theater having seen the first PROMETHEUS, there seemed to be a pretty wide consensus of "That's not what I signed up for and I really don't want to have to come back." It was hardly the ALIEN companion piece that anyone was dying to see, and, even though it may have served as a good starter for philosophical discussions with your friends over drinks, the film itself left plenty to be desired."


Probably the most self indulgent erroneous comment i've ever seen on this website. Is this the new writer you guys hired? GARBAGE!!!!! Yes the movie was divisive. BUT that comment is so wrong. It seems like it was a 50/50 Split. So get your facts straight instead of pushing your opinion as the overall consensus.

Green only because I am looking forward to P2
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8:57AM on 09/15/2015
I think it's a pretty fair comment to make. While I agree that it was probably a 50/50 split in the audience that liked it vs. those who didn't. But the people that didn't like it were far more vocal of their dislike online than those that did like it. It definitely gave the impression that not a lot of people were pleased with the movie.

On top of that, it's also his personal opinion of the movie, which he's also entitled to have. If you're looking for non-biased journalism, then go
I think it's a pretty fair comment to make. While I agree that it was probably a 50/50 split in the audience that liked it vs. those who didn't. But the people that didn't like it were far more vocal of their dislike online than those that did like it. It definitely gave the impression that not a lot of people were pleased with the movie.

On top of that, it's also his personal opinion of the movie, which he's also entitled to have. If you're looking for non-biased journalism, then go read a newspaper. This is a movie website, everything is written using a subjective opinion.
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6:33PM on 09/14/2015

Great news!

Promethues rocked and one of the best syfy in a while! The writer here has it backwards way more people enjoyed it and wanted another one! It was complicated and these day's fan boys like everything easy! Just because, you didn't get it does not mean others didn't!
Promethues rocked and one of the best syfy in a while! The writer here has it backwards way more people enjoyed it and wanted another one! It was complicated and these day's fan boys like everything easy! Just because, you didn't get it does not mean others didn't!
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6:14PM on 09/14/2015
I loved "Prometheus" and have been hoping for this sequel since the the film was released.
I loved "Prometheus" and have been hoping for this sequel since the the film was released.
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