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Rumor: Michael B. Jordan has officially signed on to play Human Torch in Josh Trank's Fantastic Four

Oct. 18, 2013by: Jesse Giroux

Like Aaron Taylor-Johnson possibly playing Quicksilver in THE AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON, Michael B. Jordan has been rumored to play Johnny Storm AKA Human Torch for months, with nothing official coming from Fox saying the actor will appear in Josh Trank's reboot. Still no word from the studio (thus the word "rumor" in the headline), but according to Schmoes Know, Jordan has agreed to star in THE FANTASTIC FOUR. A source from Michael B. Jordan's agency has told the site that he has indeed signed on to play Human Torch for Fox.

Michael B. Jordan is currently one of the most in demand young actors working today. The FRUITVALE STATION star has also been rumored for a part in STAR WARS: EPISODE VII, and he might play Apollo Creed's grandson in the ROCKY spin-off CREED. Jordan previously worked with Josh Trank on CHRONICLE, and many expected him to reteam with the director for THE FANTASTIC FOUR, so it's been a matter of "when" and not "if" the actor would officially sign. But we can't call this a lock until we hear something from Fox, and I wouldn't be surprised if we heard something from the studio later today.

But who will be joining Michael B. Jordan, if he has signed on? The latest rumor was several actors had tested for Mr. Fantastic (Kit Harington, Miles Teller, Jack O'Connell) and Sue Storm (Kate Mara, Saoirse Ronan, Margot Robbie), and Terry Crews has expressed interest in playing The Thing. Who would you like to see star with Michael B. Jordan in THE FANTASTIC FOUR?

THE FANTASTIC FOUR is scheduled to hit theaters on March 6th, 2015.

Extra Tidbit: I know Dr. Doom is their main villain, but do you think we will see him again in THE FANTASTIC FOUR or will Josh Trank go with a different antagonist for the reboot?
Source: Schmoes Know

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9:25AM on 10/18/2013
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9:28AM on 10/18/2013
I'm cool with this. I don't give a damn what the rest of you guys think about a black Human Torch. Jordan's a decent enough actor to pull it off. The thing that I find interesting is that he has yet to deny it. A lot of the other casting rumors on here get denied pretty quickly, but nothing on this one.
I'm cool with this. I don't give a damn what the rest of you guys think about a black Human Torch. Jordan's a decent enough actor to pull it off. The thing that I find interesting is that he has yet to deny it. A lot of the other casting rumors on here get denied pretty quickly, but nothing on this one.
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1:21PM on 10/18/2013
Indeed, Jordan is a good actor, but Johnny Storm has always be white, so there's no reason to change this for (obviously) marketing reasons.
Indeed, Jordan is a good actor, but Johnny Storm has always be white, so there's no reason to change this for (obviously) marketing reasons.
9:31AM on 10/18/2013
I'm with tearlis, I'm just very indifferent to this right now. I like Michael B. Jordan, but I guess there are lots of other superhero roles he'd be more suited to playing. He did a great job as the voice of Cyborg in Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox; he could knock a live-action version out of the park.
I'm with tearlis, I'm just very indifferent to this right now. I like Michael B. Jordan, but I guess there are lots of other superhero roles he'd be more suited to playing. He did a great job as the voice of Cyborg in Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox; he could knock a live-action version out of the park.
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9:57AM on 10/18/2013
Yes agree. But that's IF DC gets their shit together
Yes agree. But that's IF DC gets their shit together
9:36AM on 10/18/2013
Hahahahaha. people are gonna get so mad. This is going to be great, the comment section that is. A bunch of fanboys who act like someone just set fire to their heads. I am almost rooting for the movie more now just to see some people either eat crow or keep dancing around how much of a problem this is
Hahahahaha. people are gonna get so mad. This is going to be great, the comment section that is. A bunch of fanboys who act like someone just set fire to their heads. I am almost rooting for the movie more now just to see some people either eat crow or keep dancing around how much of a problem this is
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2:22PM on 10/18/2013
Speaking of going haywire on a topic.

Speaking of going haywire on a topic.

2:00PM on 10/18/2013
Firstly, I was predicting people going haywire, not saying people were going haywire. I guess you just have a bigger threshold for haywire, because claiming this movie is already worse then the originals based off a RUMOR of a casting decision is certainly qualifies as hysterics. As is calling Hollywood retarded, the dumbest comment ever (talk about generalities). And as predictable as my original comment was so is the response "what? people can't disagree." Of fucking course they can! I'm not
Firstly, I was predicting people going haywire, not saying people were going haywire. I guess you just have a bigger threshold for haywire, because claiming this movie is already worse then the originals based off a RUMOR of a casting decision is certainly qualifies as hysterics. As is calling Hollywood retarded, the dumbest comment ever (talk about generalities). And as predictable as my original comment was so is the response "what? people can't disagree." Of fucking course they can! I'm not stopping them. I am just endlessly entertained by the "sky is falling" routine some fanboys have. And the only one implying that fanboys is a bad word around here is you trying to bait me into badmouthing them. I never was characterizing fanboys as a whole. In fact I literally said "bunch of/some" in my comment to try and make this clear. Sorry you decided to ignore face value and go right for the most indignant extreme. I'm gonna go back now to all insecure commenters starting their comments with "I'm not racist but...." and laugh my ass off.
1:43PM on 10/18/2013
cerealkiller182:

I get where you're going with your original comment, although I don't see anyone going haywire over the news here. Sure it's predictable that 'fanboys' react the way they do, but just as predictable are responses calling those people out for their opinions.
cerealkiller182:

I get where you're going with your original comment, although I don't see anyone going haywire over the news here. Sure it's predictable that 'fanboys' react the way they do, but just as predictable are responses calling those people out for their opinions.
12:00PM on 10/18/2013
@jasper, Please! Grow up! If you or anyone simply disagrees with the casting, then my original comment is clearly not directed at you. But people who have a conniption like Hollywood is out to get them, that's who I'm talking about.
@jasper, Please! Grow up! If you or anyone simply disagrees with the casting, then my original comment is clearly not directed at you. But people who have a conniption like Hollywood is out to get them, that's who I'm talking about.
11:49AM on 10/18/2013
I'm with you, dude. Couldn't be happier.
I'm with you, dude. Couldn't be happier.
11:42AM on 10/18/2013
Hmm, so people can't just disagree with the casting of a film and be vocal about it. Nope, one has to be a 'fanboy' to do that.

Ever notice how the those people who don't like the casting do not resort to using generalizations about those people who are okay with the casting idea? Strange.
Hmm, so people can't just disagree with the casting of a film and be vocal about it. Nope, one has to be a 'fanboy' to do that.

Ever notice how the those people who don't like the casting do not resort to using generalizations about those people who are okay with the casting idea? Strange.
9:50AM on 10/18/2013
Whatever. I hope this bombs so it can go back to Marvel where it belongs.

I just don't understand why they had to cast him. The character is White. Cast a White actor.
Whatever. I hope this bombs so it can go back to Marvel where it belongs.

I just don't understand why they had to cast him. The character is White. Cast a White actor.
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5:21PM on 10/18/2013
Guaranteed you have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

I can see it now....The Fantastic Four. Brought to you by BET.
Guaranteed you have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

I can see it now....The Fantastic Four. Brought to you by BET.
4:36PM on 10/18/2013
Guarantee Soloist you say this is one of your favorite movies of the year by the time it comes out.
Guarantee Soloist you say this is one of your favorite movies of the year by the time it comes out.
3:12PM on 10/18/2013
Ugh because he's based off a comic book character who isn't real so if a director decides to change his race, it's their interpretation of the character not them attempting to piss off the "devoted" fan base who don't like change in the comics, but complain when things become too repetitive.
Ugh because he's based off a comic book character who isn't real so if a director decides to change his race, it's their interpretation of the character not them attempting to piss off the "devoted" fan base who don't like change in the comics, but complain when things become too repetitive.
9:55AM on 10/18/2013
The guy is a great actor, it's just that I just don't like when an established character who has been around for years is all of a sudden changed in some way or another.

I mean how many people would flip out if he were casted as the new Batman? A lot.

The guy is a great actor, it's just that I just don't like when an established character who has been around for years is all of a sudden changed in some way or another.

I mean how many people would flip out if he were casted as the new Batman? A lot.

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9:52AM on 10/18/2013
And I am officially not going to see this movie....ever!
And I am officially not going to see this movie....ever!
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10:17AM on 10/18/2013
Also the only reason I would be bothered by a Channing Tatum Blade is because Tatum is an awful actor.
Also the only reason I would be bothered by a Channing Tatum Blade is because Tatum is an awful actor.
10:14AM on 10/18/2013
But saying this movie is already worse than the last 2, which I highly doubt is even possible, just because of the only casting rumor which is still only rumor IS RIDICULOUS
But saying this movie is already worse than the last 2, which I highly doubt is even possible, just because of the only casting rumor which is still only rumor IS RIDICULOUS
10:03AM on 10/18/2013
Johnny Storm is White. This is terrible casting.

How about we cast Channing Tatum as Blade and see how everyone enjoys that decision.
Johnny Storm is White. This is terrible casting.

How about we cast Channing Tatum as Blade and see how everyone enjoys that decision.
9:58AM on 10/18/2013
@Soloist, what a ridiculous statement!
@Soloist, what a ridiculous statement!
9:57AM on 10/18/2013
So far the first two films are already better than this piece of shit film.

Again, I hope this fails at the box office, so that the right to back to Marvel.
So far the first two films are already better than this piece of shit film.

Again, I hope this fails at the box office, so that the right to back to Marvel.
9:58AM on 10/18/2013
Nothing against Jordan. He may be a great actor. I really don't know. But I do not find it as inspired casting because it shakes up the entire mythology of the Fantastic Four. Johnny and Sue storm are siblings. It won't feel intuitive. If they are going to reboot the FF they should really try and do it right.
Nothing against Jordan. He may be a great actor. I really don't know. But I do not find it as inspired casting because it shakes up the entire mythology of the Fantastic Four. Johnny and Sue storm are siblings. It won't feel intuitive. If they are going to reboot the FF they should really try and do it right.
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3:11PM on 10/18/2013
So you're saying if a white woman (if Sue is white) has a black brother, it won't feel intuitive? What world are you living in?
So you're saying if a white woman (if Sue is white) has a black brother, it won't feel intuitive? What world are you living in?
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10:04AM on 10/18/2013
I agree with some peoples concerns about throwing off the mythology of film. However to someone or people, why does he have to be white? Isn't that ridiculous? Your statement about "What would people have done if he was cast as Batman?" I would totally be for Idris Elba being Bruce Wayne/Batman. You sound like a narrow minded prick. Now if you don't agree with the casting simply because you believe it throws off the mythology, feel it's a poor casting choice, etc. Then by all means express
I agree with some peoples concerns about throwing off the mythology of film. However to someone or people, why does he have to be white? Isn't that ridiculous? Your statement about "What would people have done if he was cast as Batman?" I would totally be for Idris Elba being Bruce Wayne/Batman. You sound like a narrow minded prick. Now if you don't agree with the casting simply because you believe it throws off the mythology, feel it's a poor casting choice, etc. Then by all means express those feelings, as they're valid opinions. But "He's a white dude, make him white." Yeah well so was Nick Fury at one time until he was reimagined for the Ultimate comics and we got Samuel L. Jackson; and needless to say folks have been pretty damn happy.

As for me, I applaud the casting barring it's done right and they maintain the Sue/Johnny sibling ties.
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10:13AM on 10/18/2013
I really think this cast needs to be older, every casting rumor they've thrown at us so far are people I'd never buy as seasoned scientists.
I really think this cast needs to be older, every casting rumor they've thrown at us so far are people I'd never buy as seasoned scientists.
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12:02PM on 10/18/2013
If they went older I wouldn't think of it as a slight or anything, but go young is definitely an accurate and do-able approach. I think they are even young in the Ultimate comics
If they went older I wouldn't think of it as a slight or anything, but go young is definitely an accurate and do-able approach. I think they are even young in the Ultimate comics
11:49AM on 10/18/2013
@cerealkiller182: Very true but I think everyone should at least be in their 30's and look like they've actually done something beyond a university research paper. I know that's a tough look to go for but everyone just looks too young to me. Someone around Michael Fassbender's age should play Reed Richards I think and Susan Storm shouldn't be much younger.

@Vertigo: Johnny I can accept being younger but Michael still looks like he's barely out of high school in my opinion.
@cerealkiller182: Very true but I think everyone should at least be in their 30's and look like they've actually done something beyond a university research paper. I know that's a tough look to go for but everyone just looks too young to me. Someone around Michael Fassbender's age should play Reed Richards I think and Susan Storm shouldn't be much younger.

@Vertigo: Johnny I can accept being younger but Michael still looks like he's barely out of high school in my opinion.
10:16AM on 10/18/2013
It actually fits though Johnny was always the youngest of the group, in the comics he went on the space mission that was hit with the cosmic radiation with Sue, Reed, and Ben when he was only 16.
It actually fits though Johnny was always the youngest of the group, in the comics he went on the space mission that was hit with the cosmic radiation with Sue, Reed, and Ben when he was only 16.
10:15AM on 10/18/2013
Reed Richards was really the only seasoned scientist, and in the comics he was a child prodigy. In the original origin, he was in his 20s.
Reed Richards was really the only seasoned scientist, and in the comics he was a child prodigy. In the original origin, he was in his 20s.
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10:14AM on 10/18/2013
You can still make Sue and Johnny siblings. It's not impossible to have a white and black pair of siblings. In the "Nick Fury" part of the debate, he's not really a main character and it worked in the Ultimate comics and Sam Jackson makes it work now. Also, Ultimate's comic version Fury is drawn after Jackson which made it even cooler that he took on the role. As for Torch, being a main character, I can see why people prefer him to be white and keep true to the character origins. Whatever
You can still make Sue and Johnny siblings. It's not impossible to have a white and black pair of siblings. In the "Nick Fury" part of the debate, he's not really a main character and it worked in the Ultimate comics and Sam Jackson makes it work now. Also, Ultimate's comic version Fury is drawn after Jackson which made it even cooler that he took on the role. As for Torch, being a main character, I can see why people prefer him to be white and keep true to the character origins. Whatever happens happens.
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10:29AM on 10/18/2013
The next casting announcement we'll hear will be Kerry Washington returning to the Fantastic Four cinematic world as Sue Storm. This isn't a race issue it's a story issue. Filmmakers are always trying to approach these comics with their own vision and at the same time alienate 50 years worth of fans.
The next casting announcement we'll hear will be Kerry Washington returning to the Fantastic Four cinematic world as Sue Storm. This isn't a race issue it's a story issue. Filmmakers are always trying to approach these comics with their own vision and at the same time alienate 50 years worth of fans.
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11:50AM on 10/18/2013
Kerry Washington is WAY hotter and FAR more talented than Alba could ever be. I'd vote her in a second.
Kerry Washington is WAY hotter and FAR more talented than Alba could ever be. I'd vote her in a second.
11:09AM on 10/18/2013
I'd watch the hell out of Kerry Washington in an FF uniform!
I'd watch the hell out of Kerry Washington in an FF uniform!
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10:38AM on 10/18/2013
"Lame on!"

"Lame on!"

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11:17AM on 10/18/2013

I want Kerry Washington

Period. I also think if Johnny Storm is black then Sue Storm should also be black. Seriously, ideally for the role of siblings you want people who look like they could be brother and sister.
Period. I also think if Johnny Storm is black then Sue Storm should also be black. Seriously, ideally for the role of siblings you want people who look like they could be brother and sister.
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11:21AM on 10/18/2013
They need to shut down this entire reboot plan. So far the news keeps getting worse and worse.
They need to shut down this entire reboot plan. So far the news keeps getting worse and worse.
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11:30AM on 10/18/2013
Can you imagine if they actually made a Fantastic 4 reboot that was WORSE than the original? Just mind-boggling....
Can you imagine if they actually made a Fantastic 4 reboot that was WORSE than the original? Just mind-boggling....
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11:23AM on 10/18/2013
I love how you keep putting " Terry Crews has expressed interest in playing The Thing" in to these stories. Still, a black Johnny...a Black Ben....possibly a black Sue if the sibling link is to be retained...and/or some adopted plot isn't deployed....and well...I don't know. Let's just hope the movie is good...I'd let it all go...probably.
I love how you keep putting " Terry Crews has expressed interest in playing The Thing" in to these stories. Still, a black Johnny...a Black Ben....possibly a black Sue if the sibling link is to be retained...and/or some adopted plot isn't deployed....and well...I don't know. Let's just hope the movie is good...I'd let it all go...probably.
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7:25PM on 10/18/2013
Fanblacksic four? really? Have fun trying to convince people you're not prejudice.
Fanblacksic four? really? Have fun trying to convince people you're not prejudice.
7:25PM on 10/18/2013
Fanblacksic four? really? Have fun trying to convince people you're not prejudice.
Fanblacksic four? really? Have fun trying to convince people you're not prejudice.
1:07PM on 10/18/2013
Yeah, let's do the Fanblackstic Four !
Yeah, let's do the Fanblackstic Four !
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11:29AM on 10/18/2013

WTF????

Okay, so you want a black guy to be Sue Storm's brother? Is everyone in Hollywood retarded, or is it just the people who work on most comic book movies?

Oh yeah, and Kate Mara is a goddess, but would be the worst Sue Storm imaginable (even worse than Jessica Alba). Terrible casting ideas.....
Okay, so you want a black guy to be Sue Storm's brother? Is everyone in Hollywood retarded, or is it just the people who work on most comic book movies?

Oh yeah, and Kate Mara is a goddess, but would be the worst Sue Storm imaginable (even worse than Jessica Alba). Terrible casting ideas.....
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11:50AM on 10/18/2013
Worse than Alba? Ninja, you crazy.
Worse than Alba? Ninja, you crazy.
11:43AM on 10/18/2013

YES!

I want this to be true, so badly. If for nothing else, just to upset you skin color obsessed fuck sticks.
Get a diaper change and get over it.
I want this to be true, so badly. If for nothing else, just to upset you skin color obsessed fuck sticks.
Get a diaper change and get over it.
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2:26PM on 10/18/2013
John Voight is Mandela? Mandela is an actual person. Make a better case. And I'm not talking about Black Panther .

I'm with Preston too. And most of his thumbs down are from racists. Clearly.
John Voight is Mandela? Mandela is an actual person. Make a better case. And I'm not talking about Black Panther .

I'm with Preston too. And most of his thumbs down are from racists. Clearly.
2:14PM on 10/18/2013
Preston - I'm right there with you. This is just getting silly.

Nivekian - I think we found the problem. You can't tell the difference between fictional characters and real people.. Hmm, that's kinda sad.
Preston - I'm right there with you. This is just getting silly.

Nivekian - I think we found the problem. You can't tell the difference between fictional characters and real people.. Hmm, that's kinda sad.
1:42PM on 10/18/2013
"Skin color obsessed" eh? Lets cast Jon Voight as Nelson Mandela and see if you feel the same way.
"Skin color obsessed" eh? Lets cast Jon Voight as Nelson Mandela and see if you feel the same way.
1:04PM on 10/18/2013
Excuse my French (NOT what I'm about to write) but...
Va te faire enculer, conard !
Excuse my French (NOT what I'm about to write) but...
Va te faire enculer, conard !
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11:47AM on 10/18/2013
This remake will make the first two movies look like Oscar winner.
This remake will make the first two movies look like Oscar winner.
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11:52AM on 10/18/2013
At this rate I'll never see Doom and Iron Man throw down
At this rate I'll never see Doom and Iron Man throw down
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1:56PM on 10/18/2013
Doom would waste IM, without a doubt.
Doom would waste IM, without a doubt.
11:52AM on 10/18/2013
Holy crap is this place biased. Don't just give me thumbs down without answering. Why are comics allowed to reinvent characters on a regular basis, but movies aren't?
Holy crap is this place biased. Don't just give me thumbs down without answering. Why are comics allowed to reinvent characters on a regular basis, but movies aren't?
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8:38AM on 10/20/2013
If they want to make Johnny black then make Sue black too. I would scream if Sue were white when her brother is black. They want to be hip so they make Johnny black but they won't make Sue black? What are they going to do? Say that johnny is adopted rather than hire a black actress? That's a contrived way of avoiding making Sue black.
If they want to make Johnny black then make Sue black too. I would scream if Sue were white when her brother is black. They want to be hip so they make Johnny black but they won't make Sue black? What are they going to do? Say that johnny is adopted rather than hire a black actress? That's a contrived way of avoiding making Sue black.
6:34PM on 10/18/2013
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All 3 are from alternate lines: Ultimate for Marvel, Earth 2 for DC
And even in the Ultimate Line none of the FF were black
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All 3 are from alternate lines: Ultimate for Marvel, Earth 2 for DC
And even in the Ultimate Line none of the FF were black
2:31PM on 10/18/2013
@Cathelotte

Then explain Ultron when he became a she, Ultimate Nick Fury being black, or Alan Scott being gay.
@Cathelotte

Then explain Ultron when he became a she, Ultimate Nick Fury being black, or Alan Scott being gay.
1:47PM on 10/18/2013
@Cathelotte, They can still do FF with Michael B. Jordan. it doesn't stop it from being FF just because the characters don't look ripped from the page. I like to think they are more than just their illustrations. Jordan would make a better Torch than Shia Labeouf. Or Robert Pattinson. Being a certain race doesn't automatically make it better or worse.
@Cathelotte, They can still do FF with Michael B. Jordan. it doesn't stop it from being FF just because the characters don't look ripped from the page. I like to think they are more than just their illustrations. Jordan would make a better Torch than Shia Labeouf. Or Robert Pattinson. Being a certain race doesn't automatically make it better or worse.
1:29PM on 10/18/2013
Well, if you want to adapt a material to the screen, then adapt it, don't invent something different... Maybe you'd like Fox to go the WWZ way and throw about everything of the original story...
They want FF, then DO FF !
Beside, most if the,time, when they reinvent the characters in comics, it's a NEW person under the mask (Green Lantern, Ultimate Spiderman...), and when it's not, 9 time out of 10, the old status quo is back within a year.
Well, if you want to adapt a material to the screen, then adapt it, don't invent something different... Maybe you'd like Fox to go the WWZ way and throw about everything of the original story...
They want FF, then DO FF !
Beside, most if the,time, when they reinvent the characters in comics, it's a NEW person under the mask (Green Lantern, Ultimate Spiderman...), and when it's not, 9 time out of 10, the old status quo is back within a year.
11:57AM on 10/18/2013
Exactly. Why do changes have to take place on paper first? There's no good reason. Only about 5% or even less of the audience is even familiar with the various back stories.
Exactly. Why do changes have to take place on paper first? There's no good reason. Only about 5% or even less of the audience is even familiar with the various back stories.
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12:11PM on 10/18/2013
I don't know shit about this comic but Jordan is a decent actor. Not judging anything until I see a trailer.
I don't know shit about this comic but Jordan is a decent actor. Not judging anything until I see a trailer.
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12:11PM on 10/18/2013
At this rate I wouldn't be surprised if the villain was The Wiz.
At this rate I wouldn't be surprised if the villain was The Wiz.
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12:22PM on 10/18/2013
I like Michael B. Jordan so I'm down for his casting, I don't really care if he is black just make sure there is a good explanation why he is black and Sue Storm is white. I just want to make sure everyone saying it doesn't matter that he is black, which it doesn't, won't care if a largely known black character is played by a white actor, which I would be fine with too. But, it isn't a competition though just cast the best actor for the part.
I like Michael B. Jordan so I'm down for his casting, I don't really care if he is black just make sure there is a good explanation why he is black and Sue Storm is white. I just want to make sure everyone saying it doesn't matter that he is black, which it doesn't, won't care if a largely known black character is played by a white actor, which I would be fine with too. But, it isn't a competition though just cast the best actor for the part.
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12:43PM on 10/18/2013

nooooooooooooo

im not a racist but.......NO just NO johnny storm is a white guy and should be played by a white actor. so now since johnny and sus are siblings that means sue should be played by niki manaj come on Hollywood, get it right remember how bad the remake of the hunnymooners was ughhhhh i will not watch this
im not a racist but.......NO just NO johnny storm is a white guy and should be played by a white actor. so now since johnny and sus are siblings that means sue should be played by niki manaj come on Hollywood, get it right remember how bad the remake of the hunnymooners was ughhhhh i will not watch this
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1:41PM on 10/18/2013
@Nivekian, it's not as comparable as you'd like to think.
@Nivekian, it's not as comparable as you'd like to think.
1:36PM on 10/18/2013
Don't buy into that arguement. It's not racist to see a white comic character portrayed by a white guy. How do you think the people screaming "you're racist" would feel about Rhodey or Black panther being cast as a white guy? They would REALLY flip out.
Don't buy into that arguement. It's not racist to see a white comic character portrayed by a white guy. How do you think the people screaming "you're racist" would feel about Rhodey or Black panther being cast as a white guy? They would REALLY flip out.
1:00PM on 10/18/2013
Would the honeymooners remake have been better if they were white?
Would the honeymooners remake have been better if they were white?
1:17PM on 10/18/2013

Jordan being a good actor (he IS) is NOT the point !

White in the comics, white in the movies, PERIOD !
And don't start with the Nick Fury bullshit, he's ALWAYS been black in the Ultimate Line, and the MCU is clearly more based on it.
White in the comics, white in the movies, PERIOD !
And don't start with the Nick Fury bullshit, he's ALWAYS been black in the Ultimate Line, and the MCU is clearly more based on it.
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6:31PM on 10/18/2013
@Nivekian
By MCU I meant Marvel Cinematic Universe, of course, not Marvel Comics Universe... But the change in Fury's origins in the Ultimate Line was logical considering the purpose of the line (just my opinion, of course) to modernise the Marvel Universe as if it was created today.
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By MCU I meant Marvel Cinematic Universe, of course, not Marvel Comics Universe... But the change in Fury's origins in the Ultimate Line was logical considering the purpose of the line (just my opinion, of course) to modernise the Marvel Universe as if it was created today.
1:51PM on 10/18/2013
agreed nick fury was always black and it wasnt molded to fit the need of sj
agreed nick fury was always black and it wasnt molded to fit the need of sj
1:42PM on 10/18/2013
It hasn't screwed with continuity. It just changed it. There's a difference
It hasn't screwed with continuity. It just changed it. There's a difference
1:40PM on 10/18/2013
Except Nick Fury being black/ regular human really screwed up continuity, especially with his Howling Commandos/ SHIELD history. in the MCU, Fury is just there in command, in the comics with the original Fury, you see why he is in charge, and a player.
Except Nick Fury being black/ regular human really screwed up continuity, especially with his Howling Commandos/ SHIELD history. in the MCU, Fury is just there in command, in the comics with the original Fury, you see why he is in charge, and a player.
1:22PM on 10/18/2013

I love him

I don't mind them being not-white at all, I'm more worried about them being the right age. He seems OK but if they cast a 20 year old as Sue it will be ridiculous. Isn't she supposed to have a PhD?
I don't mind them being not-white at all, I'm more worried about them being the right age. He seems OK but if they cast a 20 year old as Sue it will be ridiculous. Isn't she supposed to have a PhD?
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1:35PM on 10/18/2013

Give the rights back to Marvel

Stupid nonsensical race-swapping crap.
Stupid nonsensical race-swapping crap.
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1:45PM on 10/18/2013
Oh no! The SKY IS FALLING!!!!
Oh no! The SKY IS FALLING!!!!
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1:49PM on 10/18/2013

Reason for the race switch

When someone comes out from the Negative Zone, it changes a man.
When someone comes out from the Negative Zone, it changes a man.
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6:27PM on 10/18/2013
Well, it happened ONCE and ONLY the costume were changed... But it's a nice Byrne area reference...
Well, it happened ONCE and ONLY the costume were changed... But it's a nice Byrne area reference...
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2:07PM on 10/18/2013
I'm amazed at all the people that have to put "not racist but he shouldn't get the part because he's black". Why does it really matter? The kid is a really great actor and they might be able to bring something NEW and EXCITING to the franchise. We all saw the last two movies and they were OK at best. So they change the mythology up a bit. Isn't that refreshing? Go read some old comics or watch the first two movies if you want the same stories over and over again. Make them adopted or half
I'm amazed at all the people that have to put "not racist but he shouldn't get the part because he's black". Why does it really matter? The kid is a really great actor and they might be able to bring something NEW and EXCITING to the franchise. We all saw the last two movies and they were OK at best. So they change the mythology up a bit. Isn't that refreshing? Go read some old comics or watch the first two movies if you want the same stories over and over again. Make them adopted or half siblings whatever as long as it makes sense and the story is amazing I really don't care. You may not understand it if you are white but different ethnicities don't get a lot of love in the superhero department and when they do it's relegated to a horrible stereotype. Changing up the status quo can be good for a franchise. I think FOX knows that and they need to throw a curve ball and mix things up a bit. Look at how well the Miles Morales Spiderman is doing. I'm hoping that they take the Spiderman franchise in that same direction when they are ready to move on from this current version. Because who can HONESTLY say they want to see the same origin stories done every couple of years with different people? Can't we all agree that the Sam Jackson Fury is a million times better than the Hasslehoff one? Not because of race but because of the caliber of actor.
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8:28AM on 10/20/2013
^ This. I also upvote comments I agree with. I wish I could upvote replies.
^ This. I also upvote comments I agree with. I wish I could upvote replies.
12:20AM on 10/19/2013
If I disagree wit someone I down vote them. Why should I waste the time to write hey everything you just said... Well I disagree. Seems kind of dumb to me. Obviously a lot of people disagreed with you and didn't feel the need to write it out. I guess a lot of people need to grow up on this site.
If I disagree wit someone I down vote them. Why should I waste the time to write hey everything you just said... Well I disagree. Seems kind of dumb to me. Obviously a lot of people disagreed with you and didn't feel the need to write it out. I guess a lot of people need to grow up on this site.
4:33PM on 10/18/2013
I've learned to not give two shits about the votes here anymore. People are taking the easy way out now a days, why respond with opposing ideas when you can just click "dislike"?

Anyways, I completely agree with you mfire, the over reaction on this is absurd, and you're exactly right on the "not racist but shouldn't get the role bit" that people are putting here, it's actually funny to see people put that so that other online people (that they've never met) won't think they're racist.
I've learned to not give two shits about the votes here anymore. People are taking the easy way out now a days, why respond with opposing ideas when you can just click "dislike"?

Anyways, I completely agree with you mfire, the over reaction on this is absurd, and you're exactly right on the "not racist but shouldn't get the role bit" that people are putting here, it's actually funny to see people put that so that other online people (that they've never met) won't think they're racist.

As for your opinion, I completely agree, God forbid a studio take a chance at casting someone who may knock the human torch role out of the park even if they don't look like the comic interpretation. Could it backfire? Possibly, but Jordan can act, he was amazing in Chronicle and I look forward to what kind of take he gives the Johnny Storm.

Consider yourself getting one less thumbs down, as for this thread, unfortunately we've been swallowed up in a sea of ignorance.
3:27PM on 10/18/2013
I love the negative votes without a comment thus proving how weak your argument is. Grow up. Notice that no one has said a thing about his acting ability just his color.
I love the negative votes without a comment thus proving how weak your argument is. Grow up. Notice that no one has said a thing about his acting ability just his color.
3:00PM on 10/18/2013

Seriously

This is what people are bitching about? That he's Black? This is a reboot, right? It's not like this is a Biography and Human Torch had to be white. It's not like he was cast to play Hitler or Tom Cruise to play Malcom X. Where was the complaints when Tom Cruise starred in "The LAST Samari" or Brad Pitt in "the Mexican" or "The Last Nigga on Earth" starring Tom Hanks!!!- Thanks Paul Mooney from Dave Chappelle Show. Bottom line is the first two were terrible and I doubt it matters who the cast
This is what people are bitching about? That he's Black? This is a reboot, right? It's not like this is a Biography and Human Torch had to be white. It's not like he was cast to play Hitler or Tom Cruise to play Malcom X. Where was the complaints when Tom Cruise starred in "The LAST Samari" or Brad Pitt in "the Mexican" or "The Last Nigga on Earth" starring Tom Hanks!!!- Thanks Paul Mooney from Dave Chappelle Show. Bottom line is the first two were terrible and I doubt it matters who the cast is, this one will probably suck too.
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2:49AM on 10/19/2013
Id pay to watch that Tom Hanks movie though.
Id pay to watch that Tom Hanks movie though.
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3:07PM on 10/18/2013

So much for most of our country moving pass racism

People are getting upset because a character who's race has never been important is being played by a black actor, seriously? I could understand if people were upset about Black Panther being white or hispanic, but the Human Torch?
People are getting upset because a character who's race has never been important is being played by a black actor, seriously? I could understand if people were upset about Black Panther being white or hispanic, but the Human Torch?
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2:50AM on 10/19/2013
So its racist to want a character to stay the way they were created?
So its racist to want a character to stay the way they were created?
6:25PM on 10/18/2013
So it's OK for a black character to be played by a black actor, but a black character can't be played by a white actor...
That sound rather... RACIST
So it's OK for a black character to be played by a black actor, but a black character can't be played by a white actor...
That sound rather... RACIST
3:37PM on 10/18/2013

It's still a rumour, folks

Michael B. Jordan's a fine actor, and he'd make a good Johnny Storm, but I really hope they make Sue Storm black as well if he's actually cast. Otherwise, there's really no point.

Oh, and if you're post begins with, "I'm not racist, but . . ." then you really need to take a long, unflinching look at yourself.
Michael B. Jordan's a fine actor, and he'd make a good Johnny Storm, but I really hope they make Sue Storm black as well if he's actually cast. Otherwise, there's really no point.

Oh, and if you're post begins with, "I'm not racist, but . . ." then you really need to take a long, unflinching look at yourself.
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7:08PM on 10/18/2013
It is strange that they feel the need to qualify. I mean, there are people claiming racism, but those people are just as misguided about the issue.
It is strange that they feel the need to qualify. I mean, there are people claiming racism, but those people are just as misguided about the issue.
4:05PM on 10/18/2013
He could be a adopted if Sue is still caucasian, or vice versa.
He could be a adopted if Sue is still caucasian, or vice versa.
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4:02PM on 10/18/2013
FUCK YOU FOX
FUCK YOU FOX
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9:48PM on 10/18/2013
I love your comment.
I love your comment.
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4:03PM on 10/18/2013
Hope this does end up being true, its a breath of fresh air that the FF franchise needs.
Hope this does end up being true, its a breath of fresh air that the FF franchise needs.
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4:26PM on 10/18/2013

F it

Fanboys shut the hell up for a minute and actually wait until some footage is shown before you throw your temper tantrums and act like this is a crime against nature. It's a black actor playing a white character, BIG FUCKING DEAL! Grow up, go outside, take a deep breath and maybe you'll realize there are worse things happening in movies and in the world than this.

As for your downvotes, whatever, I'd rather be shunned by a bunch of morons than be praised by them.
Fanboys shut the hell up for a minute and actually wait until some footage is shown before you throw your temper tantrums and act like this is a crime against nature. It's a black actor playing a white character, BIG FUCKING DEAL! Grow up, go outside, take a deep breath and maybe you'll realize there are worse things happening in movies and in the world than this.

As for your downvotes, whatever, I'd rather be shunned by a bunch of morons than be praised by them.
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4:32PM on 10/18/2013

This is cool! But......

If Johnny Storm is black, Sue Storm better be black too. I really hope they don't do the "adopted" bullshit. It amazes me how many people are upset about the fact that The Human Torch could possibly be African American. So are you saying the movie would be better if he was white? Chris Evans was white in the previous Fantastic Four films and they were pretty disappointing.
If Johnny Storm is black, Sue Storm better be black too. I really hope they don't do the "adopted" bullshit. It amazes me how many people are upset about the fact that The Human Torch could possibly be African American. So are you saying the movie would be better if he was white? Chris Evans was white in the previous Fantastic Four films and they were pretty disappointing.
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8:14AM on 10/20/2013
If Johnny and Sue are not brother and sister then why do they both have the name Storm?
If Johnny and Sue are not brother and sister then why do they both have the name Storm?
4:57PM on 10/18/2013
Okay, but how does that affect things story wise? If Sue and Johnny grew up together in the same household (adopted sibling or not) wouldn't they still consider themselves family?

Clearly you have to know people in your life that aren't blood related that you consider family. Why should blood relation/race make any kind of difference in terms of plot/story?

If Dr. Doom creates a devise that destroys all people of a certain skin tone then maybe you got something, but I don't think the
Okay, but how does that affect things story wise? If Sue and Johnny grew up together in the same household (adopted sibling or not) wouldn't they still consider themselves family?

Clearly you have to know people in your life that aren't blood related that you consider family. Why should blood relation/race make any kind of difference in terms of plot/story?

If Dr. Doom creates a devise that destroys all people of a certain skin tone then maybe you got something, but I don't think the people behind the reboot are clever enough to come up with something like that.
4:44PM on 10/18/2013
@zombie3298 - It matters because Johnny and Sue are BROTHER AND SISTER. They are not adopted siblings. They are related by blood, which is why Sue should be African American as well.
@zombie3298 - It matters because Johnny and Sue are BROTHER AND SISTER. They are not adopted siblings. They are related by blood, which is why Sue should be African American as well.
4:34PM on 10/18/2013
just curious, why would the adopted angle be BS? I can see why if they focus an entire film over it, but in terms of seeing The F4 fight dr. Doom, why does it matter if torch is black and susan storm is white?
just curious, why would the adopted angle be BS? I can see why if they focus an entire film over it, but in terms of seeing The F4 fight dr. Doom, why does it matter if torch is black and susan storm is white?
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4:44PM on 10/18/2013
So youre a racist because you want your comic book characters cast true to their roots and history and not about having some up and coming newcomer to lure a certain demographic group into the movie (and thats the whole point about that stunt casting)? Thats got to be the most stupid coment ever!!!
So youre a racist because you want your comic book characters cast true to their roots and history and not about having some up and coming newcomer to lure a certain demographic group into the movie (and thats the whole point about that stunt casting)? Thats got to be the most stupid coment ever!!!
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7:06PM on 10/18/2013
I don't think they are racist, that's way TOO harsh, but if you are more concerned that the actor looks ripped straight from the pages than the actor can actually nail the performance, I do think your priorities are out of whack. I like to think these characters are more than their illustrations. Because at the end of the day, if they find a white guy to placate fans who would do a worse job than Jordan that's not a good thing. Could there be a white guy who would do a better job? Maybe. What
I don't think they are racist, that's way TOO harsh, but if you are more concerned that the actor looks ripped straight from the pages than the actor can actually nail the performance, I do think your priorities are out of whack. I like to think these characters are more than their illustrations. Because at the end of the day, if they find a white guy to placate fans who would do a worse job than Jordan that's not a good thing. Could there be a white guy who would do a better job? Maybe. What if there isn't though? Why would you waste a good performance on something as superficial as skin color?
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5:05PM on 10/18/2013

Wrong Casting... AGAIN!

A black actor? Really?! Why do they keep getting this wrong?

The Human Torch is bright red. Jeez. Get it right Hollywood!
A black actor? Really?! Why do they keep getting this wrong?

The Human Torch is bright red. Jeez. Get it right Hollywood!
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7:14PM on 10/18/2013

I've been out on this movie for a while

No thanks, give it back to Marvel
No thanks, give it back to Marvel
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7:54PM on 10/18/2013

Let It Go

The producers should just let this one go. Hollywood should re-imagine or make proper sequels to Hulk, Daredevil, The Punisher(they really messed up with Frank), Constantine, Ghost Rider
We also need movies like Lobo , Deadpool, Preacher (maybe by 2100 we'll have this one)
The producers should just let this one go. Hollywood should re-imagine or make proper sequels to Hulk, Daredevil, The Punisher(they really messed up with Frank), Constantine, Ghost Rider
We also need movies like Lobo , Deadpool, Preacher (maybe by 2100 we'll have this one)
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10:34PM on 10/18/2013
Instead of hijacking already established personas, get some creativity and make up new black, Hispanic, gay characters too your hearts content. Don't even try and say its racist to be against this casting because if someone cast a white actor in a black role people would go ape shit.
Instead of hijacking already established personas, get some creativity and make up new black, Hispanic, gay characters too your hearts content. Don't even try and say its racist to be against this casting because if someone cast a white actor in a black role people would go ape shit.
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3:03AM on 10/19/2013
Jake Gyllenhaal in Prince of Persia, Johnny Depp in The Lone Ranger, Dominic Cooper as Uday Hussain (and that's a freakin biopic!), nobody went apeshit. The slightest "rumour" that a black actor is playing a white character and the Internet fanboys like yourself come out to proclaim their disgust right before they sneak off to post YouTube comments about how Obama has ruined the country or how hip-hop artists aren't talented they're just stupid. If you continue to show disgust at the race of a
Jake Gyllenhaal in Prince of Persia, Johnny Depp in The Lone Ranger, Dominic Cooper as Uday Hussain (and that's a freakin biopic!), nobody went apeshit. The slightest "rumour" that a black actor is playing a white character and the Internet fanboys like yourself come out to proclaim their disgust right before they sneak off to post YouTube comments about how Obama has ruined the country or how hip-hop artists aren't talented they're just stupid. If you continue to show disgust at the race of a certain character and can't even show evidence to support your claims of "no way would this be acceptable the other round" then really DO NOT be surprised if the racism claims come out...seeing as your complaining about race and all.
10:57PM on 10/18/2013
Could not agree more. People calling other people racist because of it, can really go fuck themselves.
Could not agree more. People calling other people racist because of it, can really go fuck themselves.
11:48PM on 10/18/2013
I've never had to say to anyone "I'm not racist, but..." Because I don't say shit that could be construe as racist. It's really that easy. Give it a try some time.
I've never had to say to anyone "I'm not racist, but..." Because I don't say shit that could be construe as racist. It's really that easy. Give it a try some time.
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2:08AM on 10/19/2013

Just Awful

I love me my Marvel but this news makes me want to puke. I swear that crapping on 50 years of history means that I will NOT pay to see this crap. This will be the first Marvel character film I will not support in any way. Fox is going to lose a lot of their base with this casting. This coming from a guy that literally lost count at how many times I paid for Iron Man 3 tickets this very summer.
I love me my Marvel but this news makes me want to puke. I swear that crapping on 50 years of history means that I will NOT pay to see this crap. This will be the first Marvel character film I will not support in any way. Fox is going to lose a lot of their base with this casting. This coming from a guy that literally lost count at how many times I paid for Iron Man 3 tickets this very summer.
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5:26AM on 10/19/2013
Fuck, as they say, this movie right in the pooper.
Fuck, as they say, this movie right in the pooper.
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8:52AM on 10/19/2013
Lets face it they miscast galactus with a cloud so whos surprised
Lets face it they miscast galactus with a cloud so whos surprised
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9:58AM on 10/19/2013
Damn, people here in America are still so obsessed with race. How hard can it be to look past the color of the guy's skin, knowing the character's race has nothing to do with the story? If you want an accurate portrait of the Fantastic 4, read the comic. Otherwise, understand this is the movie and like or not they change shit in movies. Movies hardly ever stick to the original material. They simply use it as a foundation and create their own vision.
Damn, people here in America are still so obsessed with race. How hard can it be to look past the color of the guy's skin, knowing the character's race has nothing to do with the story? If you want an accurate portrait of the Fantastic 4, read the comic. Otherwise, understand this is the movie and like or not they change shit in movies. Movies hardly ever stick to the original material. They simply use it as a foundation and create their own vision.
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3:26PM on 10/19/2013
First off, because it's PC bullshite. This is just Hollywood being racist themselves and making race an issue when it shouldn't be. Second, I'm sorry but it's this simple, Johnny Storm IS white. That's it! I mean, Sue Storm is known for being a gorgeous blonde bombshell, and her brother is Johnny, so yeah, they're both white. It shouldn't be a big deal, but Fox is making it a big deal.
First off, because it's PC bullshite. This is just Hollywood being racist themselves and making race an issue when it shouldn't be. Second, I'm sorry but it's this simple, Johnny Storm IS white. That's it! I mean, Sue Storm is known for being a gorgeous blonde bombshell, and her brother is Johnny, so yeah, they're both white. It shouldn't be a big deal, but Fox is making it a big deal.
10:26AM on 10/19/2013

Not upset, but...

Sue and Johnny are brother and sister, so I would assume they'd physically appear that way. They can be black, hispanic, asian, whatever, but they should appear to be siblings. I suppose Jessica Alba and Chris Evans didn't look much like siblings either though.
Sue and Johnny are brother and sister, so I would assume they'd physically appear that way. They can be black, hispanic, asian, whatever, but they should appear to be siblings. I suppose Jessica Alba and Chris Evans didn't look much like siblings either though.
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3:25PM on 10/19/2013
So, I'm out.
So, I'm out.
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3:31PM on 10/19/2013
This guy is talented, give him a chance. They could easily make Sue and Johnny adoped siblings with no harm to the narrative. Terry Crews would be awesome as Ben Grimm, but I think he'd be a better Luke Cage.
This guy is talented, give him a chance. They could easily make Sue and Johnny adoped siblings with no harm to the narrative. Terry Crews would be awesome as Ben Grimm, but I think he'd be a better Luke Cage.
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6:59PM on 10/19/2013
Ok.....Johnny Storm it is, and Terry Crews as Ben Grimm, no problem. Why stop there? Zoe Saldana as Sue Storm and let's give Will Smith Reed Richards....why not? Hell let's just call it The Blacktastic Four.
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Ok.....Johnny Storm it is, and Terry Crews as Ben Grimm, no problem. Why stop there? Zoe Saldana as Sue Storm and let's give Will Smith Reed Richards....why not? Hell let's just call it The Blacktastic Four.
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4:44PM on 10/20/2013
Thank you...
Just, thank you... !!
Thank you...
Just, thank you... !!
8:12PM on 10/19/2013
I think at the end of the day, Fantastic Four 'purists' will not like this news. But judging that the previous 2 FF films were not that great, the film studio has to be behind the project that probably will phase into the recent Marvel Universe that is being created s they wouldn't make a risky decision like this without any confidence behind the actor or the script, especially at this point in time.
I think at the end of the day, Fantastic Four 'purists' will not like this news. But judging that the previous 2 FF films were not that great, the film studio has to be behind the project that probably will phase into the recent Marvel Universe that is being created s they wouldn't make a risky decision like this without any confidence behind the actor or the script, especially at this point in time.
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10:42PM on 10/19/2013
I'm a big comic fan, and if they made BLADE a white dude with blonde hair, I would be furious because that wouldn't be BLADE, so when I hear JOHNNY STORM is black it upsets me because simply, it's not JOHNNY STORM
I'm a big comic fan, and if they made BLADE a white dude with blonde hair, I would be furious because that wouldn't be BLADE, so when I hear JOHNNY STORM is black it upsets me because simply, it's not JOHNNY STORM
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2:47AM on 10/20/2013

grrrrrrrrr........

boooooooooooo!!! the storms are not black!!! now theyre gonna have to have susan (aka invisible woman), as a black woman too!?!??? this is so retarded.... fox has messed up marvel enough.... i thought with the new direction theyve taken the x-men movies, that they've learned their lesson from their past mistakes and are now on the right path for their Marvel properties, but if they go through with this, i guess not.... :'(

...i mean, jordan was pretty awesome in Chronicle, but changing who
boooooooooooo!!! the storms are not black!!! now theyre gonna have to have susan (aka invisible woman), as a black woman too!?!??? this is so retarded.... fox has messed up marvel enough.... i thought with the new direction theyve taken the x-men movies, that they've learned their lesson from their past mistakes and are now on the right path for their Marvel properties, but if they go through with this, i guess not.... :'(

...i mean, jordan was pretty awesome in Chronicle, but changing who the Fantastic Four is, racially, just doesnt work out right. some characters you can do that with, like Nick Fury... but NOT the Human Torch!!! im sorry, but it just does not work!
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3:03AM on 10/20/2013
and for those that say its racsist to have this opinion, then you are retarded fucking lib-tards that are obsessed with labelling every sentient form of life in the universe racsist... grow the fuck up! not every white person is a nazi, and praising the ground that african americans walk on, and babying them acting like every thing ever said that isnt positive about a black person or anything even remotely related to them, such as a casting role for a film, is not only not helping them at all,
and for those that say its racsist to have this opinion, then you are retarded fucking lib-tards that are obsessed with labelling every sentient form of life in the universe racsist... grow the fuck up! not every white person is a nazi, and praising the ground that african americans walk on, and babying them acting like every thing ever said that isnt positive about a black person or anything even remotely related to them, such as a casting role for a film, is not only not helping them at all, but hurts them all in the long run, as if they cant decipher whats racsist or not themselves, and makes you all fucking morons... so quit saying that shit here, cause it has nothing to do with being "racsist", you liberal fascists....!!!!!
8:39AM on 10/20/2013

Enough!

If they want to make Johnny black then make Sue black too. I would scream if Sue were white when her brother is black. They want to be hip so they make Johnny black but they won't make Sue black? What are they going to do? Say that johnny is adopted rather than hire a black actress? That's a contrived way of avoiding making Sue black.
If they want to make Johnny black then make Sue black too. I would scream if Sue were white when her brother is black. They want to be hip so they make Johnny black but they won't make Sue black? What are they going to do? Say that johnny is adopted rather than hire a black actress? That's a contrived way of avoiding making Sue black.
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10:00AM on 10/20/2013
Come on, it's the Fantastic Four, one of the lamest teams out there. Does anyone really care?
Come on, it's the Fantastic Four, one of the lamest teams out there. Does anyone really care?
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3:06PM on 10/20/2013

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I can see it now....The Fantastic Four. Brought to you by BET. - The_Soloist..... Im going to pretend shit like this never made it to the comments section. Ive never taken pride in calling anyone out in anger on comment boards. Truth be told Ive always thought it was a waste of time. I guess Ive broken my one rule. Soloist what you said was just straight offensive. Youre real class. Keep it up. (Sarcasm if its not noticeable.)
As for Jordan being the Torch, its 2013. This is a new
I can see it now....The Fantastic Four. Brought to you by BET. - The_Soloist..... Im going to pretend shit like this never made it to the comments section. Ive never taken pride in calling anyone out in anger on comment boards. Truth be told Ive always thought it was a waste of time. I guess Ive broken my one rule. Soloist what you said was just straight offensive. Youre real class. Keep it up. (Sarcasm if its not noticeable.)
As for Jordan being the Torch, its 2013. This is a new generation a more tolerable and open minded generation (regardless to what I read on this board, I still believe that), so why not? Race has never been an issue for me, white or black, as long as it isn't relevant to the character itself (See: Black Panther, Captain America. Their race matters). Race is not relevant to the FF characters so if Fox wants to try something different, I say have at it. What's the point of remaking a movie if you aren't trying new directions?
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7:55PM on 10/20/2013
Hey fanboys, you could either wait and see when a script or some footage is out there to decide if it works or just stick with your comic books where Johnny Storm will always be white. Its not that serious.
Hey fanboys, you could either wait and see when a script or some footage is out there to decide if it works or just stick with your comic books where Johnny Storm will always be white. Its not that serious.
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