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Rumor: WB looking at African American actors for Lex Luthor, plus plot details for Justice League

Dec. 6, 2013by:

Now that Gal Gadot has been cast as Wonder Woman in BATMAN VS SUPERMAN, we can turn our attention back to another character who has been rumored to appear in Zack Snyder's film: Lex Luthor. Think McFly Think has heard from a source that Warner Bros. has been testing for Lex Luthor, and they might be looking at African American actors for the role.

The site has learned that Denzel Washington was at the top of WB's wish list, but "nothing ever materialized." Idris Elba was also apparently on the studio's list, however it's very unlikely he will be able to play Luthor because of his commitments to Marvel. The site says Arrow's David Ramsey has been approached for the part, although that could make things slightly confusing for fans if the theories that the show will be tied into DC's cinematic universe are true.

But Warner Bros. isn't only interested in African American actors for the part. According to the site, "this does not mean Luthor will definitely be played by an African American."

BATMAN VS SUPERMAN might as well be called JUSTICE LEAGUE at this point, but the site also has some plot details for that planned film. They say the plan is to make the team a "United Nations" of superheroes. They've heard Superman will represent the world as a whole, Ben Affleck's Batman will represent 'Merica, and the role of Flash might go to a Latin or Hispanic actor.

I could definitely see an African American actor playing Lex Luthor, but I'm a little less sold on having the team be a superhero version of the UN. It could work though, and having the team be a superhero version of the UN is different enough that WB wouldn't just be copying Marvel with how they are building their own cinematic universe. It'll be interesting to see if either of these rumors turn out to be true.

Extra Tidbit: Idris Elba would have owned as Lex Luthor. Damn.

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5:01PM on 12/08/2013
Why don't they take Marlon Brando's advise on Jor-El and use it for Lex....."just make him damn toaster".
Why don't they take Marlon Brando's advise on Jor-El and use it for Lex....."just make him damn toaster".
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11:27AM on 12/08/2013

Way to go WB

Head FAAAAAAAAAR up ass. I was in favor of Affleck, and a Black Luthor would depend on the actor (still think MCD was a great choice for Kingpin, one of the few things that made sense and worked in that movie) but making the flash Hispanic to give the movie a UN feel? Seriously, wtf are you guys doing?
Head FAAAAAAAAAR up ass. I was in favor of Affleck, and a Black Luthor would depend on the actor (still think MCD was a great choice for Kingpin, one of the few things that made sense and worked in that movie) but making the flash Hispanic to give the movie a UN feel? Seriously, wtf are you guys doing?
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6:41AM on 12/08/2013
my neighbor's step-aunt makes $82/hour on the computer. She has been fired from work for ten months but last month her payment was $18795 just working on the computer for a few hours. view website... www.Buzz19.com
my neighbor's step-aunt makes $82/hour on the computer. She has been fired from work for ten months but last month her payment was $18795 just working on the computer for a few hours. view website... www.Buzz19.com
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10:55AM on 12/08/2013
this site is about the movies. go post your ad somewhere appropriate.
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5:57AM on 12/08/2013
Can someone give me one personality trait that makes Lex Luthor inherently white?
Can someone give me one personality trait that makes Lex Luthor inherently white?
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11:41AM on 12/08/2013
Lex Luthor can't jump.
Lex Luthor can't jump.
11:04PM on 12/07/2013

TOM CRUISE!

one of the comments mentioned him.
i'm in if he goes into les grossman mode.
"I'm talking about a scorched earth, motherfucker! I will massacre you! I WILL FUCK YOU UP!"
one of the comments mentioned him.
i'm in if he goes into les grossman mode.
"I'm talking about a scorched earth, motherfucker! I will massacre you! I WILL FUCK YOU UP!"
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2:11PM on 12/07/2013

either way, it's racist

I have absolutely zero problem with them changing the race of a comic character for a live action adaptation if the reason is that the actor really was the person best suited for the role. If out of all the actors you auditioned, a black or hispanic actor had the best reading for the part of Lex Luthor or whoever, fine. But if the reason you're casting an actor of a different ethnicity than the character is to "make a statement" or for "diversity" or some other BS political reason, than that's
I have absolutely zero problem with them changing the race of a comic character for a live action adaptation if the reason is that the actor really was the person best suited for the role. If out of all the actors you auditioned, a black or hispanic actor had the best reading for the part of Lex Luthor or whoever, fine. But if the reason you're casting an actor of a different ethnicity than the character is to "make a statement" or for "diversity" or some other BS political reason, than that's just as racist as NOT casting an actor of a particular ethnicity because the character is "supposed to be white". Either way, you're making the decision based on the actor's race. And that's not a generally good idea.
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11:56AM on 12/07/2013

Billy Zane.

Yeah, Billy Zane.
Yeah, Billy Zane.
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11:46AM on 12/08/2013
He's a cool dude.
He's a cool dude.
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11:07AM on 12/07/2013
I want to see a white Flash. In no way, shape or form did I wait all this time to see Flash hit the big screen and not be blonde. For what reason does the first superhero of The Silver Age have to be changed to hispanic. This is not a racist thing by any means, but did Marvel make Captain America latino or african american. This is absurd. Lex I am a little more open minded to, because I can see Denzel or Idris Elba killing it, but truthfully I rather see him remain white as well. I wouldn't
I want to see a white Flash. In no way, shape or form did I wait all this time to see Flash hit the big screen and not be blonde. For what reason does the first superhero of The Silver Age have to be changed to hispanic. This is not a racist thing by any means, but did Marvel make Captain America latino or african american. This is absurd. Lex I am a little more open minded to, because I can see Denzel or Idris Elba killing it, but truthfully I rather see him remain white as well. I wouldn't want them to change any of the great black characters white either. It just seems pointless and it upsets millions of fans that have followed these characters through the decades.
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5:56AM on 12/07/2013

African American?

Don't understand how Idris Elba can be an "African American" when he's from England.

Plus, would it be racist for a white guy to play Shaft?
Don't understand how Idris Elba can be an "African American" when he's from England.

Plus, would it be racist for a white guy to play Shaft?
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5:30AM on 12/08/2013
According to many on here, THAT would be racist, nonsense and blasphemy. But turning a white character black? That's perfectly fine.
According to many on here, THAT would be racist, nonsense and blasphemy. But turning a white character black? That's perfectly fine.
5:51AM on 12/08/2013
Shaft comes from a black culture and his personality is shaped from black history. Theres nothing about Lex Luthor that says white other than the color he is drawn in.
Shaft comes from a black culture and his personality is shaped from black history. Theres nothing about Lex Luthor that says white other than the color he is drawn in.
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3:37AM on 12/07/2013
A role tailormade for Eddy Murphy. He could play Lex Luthor and the whole (farting) Injustice League alltogether.
A role tailormade for Eddy Murphy. He could play Lex Luthor and the whole (farting) Injustice League alltogether.
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8:31PM on 12/06/2013
You know... Kyle Rayner (Green Lantern) is supposed to be half Hispanic. Well, pre-New 52 at least.
As for diversity, why not have Batman to lead The Outsiders? They are a really diverse team of characters that won't feel out of place in a Man of Steel DC universe.
You know... Kyle Rayner (Green Lantern) is supposed to be half Hispanic. Well, pre-New 52 at least.
As for diversity, why not have Batman to lead The Outsiders? They are a really diverse team of characters that won't feel out of place in a Man of Steel DC universe.
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7:54PM on 12/06/2013
If the person is right for the role, it doesn't matter what race they are. Casting someone because you "need a black dude" is incredibly stupid.

Elba WOULD have owned as Lex though.
If the person is right for the role, it doesn't matter what race they are. Casting someone because you "need a black dude" is incredibly stupid.

Elba WOULD have owned as Lex though.
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7:18PM on 12/06/2013
I'm hip to this news whether the role goes to a Black man or not (my choice would be Dennis Haysbert but that 's just my opinion).

What I do care is that this movie is seriously becoming less of a Man of Steel sequel and more of a Justice League flick in disguise. It's like Snyder and WB feel they'll never get a chance to make another DC film in the future.

Cameos are fine but I feel they might be overdoing it. This is just my first impression.

Also, Gal Gadot? Really? That woman
I'm hip to this news whether the role goes to a Black man or not (my choice would be Dennis Haysbert but that 's just my opinion).

What I do care is that this movie is seriously becoming less of a Man of Steel sequel and more of a Justice League flick in disguise. It's like Snyder and WB feel they'll never get a chance to make another DC film in the future.

Cameos are fine but I feel they might be overdoing it. This is just my first impression.

Also, Gal Gadot? Really? That woman playing Wonder Woman? What a disgrace. She better have given them the best audition ever rather than the quickest blowjob to ever warrant a major studio role.
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6:34PM on 12/06/2013

Tyler Mother F*cking Perry

Tyler Perry for Lex Luthor, if anybody agrees go to the fansite. www.MadeaforLex.com
Tyler Perry for Lex Luthor, if anybody agrees go to the fansite. www.MadeaforLex.com
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6:39PM on 12/06/2013
Lex Luthor fights superman in a Madea outfit. Oh lord have mercy
Lex Luthor fights superman in a Madea outfit. Oh lord have mercy
5:48PM on 12/06/2013
Just call up Vin Diesal and see if his commitments to Marvel can be worked around. It's likely they couldn't be, but it would be worth a try.
Just call up Vin Diesal and see if his commitments to Marvel can be worked around. It's likely they couldn't be, but it would be worth a try.
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5:39PM on 12/06/2013
This UN thing sounds more like Captain Planet and the Planeteers not Jiustice League(of America). This whole article sounds like bullshit!
This UN thing sounds more like Captain Planet and the Planeteers not Jiustice League(of America). This whole article sounds like bullshit!
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5:39PM on 12/06/2013

???

To Preston_79: My Mexican, Asian and my Ukrainian neighbors have all invited me to their homes or parties for drinks and food. The majority of the families on my street are African-American though. Not one of them has invited me over. The three I've invited have turned me down. What do you think, Preston_79, should I be offended?
To Preston_79: My Mexican, Asian and my Ukrainian neighbors have all invited me to their homes or parties for drinks and food. The majority of the families on my street are African-American though. Not one of them has invited me over. The three I've invited have turned me down. What do you think, Preston_79, should I be offended?
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12:00AM on 12/07/2013
I'm not sure I get your point, or what you're maybe implying. Please elaborate though, as I'm sure there are many individuals in here that probably share your opinion.
I'm not sure I get your point, or what you're maybe implying. Please elaborate though, as I'm sure there are many individuals in here that probably share your opinion.
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4:59PM on 12/06/2013
Bald? Black?

Ladies and gentlemen, your new Lex Luthor: Keegan-Michael Key!

(Jordan Peele can be Otis.)
Bald? Black?

Ladies and gentlemen, your new Lex Luthor: Keegan-Michael Key!

(Jordan Peele can be Otis.)
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4:12PM on 12/06/2013
I don't care if they change his race, but if they're looking for someone African American just for the sake of having an African American Luthor then that's just stupid. Leave it open for whoever. I actually love the idea of Denzel Washington; that would have been awesome. If they rumors about Ramsay are true then I'm really concerned that WB/DC truly have no idea what they're doing. Is Arrow part of the DC Universe? If they cast one of the leads of that show as Luthor then obviously not, but
I don't care if they change his race, but if they're looking for someone African American just for the sake of having an African American Luthor then that's just stupid. Leave it open for whoever. I actually love the idea of Denzel Washington; that would have been awesome. If they rumors about Ramsay are true then I'm really concerned that WB/DC truly have no idea what they're doing. Is Arrow part of the DC Universe? If they cast one of the leads of that show as Luthor then obviously not, but then why allow them to use Flash and spin him off to his own show in Arrow's world when they will then have to just cast a new Flash and confuse people even more?

Also the Justice League UN thing sounds bad.
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4:08PM on 12/06/2013
And the post credits scene can have them all eating at mcdonalds and posing for an advertisement. While Denzel would be incredible, I do think Lex being white makes more since for his character background and how he has gotten to where he is today. If anything, Superman's history would not be that much different and might be a little more interesting if he was black or just dark skinned. That wouldn't alter the character's motivation and may even help explain his feeling like an outsider in
And the post credits scene can have them all eating at mcdonalds and posing for an advertisement. While Denzel would be incredible, I do think Lex being white makes more since for his character background and how he has gotten to where he is today. If anything, Superman's history would not be that much different and might be a little more interesting if he was black or just dark skinned. That wouldn't alter the character's motivation and may even help explain his feeling like an outsider in some situations like growing up. But, the studio would NEVER make Superman black bc ppl would be angry AND they'd be to afraid to make a huge summer blockbuster of the most popular American character in the USA as black. If so, it'd be a waaaaay different movie with a much lower budget bc they would just be thinking ab target demographics. So again, as someone explained down low, being white makes more since for the character of Lex.

Next, having it be a UN type team is just awful. An incredibly worse idea than Luthor being black. I can see how they may not want to look like they are copying the avengers, and even the X-Men, but the Justice League has probably the two most popular American heroes on it period. I think it will also limit their stories to mainly aliens, not other criminals. And it will of course create stupid conflict about I'll take care of American criminals the way I want. I understand some gender and races are changed sometimes to freshen things up - they do it in the comics a lot, but the change has to make sense for the character (like cap America can't be black in this timeline, bc a black soldier wouldn't have been the face of propaganda for the war at that time). The JL is like the Avengers. I wonder which one came first (too lazy to look it up). Batman is a pretty similar character to Iron Man, but they both did their stories uniquely. Most super hero movies are basically the same formula. JL has prolly been around for what...80 years? If you can come up with a better idea for the team with that long of a history and tons of different writers, than by all means do it. But DO NOT make the change bc it's similar to the Avengers. I thought Geoff Johns was the WB creative guy??? What happened there?
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3:48PM on 12/06/2013

Is it racist?

My favorite segment on Tosh.0...the question is what is racist? Is it racist to change the skin color of a character to fit pseudo PC business ideas or is it racist to care that the skin color is changed for no good reason? Personally, I think it's absolutely racist that the studio's do this crap and no one calls them out for the obvious racism they are conducting. The reality is that Lex Luthor is white. Period. As is the Flash. If you have a good reason to change this, I'm all ears (there
My favorite segment on Tosh.0...the question is what is racist? Is it racist to change the skin color of a character to fit pseudo PC business ideas or is it racist to care that the skin color is changed for no good reason? Personally, I think it's absolutely racist that the studio's do this crap and no one calls them out for the obvious racism they are conducting. The reality is that Lex Luthor is white. Period. As is the Flash. If you have a good reason to change this, I'm all ears (there really isn't any), but when it's done as an OBVIOUS attempt to encourage more minorities to see movies like this it becomes clearly racist. Race isn't an issue until you go out of your way to make it an issue like the WB is here.

Also, I'm confused. Isn't Arrow and the upcoming Flash television show supposed to connect with the movies they're building? So hasn't the Flash already been cast? How could they use Ramsey as Luthor when he's already on Arrow? This is just more WB BS. They don't know what they're doing and they can't make up their minds to save their lives.
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9:23PM on 12/06/2013
Newsflash: Lex Luthor is a fictional character. And no one's skin color is being changed because Luthor has not been established in this cannon. It's funny how you demand that they give a good reason for changing his skin color, yet you can't give a good reason against. None of Luthor's character traits are related to his skin color, so it literally does not matter.
Newsflash: Lex Luthor is a fictional character. And no one's skin color is being changed because Luthor has not been established in this cannon. It's funny how you demand that they give a good reason for changing his skin color, yet you can't give a good reason against. None of Luthor's character traits are related to his skin color, so it literally does not matter.
3:45PM on 12/06/2013

What exactly is the issue now?

First, fans are upset when rumors were floating around that the Human Torch would be black but because he's never been black in the comic-book continuity it's now a problem (who gives a crap?). Then, there was Foxx being cast as Electro and the same as Human Torch, people claim that they're not racist, they just don't like when their favorite characters are made to fit with contemporary times of a diverse cast aka the real world. Now people are having issues with Lex Luthor being rumored to be
First, fans are upset when rumors were floating around that the Human Torch would be black but because he's never been black in the comic-book continuity it's now a problem (who gives a crap?). Then, there was Foxx being cast as Electro and the same as Human Torch, people claim that they're not racist, they just don't like when their favorite characters are made to fit with contemporary times of a diverse cast aka the real world. Now people are having issues with Lex Luthor being rumored to be played by a black guy although he was clearly black before in the animated series, oh the horror!
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3:34PM on 12/06/2013

wait, latino Flash?!

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1:10AM on 12/07/2013
My thoughts exactly
My thoughts exactly
3:29PM on 12/06/2013
This new Flash can have wings on his sombrero. HAHAHAHA OH I'm going to hell for that one.
This new Flash can have wings on his sombrero. HAHAHAHA OH I'm going to hell for that one.
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3:05PM on 12/06/2013
Please, to the ones trying to call us out as racists or intolerants, just stop. I mean, what are you trying to do? Are you trying to feel better about yourselves? Or are you trying to put yourselves above us who don't share your opinion, like you are "better" than us for being oh so tolerant of "change"!?
Is change good? Yes. But is changing the ethnicity of characters something that should be done? MY opinion is no. There are plenty of other ethnic comic book characters to be featured in
Please, to the ones trying to call us out as racists or intolerants, just stop. I mean, what are you trying to do? Are you trying to feel better about yourselves? Or are you trying to put yourselves above us who don't share your opinion, like you are "better" than us for being oh so tolerant of "change"!?
Is change good? Yes. But is changing the ethnicity of characters something that should be done? MY opinion is no. There are plenty of other ethnic comic book characters to be featured in these movies, so the studios should just use those. I, again in MY opinion, wouldn't want the likes of Cyborg, Blade, Luke Cage, Rhodey, Black Manta, Black Panther, Falcon, John Stewart or Spawn to be played by a white actor. Or an Asian actor. Or an actor from Mars.
Respect the origins of these characters. It's simple. And if the people who are making those movies were just, maybe, a little less lazy, then maybe instead of switching a character's color for the sake of trying to sell a couple more movie tickets, they could create new original characters of any ethnicity and make them interesting.
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3:09PM on 12/06/2013
Well said. Its willed ignorance though. You can explain it to them, but you cant understand it for them.
Well said. Its willed ignorance though. You can explain it to them, but you cant understand it for them.
4:36PM on 12/06/2013
here here, dont forget Martain Manhunter, his human form was often a black cop
here here, dont forget Martain Manhunter, his human form was often a black cop
3:04PM on 12/06/2013

Fine they get Lex Luthor, but........

I want Blade to be a white guy next time, and Martian Man Hunter.
I want Blade to be a white guy next time, and Martian Man Hunter.
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3:04PM on 12/06/2013

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If you want to erase the fact that Lex hales from a "predominantly" white background, spoiled little rich white prep school kid, born with a silver spoon in his mouth, throws money at any and all problems, who always gets his way and throws tantrums when he doesn't. Tantrums that always end up costing people their lives. He is the quintessential "MAN". He is the "rich white guy sitting above everyone else, pulling all the strings, and keeping everyone else down. Does this sound like a black
If you want to erase the fact that Lex hales from a "predominantly" white background, spoiled little rich white prep school kid, born with a silver spoon in his mouth, throws money at any and all problems, who always gets his way and throws tantrums when he doesn't. Tantrums that always end up costing people their lives. He is the quintessential "MAN". He is the "rich white guy sitting above everyone else, pulling all the strings, and keeping everyone else down. Does this sound like a black guy to you? I'm very surprised that the black community isn't MORE against this, taking iconic white guy villains and casting black actors to play them. First King Pin (which Duncan owned), and now Lex.

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6:42PM on 12/06/2013
Duncan owned as Kingpin. I agree.
Duncan owned as Kingpin. I agree.
2:58PM on 12/06/2013

I am so sick of this politically correct shit!

Lets make Perry White Black, Lets make Jimmy Olsen a Woman. Lets just make Wonder Woman a Transsexual and get it over with. And lets make the sleepiest race on the planet the flash, so many Speedy Gonzlez jokes my brain might explode. The only person that should play Lex Luthor is Josh Blacker, look him up.
Lets make Perry White Black, Lets make Jimmy Olsen a Woman. Lets just make Wonder Woman a Transsexual and get it over with. And lets make the sleepiest race on the planet the flash, so many Speedy Gonzlez jokes my brain might explode. The only person that should play Lex Luthor is Josh Blacker, look him up.
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3:27PM on 12/06/2013
HAHAHA this new Flash could have wings on his sombrero! Oh I'm so terrible. I'm going to hell for that one.
HAHAHA this new Flash could have wings on his sombrero! Oh I'm so terrible. I'm going to hell for that one.
10:20AM on 12/07/2013
Ughhh... politically correct would be making Lex white.
Ughhh... politically correct would be making Lex white.
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2:55PM on 12/06/2013

Every other bit of casting info we've heard about Lex so far has proven to be pure rumor

So I'm guessing that these are, too.
So I'm guessing that these are, too.
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1:56PM on 12/06/2013
I don't care if Lex is played by an elderly Chinese woman as long as she's a good actor and the story is done well. This UN idea sounds like garbage though. I liked MoS and Affleck as Batman is AOK in my book, but please dear god don't shoehorn in other characters just to populate the cinematic world. Do it right WB. Do it right.

If you utilize my elderly Chinese female Lex Luthor idea, I want a producer credit.
I don't care if Lex is played by an elderly Chinese woman as long as she's a good actor and the story is done well. This UN idea sounds like garbage though. I liked MoS and Affleck as Batman is AOK in my book, but please dear god don't shoehorn in other characters just to populate the cinematic world. Do it right WB. Do it right.

If you utilize my elderly Chinese female Lex Luthor idea, I want a producer credit.
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1:32PM on 12/06/2013

No.

Just plain stupid. Worked great in Daredevil, right? How about we just turn this into the live action Captain Planet movie?
Just plain stupid. Worked great in Daredevil, right? How about we just turn this into the live action Captain Planet movie?
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1:57PM on 12/06/2013
That's right. Daredevil sucked because Kingpin was black. Movie was a gem otherwise.
That's right. Daredevil sucked because Kingpin was black. Movie was a gem otherwise.
1:31PM on 12/06/2013
I just wanna say I think Lance Reddick would make for a great Lex Luthor.
I just wanna say I think Lance Reddick would make for a great Lex Luthor.
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1:27PM on 12/06/2013
"Honey, they're looking to cast an African American as Lex Luthor".
Preston_79- "That's great hun".
"Honey they're also talking to Mark Wahlberg for Luke Cage".
Preston_79- "OOOOHHHHHH HELLS NO".
"Honey, they're looking to cast an African American as Lex Luthor".
Preston_79- "That's great hun".
"Honey they're also talking to Mark Wahlberg for Luke Cage".
Preston_79- "OOOOHHHHHH HELLS NO".
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2:16PM on 12/06/2013
If you want to erase the fact that Cage is from the predominantly black Harlem, go right ahead. With most these characters the race just isn't that important.
If you want to erase the fact that Cage is from the predominantly black Harlem, go right ahead. With most these characters the race just isn't that important.
3:00PM on 12/06/2013
To Preston_79- If you want to erase the fact that Lex hales from a "predominantly" white background, spoiled little rich white prep school kid, born with a silver spoon in his mouth, throws money at any and all problems, who always gets his way and throws tantrums when he doesn't. Tantrums that always end up costing people their lives. He is the quintessential "MAN". He is the "rich white guy sitting above everyone else, pulling all the strings, and keeping everyone else down. Does this sound
To Preston_79- If you want to erase the fact that Lex hales from a "predominantly" white background, spoiled little rich white prep school kid, born with a silver spoon in his mouth, throws money at any and all problems, who always gets his way and throws tantrums when he doesn't. Tantrums that always end up costing people their lives. He is the quintessential "MAN". He is the "rich white guy sitting above everyone else, pulling all the strings, and keeping everyone else down. Does this sound like a black guy to you? I'm very surprised that the black community isn't MORE against this, taking iconic white guy villains and casting black actors to play them. First King Pin (which Duncan owned), and now Lex.
1:24PM on 12/06/2013
If they want to make Lex Luthor african-america, I"m fine with that. As long as they get serious talent in the role and don't make the race change for the sake of making a race change.
The idea of making the Justice League some kind of UN team is stupid. Now that's changing races for the sake of changing races. I mean, why is it necessary to make Flash latino, what does that change add to the character. Absolutely nothing. Just a stupid move, but that's to be expected from WB at this
If they want to make Lex Luthor african-america, I"m fine with that. As long as they get serious talent in the role and don't make the race change for the sake of making a race change.
The idea of making the Justice League some kind of UN team is stupid. Now that's changing races for the sake of changing races. I mean, why is it necessary to make Flash latino, what does that change add to the character. Absolutely nothing. Just a stupid move, but that's to be expected from WB at this point.
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1:28PM on 12/06/2013
I think the only value in changing the roles is diversification, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. The US is an increasingly diverse place, and as ethnic groups become more evenly dispersed, the idea of a "minority" will be outmoded. Consequently, all white superhero teams will seem more fictitious than they already are.

Anyway, I'm not preaching, advocating or condemning. I think at best, they're hoping to make the audience watching the movie feel more included. At worst...they
I think the only value in changing the roles is diversification, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. The US is an increasingly diverse place, and as ethnic groups become more evenly dispersed, the idea of a "minority" will be outmoded. Consequently, all white superhero teams will seem more fictitious than they already are.

Anyway, I'm not preaching, advocating or condemning. I think at best, they're hoping to make the audience watching the movie feel more included. At worst...they want all the peoples money.
1:31PM on 12/06/2013
I agree. I don't care about what race the actor is if they are the best fit for the part. As for your comment about the Flash and making him Hispanic, the only thing I see it adding to the character is the ability for people to make stereotypic and racist Speedy Gonzales jokes.
I agree. I don't care about what race the actor is if they are the best fit for the part. As for your comment about the Flash and making him Hispanic, the only thing I see it adding to the character is the ability for people to make stereotypic and racist Speedy Gonzales jokes.
1:19PM on 12/06/2013

Whatever.

I don't see any harm in diversifying a really white superhero cast. It'll seem like pandering, but it'll help break up the caucasian normativity that's all too common in the superhero world. Especially DC, which has a very old character set.
However, it would've been more progressive to make the main hero non-white, instead of the villain. Just saying.
I don't see any harm in diversifying a really white superhero cast. It'll seem like pandering, but it'll help break up the caucasian normativity that's all too common in the superhero world. Especially DC, which has a very old character set.
However, it would've been more progressive to make the main hero non-white, instead of the villain. Just saying.
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1:16PM on 12/06/2013
"Honey, we have new neighbors and they're black."

You- "I'm not racist or anything, but this neighborhood has always been white and I want it to stay that way."
"Honey, we have new neighbors and they're black."

You- "I'm not racist or anything, but this neighborhood has always been white and I want it to stay that way."
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5:37PM on 12/06/2013
My Mexican, Asian and my Ukrainian neighbors have all invited my to their homes or parties for drinks and food. The majority of the families on my street are African-American though. Not one of them has invited me over. The three I've invited have turned me down. What do you think, Preston_79, should I be offended?
My Mexican, Asian and my Ukrainian neighbors have all invited my to their homes or parties for drinks and food. The majority of the families on my street are African-American though. Not one of them has invited me over. The three I've invited have turned me down. What do you think, Preston_79, should I be offended?
5:55AM on 12/08/2013
Swindle1977 wtf does that have to do with anything? So Lex Luthor cant be black because black people dont want to eat dinner with you?
Swindle1977 wtf does that have to do with anything? So Lex Luthor cant be black because black people dont want to eat dinner with you?
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1:07PM on 12/06/2013
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1:03PM on 12/06/2013

Lawrence Fishburne

Would have made a great Lex. Ironically, he's already cast in the other historically white character they decided to make black. Denzel won't happen but that'd be pretty awesome too.
Would have made a great Lex. Ironically, he's already cast in the other historically white character they decided to make black. Denzel won't happen but that'd be pretty awesome too.
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12:57PM on 12/06/2013

Jon Hamm

Get Jon Hamm for Luthor! He has already screen-tested/played the part for you all.
Get Jon Hamm for Luthor! He has already screen-tested/played the part for you all.
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12:56PM on 12/06/2013

havent they strayed from the material enough already???

They made Perry White a black guy..cool. They made Jimmy Olsen a woman..cool. Now they're looking to change Lex as well, when will it end? Hollywood to rest of world: "We're makin a Turtles movie only they'll be alien-fish-monkeys instead of turtles, and April O'Niel will be a Pilipino sex slave to add diversity, and Shredder will be a transforming robot ninja mutant from future space, but its ok cause we're still callin it Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles".
They made Perry White a black guy..cool. They made Jimmy Olsen a woman..cool. Now they're looking to change Lex as well, when will it end? Hollywood to rest of world: "We're makin a Turtles movie only they'll be alien-fish-monkeys instead of turtles, and April O'Niel will be a Pilipino sex slave to add diversity, and Shredder will be a transforming robot ninja mutant from future space, but its ok cause we're still callin it Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles".
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1:04PM on 12/06/2013
It's like making a character wear blue jeans instead of slacks. It hardly alters the source material and is completely inconsequential to the heart of the mythology.
It's like making a character wear blue jeans instead of slacks. It hardly alters the source material and is completely inconsequential to the heart of the mythology.
3:47PM on 12/06/2013
Sorry Preston, it reeks of a cheap publicity stunt. Why not make Superman a woman? How about Batman as a gay midget? Let's make sure everyone is represented so we can feel better about ourselves?

What a joke.....
Sorry Preston, it reeks of a cheap publicity stunt. Why not make Superman a woman? How about Batman as a gay midget? Let's make sure everyone is represented so we can feel better about ourselves?

What a joke.....
4:34PM on 12/06/2013
dead on, people who have been reading these characters for years and years (75 for superman) want to see THOSE characters, not what the studio thinks is PC, leave that everybody gets a trophy so they dont feel bad crap in elementry school
dead on, people who have been reading these characters for years and years (75 for superman) want to see THOSE characters, not what the studio thinks is PC, leave that everybody gets a trophy so they dont feel bad crap in elementry school
12:49PM on 12/06/2013
His name is Michael k williams
His name is Michael k williams
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12:44PM on 12/06/2013
His name is Michael k williams
His name is Michael k williams
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12:43PM on 12/06/2013

Chalky white

I think Chalky white would be an excellent lex Luthor. Yeah he's black but the man can act. Watch the wire or boardwalk if you don't believe me.
I think Chalky white would be an excellent lex Luthor. Yeah he's black but the man can act. Watch the wire or boardwalk if you don't believe me.
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12:39PM on 12/06/2013
cool, a Lex Luther that can play the bass guitar
cool, a Lex Luther that can play the bass guitar
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12:27PM on 12/06/2013

You know it's true

The people bitching about a character's race being changed. You're a dying breed and you'll be on the wrong side of history. Someday our kids will enjoy all these movies coming out regardless of anyone's race, and they'll have to listen to grandpa complain from his lazy boy.about how Lex should be white, Flash should be white, Human Torch should be white. You'll sound ridiculous. Scratch that. You sound that way right now. You won't watch the movie because of one character's skin color?
The people bitching about a character's race being changed. You're a dying breed and you'll be on the wrong side of history. Someday our kids will enjoy all these movies coming out regardless of anyone's race, and they'll have to listen to grandpa complain from his lazy boy.about how Lex should be white, Flash should be white, Human Torch should be white. You'll sound ridiculous. Scratch that. You sound that way right now. You won't watch the movie because of one character's skin color? Good. I don't like sitting next to douche bags in the theater anyway
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12:43PM on 12/06/2013
Amen, brother. Seriously, y'all sound like a bunch of motherfuckin' apologist Klansmen.
Amen, brother. Seriously, y'all sound like a bunch of motherfuckin' apologist Klansmen.
12:11PM on 12/06/2013
I don't care what ethnicity they are, JUST PICK A GOOD ACTOR.
I don't care what ethnicity they are, JUST PICK A GOOD ACTOR.
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12:17PM on 12/06/2013
We've had Kevin Spacey, Gene Hackman and Michael Rosenbaum play Lex Luthor. All awesome actors (but I didn't like Gene Hackman's portrayal). They just need to make the conflict between him and Superman more interesting, rather than it be about real estate again.
We've had Kevin Spacey, Gene Hackman and Michael Rosenbaum play Lex Luthor. All awesome actors (but I didn't like Gene Hackman's portrayal). They just need to make the conflict between him and Superman more interesting, rather than it be about real estate again.
12:09PM on 12/06/2013
I'm all for changing the race of a character if it means casting the best actor available for that role. With that said I think a Hispanic Flash might inspire a few too many Speedy Gonzales GIFS on tumblr.
I'm all for changing the race of a character if it means casting the best actor available for that role. With that said I think a Hispanic Flash might inspire a few too many Speedy Gonzales GIFS on tumblr.
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12:08PM on 12/06/2013
Have all the bald white actors said no?
Have all the bald white actors said no?
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12:13PM on 12/06/2013
Maybe.. Now it's time for them to kidnap Clancy Brown and shave his head for the role.
Maybe.. Now it's time for them to kidnap Clancy Brown and shave his head for the role.
2:26PM on 12/06/2013
Billy Zane's phone never rang.
Billy Zane's phone never rang.
2:26PM on 12/06/2013
Billy Zane's phone never rang.
Billy Zane's phone never rang.
5:19PM on 12/06/2013
Thankfully Billy Zane's phone never rings if we're being honest.
Thankfully Billy Zane's phone never rings if we're being honest.
11:46AM on 12/06/2013
A team superhero revision of the UN is fucking stupid. I mean for fuck sake, the UN is one of the most corrupt, wasteful, inefficient organizations in the world. Also, I was under the impression that Justice League tried to stay away from representing peoples or governments.
A team superhero revision of the UN is fucking stupid. I mean for fuck sake, the UN is one of the most corrupt, wasteful, inefficient organizations in the world. Also, I was under the impression that Justice League tried to stay away from representing peoples or governments.
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11:36AM on 12/06/2013

Nope

Is it really that hard for studios to give us the characters how they were created?? you watch racial diversity have john stewart as green lantern, yea id really believe a guy named wally west (or barry allen) is spanish...
Is it really that hard for studios to give us the characters how they were created?? you watch racial diversity have john stewart as green lantern, yea id really believe a guy named wally west (or barry allen) is spanish...
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11:32AM on 12/06/2013
They pay people to come up with shit like this?
They pay people to come up with shit like this?
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11:13AM on 12/06/2013
The United Nations concept sure worked wonders for G.I. Joe in Rise of Cobra, may as well copy it for Justice League.
The United Nations concept sure worked wonders for G.I. Joe in Rise of Cobra, may as well copy it for Justice League.
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10:58AM on 12/06/2013
No thanks!!!!!!!
No thanks!!!!!!!
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10:58AM on 12/06/2013
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10:54AM on 12/06/2013
Wow, what are the odds. When it was announced that they found their Wonder Woman, I joked that they were looking for a Chinese actor for the role, and I got a bunch of thumbs down, I was expecting them to actually change the race, but now I find it funny if this rumor turns out to be true
Wow, what are the odds. When it was announced that they found their Wonder Woman, I joked that they were looking for a Chinese actor for the role, and I got a bunch of thumbs down, I was expecting them to actually change the race, but now I find it funny if this rumor turns out to be true
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10:50AM on 12/06/2013
Anyway, it's a Zack Snyder movie. The actors will probably be drowning in yet another plotless CGI-orgy, I don't think it really matters what their ethnicity is.
Anyway, it's a Zack Snyder movie. The actors will probably be drowning in yet another plotless CGI-orgy, I don't think it really matters what their ethnicity is.
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10:45AM on 12/06/2013
I'm down with the whole UN thing. I hope they find a midget hermaphrodite asian to play Aquaman.
I'm down with the whole UN thing. I hope they find a midget hermaphrodite asian to play Aquaman.
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10:34AM on 12/06/2013
Lol if they got Luther to play Luthor
Lol if they got Luther to play Luthor
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10:43AM on 12/06/2013
Wow did you think of that all on your own!
Wow did you think of that all on your own!
12:15PM on 12/06/2013
I'm awesome aren't I?
I'm awesome aren't I?
10:20AM on 12/06/2013
How about Lance Reddick?
How about Lance Reddick?
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10:18AM on 12/06/2013

I just want the cartoon Luthor come to life:

That could be a black dude or a mixed race dude, just make sure it's an actor worthy of the role. I'm surprised they never approached Vin Diesel, except for his newfound connections with Marvel. Not saying he's my choice (not at all) just surprised he hasn't been (reportedly) approached. Another thing that could work is ....I've got nothing.
That could be a black dude or a mixed race dude, just make sure it's an actor worthy of the role. I'm surprised they never approached Vin Diesel, except for his newfound connections with Marvel. Not saying he's my choice (not at all) just surprised he hasn't been (reportedly) approached. Another thing that could work is ....I've got nothing.
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10:12AM on 12/06/2013
Blah, Blah, Blah... Black actor playing a white guy... blah, blah, blah...
Blah, Blah, Blah... Black actor playing a white guy... blah, blah, blah...
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10:07AM on 12/06/2013

People have a problem with this? Seriously?

We've seen a black Lex before, and it's called Superman the Animated Series. Minus Michael Rosenbaum's Smallville, TAS Lex was the best one by far. Seriously, you really have no leg to stand on as his ethnicity has changed before yet no one complained.
We've seen a black Lex before, and it's called Superman the Animated Series. Minus Michael Rosenbaum's Smallville, TAS Lex was the best one by far. Seriously, you really have no leg to stand on as his ethnicity has changed before yet no one complained.
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10:06AM on 12/06/2013
It's all a bunch of rumors and bullshit at this point, just like episode VII. I'll wait until decisions are made before I get excited or disappointed. If the above rumors happen to be true, it just reinforces the notion that they have no idea what they're doing.
It's all a bunch of rumors and bullshit at this point, just like episode VII. I'll wait until decisions are made before I get excited or disappointed. If the above rumors happen to be true, it just reinforces the notion that they have no idea what they're doing.
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9:38AM on 12/06/2013
This has been done plenty of times in comic films (Jamie Foxx in Amazing Spider-Man, Michael Clark Duncan in Daredevil, Laurence Fishburne in Man of Steel). Changing a characters race isn't an issue to me, it's all about casting the right actor. The fact that they're earmarking African-American actors for Lex and already deciding a new race for The Flash make me believe this is more of a dollars and cents issue, as studios love ethnically diverse casts to bring in a broader ethnic audience.
This has been done plenty of times in comic films (Jamie Foxx in Amazing Spider-Man, Michael Clark Duncan in Daredevil, Laurence Fishburne in Man of Steel). Changing a characters race isn't an issue to me, it's all about casting the right actor. The fact that they're earmarking African-American actors for Lex and already deciding a new race for The Flash make me believe this is more of a dollars and cents issue, as studios love ethnically diverse casts to bring in a broader ethnic audience. Washington and Elba, while great actors, are completely wrong for the part of Lex Luthor. The previously rumored Mark Strong is such a great choice because he can pull off the charming/menacing combination so well. It makes more sense to focus on getting the character right than catering to a specific ethnicity. And this is why I'm not a Hollywood bigshot.
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9:35AM on 12/06/2013
I remember watching an interview with the team behind the Justice League animated series. They put in a black Green Lantern to make the group look, well, a bit more diverse in the race stakes. Hawk Girl was voiced by a Hispanic person with an accent...to make her sound a little more foreign (given that the character was an alien). I have no problem with that. Whilst my only choice for WW was Jaimie Alexander I'm okay with the direction WB's are taking here - WW should also come across as
I remember watching an interview with the team behind the Justice League animated series. They put in a black Green Lantern to make the group look, well, a bit more diverse in the race stakes. Hawk Girl was voiced by a Hispanic person with an accent...to make her sound a little more foreign (given that the character was an alien). I have no problem with that. Whilst my only choice for WW was Jaimie Alexander I'm okay with the direction WB's are taking here - WW should also come across as "foreign", certainly without an American accent. Given the story above, you can see why they went with Gadot. As for Lex being black, they need someone like a Denzil to pull it off - Michael Clarke Duncan made for a wonderful Kingpin (alas in a poor movie) and Laurence Fishburne made a fine Perry White because they both have presence (that all said, I still want my Johnny Storm and James Bond to remain white - I dunno - may be it is just the closet racist in me).
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9:32AM on 12/06/2013
No, please don't have Diggle as Luthor! If it's true that someone playing a major supporting ally on Arrow is being considered for Luthor, there is confusion going on with the people making these decisions. On a related note, the inclusion of Wonder Woman in Batman vs. Superman doesn't strike me as a bad idea per se, but since Amazon is supposedly still in the works, this makes me feel there isn't proper communication between the TV and movie departments at DC/Warner.
No, please don't have Diggle as Luthor! If it's true that someone playing a major supporting ally on Arrow is being considered for Luthor, there is confusion going on with the people making these decisions. On a related note, the inclusion of Wonder Woman in Batman vs. Superman doesn't strike me as a bad idea per se, but since Amazon is supposedly still in the works, this makes me feel there isn't proper communication between the TV and movie departments at DC/Warner.
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9:32AM on 12/06/2013
I've gotten over the whole Michael B. Jordan playing Hunan Torch casting despite the character being White. But Lex Luthor is too much of an iconic character to change ethnicities and race on for such a big film like this. I am sure there are African American actors out there who could play Luthor just fine, but for such an iconic and vital character like this, I want to see a White actor play Lex Luthor.

And casting someone Latin or Hispanic for Flash??? Come on. The same reasons for
I've gotten over the whole Michael B. Jordan playing Hunan Torch casting despite the character being White. But Lex Luthor is too much of an iconic character to change ethnicities and race on for such a big film like this. I am sure there are African American actors out there who could play Luthor just fine, but for such an iconic and vital character like this, I want to see a White actor play Lex Luthor.

And casting someone Latin or Hispanic for Flash??? Come on. The same reasons for Luthor applies for this character too. Just cast Bradley Cooper, John Krasinski, Chris Pine, Charlie Hunnam, or Ryan Gosling and be done with it.

And I know it would never happen, but I would love to see DC cast Stephen Amell for Green Arrow. The guy is perfect on the show and despite the confusion, I would love to see them bring him on board for this.
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9:24AM on 12/06/2013

Enough...

...with Idris Elba being perfect for EVERY role. The guy is overrated.
...with Idris Elba being perfect for EVERY role. The guy is overrated.
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10:07AM on 12/06/2013
Thank you Scalvador! Finally someone said it.
Thank you Scalvador! Finally someone said it.
9:17AM on 12/06/2013
This does not seem very Zack Snyderish. He is being controlled. Just make Leonidas (Gerard Butler) Luther shave his head and the beard and make him Luther.
This does not seem very Zack Snyderish. He is being controlled. Just make Leonidas (Gerard Butler) Luther shave his head and the beard and make him Luther.
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9:14AM on 12/06/2013
The next Batman vs Superman article on this site will read "Zack Snyder takes a shit, and we have photos". There will be twenty articles in ten days about it, and all the articles will sing its praises.
The next Batman vs Superman article on this site will read "Zack Snyder takes a shit, and we have photos". There will be twenty articles in ten days about it, and all the articles will sing its praises.
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9:11AM on 12/06/2013

too bad it wont be idris elba

stringer bell VS superman?!?!
i mean, he worked the race swap with Heimdall.
stringer bell VS superman?!?!
i mean, he worked the race swap with Heimdall.
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8:56AM on 12/06/2013
Didn't they already do this in Daredevil? Where the main bald white villain was played by a black actor. You know, that other Batmanish movie where Ben Affleck played a Batmanish character and fucked it up horribly bad.
Didn't they already do this in Daredevil? Where the main bald white villain was played by a black actor. You know, that other Batmanish movie where Ben Affleck played a Batmanish character and fucked it up horribly bad.
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8:56AM on 12/06/2013

Ummm

Switching the ethnicities of certain characters? I'm absolutely on board, if it means they are casting the best actor/actress possible and not just stunt casting.

The whole UN thing could work I suppose, but this all seems convoluted for no reason. Typical WB though; diving in head first without even seeing where they are going to land.
Switching the ethnicities of certain characters? I'm absolutely on board, if it means they are casting the best actor/actress possible and not just stunt casting.

The whole UN thing could work I suppose, but this all seems convoluted for no reason. Typical WB though; diving in head first without even seeing where they are going to land.
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8:54AM on 12/06/2013

Sigh!

WTF is wrong with Hollywood nowadays?!!?? The Superman legend, with Lex Luthor should be followed without deviation from the background of the character, and race of the person as well. If Warner Bros' decides to have an [link] person play the roll, I'm out! Lex Luthor is white! Let the downgrading begin...
WTF is wrong with Hollywood nowadays?!!?? The Superman legend, with Lex Luthor should be followed without deviation from the background of the character, and race of the person as well. If Warner Bros' decides to have an [link] person play the roll, I'm out! Lex Luthor is white! Let the downgrading begin...
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8:57AM on 12/06/2013
A sigh was the first thing I did when I read this as well.
A sigh was the first thing I did when I read this as well.
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8:49AM on 12/06/2013
I'm still hoping for Tom Cruise as Luthor...

If they're going to change it up though... Dennis Haysbert!
I'm still hoping for Tom Cruise as Luthor...

If they're going to change it up though... Dennis Haysbert!
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