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02.12.2013

It looks like the JUSTICE LEAGUE movie was more wishful thinking than anything. As more and more negative press leaks about the project, Warner Bros. and DC seem to be becoming nervous about the project. First it was a bad script, then Mark Millar's negative comments, and now a rumor that the movie may not see the light of day until after 2017 at the earliest.

Batman on Film is citing sources at WB/DC who are concerned that JUSTICE LEAGUE could cause harm to their already established characters in Superman and Batman. MAN OF STEEL is looking like a sure thing for box office success, but they are now buckling under the pressure.

Here's a quote from the Batman fansite:

“Don’t worry about the Batman [film] franchise…it’s [Warner Bros.’] most valuable [DC Comics-based] asset…I believe that they are now looking at introducing [the rebooted] Batman in a solo film, though that will likely take place later than they initially had planned. They are extremely worried how a [Batman film franchise] would be affected if Justice League bombs…and rightfully so. The fact that what should be the core fanbase of a Justice League film isn’t on board is making them sweat as well.”

I think a JUSTICE LEAGUE movie could work, but they need to be careful and not rush it. Of the core characters they are looking to work with, Green Lantern is the only with a big screen outing aside from Batman or Superman and that movie sucked. Wonder Woman and The Flash would need to gain some traction, even if as minor characters in a MAN OF STEEL sequel or the Batman reboot.

So, just how long do they think Warner Bros will wait for their JUSTICE LEAGUE movie if 2015 doesn't materialize?

“If Superman is huge, then they’ve bought themselves some time and will have a franchise to hang their hat on for seven, eight years. The need for Batman won’t be as great, and [the reboot] of that franchise can wait until the Superman trilogy is done.”

So, 2021? That doesn't even seem like a real year. Plus, by then the superhero genre may be tired and on its last legs. I think if DC is going to do something, they have to do it while Marvel is hot and waiting another decade is not going to do them any favors.

Anyone else still holding out hope for JUSTICE LEAGUE to happen within 2 years?

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2:42PM on 02/14/2013

Here you go WB

I already put down how WB/DCs "phase one" should go in another posting with Man of Steel being their tentpole and having a Batman cameo, then a Flash movie with Reynolds making a cameo as Green Lantern, and a Wonder Woman origin movie showing her becoming Wonder Woman, helping steve trevor and at the end leaving for the world of man, all of it leading up to a Justice League movie with Darkside as the badguy bringing them all together.

Phase 2 should reboot Batman, and adapt the Court of Owls
I already put down how WB/DCs "phase one" should go in another posting with Man of Steel being their tentpole and having a Batman cameo, then a Flash movie with Reynolds making a cameo as Green Lantern, and a Wonder Woman origin movie showing her becoming Wonder Woman, helping steve trevor and at the end leaving for the world of man, all of it leading up to a Justice League movie with Darkside as the badguy bringing them all together.

Phase 2 should reboot Batman, and adapt the Court of Owls story line, Man of Steel 2 has Lex Luthor creating Metallo since he doesnt trust "the alien", Metallo goes rouge and Lex doesnt take the fall for it, then we have Green Lantern 2: Sinestro Corps War pitting Green vs Yellow Lanterns, Then give us Wonder Woman 2 with Ares as the bad guy all leading up to Justice League 2, and maybe do the crisis story line, or our world at war.

Finally phase 3 starts with Aquaman facing of against black manta, then Flash 2, introducing us to Wally West and Reverse Flash, In the second Batman movie introduce the League of Assasians (i know i know we saw them in batman begins and dark knight rises but trust me here) Ra's and Talia, and have them hinting throughout the movie at a bigger plan and how they are just testing Batman. Man of Steel 3 can have him going up against Braniac and then give us a Green Arrow movie. Finally for Justice League 3 use the Tower of Bable story line (this is why we need the League of Assasians).....there you go WB, no need to thank me, just get it done please and get it done right.
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11:52AM on 02/14/2013

What is the damn problem

I mean are u seriously trying to convince me that no one can pull this off. So only Joss Whedon can love and pull off the avengers and I'm lead to believe that no one has that kind of passion for the justice league. Go fuck yourselves. WB is coming off as the jelous kid at school.....JESUS. Put your resources time and money and love into this project. This should be WB's number one priority because you must realize that if you do it right not only will you make bank, but people will fall
I mean are u seriously trying to convince me that no one can pull this off. So only Joss Whedon can love and pull off the avengers and I'm lead to believe that no one has that kind of passion for the justice league. Go fuck yourselves. WB is coming off as the jelous kid at school.....JESUS. Put your resources time and money and love into this project. This should be WB's number one priority because you must realize that if you do it right not only will you make bank, but people will fall back in love with all the DC characters and want more good films. WB stop trying to rush success. TAKE YOUR FUCKING TIME AND MAKE SOMETHING AS EPIC AS THE AVENGERS WAS. What's with the rush? Where's the fire WB? PULL IT TOGETHER.
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9:42PM on 02/13/2013

They don't need to wait that long

Batman doesnt need to be rebooted and we dont need 3 superman movies before Justice League....WB get your heads out of your @sses! you need to establish other characters on the team (Flash, Wonder Woman, Aquaman,) everyone knows batman and superman, they need to get good writers on the other characters movies because superman and batman sell themselves, i mean that "flop" superman returns still made 300million....
Batman doesnt need to be rebooted and we dont need 3 superman movies before Justice League....WB get your heads out of your @sses! you need to establish other characters on the team (Flash, Wonder Woman, Aquaman,) everyone knows batman and superman, they need to get good writers on the other characters movies because superman and batman sell themselves, i mean that "flop" superman returns still made 300million....
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3:48PM on 02/13/2013
This is good for them. Establish characters with the audience and by the time Justice League rolls around they won't flat out be copying Marvel.
This is good for them. Establish characters with the audience and by the time Justice League rolls around they won't flat out be copying Marvel.
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11:57AM on 02/13/2013

Smart move

I think D.C. is smart to delay the Justice League film until they can establish a few more characters. With the Green Lantern's failure and the end of the Nolan Batman franchise I think they need to set up at least one other character (even if it's simply through a better Green Lantern) before they jump into a film of this proportion.

And I would hope that maybe they'll bring back Batman before this team movie. But like everyone else I don't want another origin story. I know it's just
I think D.C. is smart to delay the Justice League film until they can establish a few more characters. With the Green Lantern's failure and the end of the Nolan Batman franchise I think they need to set up at least one other character (even if it's simply through a better Green Lantern) before they jump into a film of this proportion.

And I would hope that maybe they'll bring back Batman before this team movie. But like everyone else I don't want another origin story. I know it's just been made into a two part animated feature, but I would love it if they went with Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns storyline. We're familiar enough with the story that we don't need to know how Batman began. Let's get an older actor in there (someone like Clive Owen would be my dream casting) and tell a gritty but possibly stylized story. With Zack Snyder directing Man of Steel they have a good in to pull Miller into this D.C. universe. And The Dark Knight returns would give plenty of room to keep in line with the realistic yet fantastic tone they seem to be setting up for this new Superman franchise.
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10:32AM on 02/13/2013

of course it can work

They're over analyzing it.just do a green lantern sequel while introducing the flash in it,do a superman sequel introducing wonder woman,do their batman reboot focusing on ol bats adapting to the fact that superhuman beings are joining in on the fight against evil.then you do flash and a wonder woman film both utilizing characters from both bats and supes much like iron man 2 did,iron man 2 was basically an avengers set up film.paid off for the bigger picture but it will be the weakest of the
They're over analyzing it.just do a green lantern sequel while introducing the flash in it,do a superman sequel introducing wonder woman,do their batman reboot focusing on ol bats adapting to the fact that superhuman beings are joining in on the fight against evil.then you do flash and a wonder woman film both utilizing characters from both bats and supes much like iron man 2 did,iron man 2 was basically an avengers set up film.paid off for the bigger picture but it will be the weakest of the trilogy.and I'm just spit firing here.....it can be done!
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9:48AM on 02/13/2013
Can't they just make a great duo movie with just Supes and Bats or something? I really think the Justice League movie is not film worthy.
Can't they just make a great duo movie with just Supes and Bats or something? I really think the Justice League movie is not film worthy.
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4:28PM on 02/13/2013
World's Finest? Why not.
World's Finest? Why not.
8:45AM on 02/13/2013
WB should just give up. Lost opportunities have made things harder for them. first starters, do we really need another Batman origin? Why do we need a Man of Steel Trilogy before even attempting to get any other members not Superman or Batman on the big screen? Do you really think whoring the two biggest DC names into their own movies, again, when they technically HAVE A SHIT LOAD OF MOVIES as it stands is really gonna help the, wait for this, TEAM movie happen? TEAM, means including the rest
WB should just give up. Lost opportunities have made things harder for them. first starters, do we really need another Batman origin? Why do we need a Man of Steel Trilogy before even attempting to get any other members not Superman or Batman on the big screen? Do you really think whoring the two biggest DC names into their own movies, again, when they technically HAVE A SHIT LOAD OF MOVIES as it stands is really gonna help the, wait for this, TEAM movie happen? TEAM, means including the rest of them. GL had his shot, don't just give up and start fresh, work with it. Hell, now that you have a GL universe, maybe switch it up and get Reynor, or Stewart instead of Hal. Just pick something. (I vote John Stewart if that's the case)
Next, why not start introducing other DC characters into the universe, even non-JLA people. Part of Marvel's success is being bold and opening up this Marvel Universe. The key isn't "How to rush a JLA movie", no. The key is starting the DC universe and making them all one. Start there and work your way up to a JLA film
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8:40AM on 02/13/2013
2021 does seem a long way off, but I'd rather they made films they were confident about with the right actors and writers than whipping out a Justice League film in a few years just to chase after Marvel. Maybe we'll finally get a Batman/Superman movie in the mean time, seeing as they're the only characters they seem to have any faith in.
2021 does seem a long way off, but I'd rather they made films they were confident about with the right actors and writers than whipping out a Justice League film in a few years just to chase after Marvel. Maybe we'll finally get a Batman/Superman movie in the mean time, seeing as they're the only characters they seem to have any faith in.
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4:08AM on 02/13/2013

JUSTICE LEAGUE DESERVES A MOVIE

I think they should make the JL movie. The JL deserves a film. Even if the film fails critically and or commercially. Hopefully that doesn't happen because it should be treated with care. They need to put
freaking Aquaman in the damn thing though! Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman, Green Lantern, Aquaman,
Flash, and Captain Marvel would be my personal dream line up. Not that that matters! I hope they do it. It could be waaaaay better than The Avengers!
I think they should make the JL movie. The JL deserves a film. Even if the film fails critically and or commercially. Hopefully that doesn't happen because it should be treated with care. They need to put
freaking Aquaman in the damn thing though! Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman, Green Lantern, Aquaman,
Flash, and Captain Marvel would be my personal dream line up. Not that that matters! I hope they do it. It could be waaaaay better than The Avengers!
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2:36AM on 02/13/2013

The Flash

They need to do a Flash movie. Maybe they should also greenlight a Green Lantern sequel or two. They can replace Ryan Reynolds if they think he was the problem. They don't need a Wonder Woman movie competing with the Amazon TV series. I would have no problem with a Justice League movie if they do a Superman / Batman movie first. In fact, rather than do a Batman reboot, let's do a Superman / Batman movie first and maybe a sequel (World's Finest and World's Finest 2). When the Arrow and Amazon
They need to do a Flash movie. Maybe they should also greenlight a Green Lantern sequel or two. They can replace Ryan Reynolds if they think he was the problem. They don't need a Wonder Woman movie competing with the Amazon TV series. I would have no problem with a Justice League movie if they do a Superman / Batman movie first. In fact, rather than do a Batman reboot, let's do a Superman / Batman movie first and maybe a sequel (World's Finest and World's Finest 2). When the Arrow and Amazon series have run their course they can have the actors reprise their roles on the big screen.

EDIT: It is too soon to say anything about the Amazon series. Maybe they won't go ahead with it. But the Arrow series is a big enough hit that they might want to include Green Arrow in the Justice League movie.
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2:02AM on 02/13/2013

Two Words: CHRISTIAN BALE

They can brainstorm all they want but it's always been right in front of their face. They know it but they don't want to admit it. He's always been the key. They just don't want to give him that much power by letting him know that Billions of dollars could be made because of him.. Disney took a big chance on a Crack Head and it's paid off in Spades. Robert Downey Jr basically runs the Marvel section of the Mouse House and everybody knows it. Because of him and his character being intertwined
They can brainstorm all they want but it's always been right in front of their face. They know it but they don't want to admit it. He's always been the key. They just don't want to give him that much power by letting him know that Billions of dollars could be made because of him.. Disney took a big chance on a Crack Head and it's paid off in Spades. Robert Downey Jr basically runs the Marvel section of the Mouse House and everybody knows it. Because of him and his character being intertwined in every Marvel movie, it felt special, even if every movie wasn't spectacular, you felt like you was part of something cool. And then you got Nolan whose producing MAN OF STEEL but wont ask his boy Bale to join the party. And why isn't he and his brother working on the Justice League script. The whole shit doesn't sound right.
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1:25AM on 02/13/2013

Wonder Woman

There's the question of whether or not they should allow the CW to go ahead with their plans for an Amazon series. If the Amazon series is good they will be kicking themselves because they could have taken the premise and made a big budget Wonder Woman movie but if it is bad then it will be another failed Wonder Woman series that will make it harder for people to want to go see a Wonder Woman movie.
There's the question of whether or not they should allow the CW to go ahead with their plans for an Amazon series. If the Amazon series is good they will be kicking themselves because they could have taken the premise and made a big budget Wonder Woman movie but if it is bad then it will be another failed Wonder Woman series that will make it harder for people to want to go see a Wonder Woman movie.
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12:39AM on 02/13/2013
How about a Trinity movie first?
How about a Trinity movie first?
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11:48PM on 02/12/2013

How WB should handle the DC film Universe

I just figured out how WB can make an epic Justice League movie and top The Avengers if they follow what Marvel did, just have a lot of movies in the DC phase one to create the DC Film Universe. first Man of Steel, then new Batman film, but follow Nolanís rule for what he did with the Joker..The Joker simply was, no origin story needed so that means new Batman film needs to be Arkham Asylum, half of the comic book story line and the other half the video game story, it adds some super natural
I just figured out how WB can make an epic Justice League movie and top The Avengers if they follow what Marvel did, just have a lot of movies in the DC phase one to create the DC Film Universe. first Man of Steel, then new Batman film, but follow Nolanís rule for what he did with the Joker..The Joker simply was, no origin story needed so that means new Batman film needs to be Arkham Asylum, half of the comic book story line and the other half the video game story, it adds some super natural elements that can be used for Justice League film. then redue Green Lantern with Nathan Fillion then give us Ryan Gosling as The Flash, Make an epic Wonder Woman film (greek tragedies are always a fun film) then Batman the Long Halloween story line adds more villains. then Aquaman seeing as that is a shakespearean story that would make a great film let alone a fantastic franchise. and then finally the Justice League movie which introduces Martian Manhunter (final member of JLA) just watch the 1st episode of the Justice League animated series and it had the perfect team-up storyline.

Then Phase 2 starts with Superman 2 facing Brainiac, Batman Arkham city adding Mr. Freeze story line and due justice with that character with a great actor a Ben Kingsley or Patrick Stewart work best also the ending of the game can be a set up for Batman Beyond after Justice League 2 film, Aquaman 2 where he fights Black Manta (his top villain) Green Lantern 2 (really its 3 but it should be 2) Sinestro corps. wars, Wonder Woman 2 where she has to fight Hades or Circe ( her top villains) The Flash 2 where he fights Captain Cold or Gorilla Grodd or Zoom (his villains) the Justice League 2 aka Green Arrow Super Max where Green Arrow is introduced and he is sent to prison for a crime he did not commit and he is in prison for super criminals then after that Batman Beyond trilogy (yes one of them can be the return of the Joker story line like the animated film. and also reference Nolanís Robin John Blake when the new Batman asks What happened to the other sidekicks Bruce Wayne would something like ďthey didnít have the heart for the mission, the only thing that matters is the missionĒ.

Then after completing the 3rd films of each super hero the Justice League 3 film would be crisis on infinite earths story line that shows that many multiverse versions of the characters (that could sell the fact why the actors changed after this run of films) or Justice League tower of babel storyline where Batman has a contingency plan in case the JLA goes rogue then super Villains steal the plan and put it into action either way that would be a fun film to see.
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11:45PM on 02/12/2013

How WB should handle the DC film Universe

I just figured out how WB can make an epic Justice League movie and top The Avengers if they follow what Marvel did, just have a lot of movies in the DC phase one to create the DC Film Universe. first Man of Steel, then new Batman film, but follow Nolanís rule for what he did with the Joker..The Joker simply was, no origin story needed so that means new Batman film needs to be Arkham Asylum, half of the comic book story line and the other half the video game story, it adds some super natural
I just figured out how WB can make an epic Justice League movie and top The Avengers if they follow what Marvel did, just have a lot of movies in the DC phase one to create the DC Film Universe. first Man of Steel, then new Batman film, but follow Nolanís rule for what he did with the Joker..The Joker simply was, no origin story needed so that means new Batman film needs to be Arkham Asylum, half of the comic book story line and the other half the video game story, it adds some super natural elements that can be used for Justice League film. then redue Green Lantern with Nathan Fillion then give us Ryan Gosling as The Flash, Make an epic Wonder Woman film (greek tragedies are always a fun film) then Batman the Long Halloween story line adds more villains. then Aquaman seeing as that is a shakespearean story that would make a great film let alone a fantastic franchise. and then finally the Justice League movie which introduces Martian Manhunter (final member of JLA) just watch the 1st episode of the Justice League animated series and it had the perfect team-up storyline.

Then Phase 2 starts with Superman 2 facing Brainiac, Batman Arkham city adding Mr. Freeze story line and due justice with that character with a great actor a Ben Kingsley or Patrick Stewart work best also the ending of the game can be a set up for Batman Beyond after Justice League 2 film, Aquaman 2 where he fights Black Manta (his top villain) Green Lantern 2 (really its 3 but it should be 2) Sinestro corps. wars, Wonder Woman 2 where she has to fight Hades or Circe ( her top villains) The Flash 2 where he fights Captain Cold or Gorilla Grodd or Zoom (his villains) the Justice League 2 aka Green Arrow Super Max where Green Arrow is introduced and he is sent to prison for a crime he did not commit and he is in prison for super criminals then after that Batman Beyond trilogy (yes one of them can be the return of the Joker story line like the animated film. and also reference Nolanís Robin John Blake when the new Batman asks What happened to the other sidekicks Bruce Wayne would something like ďthey didnít have the heart for the mission, the only thing that matters is the missionĒ.

Then after completing the 3rd films of each super hero the Justice League 3 film would be crisis on infinite earths story line that shows that many multiverse versions of the characters (that could sell the fact why the actors changed after this run of films) or Justice League tower of babel storyline where Batman has a contingency plan in case the JLA goes rogue then super Villains steal the plan and put it into action either way that would be a fun film to see.
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11:41PM on 02/12/2013

When they reboot Batman.

I wonder if we'll get Joker & Catwoman in the same film...or if they wouldn't touch those characters considering the Heath Ledger & Anne Hathaway were both well liked and very recent. Maybe we'll get that Catwoman spinoff prequel before they reboot it if they really have pushed JL back.
I wonder if we'll get Joker & Catwoman in the same film...or if they wouldn't touch those characters considering the Heath Ledger & Anne Hathaway were both well liked and very recent. Maybe we'll get that Catwoman spinoff prequel before they reboot it if they really have pushed JL back.
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10:53PM on 02/12/2013

Interesting.

I think what they're trying to do, if I'm reading this correctly, is give enough time for the characters to be fleshed out more before they do something with any of them. As in it all begins and ends with Superman. If this does well, which it might, then the studio will fast track other DC movies. However if it doesn't perform, which is very possible given the box office numbers of Snyder's Sucker Punch, then they want enough room to go back to the drawing board. The why is simple: trusting
I think what they're trying to do, if I'm reading this correctly, is give enough time for the characters to be fleshed out more before they do something with any of them. As in it all begins and ends with Superman. If this does well, which it might, then the studio will fast track other DC movies. However if it doesn't perform, which is very possible given the box office numbers of Snyder's Sucker Punch, then they want enough room to go back to the drawing board. The why is simple: trusting Nolan alone would be putting all their eggs into one basket. He's only the PRODUCER on this movie. All eyes are on what SNYDER can do DIRECTING Man of Steel. He doesn't need more pressure, and god bless him for what we've seen so far, but Hollywood is superstitious. See its better to have hired gun waiting over your shoulder just in case, like Bob the Goon in Burton's Batman, than to walk into a gunfight armed only with a squirt gun. :D And some of us, more than others, are a crackshot at helping get the needed job done correctly. ;) Thanks for the wartime decoy, kid. Daddy is home from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan ready more than ever to take it from here. B-|
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11:48PM on 02/12/2013
The box office numbers of Sucker Punch has nothing to do with Man of Steel's numbers. It's about the content, not the director.
The box office numbers of Sucker Punch has nothing to do with Man of Steel's numbers. It's about the content, not the director.
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9:26PM on 02/12/2013

Dear WB,

First, get your heads out of your butts. Second, this isn't that hard. Just copy what Marvel did, right down to the wire. You saw how successful The Avengers was, right? You can do the same for the Justice League. There are amazing similarities you're not considering. Look:

1) You've already come out with a Green Lantern movie which got poor reviews. Let's call that one the equivalent of Ang Lee's Hulk. (Hey they're both green too!)
2) You have Man of Steel coming out this summer.
First, get your heads out of your butts. Second, this isn't that hard. Just copy what Marvel did, right down to the wire. You saw how successful The Avengers was, right? You can do the same for the Justice League. There are amazing similarities you're not considering. Look:

1) You've already come out with a Green Lantern movie which got poor reviews. Let's call that one the equivalent of Ang Lee's Hulk. (Hey they're both green too!)
2) You have Man of Steel coming out this summer. Great! Let's call that the equivalent of Marvel's first Iron Man movie (Flying invulnerable heroes!)
3) Start prepping the GL reboot NOW! Like right now! As in, today! If you work quickly enough you can have it out by summer or fall of 2014. This will be your version of The Incredible Hulk (the one with Ed Norton).
4) After that you have some options. In 2015 you could release Man of Steel II, but if two years from the last one isn't enough time to do it justice (pun), make a Wonder Woman movie instead. Might as well use the WWII script, this will be your Captain America: The First Avenger equivalent. Please don't make it suck.
5) In 2016, now release Man of Steel II (your Iron Man 2). While you're at it, go ahead and make a Flash movie. I realize producing two big comic book movies in the same year is a daunting task, but if Marvel can do it, so can you.
6) Finally the stage is set. The build up has been established and the hype is at full fury. Let 2017 be the year these heroes finally join forces on screen for the glorious JL movie! Bring Batman in at this point because he doesn't need any more standalone films any time soon. Also add Martian Manhunter to the mix for extra flavor.

There, see how easy that was? Beyond this you can continue making whatever sequels you want, hell do Man of Steel III if you're so in love with the trilogy idea.

After you have used this plan to make more money than God, you can send me my consulting fee by mail. Stay classy, WB.
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2:36AM on 02/13/2013
The only problem with this analogy is that The Incredible Hulk was a big shiny turd with a lot of pretty CGI but no substance. It wasn't that hard for Marvel to replace Edward Norton and find someone who did a better Bruce Banner. Really, Ang Lee's Hulk was not that bad by comparison.
The only problem with this analogy is that The Incredible Hulk was a big shiny turd with a lot of pretty CGI but no substance. It wasn't that hard for Marvel to replace Edward Norton and find someone who did a better Bruce Banner. Really, Ang Lee's Hulk was not that bad by comparison.
8:35AM on 02/13/2013
The Incredible Hulk was much better than Ang Lee's Hulk even though I enjoy both for various reasons

And The Incredible Hulk is one of Marvels best films. I sometimes think that it is the best solo Avengers film.
The Incredible Hulk was much better than Ang Lee's Hulk even though I enjoy both for various reasons

And The Incredible Hulk is one of Marvels best films. I sometimes think that it is the best solo Avengers film.
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7:44PM on 02/12/2013

This Isn't Rocket Science

I'm happy they are postponing Justice League, however you don't have to put everything on hold while you churn out a Superman trilogy. Marvel had 4 stand alones going at once, Avengers and now sequels to three of those plus Ant Man, Guardians of the Galaxy and Doctor Strange. Do Superman, let that be the Justice League kickoff film, then recast Batman (sign him to a six picture deal), rework Green Lantern because I think some of that film worked but most failed. The question will be though if
I'm happy they are postponing Justice League, however you don't have to put everything on hold while you churn out a Superman trilogy. Marvel had 4 stand alones going at once, Avengers and now sequels to three of those plus Ant Man, Guardians of the Galaxy and Doctor Strange. Do Superman, let that be the Justice League kickoff film, then recast Batman (sign him to a six picture deal), rework Green Lantern because I think some of that film worked but most failed. The question will be though if you can successefully make a Wonder Woman, Flash and especially Aquaman film. If you can't, then there is no reason Batman and Superman can't team up is there? Someone needs to take control over there at Warner Bros/ DC.
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7:40PM on 02/12/2013

This Isn't Rocket Science

I'm happy they are postponing Justice League, however you don't have to put everything on hold while you churn out a Superman trilogy. Marvel had 4 stand alones going at once, Avengers and now sequels to three of those plus Ant Man, Guardians of the Galaxy and Doctor Strange. Do Superman, let that be the Justice League kickoff film, then recast Batman (sign him to a six picture deal), rework Green Lantern because I think some of that film worked but most failed. The question will be though if
I'm happy they are postponing Justice League, however you don't have to put everything on hold while you churn out a Superman trilogy. Marvel had 4 stand alones going at once, Avengers and now sequels to three of those plus Ant Man, Guardians of the Galaxy and Doctor Strange. Do Superman, let that be the Justice League kickoff film, then recast Batman (sign him to a six picture deal), rework Green Lantern because I think some of that film worked but most failed. The question will be though if you can successefully make a Wonder Woman, Flash and especially Aquaman film. If you can't, then there is no reason Batman and Superman can't team up is there? Someone needs to take control over there at Warner Bros/ DC.
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7:25PM on 02/12/2013

COME ON DC...you can do it!

I agree that DC needs to bulid up their movie foundation before they can have a Justice League movie. We saw that Mavel did that before they brought on the Avengers . DC needs to hire a good team of writers, producers, etc and map out their superhero movie future. At the same time, they cant sit on their hands and wait or stall on things. I think Superman and Batman are sucessful , even without new movies....they need to get the Wonder Woman movie done and the Flash movie done. People say, well
I agree that DC needs to bulid up their movie foundation before they can have a Justice League movie. We saw that Mavel did that before they brought on the Avengers . DC needs to hire a good team of writers, producers, etc and map out their superhero movie future. At the same time, they cant sit on their hands and wait or stall on things. I think Superman and Batman are sucessful , even without new movies....they need to get the Wonder Woman movie done and the Flash movie done. People say, well Green Lantern sucked....well heck the Avengers weakest link was Hulk (the reboot helped). Long story short....DC needs to plan out their future, get a strong base and move forward effectively.
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6:44PM on 02/12/2013
And Green Lantern didn't suck. At best it was very good. Personally I find it to be amazing and Green Lantern is one of my favorite superheroes, but regarding the whole general public I think the movie was good. If DC was smart they would bring back Ryan Reynolds who was the perfect Hal Jordan/Green Lantern and who was also the best part of the film. Also, it would help for continuity. And make the tone a bit more serious and darker this time around. It can be done.
And Green Lantern didn't suck. At best it was very good. Personally I find it to be amazing and Green Lantern is one of my favorite superheroes, but regarding the whole general public I think the movie was good. If DC was smart they would bring back Ryan Reynolds who was the perfect Hal Jordan/Green Lantern and who was also the best part of the film. Also, it would help for continuity. And make the tone a bit more serious and darker this time around. It can be done.
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8:09PM on 02/12/2013
Just....just, stop talking. I'm a marvel fan, but would love to see a Justice league movie, but I think Green Lantern was no where as good as you may think and that they should reboot in a hulk fashion and recast the part or bring in one of the other Lanterns, that way they at least have a reasonable way of rebooting it. But back to what I was saying. Just shut up!
Just....just, stop talking. I'm a marvel fan, but would love to see a Justice league movie, but I think Green Lantern was no where as good as you may think and that they should reboot in a hulk fashion and recast the part or bring in one of the other Lanterns, that way they at least have a reasonable way of rebooting it. But back to what I was saying. Just shut up!
9:09PM on 02/12/2013
Hey there self admitted "marvel fan" - right off the bat - you've declared your bias. Thanks - YOU can shut up now. Soloist is entitled to his opinion. Soloist - Green Lantern didn't suck. it wasn't an awful film. The audience's expectations were too high. It's a good film. it's enjoyable even. it's not perfect, if anything it tried to include too much, to compress too much story into one film and they should have paced themselves a little better. But it doesn't need a reboot.
Hey there self admitted "marvel fan" - right off the bat - you've declared your bias. Thanks - YOU can shut up now. Soloist is entitled to his opinion. Soloist - Green Lantern didn't suck. it wasn't an awful film. The audience's expectations were too high. It's a good film. it's enjoyable even. it's not perfect, if anything it tried to include too much, to compress too much story into one film and they should have paced themselves a little better. But it doesn't need a reboot.
2:49AM on 02/13/2013
I agree that GL didn't suck, it just didn't live up to the expectations. It took forever for him to get into the suit & certain scenes were just corny as hell. I also agree that they need to bring Ryan Reynolds back
I agree that GL didn't suck, it just didn't live up to the expectations. It took forever for him to get into the suit & certain scenes were just corny as hell. I also agree that they need to bring Ryan Reynolds back
3:04AM on 02/13/2013
Sinistro: The ring chose you, although personally I believe the ring chose wrong.

Jordan: You know, you're right. The ring did choose wrong and I quit.

Audience member 1: The producer chose these writers, although personally I believe he chose wrong.

Audience member 2: You know, you're right. Let's go find another movie to watch.
Sinistro: The ring chose you, although personally I believe the ring chose wrong.

Jordan: You know, you're right. The ring did choose wrong and I quit.

Audience member 1: The producer chose these writers, although personally I believe he chose wrong.

Audience member 2: You know, you're right. Let's go find another movie to watch.
8:38AM on 02/13/2013
Tearlis you mad? And I would never tell someone to 'just shut up' if they enjoyed a film so much. Douche.
Tearlis you mad? And I would never tell someone to 'just shut up' if they enjoyed a film so much. Douche.
10:21AM on 02/13/2013
,I'm right, the movie was garbage, don't care if you all agree with me or not, and I am a self admitting marvel fan, matter fact im a spiderman fan since the late 70s, and i wasnt impressed with the latest movie. With me loving marvel more than dc doesn't mean I don't want to see a justice league movie, I would love to see it. So to george and soloist, neither hof you have proved your argument, probably why you over 20 + thumbs down.
,I'm right, the movie was garbage, don't care if you all agree with me or not, and I am a self admitting marvel fan, matter fact im a spiderman fan since the late 70s, and i wasnt impressed with the latest movie. With me loving marvel more than dc doesn't mean I don't want to see a justice league movie, I would love to see it. So to george and soloist, neither hof you have proved your argument, probably why you over 20 + thumbs down.
10:56AM on 02/13/2013
But I will admit it may have been little harsh to tell someone to shut up, but so you know, your part of a small majority that enjoys the movie.
But I will admit it may have been little harsh to tell someone to shut up, but so you know, your part of a small majority that enjoys the movie.
12:32PM on 02/14/2013
While it did have some good things in it, mostly the choice for actors imo, it was a jumbled mess throwing too many villians and not enough story, the story should have focused on Hal and Sinestros friendship, and the suit was god awful, that said i really think they should give it another chance with Reynolds back as GL because he fit the role nicely and with the cgi now they could do some really cool things with the ring
While it did have some good things in it, mostly the choice for actors imo, it was a jumbled mess throwing too many villians and not enough story, the story should have focused on Hal and Sinestros friendship, and the suit was god awful, that said i really think they should give it another chance with Reynolds back as GL because he fit the role nicely and with the cgi now they could do some really cool things with the ring
6:38PM on 02/12/2013
When you can't find in your roster a 3rd character interesting enough to make a film, you don't make a team-up movie. Until WB find a way to make a [link] superhero franchise successful, they don't deserve a Justice League franchise.
When you can't find in your roster a 3rd character interesting enough to make a film, you don't make a team-up movie. Until WB find a way to make a [link] superhero franchise successful, they don't deserve a Justice League franchise.
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6:38PM on 02/12/2013
Looking at all of the controversy of this film, I think this is the best thing that DC can do regarding Justice League. They should just follow Marvel's formula and have their first phase start with Man of Steel and then get Flash or Wonder Woman going then another sequel to Green Lantern or Man of Steel and then just go from there building up each character which will lead to Justice League. I have no problem waiting for Justicr League because I think if we get the proper origin films and
Looking at all of the controversy of this film, I think this is the best thing that DC can do regarding Justice League. They should just follow Marvel's formula and have their first phase start with Man of Steel and then get Flash or Wonder Woman going then another sequel to Green Lantern or Man of Steel and then just go from there building up each character which will lead to Justice League. I have no problem waiting for Justicr League because I think if we get the proper origin films and sequels for each character done right like Marvel did then the wait shouldn't be so excruciating.

I think if done right DC has great promise going forward with all of their franchises. Lets do this right DC!
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10:30AM on 02/13/2013
So your best answer is to copy someone else's formula, not to be original, but to do the same thing marvel did. And you also suggest that we sit through more origin movies, I think the only origin they should worry about is the Flash, and even then that can be done in the J.L. through some flash back when characters meet. Don't have to do it that way, but another origin of batman and superman is what we don't need, I'm sure a lot of people agree.
So your best answer is to copy someone else's formula, not to be original, but to do the same thing marvel did. And you also suggest that we sit through more origin movies, I think the only origin they should worry about is the Flash, and even then that can be done in the J.L. through some flash back when characters meet. Don't have to do it that way, but another origin of batman and superman is what we don't need, I'm sure a lot of people agree.
6:38PM on 02/12/2013
Get Batman vs. Superman movie and get it right, WB. If you rush Justice League movie, it could be your new Batman & Robin movie.
Get Batman vs. Superman movie and get it right, WB. If you rush Justice League movie, it could be your new Batman & Robin movie.
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6:37PM on 02/12/2013

I would rather see a World's Finest movie than The Avengers 2.

But I've always loved DC more. To me, just Supes and Bats are bigger than any of the Avengers (not including Spider-man but he don't count cuz Sony).
But I've always loved DC more. To me, just Supes and Bats are bigger than any of the Avengers (not including Spider-man but he don't count cuz Sony).
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6:34PM on 02/12/2013
wow it's weird to see a year past 2020? Seems like the smart thing to do since there is no way they could have established all that in only 2 years & make them quality films like Marvel.
wow it's weird to see a year past 2020? Seems like the smart thing to do since there is no way they could have established all that in only 2 years & make them quality films like Marvel.
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6:29PM on 02/12/2013
I knew that beginning with a JL movie was a bad call. Its for the best they take their time.
I knew that beginning with a JL movie was a bad call. Its for the best they take their time.
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6:27PM on 02/12/2013

World's Finest

I saw this fan idea on another website so I can't claim credit for it, but it makes a lot of sense to me. Start with Man of Steel which is sure to be a hit, then as a sort of sequel to it, introduce Batman in a World's Finest movie. It would continue the Superman story started in Man of Steel while also introducing us to Batman without a need for yet another solo movie with the Caped Crusader. It'll seem like less of a gimmick, much like how people viewed the Amazing Spider-man which came out
I saw this fan idea on another website so I can't claim credit for it, but it makes a lot of sense to me. Start with Man of Steel which is sure to be a hit, then as a sort of sequel to it, introduce Batman in a World's Finest movie. It would continue the Superman story started in Man of Steel while also introducing us to Batman without a need for yet another solo movie with the Caped Crusader. It'll seem like less of a gimmick, much like how people viewed the Amazing Spider-man which came out so soon after Spider-man 3. Then with 3 of the major characters established (including Green Lantern, although that movie was terrible), they could go ahead with the Justice League. Makes sense to me.
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3:24AM on 02/13/2013
Meh. Needs Wonder Woman and The Flash. Wait a few years and also include Green Arrow.
Meh. Needs Wonder Woman and The Flash. Wait a few years and also include Green Arrow.
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5:56PM on 02/12/2013
Double post.
Double post.
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5:50PM on 02/12/2013
YES! This is the best possible option because it gives DC the time necessary to set up their cinematic universe. I'd rather have a great Justice League movie than a forced/rushed one.
YES! This is the best possible option because it gives DC the time necessary to set up their cinematic universe. I'd rather have a great Justice League movie than a forced/rushed one.
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5:44PM on 02/12/2013

Just a suggestion

Here's what I think and this is just me ... and I'm a nobody ... but here goes.
I think WB should go dark. They established that with Nolan's Batman and seems like they're doing it with Man of Steel. It's a perfect way to separate themselves from THE AVENGERS which went for a more relaxed comic tone of their movies.
I think they should do the Justice Leauge movie in 2018 which is when we'll probably get THE AVENGERS 3. Before that we can get a MAN OF STEEL sequel, a FLASH movie, a WONDER
Here's what I think and this is just me ... and I'm a nobody ... but here goes.
I think WB should go dark. They established that with Nolan's Batman and seems like they're doing it with Man of Steel. It's a perfect way to separate themselves from THE AVENGERS which went for a more relaxed comic tone of their movies.
I think they should do the Justice Leauge movie in 2018 which is when we'll probably get THE AVENGERS 3. Before that we can get a MAN OF STEEL sequel, a FLASH movie, a WONDER WOMAN movie and one GREEN LANTERN sequel. I would even get Ryan Reynolds back for the sequel since he is definitely capable of going dark (BURIED, SMOKING ACES) just do it better and with a different tone. I would leave BATMAN alone and reboot him after JL.
I think that would work perfectly: one superhero mash-up trilogy ends, another one begins. What do you guys think?
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5:52PM on 02/12/2013
I don't know about it going dark (WB already said that's their intent) but I agree with everything else you said. They should make Flash and Wonder Woman every two years leading up to Justice League.
I don't know about it going dark (WB already said that's their intent) but I agree with everything else you said. They should make Flash and Wonder Woman every two years leading up to Justice League.
5:30PM on 02/12/2013

Of course it's not happening.

Because they would lose a lot of money by rushing it.
It's worrying that they just realized it now. They were too hot on the heels of the Avengers. Now that it's been almost a year, I guess WB put their shit together and started making sense again. Damn ! that JLA script was so awful that it worked as an electroshock... Stand alone movies is the way to do it. And I have the feeling that Man of Steel is going to be huge.
Because they would lose a lot of money by rushing it.
It's worrying that they just realized it now. They were too hot on the heels of the Avengers. Now that it's been almost a year, I guess WB put their shit together and started making sense again. Damn ! that JLA script was so awful that it worked as an electroshock... Stand alone movies is the way to do it. And I have the feeling that Man of Steel is going to be huge.
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5:30PM on 02/12/2013

Panic much?

While the Mark Millar shit was too stupid to even take seriously, if they are this frightened of fanboy opinion then they likely aren't prepared to do the JL any... justice (I'm sorry). In 8 years you are likely to encounter a market that has been saturated with comic book properties, and in which Marvel has a prohibitive and imposing beachhead established. They will be Pixar and everyone else will be anyone that isn't Pixar. You are basically ceding the battle to them at this point.
While the Mark Millar shit was too stupid to even take seriously, if they are this frightened of fanboy opinion then they likely aren't prepared to do the JL any... justice (I'm sorry). In 8 years you are likely to encounter a market that has been saturated with comic book properties, and in which Marvel has a prohibitive and imposing beachhead established. They will be Pixar and everyone else will be anyone that isn't Pixar. You are basically ceding the battle to them at this point.
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5:25PM on 02/12/2013

i think Alex nailed it on the head....

Batman VS Superman is the best way to do it. anything else would look like its trying too hard to be "The Avengers" to the general audience. Plus, the clout that Batman and Superman have... they have more starpower to their names than all of the Avengers (or the rest of JLA) combined. who really needs flash and wonder woman at this point other than to sell more toys?
Batman VS Superman is the best way to do it. anything else would look like its trying too hard to be "The Avengers" to the general audience. Plus, the clout that Batman and Superman have... they have more starpower to their names than all of the Avengers (or the rest of JLA) combined. who really needs flash and wonder woman at this point other than to sell more toys?
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5:20PM on 02/12/2013

Take time to get it right

Looks like WB has wised up. Flash and Wonder Woman solo films need to happen - they're great comic characters and if done right could be great in the movies, too. Warners should make that Wonder Woman spec script the reviewers loved so much. Sure, it's set in WWII, but Diana doesn't age like a normal person and she could be in the JLA in modern times. Kinda like Captain America, but who cares? And a Flash movie would be even easier. Didn't David Goyer already write one that had some buzz
Looks like WB has wised up. Flash and Wonder Woman solo films need to happen - they're great comic characters and if done right could be great in the movies, too. Warners should make that Wonder Woman spec script the reviewers loved so much. Sure, it's set in WWII, but Diana doesn't age like a normal person and she could be in the JLA in modern times. Kinda like Captain America, but who cares? And a Flash movie would be even easier. Didn't David Goyer already write one that had some buzz surrounding it?
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5:20PM on 02/12/2013

justice league is fucked though...

if i was WB, i'd ask "how can we make an awesome and fun justice league movie, centered around character relationships.... without looking like we're ripping off the Avengers". i mean, even if justice league found a way to nail it, wouldn't it come off as an avengers clone to the unsuspecting general audience (and thus giving it another reason to be dismissed)? i guess they would have to go "dark and edgy" to distinguish it from the fun cartoony tone of the Avengers?
if i was WB, i'd ask "how can we make an awesome and fun justice league movie, centered around character relationships.... without looking like we're ripping off the Avengers". i mean, even if justice league found a way to nail it, wouldn't it come off as an avengers clone to the unsuspecting general audience (and thus giving it another reason to be dismissed)? i guess they would have to go "dark and edgy" to distinguish it from the fun cartoony tone of the Avengers?
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5:23PM on 02/12/2013
Yeah, ironic considering The Avengers comics were patterned after Justice League. But you're right, the average person doesn't know that and will see it as a rip-off.
Yeah, ironic considering The Avengers comics were patterned after Justice League. But you're right, the average person doesn't know that and will see it as a rip-off.
5:18PM on 02/12/2013
If they're gonna delay it that long than whats the point?
If they're gonna delay it that long than whats the point?
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5:16PM on 02/12/2013

i get it...

8 years between "batman and robin" and "batman begins". so.... 2013 + 8 years = 2021.
8 years between "batman and robin" and "batman begins". so.... 2013 + 8 years = 2021.
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5:24PM on 02/12/2013
Batman + Robin nearly sank the entire franchise. The Nolan trilogy obviously did not.
Batman + Robin nearly sank the entire franchise. The Nolan trilogy obviously did not.
5:26PM on 02/12/2013
yup. that's why if justice league were to come out now and fail (or if man of steel fails), it gives them the "proper" amount of time to successfully reboot.
yup. that's why if justice league were to come out now and fail (or if man of steel fails), it gives them the "proper" amount of time to successfully reboot.
5:06PM on 02/12/2013
First, who gives a crap what Miller thinks about anything? Second, I'm glad to hear WB wanting to hold off on rushing a Justice League movie that would most likely be garbage at this point. Plus, by 2021, I'm sure The Avengers will be on its third sequel (The Avengers 4). However, the main issue with WB is they're unable to market their heroes besides Batman. Man of Steel does look impressive, but that's just because they made Nolan the foundation. They need to take more risks and let younger
First, who gives a crap what Miller thinks about anything? Second, I'm glad to hear WB wanting to hold off on rushing a Justice League movie that would most likely be garbage at this point. Plus, by 2021, I'm sure The Avengers will be on its third sequel (The Avengers 4). However, the main issue with WB is they're unable to market their heroes besides Batman. Man of Steel does look impressive, but that's just because they made Nolan the foundation. They need to take more risks and let younger directors with an interest for the source material in order to make more successes instead of more duds.
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9:07PM on 02/12/2013
I agree completely. Where Marvel succeeded was in giving control to creative, unexpected filmmakers (with the exception of Joe Johnston) and letting them do their thing. Kenneth Brannagh on THOR for god's sake? Who saw that coming? But it all turned out very well. DC would be wise to follow a similar strategy. Given his interest in THE WOLVERINE I would love to see Darren Aronofsky's take on a DC superhero film.
I agree completely. Where Marvel succeeded was in giving control to creative, unexpected filmmakers (with the exception of Joe Johnston) and letting them do their thing. Kenneth Brannagh on THOR for god's sake? Who saw that coming? But it all turned out very well. DC would be wise to follow a similar strategy. Given his interest in THE WOLVERINE I would love to see Darren Aronofsky's take on a DC superhero film.
5:06PM on 02/12/2013

Seems like a better plan

I'd rather they go the Marvel route than try to do the Avengers thing in reverse. Build up your rebooted franchises with solo films and then bring them together. That's what made Avengers an event imho - the waiting and seeing just bits and pieces of each corner of the universe before it was all strung together.
I'd rather they go the Marvel route than try to do the Avengers thing in reverse. Build up your rebooted franchises with solo films and then bring them together. That's what made Avengers an event imho - the waiting and seeing just bits and pieces of each corner of the universe before it was all strung together.
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5:06PM on 02/12/2013

It is annoying to see that WB can't handle the DC characters the way they deserve it

They have big characters like Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman etc but they are doing NOTHING with them. Just take Wonder Woman! They had this great WWII script a few years back, but they didn't use it and then Marvel did a similar thing with Captain America and it became a success. They had Joss Whedon on the project but it fell apart and now he is directing Marvel movies...just so many missed chances.
Right now she has a critical acclaimed comic which also sells great, same for
They have big characters like Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman etc but they are doing NOTHING with them. Just take Wonder Woman! They had this great WWII script a few years back, but they didn't use it and then Marvel did a similar thing with Captain America and it became a success. They had Joss Whedon on the project but it fell apart and now he is directing Marvel movies...just so many missed chances.
Right now she has a critical acclaimed comic which also sells great, same for Aquaman, so there is so much potential, they just need to give it to the right people in Hollywood!
Batman is my favorite hero but Wonder Woman, Flash and Aquaman also deserve to have movies before he gets another reboot.
I don't want a Justice League movie yet, but this whole thing is frustrating...
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5:27PM on 02/12/2013
You and I are on the same page. They almost had Whedon do Batman before Nolan but litertally laughed him out of the room when he told them he wanted to make a dark origin story with no super villains. Then of course he wanted to make Wonder Woman later and got shot down. WB is run by morons who get lucky sometimes.
You and I are on the same page. They almost had Whedon do Batman before Nolan but litertally laughed him out of the room when he told them he wanted to make a dark origin story with no super villains. Then of course he wanted to make Wonder Woman later and got shot down. WB is run by morons who get lucky sometimes.
3:57AM on 02/13/2013
They also wanted to do a Superman movie at one point with Tim Burton starring Nicolas Cage and then there was the Jon Peters produced Superman which was supposed to have a giant spider and the Abrams Superman movie in which Lex Luthor was to be an alien and then there was Darren Aronofsky's Batman Year One in which Bruce Wayne was now a mechanic and Jarvis was black. So many bad ideas. But the idea of rebooting Batman after Batman and Robin had been floating around for a while. There was
They also wanted to do a Superman movie at one point with Tim Burton starring Nicolas Cage and then there was the Jon Peters produced Superman which was supposed to have a giant spider and the Abrams Superman movie in which Lex Luthor was to be an alien and then there was Darren Aronofsky's Batman Year One in which Bruce Wayne was now a mechanic and Jarvis was black. So many bad ideas. But the idea of rebooting Batman after Batman and Robin had been floating around for a while. There was supposed to be a movie Batman Triumphant after Batman and Robin and Scarecrow was to be the villain and then there was talk of a Superman versus Batman movie until finally Batman Begins came out.
4:52PM on 02/12/2013
I think its better that they don't rush into it and destroy the idea. I so much want to see a JLA movie. However, I'm tired of the dumping on the Green Lantern film. Sure, its not on the level of TDK, or from being "phenomenal".....but it doesn't "suck."
I think its better that they don't rush into it and destroy the idea. I so much want to see a JLA movie. However, I'm tired of the dumping on the Green Lantern film. Sure, its not on the level of TDK, or from being "phenomenal".....but it doesn't "suck."
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4:49PM on 02/12/2013
So, if they're worried about Justice League, wouldn't it make sense to make a World's Finest sometime before JL? So, let's say Man of Steel hits, they reboot Batman and maybe even World's Finest could be a sequel to both and work that up to a JL movie?
So, if they're worried about Justice League, wouldn't it make sense to make a World's Finest sometime before JL? So, let's say Man of Steel hits, they reboot Batman and maybe even World's Finest could be a sequel to both and work that up to a JL movie?
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4:48PM on 02/12/2013

PATIENCE

im down with this don't rush it get it right, there is so much expectations on this movie, but like bigger boat said come on dont be imcopetent
im down with this don't rush it get it right, there is so much expectations on this movie, but like bigger boat said come on dont be imcopetent
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4:36PM on 02/12/2013
How many levels of incompetence does it take to get this wrong?
How many levels of incompetence does it take to get this wrong?
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