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Rumor: Will Christian Bale return as Batman in the Justice League film? Will Zack Snyder direct?

Mar. 3, 2013by: Paul Shirey

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After our scoop about the WB screenings of MAN OF STEEL going so well, this news will likely continue the growing glimmer of hope that the studio is getting their shit together for their DC Universe franchises.  El Mayimbe over at Latino Review has his own inside info on what the current state of the JUSTICE LEAGUE is, as well as WB's plan on bringing back a familiar face to the franchise, namely that of Christian Bale.  Supposedly, WB is looking to saddle Bale back up in the batsuit and reprise his role as Bruce Wayne/Batman alongside Henry Cavill's Clark Kent/Superman. After the recent rumors that Will Beall's script was rejected and that the film was going to be massively delayed, this is certainly some light at the end of the tunnel.

Sound too good to be true?  I don't think so.  I think it sounds like WB finally drinking the smart water and focusing in on delivering the best possible product.  The kicker to all of this?  It looks like WB may be settling in on their own Joss Whedon/J.J. Abrams/Mark Millar by cementing director Christopher Nolan as the "godfather" of the DC Universe movie franchises.

Alongside Nolan, LR is suggesting that MAN OF STEEL's helmer, Zack Snyder, is also coming onboard as a producer for JUSTICE LEAGUE with the option to direct.  No committment as of yet, but it sounds reasonable that WB would pursue the helmer, who is primed to deliver the movie to beat this summer and has proven his committment to a faithful take on DC characters in the past with his vastly underrated WATCHMEN. 

Obviously, this is all "grain of salt" material, but absolutely within the realm of possibliity. With Fox readying a massive X-MEN push and Disney having the one-two punch of STAR WARS: EPISODE VII and the Marvel Cinematic Universe, it seems like WB is priming itself to become a major competitor in the big-budget superhero franchise crossover department.  It feels lke they've been trying to find a way around doing it this way for the longest time.  Have they finally settled on just rolling with the concept?  I mean, Marvel and DC constantly rip each other off with crossovers/reboots/marketing, etc. in the comics.  Why not with the films, too?  It's all fair game.

Certainly, some may think that bringing back Bale to the batsuit may be a bad idea or lessen the impact of the ending of THE DARK KNIGHT RISES, but I see it as a great concept.  There is nothing definitive in the comics universe and I don't see why the films should be any different.  It's all cyclical, and I could see an evolution of Bale jumping back into the suit with great ease.  The actor confessed that he'd miss the cowl in numerous interviews during the press for THE DARK KNIGHT RISES and indeed he's become the face of Batman.  Why give up a great thing that you've made your own if there's a possibility to continue.

You can watch El Mayimbe's full video scoop below and hit us back with your thoughts on this development below!

Extra Tidbit: Could this mean seeing Joseph Gordon-Levitt in a Robin or Nightwing costume as well?
Source: Latino Review

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10:46AM on 03/23/2013
"...[Snyder] has proven his committment to a faithful take on DC characters in the past with his vastly underrated WATCHMEN."
Comment of the century. And absolutely true.
"...[Snyder] has proven his committment to a faithful take on DC characters in the past with his vastly underrated WATCHMEN."
Comment of the century. And absolutely true.
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1:52AM on 03/06/2013

Late to the discussion but.....

This is about as good as news gets surrounding the Justice League movie. If they decided to do a JL movie with a new Batman, then that Batman would never be seen as a separate entity, a true character. He would be seen as the necessary component of the movie in order to make the JL work. In essence, he would be the JL Batman, while the rest of the characters would have stand alone successful franchises to back them. With the possible return of both Bale and Nolan, you get kind of backbone for
This is about as good as news gets surrounding the Justice League movie. If they decided to do a JL movie with a new Batman, then that Batman would never be seen as a separate entity, a true character. He would be seen as the necessary component of the movie in order to make the JL work. In essence, he would be the JL Batman, while the rest of the characters would have stand alone successful franchises to back them. With the possible return of both Bale and Nolan, you get kind of backbone for DC that RDJ and Jon Favreau was for Marvel. And as for negating the ending of TDKR, I think you guys are blind as to how Bruce Wayne's story could continue. Wayne, in the Nolan universe, lost his fortune due to fraudulent trades. Investigation into those trades would be able to pinpoint when Bane took down Wayne Enterprises and National Trade Commission would reverse those trades. Wayne has got this money, 1 problem down. As for his motivation, this is part I think could really work to a JL movie's benefit and give a much darker Batman. So Wayne is retired, banging Anne Hathaway, all is fine and dandy. But now he hears through the news on his travels about Aliens and acts of terror, not just in Gotham but all over the world. And instead of living the happy life he wants, he is pushed back into a life he felt he had left. He is bitter and begins to believe so much in the good in people, but more that there will always be evil and it must be fought. Thus you have the classic optimism vs pessimism that Superman and Batman personify in the comics. I think that makes for awesome character development and drama. Very stoked if this is true.
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7:15AM on 03/05/2013
I think the picture at the top says it all. Why not just make a Batman-Superman movie? No matter how big the budget, its still going to be cheaper to make than a Justice League movie and the storyline can focus solely on batman and superman's relationship instead of jumbled up story that revolves around to 6 different characters (3 of which would be first introduced i a JL movie). This is the next logical step forward in the DC universe. Come on people!
I think the picture at the top says it all. Why not just make a Batman-Superman movie? No matter how big the budget, its still going to be cheaper to make than a Justice League movie and the storyline can focus solely on batman and superman's relationship instead of jumbled up story that revolves around to 6 different characters (3 of which would be first introduced i a JL movie). This is the next logical step forward in the DC universe. Come on people!
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6:00AM on 03/05/2013

Got it!

That moment at the end of TDKR, when Batman is flying the bomb out to sea and just when he looks forward, Aquaman leapt out of the sea riding wave of dolphins and rode off with Batman. Plot issue with TDKR and his connection with the Justice League.....solved. You're welcome, Warner Bros.
That moment at the end of TDKR, when Batman is flying the bomb out to sea and just when he looks forward, Aquaman leapt out of the sea riding wave of dolphins and rode off with Batman. Plot issue with TDKR and his connection with the Justice League.....solved. You're welcome, Warner Bros.
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12:38AM on 03/05/2013

World cannot describe how stoked I am.

Seriously this is like if WB looked into my brain and decided to do what I want. This gif is what best describes how I feel now...

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Seriously this is like if WB looked into my brain and decided to do what I want. This gif is what best describes how I feel now...

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10:25PM on 03/04/2013
I really hope not. Bale was good at delivering a certain angle of Batman's (and Bruce Wayne's) personality, but I would be very happy to give someone else a shot at Batman.

Also, it wouldn't just eliminate the ending of the Dark Knight Rises. It will eliminate the point of the whole movie. If they have any sense in their heads, they won't allow this to happen.

Just cast a new Bruce, in a new universe. It would have to be a new universe anyway, because Chris Nolan's Batverse doesn't gel
I really hope not. Bale was good at delivering a certain angle of Batman's (and Bruce Wayne's) personality, but I would be very happy to give someone else a shot at Batman.

Also, it wouldn't just eliminate the ending of the Dark Knight Rises. It will eliminate the point of the whole movie. If they have any sense in their heads, they won't allow this to happen.

Just cast a new Bruce, in a new universe. It would have to be a new universe anyway, because Chris Nolan's Batverse doesn't gel with aliens, super space cops, and Amazonian warriors. Bale was good, but by no means the end-all be-all of Batmen.
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9:06PM on 03/04/2013
Just get Michael Keaton to reprise Batman again. How kick ass would that be.
Just get Michael Keaton to reprise Batman again. How kick ass would that be.
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10:19PM on 03/04/2013
I dont know if you're trolling but no. Keaton is too short, old, and skinny. I did like him as Batman when I was a kid but Bale perfected the role on film..
I dont know if you're trolling but no. Keaton is too short, old, and skinny. I did like him as Batman when I was a kid but Bale perfected the role on film..
9:04PM on 03/04/2013
Just get Michael Keaton to reprise Batman again. How kick ass would that be.
Just get Michael Keaton to reprise Batman again. How kick ass would that be.
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7:40PM on 03/04/2013

IDK

Remember when JJ Abrams said Star Wars NO WAY?? and no one thought in a million years that he was gonna direct Star Wars 7....We'll things change people. Even if Nolan does get involved that doesn't mean he can't pursue other things while helming a JL movie....does it?
Remember when JJ Abrams said Star Wars NO WAY?? and no one thought in a million years that he was gonna direct Star Wars 7....We'll things change people. Even if Nolan does get involved that doesn't mean he can't pursue other things while helming a JL movie....does it?
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6:42PM on 03/04/2013

o.o

Not sure if epic, or a new word to explain the epicness
Not sure if epic, or a new word to explain the epicness
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2:52PM on 03/04/2013
Bale as batman makes me upset and happy at the same time, his universe wasn't built to work with anything supernatural or alien, but Bale as batman just feels right. I say make that poster from I am legend become legit and give us World's Finest in 2015! Justice league 2017!
Bale as batman makes me upset and happy at the same time, his universe wasn't built to work with anything supernatural or alien, but Bale as batman just feels right. I say make that poster from I am legend become legit and give us World's Finest in 2015! Justice league 2017!
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2:46PM on 03/04/2013
I'll probably take a lot of flack for this, but I'll try to give it a shot.

I'm not an avid comic book reader. For the most part, I've learned about most of these characters from their movies. As a typical audience member, I've never been concerned about origins of characters. For instance, when it came to the Avengers, I had no idea how Black Widow or Hawkeye came to be, but I enjoyed their characters on screen despite this. When I watched the X-Men movies, I wasn't concerned about
I'll probably take a lot of flack for this, but I'll try to give it a shot.

I'm not an avid comic book reader. For the most part, I've learned about most of these characters from their movies. As a typical audience member, I've never been concerned about origins of characters. For instance, when it came to the Avengers, I had no idea how Black Widow or Hawkeye came to be, but I enjoyed their characters on screen despite this. When I watched the X-Men movies, I wasn't concerned about Sabertooth, Nightcrawler, and Cyclops' childhood. Their personalities became apparent as the movie went on.

What is my point to this?

Can't we just have a movie where little tidbits are explained without the need to do a whole movie to introduce characters? Doesn't this just come with good story telling? I would imagine that the sequals could add more and more info as they go that can reveal more about certain characters should the need arise.

After all, people still enjoy the Harry Potter films without knowing every single detail to every single character. Most of these details were spread throughout the series and the audience picked up on them as they went on the journey.

Grant it, I understand that the characters in The Justice League are more than just supporting characters and most feel that they deserve their "big-screen treatment," but the sad fact is that most average movie-going audience members are not in the loop nor care about some superheroes such as Wonder Woman, The Flash, and Aquaman. Why spend money on this if there isn't a high demand?
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2:27PM on 03/04/2013
This made my day! I hope its true. Bale is Batman.
This made my day! I hope its true. Bale is Batman.
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9:04PM on 03/04/2013
No. Keaton is Batman. I do love Bale's Batman as well, but Keaton in my eyes will forever be Batman.
No. Keaton is Batman. I do love Bale's Batman as well, but Keaton in my eyes will forever be Batman.
1:23PM on 03/04/2013

Laughable

After El Mayimbe's BIG, AMAZING Super Bowl scoop about the Hulk storylines have pretty much been debunked, I'm not sure why people still take him and Latino Review seriously anymore. Nolan has repeatedly said he's done with the Dark Knight trilogy. No way he's gonna bring back Bale and continue that same story. It took place in it's own universe...the gritty realism of his movies just won't work with the more fantastical nature of the Justice League. I'm just sitting back and waiting for yet
After El Mayimbe's BIG, AMAZING Super Bowl scoop about the Hulk storylines have pretty much been debunked, I'm not sure why people still take him and Latino Review seriously anymore. Nolan has repeatedly said he's done with the Dark Knight trilogy. No way he's gonna bring back Bale and continue that same story. It took place in it's own universe...the gritty realism of his movies just won't work with the more fantastical nature of the Justice League. I'm just sitting back and waiting for yet another El Mayimbe 'scoop' to be debunked again
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3:32PM on 03/04/2013
They work in the comics. In the comics, their world's are completely different, yet when they mesh, it becomes remarkable.Tthat's what makes it great. The contrast between Batman and Superman is unique. You've got a dark brooding character who deals with psychopaths on a regular basis that practiclly drive him over the edge and you've got an Alien with powers of that of a GOD who's literally alienated by a world that he does not belong to but that he helps protect. You should really pick up a
They work in the comics. In the comics, their world's are completely different, yet when they mesh, it becomes remarkable.Tthat's what makes it great. The contrast between Batman and Superman is unique. You've got a dark brooding character who deals with psychopaths on a regular basis that practiclly drive him over the edge and you've got an Alien with powers of that of a GOD who's literally alienated by a world that he does not belong to but that he helps protect. You should really pick up a comic book and stop retaining comic information strictly from movies.
4:32PM on 03/04/2013
Money talks my friend & giving them total creative control is all it takes. Nolan has nothing more to prove really, he has the fan base to back him up.
Money talks my friend & giving them total creative control is all it takes. Nolan has nothing more to prove really, he has the fan base to back him up.
5:29PM on 03/04/2013
@Jeff Knite, I'm not sure what "retaining comic information strictly from movies" has to do with anything I said? Yes the Dark Knight trilogy and Man of Steel are based on the comics, but that's it. That's all the influence they have. That leaves us with the movies. Which is what we're talking about. The movies, not the comics. What works in the comic book world doesn't necessarily translate into the movies. Plus, everything you just said about Batman being brooding and Superman being an alien
@Jeff Knite, I'm not sure what "retaining comic information strictly from movies" has to do with anything I said? Yes the Dark Knight trilogy and Man of Steel are based on the comics, but that's it. That's all the influence they have. That leaves us with the movies. Which is what we're talking about. The movies, not the comics. What works in the comic book world doesn't necessarily translate into the movies. Plus, everything you just said about Batman being brooding and Superman being an alien in a world he doesn't belong...that doesn't apply strictly to the comics. Pretty sure Nolan's films and MOS will show that too. So again, not sure what you're trying to say here.
@philalva77, you're right, but I just don't see Nolan going for that. He got his taste of the cbms with Batman, and he specifically has a VERY small role in MOS for a reason. I doubt he wants to tie up the next 10 years devoted to cbms. I'm sure he has a lot of other original ideas he wants to pursue. I just don't see this happening at all
12:52PM on 03/04/2013

oy vey

No way this is even close to being true.
No way this is even close to being true.
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12:44PM on 03/04/2013

Yes!

This is the only way. I'm on board and officially stoked - but I think World's Finest is the way to go now and then Justice League in a few years. Either way, looks like Bale is back!
This is the only way. I'm on board and officially stoked - but I think World's Finest is the way to go now and then Justice League in a few years. Either way, looks like Bale is back!
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11:47AM on 03/04/2013
As a huge comic fan, I've never really wanted a JL movie, but a team up between Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman.
But ultimately, I agree with what the article said, this is the best path to a JL movie. Two known quantities that are guaranteed money. THEN introduce the more unknown characters.
As a huge comic fan, I've never really wanted a JL movie, but a team up between Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman.
But ultimately, I agree with what the article said, this is the best path to a JL movie. Two known quantities that are guaranteed money. THEN introduce the more unknown characters.
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11:36AM on 03/04/2013
Well who didn't see this rumor hitting the internet?
Well who didn't see this rumor hitting the internet?
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11:34AM on 03/04/2013
I think this is a bad move for Christopher Nolan. He has so much talent that putting it all into these Super hero movies is a complete waste. It is time for him to move on after this Superman movie.
I think this is a bad move for Christopher Nolan. He has so much talent that putting it all into these Super hero movies is a complete waste. It is time for him to move on after this Superman movie.
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3:22PM on 03/04/2013
Are you fucking kidding me. These are dream projects. And it's not like he still doesn't make his passion projects (which are Big budget extravaganzas in themselves). Stop hating. If you don't like super hero movies, don't watch them. Go watch Little House on the Prairie.
Are you fucking kidding me. These are dream projects. And it's not like he still doesn't make his passion projects (which are Big budget extravaganzas in themselves). Stop hating. If you don't like super hero movies, don't watch them. Go watch Little House on the Prairie.
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11:30AM on 03/04/2013
I really hope this one is true.

Personally I always pictured something major going down, the "group" meets up and talks and then you hear Bale's voice. He walks out of the shadows, Superman says something like, "I thought you retired" Batman replies, "I figure I'm needed." That's all it would take.
I really hope this one is true.

Personally I always pictured something major going down, the "group" meets up and talks and then you hear Bale's voice. He walks out of the shadows, Superman says something like, "I thought you retired" Batman replies, "I figure I'm needed." That's all it would take.
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11:06AM on 03/04/2013

Unfortunetly, I'll only believe it when I see it.

WB is just all talk it seems. I don't have have much faith in WB as a studio and am done taking any JL news seriously. I'm just going to wait til Man of Steel is (hopefully) a success and the DC cinematic Universe gains traction.
WB is just all talk it seems. I don't have have much faith in WB as a studio and am done taking any JL news seriously. I'm just going to wait til Man of Steel is (hopefully) a success and the DC cinematic Universe gains traction.
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10:51AM on 03/04/2013
The problem w/ DC not having the foresight Marvel did. Instead of slowing putting all the pieces together, now they have to scramble, and it seems like whatever they end up cobbling together isn't going to be as good as the Avengers
The problem w/ DC not having the foresight Marvel did. Instead of slowing putting all the pieces together, now they have to scramble, and it seems like whatever they end up cobbling together isn't going to be as good as the Avengers
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10:42AM on 03/04/2013
Like I said, get Batman/Superman movie first. If done right, it can pave the way for JLA movie. So this is a good news.
Like I said, get Batman/Superman movie first. If done right, it can pave the way for JLA movie. So this is a good news.
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10:24AM on 03/04/2013

No thanks!

If this is true, that means WB 's "money men" don't have the guts to open their wallets for new people, new talents to take over DCU's movie incarnation. I mean, even if Nolan is like a magician for them, that everything he touches turns into a cash river, it doesn't mean that he also has the monopoly of "doing things right". I didn't enjoy Nolan's take on Batman, although i liked the movies. There are many aspects of the character that Nolan left out of his vision. There are many people out
If this is true, that means WB 's "money men" don't have the guts to open their wallets for new people, new talents to take over DCU's movie incarnation. I mean, even if Nolan is like a magician for them, that everything he touches turns into a cash river, it doesn't mean that he also has the monopoly of "doing things right". I didn't enjoy Nolan's take on Batman, although i liked the movies. There are many aspects of the character that Nolan left out of his vision. There are many people out there with passion and creativity for the DC properties and particularly Justice League, that can do it right! Seek for a creative team consisted of new talents and just leave Nolan in the past!!!
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9:31AM on 03/04/2013
If they keep the action mainly OUTSIDE Gotham, then this would work better. I personally think Bale is the better choice just for having a recent, successful run as Batman. And one not likely to be eclipsed any time soon. Having a year difference between this iteration of Batman and the new Superman is a further argument in its favor. But I won't necessarily hold my breath either way.
If they keep the action mainly OUTSIDE Gotham, then this would work better. I personally think Bale is the better choice just for having a recent, successful run as Batman. And one not likely to be eclipsed any time soon. Having a year difference between this iteration of Batman and the new Superman is a further argument in its favor. But I won't necessarily hold my breath either way.
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9:05AM on 03/04/2013
That certainly makes a lot of sense. Rather than spending the money and taking the risk of reestablishing Batman for JLA, The Dark Knight series works as an introduction; you can't buy a better foundation than that. And I don't think many people are demanding DKR's conclusion never be touched. That said, I'm a little disappointed I'm now going to have to wait to see someone else's take on Batman, which I was really looking forward to. Frankly, I've really had a enough Nolan, and just about
That certainly makes a lot of sense. Rather than spending the money and taking the risk of reestablishing Batman for JLA, The Dark Knight series works as an introduction; you can't buy a better foundation than that. And I don't think many people are demanding DKR's conclusion never be touched. That said, I'm a little disappointed I'm now going to have to wait to see someone else's take on Batman, which I was really looking forward to. Frankly, I've really had a enough Nolan, and just about enough Snider, but now these guys stand a good chance of owning the two biggest super heroes of all time for a while. ...Aquaman, baby. I'm gonna start looking forward to Aquaman. Yeah! ...
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9:02AM on 03/04/2013

WB is making the only move they can

They have to lock Bale up, and they could only do so with Nolan on board. Goyer is hit and miss, but he's been pretty golden on the Bat-franchise. How to tie it in? Add a post credit-scene of someone watching news reports of this new 'Superman' saving Metropolis. Pan around to see that its Bale, looking on with skepticism in his eye, and then picking up the phone "when is the next flight to Gotham City?" BAM! Audiences drooling for 2 years. Open up the JL movie with JGL as Nightwing, and
They have to lock Bale up, and they could only do so with Nolan on board. Goyer is hit and miss, but he's been pretty golden on the Bat-franchise. How to tie it in? Add a post credit-scene of someone watching news reports of this new 'Superman' saving Metropolis. Pan around to see that its Bale, looking on with skepticism in his eye, and then picking up the phone "when is the next flight to Gotham City?" BAM! Audiences drooling for 2 years. Open up the JL movie with JGL as Nightwing, and then Bale showing up to take back his mantle to find out who this 'Superman" is. The first half is Batman vs Superman, and then it ends up with a massive team up to stop a global threat. They can even keep Nightwing on the team. Any questions?
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9:36AM on 03/04/2013
That would basically be a WORLD FINEST (Batman & Superman) movie, NOT a JLA one...
That would basically be a WORLD FINEST (Batman & Superman) movie, NOT a JLA one...
9:37AM on 03/04/2013
nope, love the idea, and would be a great way to get Nightwing onto the screen while being able to skip the robin step
nope, love the idea, and would be a great way to get Nightwing onto the screen while being able to skip the robin step
8:58AM on 03/04/2013
I want it. But I am not getting my hopes up
I want it. But I am not getting my hopes up
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8:44AM on 03/04/2013
I don't have a problem with Bale's portrayal of Batman, or Nolan's trilogy, but I really think WB should just accept it for what it was and move on with a different interpretation of Batman. Nolan's films were fine, but shouldn't be viewed as the definitive cinematic version of Batman - getting someone else to play the character would be preferable for future Batman films and the Justice League movie, in my opinion. Keeping Bale on board would cause as many narrative problems as it would solve.
I don't have a problem with Bale's portrayal of Batman, or Nolan's trilogy, but I really think WB should just accept it for what it was and move on with a different interpretation of Batman. Nolan's films were fine, but shouldn't be viewed as the definitive cinematic version of Batman - getting someone else to play the character would be preferable for future Batman films and the Justice League movie, in my opinion. Keeping Bale on board would cause as many narrative problems as it would solve.
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8:16AM on 03/04/2013
They need to make sure that the villain is a much more cerebral threat - say a Scarecrow-type threat - than some big out of this world villain. Otherwise there's no reason for Batman to be a part of this Justice League. They need a concept that uses his detective skills. Perhaps he has to stop a mind-controlled Superman. In otherwords, they need to make the anti-Avengers in order to make it work.
They need to make sure that the villain is a much more cerebral threat - say a Scarecrow-type threat - than some big out of this world villain. Otherwise there's no reason for Batman to be a part of this Justice League. They need a concept that uses his detective skills. Perhaps he has to stop a mind-controlled Superman. In otherwords, they need to make the anti-Avengers in order to make it work.
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9:19AM on 03/04/2013
Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Flash, etc. vs......... Scarecrow.
hmmm. you might be on to something.
Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Flash, etc. vs......... Scarecrow.
hmmm. you might be on to something.
9:22AM on 03/04/2013
I said a scarecrow-type character. Or you could be a smartass. Your choice.
I said a scarecrow-type character. Or you could be a smartass. Your choice.
10:04AM on 03/04/2013
I dont see it, it would take something so powerful that superman, or a teamup of batman and superman cant handle to bring the JLA together....Darkside is really the only choice and he is what brought the team together in the new 52
I dont see it, it would take something so powerful that superman, or a teamup of batman and superman cant handle to bring the JLA together....Darkside is really the only choice and he is what brought the team together in the new 52
11:02AM on 03/04/2013
oh a Scarecrow-type character. my bad. read it wrong. that would count Scarecrow out as he's not very Scarecrow-ish.
oh a Scarecrow-type character. my bad. read it wrong. that would count Scarecrow out as he's not very Scarecrow-ish.
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8:07AM on 03/04/2013

that being said...

the video posted here tells me that this is definitely fan-based speculation rather than any type of serious inside scoop. Sure it makes sense when you consider parts of what he's saying but so do different out there theories made by film fans.
the video posted here tells me that this is definitely fan-based speculation rather than any type of serious inside scoop. Sure it makes sense when you consider parts of what he's saying but so do different out there theories made by film fans.
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8:06AM on 03/04/2013
This is very possible. Bruce doesn't actually have to return to Gotham, he can just assist Superman with some threat, but of course there's issues between the two of them and eventually they work it out in preparation for the Justice League.
This is very possible. Bruce doesn't actually have to return to Gotham, he can just assist Superman with some threat, but of course there's issues between the two of them and eventually they work it out in preparation for the Justice League.
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8:01AM on 03/04/2013

Well it's something

I think getting Bale back is a very smart move. However, with the way Dark Knight Rises ended, (if it were my movie), I would start of JL with Lovett as Batman. When things get tough for the JL battling Darksied, Bale returns to action as the Dark Knight, essentially moving Lovett to the Robin spot, or even Nightwing. Once Bale is back in action you could really play that hard on screen as 'This is the real Justice League."
I think getting Bale back is a very smart move. However, with the way Dark Knight Rises ended, (if it were my movie), I would start of JL with Lovett as Batman. When things get tough for the JL battling Darksied, Bale returns to action as the Dark Knight, essentially moving Lovett to the Robin spot, or even Nightwing. Once Bale is back in action you could really play that hard on screen as 'This is the real Justice League."
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8:00AM on 03/04/2013

Well it's something

I think getting Bale back is a very smart move. However, with the way Dark Knight Rises ended, (if it were my movie), I would start of JL with Lovett as Batman. When things get tough for the JL battling Darksied, Bale returns to action as the Dark Knight, essentially moving Lovett to the Robin spot, or even Nightwing. Once Bale is back in action you could really play that hard on screen as 'This is the real Justice League."
I think getting Bale back is a very smart move. However, with the way Dark Knight Rises ended, (if it were my movie), I would start of JL with Lovett as Batman. When things get tough for the JL battling Darksied, Bale returns to action as the Dark Knight, essentially moving Lovett to the Robin spot, or even Nightwing. Once Bale is back in action you could really play that hard on screen as 'This is the real Justice League."
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7:58AM on 03/04/2013

Not the best idea but...

it is better than the JGL rumor so I'm not going to hate it. I think an event and a threat on such a cosmic scale that even Superman can't handle it would be enough to force Bruce Wayne out of retirement and as much as everyone keeps saying he's too realistic, I think it would work perfectly with the approach Man of Steel is taking - setting Superman, basically a God, in a real life environment and finding out what heppens. Seeing man with all his training and intellect fighting as equal to a
it is better than the JGL rumor so I'm not going to hate it. I think an event and a threat on such a cosmic scale that even Superman can't handle it would be enough to force Bruce Wayne out of retirement and as much as everyone keeps saying he's too realistic, I think it would work perfectly with the approach Man of Steel is taking - setting Superman, basically a God, in a real life environment and finding out what heppens. Seeing man with all his training and intellect fighting as equal to a god or even against him, is some incredible movie magic.
HOWEVER... Like I said, it would be best to reboot Batman with a younger actor that could later on return in a sequel and then in his own franchise, where more out of the ordinary characters are possible.
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7:32AM on 03/04/2013

All about it

Personally I'm all about it. You think about the Batman comics, and Bruce Wayne has walked away from the cape and cowl, or been forced to walk away, from time to time. And then he comes back. Why could that not work for this? I will admit, though, that making Nolan's Batman fit into a more fantastical larger DC world would be difficult, but I'd be on board to see it happen.
Personally I'm all about it. You think about the Batman comics, and Bruce Wayne has walked away from the cape and cowl, or been forced to walk away, from time to time. And then he comes back. Why could that not work for this? I will admit, though, that making Nolan's Batman fit into a more fantastical larger DC world would be difficult, but I'd be on board to see it happen.
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7:05AM on 03/04/2013

Please leave the trilogy untouched!

Nolan producing and Snyder directing would be perfect, but please leave Bale out of it! The Dark Knight Trilogy is perfect the way it is and should stay by itself.
IF they really want to build on it, just use Levitt and leave the rest out, that I could live with...but a new Batman would be the way to go.
Nolan producing and Snyder directing would be perfect, but please leave Bale out of it! The Dark Knight Trilogy is perfect the way it is and should stay by itself.
IF they really want to build on it, just use Levitt and leave the rest out, that I could live with...but a new Batman would be the way to go.
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6:48AM on 03/04/2013

make it so WB!

if you remember from TDKR Selina asks Bruce if his Superpowered friend was on the case,Bruce said im working on it.If WB does it right,they can use that line to suggest that just when the bomb goes off Supes couldve come in and save Bruce,setting up the beginning of the JL. with baddies popping up everywhere they can begin to set up a superpowered group.and as far as Bruces fortune goes,has anyone heard of overseas accounts???
if you remember from TDKR Selina asks Bruce if his Superpowered friend was on the case,Bruce said im working on it.If WB does it right,they can use that line to suggest that just when the bomb goes off Supes couldve come in and save Bruce,setting up the beginning of the JL. with baddies popping up everywhere they can begin to set up a superpowered group.and as far as Bruces fortune goes,has anyone heard of overseas accounts???
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9:05AM on 03/05/2013
That could work. If Man of Steel is in fact the first "superhero" to come out into the public, you could tie Superman to saving Batman at the last minute before the bomb explodes. The speed would be enough to do that. Otherwise, as far as I am concerned, Batman shoot the building, ejected and the "BAT" (worst name for a vehicle) was automated to fly towards the ocean.
Your idea is still pretty good, but again a Batman/Superman movie and start establishing other hero's would be better before a
That could work. If Man of Steel is in fact the first "superhero" to come out into the public, you could tie Superman to saving Batman at the last minute before the bomb explodes. The speed would be enough to do that. Otherwise, as far as I am concerned, Batman shoot the building, ejected and the "BAT" (worst name for a vehicle) was automated to fly towards the ocean.
Your idea is still pretty good, but again a Batman/Superman movie and start establishing other hero's would be better before a full on JLA movie.
6:44AM on 03/04/2013

make it so WB!

if you remember from TDKR Selina asks Bruce if his Superpowered friend was on the case,Bruce said im working on it.If WB does it right,they can use that line to suggest that just when the bomb goes off Supes couldve come in and save Bruce,setting up the beginning of the JL. with baddies popping up everywhere they can begin to set up a superpowered group.and as far as Bruces fortune goes,has anyone heard of overseas accounts???
if you remember from TDKR Selina asks Bruce if his Superpowered friend was on the case,Bruce said im working on it.If WB does it right,they can use that line to suggest that just when the bomb goes off Supes couldve come in and save Bruce,setting up the beginning of the JL. with baddies popping up everywhere they can begin to set up a superpowered group.and as far as Bruces fortune goes,has anyone heard of overseas accounts???
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4:19AM on 03/04/2013
To make this work...Man of Steel needs to be towards the last few days of Bane's siege of Gotham. Superman has only just come in to the picture and had his own sh*t going on...so could not help. Once superman reveals himself...others can follow...either inspired by or by comic book coincidence. Bale's Batman can return in a Batman Returns type story. Sure he lost everything he has and an eyes rolling plot device is going to have to be pulled here but just bringing Bale back but starting from
To make this work...Man of Steel needs to be towards the last few days of Bane's siege of Gotham. Superman has only just come in to the picture and had his own sh*t going on...so could not help. Once superman reveals himself...others can follow...either inspired by or by comic book coincidence. Bale's Batman can return in a Batman Returns type story. Sure he lost everything he has and an eyes rolling plot device is going to have to be pulled here but just bringing Bale back but starting from zero...as if the other three movies didn't happen won't work.
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3:07AM on 03/04/2013

If Man of Steel is as good as they say

I could imagine the WB excutives getting Nolan, Snyder, Bale and Cavill together in a room and telling them to make the Justice League franchise happen. It doesn't make sense to hire other people to do a Justice League movie if they already have a producer, director and actors for the roles of Sperman and Batman. What is the problem here?
I could imagine the WB excutives getting Nolan, Snyder, Bale and Cavill together in a room and telling them to make the Justice League franchise happen. It doesn't make sense to hire other people to do a Justice League movie if they already have a producer, director and actors for the roles of Sperman and Batman. What is the problem here?
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3:05AM on 03/04/2013

No Robin

We could just have a Batman / Superman movie. It was implied that Joseph Gordon-Levitt would become Robin after TDKR but don't forget that the Dent Act makes vigilanteeism illegal in Gotham City so Joseph Gordon-Levitt's Robin would be breaking the law everytime he suited up. My interpretation of the ending of TDKR is that it wasn't over, that Gotham City would still have a Batman to protect it from the League of Shadows but that didn't mean that Joseph Gordon-Levitt's Robin would appear in
We could just have a Batman / Superman movie. It was implied that Joseph Gordon-Levitt would become Robin after TDKR but don't forget that the Dent Act makes vigilanteeism illegal in Gotham City so Joseph Gordon-Levitt's Robin would be breaking the law everytime he suited up. My interpretation of the ending of TDKR is that it wasn't over, that Gotham City would still have a Batman to protect it from the League of Shadows but that didn't mean that Joseph Gordon-Levitt's Robin would appear in costume on a regular basis.
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2:39AM on 03/04/2013

Please don't.

WB is jumping the gun yet again. They seem so desperate to have a big Avengers-style crossover/team-up thing happening. Part of the reason Bale's Batman works so well, as explained many times by Nolan himself, is that he exists in a world WITHOUT other heroes. Not that I think Bale would really do it anyway, but if you try to insert Superman into Nolan's Batman universe, everything that was cool about the Dark Knight Trilogy will unravel. LEAVE IT ALONE.
WB is jumping the gun yet again. They seem so desperate to have a big Avengers-style crossover/team-up thing happening. Part of the reason Bale's Batman works so well, as explained many times by Nolan himself, is that he exists in a world WITHOUT other heroes. Not that I think Bale would really do it anyway, but if you try to insert Superman into Nolan's Batman universe, everything that was cool about the Dark Knight Trilogy will unravel. LEAVE IT ALONE.
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1:56AM on 03/04/2013

I don't think...

even snyder can save this film. Idk I just feel a justice league movie just won't work. As much as i fucking want to see it so badly I just feel it'll fall flat on its face. Unless you do 1. hire and amazing writer 2. get a fuckin stellar cast 3. get an amazing director. 4. most of all don't make shitty CGI for the love of god. thats what I feel at least.
even snyder can save this film. Idk I just feel a justice league movie just won't work. As much as i fucking want to see it so badly I just feel it'll fall flat on its face. Unless you do 1. hire and amazing writer 2. get a fuckin stellar cast 3. get an amazing director. 4. most of all don't make shitty CGI for the love of god. thats what I feel at least.
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1:40AM on 03/04/2013
I am ok with this, I mean if it ain't broke don't fix it right? We do have to see how Man of Steel plays out thugh, I mean one positive review is simply not enough. I like Snyder as a director, even Sucker Punch & with Nolan as a producer, this seems like a win win for WB. If ya bring back Bale & Reynolds then it's a good start. I just hope they take their time & stick to their guns. Marvel did & look where it got them. I am also ok with bringing in JGL as either Robin/NIghtwing.
I am ok with this, I mean if it ain't broke don't fix it right? We do have to see how Man of Steel plays out thugh, I mean one positive review is simply not enough. I like Snyder as a director, even Sucker Punch & with Nolan as a producer, this seems like a win win for WB. If ya bring back Bale & Reynolds then it's a good start. I just hope they take their time & stick to their guns. Marvel did & look where it got them. I am also ok with bringing in JGL as either Robin/NIghtwing.
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1:21AM on 03/04/2013

Just a Thought

But what if Bale comes back but not as Nolanverse Bruce? Just came ot my mind but if you think about it it kind of makes sense. Bale comes back to bring a familiar face to Batman but this isn't a Nolanverse film. It's a whole new universe. The DC Cinematic Universe if you will.
But what if Bale comes back but not as Nolanverse Bruce? Just came ot my mind but if you think about it it kind of makes sense. Bale comes back to bring a familiar face to Batman but this isn't a Nolanverse film. It's a whole new universe. The DC Cinematic Universe if you will.
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1:13AM on 03/04/2013
The only way this works if Christopher Nolan is involved is if they also bring back Christian Bale as well. A Justice League movie with "Robin Blake" as Batman would be ridiculous. However I also want to see a good Justice League movie and if 2015 is still the goal date there is no way this won't feel rushed.
The only way this works if Christopher Nolan is involved is if they also bring back Christian Bale as well. A Justice League movie with "Robin Blake" as Batman would be ridiculous. However I also want to see a good Justice League movie and if 2015 is still the goal date there is no way this won't feel rushed.
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12:57AM on 03/04/2013

Whose Idea Is This?

If this is true, I want to meet the person at WB who came up with the idea, find a way to meet him, shake his hand and say "I've lost all respect for you as a person". A half-functioning brain will tell you that not only will this cheapen and literally destroy the TDK trilogy, it will also destroy Man Of Steel in the process. Bruce Wayne donning the mask after TDKR's ending would be really stupid. It defeats the entire purpose of Nolan's trilogy in an instant. And it'll make Batman look like a
If this is true, I want to meet the person at WB who came up with the idea, find a way to meet him, shake his hand and say "I've lost all respect for you as a person". A half-functioning brain will tell you that not only will this cheapen and literally destroy the TDK trilogy, it will also destroy Man Of Steel in the process. Bruce Wayne donning the mask after TDKR's ending would be really stupid. It defeats the entire purpose of Nolan's trilogy in an instant. And it'll make Batman look like a fickle douchebag who blows things up, vanishes, and then just pops right back up with some guy in a cape. Dumbest, most cartoon-like story ever written.
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3:01AM on 03/04/2013
No, it doesn't because we don't know how many years are between TDKR and World's Finest / Justice League / Batman versus Superman / whatever they end up calling it. Let's say Bruce and Selina bum around for a few years but then they call it quits. Bruce dons the cowl again for reasons that really don't need to be explained in a Justice League movie but would probably have to be explained in a Batman / Superman movie. The fact is that Bruce earned a rest after saving Gotham (although arguably
No, it doesn't because we don't know how many years are between TDKR and World's Finest / Justice League / Batman versus Superman / whatever they end up calling it. Let's say Bruce and Selina bum around for a few years but then they call it quits. Bruce dons the cowl again for reasons that really don't need to be explained in a Justice League movie but would probably have to be explained in a Batman / Superman movie. The fact is that Bruce earned a rest after saving Gotham (although arguably he placed Gotham in jeopardy in the first place by having a Thorium reactor hidden under Wayne Industries).
12:42AM on 03/04/2013

They seriously think this will work without cheapening everything that came before?

Okay...there's ambition...there's denial...there's delusion...there's a whole other bunch of crap and then there's this...
Okay...there's ambition...there's denial...there's delusion...there's a whole other bunch of crap and then there's this...
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12:41AM on 03/04/2013

Let Alfred Have His Effing Closure

No. The Nolan/Bale Batman movies do not exist in a world with shape-shifting aliens, Amazon women, magic green rings, and lightning fast crime technicians. Bane doesn't balloon to the size of an elephant, R'as al Ghul doesn't resurrect himself in a Lazarus Pit, Joker didn't survive a dip in a chemical vat, and they even made sure Two-Face got through with his rampage in a matter of hours of escaping the hospital before he died from an inevitable infection.

The Bruce Wayne/Batman story
No. The Nolan/Bale Batman movies do not exist in a world with shape-shifting aliens, Amazon women, magic green rings, and lightning fast crime technicians. Bane doesn't balloon to the size of an elephant, R'as al Ghul doesn't resurrect himself in a Lazarus Pit, Joker didn't survive a dip in a chemical vat, and they even made sure Two-Face got through with his rampage in a matter of hours of escaping the hospital before he died from an inevitable infection.

The Bruce Wayne/Batman story has been told as far as Chris Nolan and Christian Bale are concerned. It was full circle and wonderfully cathartic. That was the accomplishment of the trilogy. Leave it alone.
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3:11AM on 03/04/2013
So... what... a reboot of Batman? Another origin story?
So... what... a reboot of Batman? Another origin story?
4:14PM on 03/04/2013
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12:28AM on 03/04/2013
I may be the minority but Bale sucks as Batman. That aside, I agree with anomaly7. Start their focus on the other 5 characters as well (if indeed all 7 are to be there) otherwise...who gives a f*** about JLA?! Don't make the JLA movie to compete with Marvel cause Marvel is too far ahead now. Just make the movies and make them good. Focus on other players too cause the more to push them aside the less likely you will get a JLA movie. Now a Batman/Superman movie you can do. Or maybe even just do
I may be the minority but Bale sucks as Batman. That aside, I agree with anomaly7. Start their focus on the other 5 characters as well (if indeed all 7 are to be there) otherwise...who gives a f*** about JLA?! Don't make the JLA movie to compete with Marvel cause Marvel is too far ahead now. Just make the movies and make them good. Focus on other players too cause the more to push them aside the less likely you will get a JLA movie. Now a Batman/Superman movie you can do. Or maybe even just do that and cameo Flash and Wonder Woman or Lanterm, bring them into the Universe to get them their single movie then do a JLA. Do something other than trusting Nolan can make this magically work. It's Justice League, not Just Us Batman and Superman League. Do it proper or don't do it at all.
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12:12AM on 03/04/2013
Story, character, and continuity wise this is the smartest and only way to go. If they were to have Bale return that would make the promise and expectations of the Justice League film that much greater and better. Plus they wouldn't have to reboot Batman again for the upteenth time if Bale comes back. Continuity wise it would be great to have all three guys, Cavill, Bale, and Reynolds all reprise their roles than having to recast and having to get used to another actor playing the role.

So
Story, character, and continuity wise this is the smartest and only way to go. If they were to have Bale return that would make the promise and expectations of the Justice League film that much greater and better. Plus they wouldn't have to reboot Batman again for the upteenth time if Bale comes back. Continuity wise it would be great to have all three guys, Cavill, Bale, and Reynolds all reprise their roles than having to recast and having to get used to another actor playing the role.

So this would be pretty amazing if this turns out to be true.
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11:58PM on 03/03/2013

No...

Like most people I'm a huge fan if the Nolan batman trilogy and I think that all the characters should be left alone. I think that the series ended perfectly. So why mess that up?
Like most people I'm a huge fan if the Nolan batman trilogy and I think that all the characters should be left alone. I think that the series ended perfectly. So why mess that up?
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11:55PM on 03/03/2013
I don't understand why WB is so hung up on the Justice Leahue concept. All 3 Nolan Batman films were successful and made a lot of money. I would have to assume a well done Man of Steel trilogy could have the same effect. The Avengers formula is not the only one that makes money. All WB ever talks about is Batman and Superman. Until I have some idea about the plans for Wonder woman and Flash, I really don't see myslef getting excited for Justice League.
I don't understand why WB is so hung up on the Justice Leahue concept. All 3 Nolan Batman films were successful and made a lot of money. I would have to assume a well done Man of Steel trilogy could have the same effect. The Avengers formula is not the only one that makes money. All WB ever talks about is Batman and Superman. Until I have some idea about the plans for Wonder woman and Flash, I really don't see myslef getting excited for Justice League.
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11:59PM on 03/03/2013
They have writers for Wonder Woman, and attempted a tv show. Plus there is Green Lantern,which has a better chance of tying into JL than Nolan-verse. But look at who your shouting at, of course the Avenger;s formula isnt the only one to make money, but Avatar isnt the only sci-fi movie to make money also, but they've started making everything 3D because of it. Hollywood studios are about making money and looking for the latest gimmick for making money,if you want original ideas,look to the film
They have writers for Wonder Woman, and attempted a tv show. Plus there is Green Lantern,which has a better chance of tying into JL than Nolan-verse. But look at who your shouting at, of course the Avenger;s formula isnt the only one to make money, but Avatar isnt the only sci-fi movie to make money also, but they've started making everything 3D because of it. Hollywood studios are about making money and looking for the latest gimmick for making money,if you want original ideas,look to the film makers, and good luck getting the studio and the film maker on the same page.
3:17AM on 03/04/2013
I think we could have three Superman movies with cameos from Batman, Wonder Woman and the Flash before they go ahead with a Justice League movie. They could even recast Batman, Wonder Woman and the Flash before doing a Justice League movie. But you know full well that if they want to be able to compete with Marvel they can't just make Superman and Batman movies over and over again.
I think we could have three Superman movies with cameos from Batman, Wonder Woman and the Flash before they go ahead with a Justice League movie. They could even recast Batman, Wonder Woman and the Flash before doing a Justice League movie. But you know full well that if they want to be able to compete with Marvel they can't just make Superman and Batman movies over and over again.
11:41PM on 03/03/2013

Bad idea

Batman needs to be rebooted for the Justice League movie. Bale said he would not return without Nolan and Nolan said he wont return. Nolan said he is done with Superheroes for now and has already rejected WB for a job as overseer. Having the Bale Batman come back would not only be out of place in the Justice League but diminish the realism the Nolan trilogy tried so hard to set up. Just reboot batman, they are so eager to do with is the cartoons, why are they so against doing the logical thing
Batman needs to be rebooted for the Justice League movie. Bale said he would not return without Nolan and Nolan said he wont return. Nolan said he is done with Superheroes for now and has already rejected WB for a job as overseer. Having the Bale Batman come back would not only be out of place in the Justice League but diminish the realism the Nolan trilogy tried so hard to set up. Just reboot batman, they are so eager to do with is the cartoons, why are they so against doing the logical thing with the movie.
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1:43AM on 03/04/2013
All it takes is a little money & complete control to get all this set in place. If WB is willing to the risk why not?
All it takes is a little money & complete control to get all this set in place. If WB is willing to the risk why not?
11:40PM on 03/03/2013

wow

IF this rumor is true, then it really does seem WB/DC is trying to get their shit in order...Although Nolan said many times Bruce was the only hero in his batverse, so I'm interested to see how this plays out. If it is true I would love it, and if anyone could work it out its Nolan, I've said before Justice League is a very doable movie, Snyder Directing, Nolan (GET) Johns as producers with Goyer and Johns writing a script?? YES PLEASE
IF this rumor is true, then it really does seem WB/DC is trying to get their shit in order...Although Nolan said many times Bruce was the only hero in his batverse, so I'm interested to see how this plays out. If it is true I would love it, and if anyone could work it out its Nolan, I've said before Justice League is a very doable movie, Snyder Directing, Nolan (GET) Johns as producers with Goyer and Johns writing a script?? YES PLEASE
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11:37PM on 03/03/2013

You hear that?

If this is true that's the sound of Joss Whedon shitting his pretensious pants.
If this is true that's the sound of Joss Whedon shitting his pretensious pants.
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11:42PM on 03/03/2013
Yes, shitting in his gold platted $1.5 billion pants
Yes, shitting in his gold platted $1.5 billion pants
11:52PM on 03/03/2013
1.5 billion sure but he had to have the entire Avengers to do it. Nolan and Bale only needed Batman. Imagine what they'll do with Supes, Wonder Woman and the rest of the Justice League.
1.5 billion sure but he had to have the entire Avengers to do it. Nolan and Bale only needed Batman. Imagine what they'll do with Supes, Wonder Woman and the rest of the Justice League.
11:58PM on 03/03/2013
Yes and I think Ryan Reynolds SHOULD COME BACK as Green Lantern. Give him a good script and see how it works out.
Yes and I think Ryan Reynolds SHOULD COME BACK as Green Lantern. Give him a good script and see how it works out.
12:07AM on 03/04/2013
Let's not get too ahead of ourselves here before we start comparing this to Whedon's Avengers.
Let's not get too ahead of ourselves here before we start comparing this to Whedon's Avengers.
12:08AM on 03/04/2013
point taken.Nolan did with one hero what Whedon needed 6 to do.

but if you look at them as characters and not heroes, they come out as about even.Nolan benefited off the characters naturally existing together.A Billionaire,a commissioner,a butler, a criminal (etc).he was able to by past why they exist together and dive straight into an intelligent story. But this is easy, most movies have the one lead to focus and his supporting staff is given. What Whedon did was take 6 leads and craft
point taken.Nolan did with one hero what Whedon needed 6 to do.

but if you look at them as characters and not heroes, they come out as about even.Nolan benefited off the characters naturally existing together.A Billionaire,a commissioner,a butler, a criminal (etc).he was able to by past why they exist together and dive straight into an intelligent story. But this is easy, most movies have the one lead to focus and his supporting staff is given. What Whedon did was take 6 leads and craft them into a working function, something that has arguable never been done so well. Its like asking which is harder to do, juggle one ball or six?
12:16AM on 03/04/2013
Nowheredan136. You make alot of good points. Both directors deserve much credit, but Whedon had the more difficult job of bringing all six of those characters together for one single important purpose.
Nowheredan136. You make alot of good points. Both directors deserve much credit, but Whedon had the more difficult job of bringing all six of those characters together for one single important purpose.
12:26AM on 03/04/2013
If we are really gonna compare the two, should avengers be put up against batman begins, avengers 2 vs dark knight and so on? I love what Nolan did, and im completely onboard for this news, but Whedon made a damn good movie...quint your dead on about Reynolds coming back, he was great as Hal Jordan
If we are really gonna compare the two, should avengers be put up against batman begins, avengers 2 vs dark knight and so on? I love what Nolan did, and im completely onboard for this news, but Whedon made a damn good movie...quint your dead on about Reynolds coming back, he was great as Hal Jordan
12:35AM on 03/04/2013
@ Nowheredan136 You do make a good point but in watching the film I really didn't think that each character had an arch and some of the were kind of shoe horned in. They made such a large deal about Renner as Hawkeye yet he was mainly a zombie henchmen for 2/3 of the film. He shot some arrows at the end and that was about it. I felt that the main focus of the movie was Tony Stark learning to work with others and Banner leaning to control his anger and unleash a better Hulk. It was not that the
@ Nowheredan136 You do make a good point but in watching the film I really didn't think that each character had an arch and some of the were kind of shoe horned in. They made such a large deal about Renner as Hawkeye yet he was mainly a zombie henchmen for 2/3 of the film. He shot some arrows at the end and that was about it. I felt that the main focus of the movie was Tony Stark learning to work with others and Banner leaning to control his anger and unleash a better Hulk. It was not that the movie was bad but not every character had a complete arc. Cap never got to explore being a man out of time. Thor really only seemed to be there because his brother was the one causing trouble and was almost obligated to do so. Did he bring six indivdual characters together and give them a reason for doing so yes. Did he weave them together and explore what each one no. Now i know that would be impossible to do in a 2-3 hour movie but really he didn't touch on a lot of things that could have been done briefly. He picked two characters and let them shine.
12:43AM on 03/04/2013
they are 2 very different movies. i have my opinions, you have yours, no one is more right than the other.

I think both franchises can exist simultaneously. so long as they dont step on each other feet. I wouldve liked to see JL in 2015 and Avengers 2 in 2016, but as it looks now we will get both in 2015. Hopefully DC will push it back one more year as to not rush into it (as they did with Man of Steel) and leave 2015 to Avengers/Star Wars. Disney just has WB beat that year, but theyre is
they are 2 very different movies. i have my opinions, you have yours, no one is more right than the other.

I think both franchises can exist simultaneously. so long as they dont step on each other feet. I wouldve liked to see JL in 2015 and Avengers 2 in 2016, but as it looks now we will get both in 2015. Hopefully DC will push it back one more year as to not rush into it (as they did with Man of Steel) and leave 2015 to Avengers/Star Wars. Disney just has WB beat that year, but theyre is still a chance for DC to win over 2016.
12:50AM on 03/04/2013
Captain Quint, you make a valid argument. But with Captain America, I believe he had a smaller arc in The Avengers because Whedon wants to build up his leadership in becoming the ultimate leader of the Avengers. And I think we will see this bit by bit in Cap's sequels and Avengers 2 and 3. By the time Avengers 3 comes around he will be the ultimate badass leader of The Avengers.

And I also agree with you 100% on bringing back Reynolds for Hal Jordan/Green Lantern. He made the perfect Green
Captain Quint, you make a valid argument. But with Captain America, I believe he had a smaller arc in The Avengers because Whedon wants to build up his leadership in becoming the ultimate leader of the Avengers. And I think we will see this bit by bit in Cap's sequels and Avengers 2 and 3. By the time Avengers 3 comes around he will be the ultimate badass leader of The Avengers.

And I also agree with you 100% on bringing back Reynolds for Hal Jordan/Green Lantern. He made the perfect Green Lantern and it would be a shame for him not to come back and reprise the role again. Also, it would be great for continuity reasons as well.
12:55AM on 03/04/2013
I mean I enjoyed Avengers I didn't think it was a terrible movie but I did leave the movie feeling a little let down. It didn't feel complete to me. Am I looking for a masterpiece? No. But I can see the limitations of this movie as well as the ones in The Dark Knight Rises.
I mean I enjoyed Avengers I didn't think it was a terrible movie but I did leave the movie feeling a little let down. It didn't feel complete to me. Am I looking for a masterpiece? No. But I can see the limitations of this movie as well as the ones in The Dark Knight Rises.
3:23AM on 03/04/2013
There were scenes cut out of the Avenegers that would have given Captain America and Thor more of an arc. And Hawkeye and the Black Widow lacked the benefit of having been in their own movies before the Avengers: they had about as much screen time as everybody else but it only served to introduce them so of course they didn't develop.
There were scenes cut out of the Avenegers that would have given Captain America and Thor more of an arc. And Hawkeye and the Black Widow lacked the benefit of having been in their own movies before the Avengers: they had about as much screen time as everybody else but it only served to introduce them so of course they didn't develop.
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11:31PM on 03/03/2013
If Superman pans out like its looking it will then by all means throw the vault at Bale and get him in the suit again. But F the JLA movie and just do a movie with those 2.
If Superman pans out like its looking it will then by all means throw the vault at Bale and get him in the suit again. But F the JLA movie and just do a movie with those 2.
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