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Rumor: Is this the subtitle for Star Wars: Episode VII?

Sep. 9, 2013by: Alex Maidy

Rumors come in two varieties: those that end up being true and those that are total works of fiction. Since the invention of The Internet, many rumors that sounded like total bullshit turned out to be true. Hell, even when news came down that Disney bought Lucasfilm we all thought it was an elaborate joke and look at us now. We are talking about casting, storylines, and titles for STAR WARS: EPISODE VII.

Speaking of titles, Talkbacker.com claims they have a source who has divulged the leading subtitle for STAR WARS: EPISODE VII. Talkbacker doesn't ring a bell which usually sets of my bullshit alarm, but major websites are reporting their story so I figured we should check it out. The site claims they have a source as well as two others that are substantiating it that the title for STAR WARS: EPISODE VII shall be A NEW DAWN.

This title has been floating around since last year so it could just be the re-appearance of an older rumor or it could be what George Lucas had in mind when he wrote the outlines for the new trilogy. It certainly would be a nice reminder of A NEW HOPE and keep the promise of the new series following the classic three films instead of aping the prequels.

The source also claims that construction is underway at Pinewood Studios in England on a 1:1 scale replica of the Millennium Falcon along with sets for a power plant and the Mos Eisley Cantina. Maybe J.J. Abrams is taking us back to the classic films after all. Disney and Lucasfilm are not going to show their cards that easily until they are ready to make a big announcement. Once that happens I am sure we will only get cast, the official title, and possibly a basic plot outline. Until that day comes, let us debate whether A NEW DAWN is a good title or not.

STAR WARS: EPISODE VII opens 2015.

Extra Tidbit: At least it isn't RETURN OF THE PHANTOM CLONES
Source: Talkbacker.com

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9:05AM on 09/13/2013
Star Wars: Rise of the Age of Darkness
Star Wars: Rise of the Age of Darkness
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9:02PM on 09/11/2013
I find it less hokey than 'Into Darkness', so sure why not.
I find it less hokey than 'Into Darkness', so sure why not.
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10:51PM on 09/10/2013

how about.....

how about...Star Wars: The Search for More Money!!
how about...Star Wars: The Search for More Money!!
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10:49PM on 09/10/2013

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sounds like a Timothy Zahn title from one of the star wars books
sounds like a Timothy Zahn title from one of the star wars books
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6:03PM on 09/10/2013

Good title, but would prefer something to suggest dark times are returning.

"A New Dawn" is a good title and carries a familiar sound of "A New Hope". But....is that what Episode VII should start off with? Episode VI ended in the highest of hopes: The Death Star II was destroyed, the Sith Emperor was killed, Vader was redeemed, the Empire left in ruins, the Jedi order resurrected. It's time for some dark dealings to happen. A new dark era to arise. I always pictured a "Episode VII: Rise of The Empire" title feel. "A New Hope" was a perfect title to suggest that after
"A New Dawn" is a good title and carries a familiar sound of "A New Hope". But....is that what Episode VII should start off with? Episode VI ended in the highest of hopes: The Death Star II was destroyed, the Sith Emperor was killed, Vader was redeemed, the Empire left in ruins, the Jedi order resurrected. It's time for some dark dealings to happen. A new dark era to arise. I always pictured a "Episode VII: Rise of The Empire" title feel. "A New Hope" was a perfect title to suggest that after about 20 devastating years of the Sith and the Empire ruling the galaxy, the Rebels would spark hope in restoring the galaxy. For Episode VII, isn't it time for a new dark era to arise?
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2:41PM on 09/10/2013

Too similar to A New Hope and Dawn of the Planet of the Apes

They should go a little glitzier. A New Dawn is kinda boring. We already know it's the beginning of another chapter. Previous Star Wars titles have been significantly more revealing (with the exception of Phantom Menace and A New Hope) so...maybe they're throwing this out there as a distraction until the real (more descriptive) title is made known.
They should go a little glitzier. A New Dawn is kinda boring. We already know it's the beginning of another chapter. Previous Star Wars titles have been significantly more revealing (with the exception of Phantom Menace and A New Hope) so...maybe they're throwing this out there as a distraction until the real (more descriptive) title is made known.
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12:20PM on 09/10/2013
I'll admit, the title could be a lot more creative. And I would definitely prefer something better. But if this is the final product, so be it. It's certainly not the worst creative idea implemented for a Star Wars movie.
I'll admit, the title could be a lot more creative. And I would definitely prefer something better. But if this is the final product, so be it. It's certainly not the worst creative idea implemented for a Star Wars movie.
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12:20PM on 09/10/2013

Star Wars: A New Trilogy

Star Wars: A New Trilogy
Star Wars: A New Trilogy
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2:59PM on 09/10/2013
for the win
for the win
9:50AM on 09/10/2013

I don't...

give a shit what the title is, as long as the movie is great and Abrams doesn't lens flare the shit out of it like he did with star trek. Could you imagine a lightsaber battle distorted and unseeable because of some "stylistic" lens flare bullshit!
give a shit what the title is, as long as the movie is great and Abrams doesn't lens flare the shit out of it like he did with star trek. Could you imagine a lightsaber battle distorted and unseeable because of some "stylistic" lens flare bullshit!
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10:10AM on 09/10/2013
My thoughts exactly.
My thoughts exactly.
9:20AM on 09/10/2013

Relax, this isn't the title.

I follow Quint from Ain't It Cool News on Twitter and according to him there is no truth to this rumor. He went on to point out that Talkbacker.com is a website started by disgruntled AICN message board members who were fed up with the site and decided to start their own, so their credibility remains highly in doubt. They ran a rumor that others had been hearing for months but knew better than to post.
I follow Quint from Ain't It Cool News on Twitter and according to him there is no truth to this rumor. He went on to point out that Talkbacker.com is a website started by disgruntled AICN message board members who were fed up with the site and decided to start their own, so their credibility remains highly in doubt. They ran a rumor that others had been hearing for months but knew better than to post.
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8:21AM on 09/10/2013
It's a subtitle. If the movie's amazing people will be perfectly happy with the title. If they screw it up somehow, the title will be the least of their worries.
It's a subtitle. If the movie's amazing people will be perfectly happy with the title. If they screw it up somehow, the title will be the least of their worries.
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2:57PM on 09/10/2013
yeah, kinda like Star Trek Into Darkness
yeah, kinda like Star Trek Into Darkness
3:16AM on 09/10/2013

A NEW DAWN???? are you kidding me???

it's BORING like A NEW HOPE... shit in '77 when I saw STAR WARS, it was just CALLED STAR WARS.
it's BORING like A NEW HOPE... shit in '77 when I saw STAR WARS, it was just CALLED STAR WARS.
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12:14PM on 09/10/2013
Fair enough, but regardless of what Star Wars was released as in '77, when Empire Strikes Back was released in '80 it introduced the subtitles to the Star Wars franchise. And as such, it's become the expectation of every Star Wars released since than to have a subtitle. Would you expect them to go back to just: Star Wars for the seventh movie? It would seem a little ridiculous.
Fair enough, but regardless of what Star Wars was released as in '77, when Empire Strikes Back was released in '80 it introduced the subtitles to the Star Wars franchise. And as such, it's become the expectation of every Star Wars released since than to have a subtitle. Would you expect them to go back to just: Star Wars for the seventh movie? It would seem a little ridiculous.
1:14PM on 09/10/2013
'The Empire Strikes Back' and 'Return of the Jedi' were not subtitles. They were the movie titles. It was only with 'The Phantom Menace' that 'STAR WARS EPISODE X' started to dominate.
'The Empire Strikes Back' and 'Return of the Jedi' were not subtitles. They were the movie titles. It was only with 'The Phantom Menace' that 'STAR WARS EPISODE X' started to dominate.
2:52PM on 09/10/2013
You make a good point about no one using A New Hope before the new trilogy. But when there are so many you have to make them stand apart. Watch JJ go for Star Wars Into Darkness, or something equally as insulting. In fact, when I think of that name, the movie itself, and the fact that he has now moved on to Star Wars, it almost makes me think he used that title for the new Star Trek movie on purpose. No more JJ for Star Trek!
You make a good point about no one using A New Hope before the new trilogy. But when there are so many you have to make them stand apart. Watch JJ go for Star Wars Into Darkness, or something equally as insulting. In fact, when I think of that name, the movie itself, and the fact that he has now moved on to Star Wars, it almost makes me think he used that title for the new Star Trek movie on purpose. No more JJ for Star Trek!
2:05AM on 09/10/2013

.....

It's amazing how one fan boy sees a fan made poster from 2002 with "A New Dawn" on it, floats it around some forums and it somehow ends up here.

It's probably the most cliche subtitle in history, and something tells me J.J does not do cliche.
It's amazing how one fan boy sees a fan made poster from 2002 with "A New Dawn" on it, floats it around some forums and it somehow ends up here.

It's probably the most cliche subtitle in history, and something tells me J.J does not do cliche.
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2:49PM on 09/10/2013
are you serious when you say JJ does not do cliche? Have you seen Star Trek Into Darkness? He literally made Star Trek transform from something cool and hip to dorky and cliche with that one. You may wanna rethink your confidence in JJ.
are you serious when you say JJ does not do cliche? Have you seen Star Trek Into Darkness? He literally made Star Trek transform from something cool and hip to dorky and cliche with that one. You may wanna rethink your confidence in JJ.
11:39PM on 09/09/2013
I like it - evokes Episode 4 which is more what you want. As long as they avoid the words "Dark", "Darkness", "Rise" and "Rising" then I'm cool with it. If they call it Star Wars Episode 7: The Rising Dark I will cry.
I like it - evokes Episode 4 which is more what you want. As long as they avoid the words "Dark", "Darkness", "Rise" and "Rising" then I'm cool with it. If they call it Star Wars Episode 7: The Rising Dark I will cry.
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9:03PM on 09/11/2013
THE SEEKER: THE DARK IS RISING :))
THE SEEKER: THE DARK IS RISING :))
11:08PM on 09/09/2013

I do like this..

title a lot it's very star wars fitting. And its alos like a new start to everything too. I have huge huge faith in this movie and is easily one of my most must watched films to date next to godzilla.
title a lot it's very star wars fitting. And its alos like a new start to everything too. I have huge huge faith in this movie and is easily one of my most must watched films to date next to godzilla.
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9:55PM on 09/09/2013
Right now, Warner Bros is looking through their library of shorts as an executive screams "Hey, don't we have something called "A New Dawn" from 1927?!!!
Right now, Warner Bros is looking through their library of shorts as an executive screams "Hey, don't we have something called "A New Dawn" from 1927?!!!
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9:51PM on 09/09/2013

A New Dawn?

Can it clean an entire sinkful of dishes with just a teaspoon? Because the current Dawn can.
Can it clean an entire sinkful of dishes with just a teaspoon? Because the current Dawn can.
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9:54PM on 09/09/2013
Dude, you need to work on your jokes. As in making them actually funny.
Dude, you need to work on your jokes. As in making them actually funny.
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9:20PM on 09/09/2013

A New Yawn

Do you long for super clean space dishes? Try, A New Dawn.
Sounds like some kind of vampire tween novel. Robert Pattinson as Edward Binks.
Yuck.
Do you long for super clean space dishes? Try, A New Dawn.
Sounds like some kind of vampire tween novel. Robert Pattinson as Edward Binks.
Yuck.
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2:44PM on 09/10/2013
too true
too true
8:56PM on 09/09/2013
That...actually doesn't sound too bad. At least it's not "Star Wars Episode VII: Rise of the Dark Age"
That...actually doesn't sound too bad. At least it's not "Star Wars Episode VII: Rise of the Dark Age"
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3:17AM on 09/10/2013
Rise of the Dark Age sounds a ton BETTER than A New Dawn
Rise of the Dark Age sounds a ton BETTER than A New Dawn
2:43PM on 09/10/2013
Ditto to mckracken
Ditto to mckracken
2:43PM on 09/10/2013
Ditto to mckracken
Ditto to mckracken
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8:15PM on 09/09/2013

No Offense...

....intended personally to him....but I'm just waiting for The_Soloist to comment so I can mark it thumbs down no matter what he comments. It seems to be a fun pastime for everyone.
....intended personally to him....but I'm just waiting for The_Soloist to comment so I can mark it thumbs down no matter what he comments. It seems to be a fun pastime for everyone.
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7:47PM on 09/09/2013

I think 'A New Dawn' works well.

And I'm surprised people are giving Noms thumbs up after he said the title is too twilighty....Uhhh, the title for Episode IV was A New Hope, so calling it A New Dawn fits.
And I'm surprised people are giving Noms thumbs up after he said the title is too twilighty....Uhhh, the title for Episode IV was A New Hope, so calling it A New Dawn fits.
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7:44PM on 09/09/2013

Why?

Why should episodes 7-9 bother referencing anything that happened in the EU? I honestly don't want to see the Imperial remanent at all. The EU beat that dead horse stupid. The really need to do an original story completely divorced from the EU. As for the title... Bleh! The can come up with something better than that but it doesn't bother me.
Why should episodes 7-9 bother referencing anything that happened in the EU? I honestly don't want to see the Imperial remanent at all. The EU beat that dead horse stupid. The really need to do an original story completely divorced from the EU. As for the title... Bleh! The can come up with something better than that but it doesn't bother me.
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7:44PM on 09/09/2013
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7:42PM on 09/09/2013
It follows the "rules" at least.

The film starting each trilogy has a subtitle with three words: A New Hope / The Phantom Menace.

The sequels then have four word subtitles

The Empire Strikes Back / Attack of the Clones

Return of the Jedi / Revenge of the Sith

So, in theory the new films could go:
A New Dawn
The Ghosts of War (totally making that one up)
Balance of the Force

That said, considering "episode 6" had a happy ending maybe episode 7 needs a title to bringing in
It follows the "rules" at least.

The film starting each trilogy has a subtitle with three words: A New Hope / The Phantom Menace.

The sequels then have four word subtitles

The Empire Strikes Back / Attack of the Clones

Return of the Jedi / Revenge of the Sith

So, in theory the new films could go:
A New Dawn
The Ghosts of War (totally making that one up)
Balance of the Force

That said, considering "episode 6" had a happy ending maybe episode 7 needs a title to bringing in something bad - to steal. From elsewhere let's say:

Dark Force Rising

Or I could be looking at it all wrong and the film with be called "Luke and Han get the munchies" ;-)
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12:18PM on 09/10/2013
I'm pretty sure there is no "rule" regarding the number of words in a subtitle as much as that is a coincedence.
I'm pretty sure there is no "rule" regarding the number of words in a subtitle as much as that is a coincedence.
1:20PM on 09/10/2013
The "rule" is more to do with the titles mirroring one another than the number of words they're made up of.

A New Hope (a tangible hope) / The Phantom Menace (an intangible fear)
Empire Strikes Back (bad guys attack) / Attack of the Clones (good guys attack)
Return of the Jedi (day of the good guy) / Revenge of the Sith (day of the bad guy)
The "rule" is more to do with the titles mirroring one another than the number of words they're made up of.

A New Hope (a tangible hope) / The Phantom Menace (an intangible fear)
Empire Strikes Back (bad guys attack) / Attack of the Clones (good guys attack)
Return of the Jedi (day of the good guy) / Revenge of the Sith (day of the bad guy)
7:38PM on 09/09/2013
As long as the words "Trade Federation" or "Jar Jar" do not appear anywhere in the title i'll be ok with it.
As long as the words "Trade Federation" or "Jar Jar" do not appear anywhere in the title i'll be ok with it.
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7:09PM on 09/09/2013
A New Dawn? As opposed to what? An old dawn?
They can do better than this. No need to copy episode IV, since most people I know never refer to it as "A New Hope", just as Star Wars.
A New Dawn? As opposed to what? An old dawn?
They can do better than this. No need to copy episode IV, since most people I know never refer to it as "A New Hope", just as Star Wars.
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7:03PM on 09/09/2013

HEIR TO THE EMPIRE

Let's be real here. The Empire shall rise again so the Force can once again prevail. One must have conflict in order to attain a balance within the Force.
Let's be real here. The Empire shall rise again so the Force can once again prevail. One must have conflict in order to attain a balance within the Force.
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7:36PM on 09/09/2013
Palpatine's Empire and what was left of it have been far from the only cause of conflict in the Galaxy.
Palpatine's Empire and what was left of it have been far from the only cause of conflict in the Galaxy.
10:53PM on 09/10/2013
thats timothy zahns title.....but I have to say I liked Heir to the Empire book quite a bit....and it sounds like they might follow the story a bit too....esp. with the Emperor still being alive or somethin
thats timothy zahns title.....but I have to say I liked Heir to the Empire book quite a bit....and it sounds like they might follow the story a bit too....esp. with the Emperor still being alive or somethin
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6:51PM on 09/09/2013

Personally...

I'm still banking on "Balance of the Force"
I'm still banking on "Balance of the Force"
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6:34PM on 09/09/2013
I don't like it. Too referential to A New Hope. Also, it suggests things are going to be happy. It's Star Wars, so you'd expect some kind of actual war or conflict to be going on. New Dawn doesn't convey that. I expect this one will end up being just a rumor.
I don't like it. Too referential to A New Hope. Also, it suggests things are going to be happy. It's Star Wars, so you'd expect some kind of actual war or conflict to be going on. New Dawn doesn't convey that. I expect this one will end up being just a rumor.
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6:25PM on 09/09/2013
It sounds good if I was buying dish detergent.
It sounds good if I was buying dish detergent.
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5:57PM on 09/09/2013

Shadows of the Empire

One of the greatest N64 games would make for a great title IMO. I'm not too well versed in the canon, but I know the Empire doesn't just up and vanish.
One of the greatest N64 games would make for a great title IMO. I'm not too well versed in the canon, but I know the Empire doesn't just up and vanish.
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6:33PM on 09/09/2013
A shadows of the empire movie!!! Totally.
A shadows of the empire movie!!! Totally.
5:52PM on 09/09/2013

how about this

If they could perform a Jedi mind trick on everyone and erase the first three episodes from our minds, I'd watch that in 3D Imax.
If they could perform a Jedi mind trick on everyone and erase the first three episodes from our minds, I'd watch that in 3D Imax.
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5:34PM on 09/09/2013

Sounds a bit Twilighty

to be followed by
Epidode 8: Breaking Moon?
to be followed by
Epidode 8: Breaking Moon?
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7:43PM on 09/09/2013
Dude, Star Wars Episode IV is called A New Hope, so calling it A New Dawn fits.
Dude, Star Wars Episode IV is called A New Hope, so calling it A New Dawn fits.
8:04PM on 09/09/2013
You saw the words a new dawn and immediately thought of the twilight series? You must be a big fan.
You saw the words a new dawn and immediately thought of the twilight series? You must be a big fan.
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