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Sam Mendes says that Andrew Scott's C was the original villain of Spectre

12.01.2015

SPECTRE has come and (just about) gone from the cinematic consciousness, garnering some decent box office dollars and mixed reviews along the way. It's no secret that the film proved to be one of the most expensive endeavors in cinematic history, but perhaps that's more suggestive of how the story was shaped together. Spoilers for those who haven't seen the film, but Christoph Waltz turned out to be the new iteration of Blofeld, and in turn, surprised absolutely no one. However, this was not the case in the early draft of the script.

Sam Mendes on Andrew Scott being the main villain of SPECTRE:

There was a long period in the script, and this is months before we started, where it actually flipped and it turned out that he was the person who was running the show; the person that Bond had been looking for all along. Blofeld didn’t feature in that version of the story. It was a long time ago. But he was a very easy figure to find parallels for in the contemporary political world. And look, not all of them deserve death by Ralph Fiennes from a great height, so please don’t quote me as saying I’m all in favour of killing the head of MI5.

C embodies all the things I most dislike about the security services. The obsessive need for surveillance, the sharing of surveillance between international security organisations, the fact that they are immensely powerful, unelected and almost entirely unknown to us. And the fact that drone warfare is encouraged. M has a very good speech about this, I think, where he says, 'to kill a man you have to look him in the eye and the licence to kill is also a licence not to kill', and all the bugs, drones and surveillance in the world can’t make up for that…

Given the previous films featuring Blofeld, as well as the lampooning courtesy of AUSTIN POWERS, I felt that Mendes and Co. were in a good position to play with audience expectations regarding SPECTRE, Blofeld, and who was in control. I was disappointed to see that SPECTRE played out almost exactly how everyone thought it would, right down to Blofeld wearing a stupid jacket, wheeling around on a roller chair and playing with his pet cat. I'm not sure how much of a factor the head of SPECTRE may have been in this draft, but C almost seemed like an afterthought in the finished film. For fans of BBC's Sherlock, we know Andrew Scott is capable of so much more.

Would you have preferred Andrew Scott to be the main villain?

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3:30PM on 12/02/2015
The movie was merely OK, and I'd agree that hiding Blofeld's identity was largely pointless. That's especially true when you consider that half of the audience will have little to no memory of who Blofeld is to the Bond series. If you know who he is... you expected it. If you don't know who he is... it means nothing. It wasn't as egregious as Kahn since it wasn't played as quite as much of a twist, but still.

I do like that he's conspicuously... alive... at the end of the film. You could
The movie was merely OK, and I'd agree that hiding Blofeld's identity was largely pointless. That's especially true when you consider that half of the audience will have little to no memory of who Blofeld is to the Bond series. If you know who he is... you expected it. If you don't know who he is... it means nothing. It wasn't as egregious as Kahn since it wasn't played as quite as much of a twist, but still.

I do like that he's conspicuously... alive... at the end of the film. You could bring him back for a bigger badder return for Craig's last go at the role.
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8:56AM on 12/02/2015
I thought Spectre was great and I though Waltz was excellent in the film. I kinda like that C wasn't the MAIN villain in the film, that he was somewhat of a clueless tool with too much power. Resonates far more on real world things.
I thought Spectre was great and I though Waltz was excellent in the film. I kinda like that C wasn't the MAIN villain in the film, that he was somewhat of a clueless tool with too much power. Resonates far more on real world things.
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9:34AM on 12/02/2015
Yeh I thought the concept was good, although done before. The idea of a great threat in the world hense they need to ramp up security in the name of fear while eroding on the peoples freedoms definitely very current. Just a shame the film was poorly executed.
Yeh I thought the concept was good, although done before. The idea of a great threat in the world hense they need to ramp up security in the name of fear while eroding on the peoples freedoms definitely very current. Just a shame the film was poorly executed.
8:02AM on 12/02/2015
Why is it that these super intelligent villains never take out Bond when they have the chance. They always have to play a little game. Thats why the Bournes and Mission Impossibles work. Because there is a genuine threat and suspense to go with it.
Why is it that these super intelligent villains never take out Bond when they have the chance. They always have to play a little game. Thats why the Bournes and Mission Impossibles work. Because there is a genuine threat and suspense to go with it.
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3:06AM on 12/02/2015

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Blofeld's personal connection to Bond seemed pointless to me. No reason for that to be a factor at all. Waltz was as good as the role allowed him to be, but the handling of the villains was probably the film's biggest letdown.
Blofeld's personal connection to Bond seemed pointless to me. No reason for that to be a factor at all. Waltz was as good as the role allowed him to be, but the handling of the villains was probably the film's biggest letdown.
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11:39PM on 12/01/2015
The usage of Blofeld was handled poorly. The big revelation felt completely arbitrary. You have one off-the-cuff scene where Oberhauser mentions that he has changed his name to Ernst Stavro Blofeld (with zero reasons given as to why or how he came up with such a specific moniker), and then it's largely ignored for the rest of the movie. He could have just stayed Oberhauser and it wouldn't have changed the rest of the film one bit.

If you think about it, this was pretty much the same
The usage of Blofeld was handled poorly. The big revelation felt completely arbitrary. You have one off-the-cuff scene where Oberhauser mentions that he has changed his name to Ernst Stavro Blofeld (with zero reasons given as to why or how he came up with such a specific moniker), and then it's largely ignored for the rest of the movie. He could have just stayed Oberhauser and it wouldn't have changed the rest of the film one bit.

If you think about it, this was pretty much the same stupid plot device used in Star Trek Into Darkness: The villain turns out to be another more famous villain (for little reason).

As for C, yeah he was just kind of there. His presence felt like an excuse to include M more often in the film, and ultimately he didn't amount to much. Should he have been the main villain? Meh, not so much. For a film titled SPECTRE, I'd rather see more of the global organization we were promised as opposed to consolidating the villainy to just one (or two) characters.
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6:42PM on 12/01/2015
I'm happy it ended up the way it did. Why cast Christoph Waltz as Bond's greatest foe only for it to be a cheap plot twist? I think blockbusters are all trying to be too clever nowadays. Not every villain needs a Keyzer Soze plot twist.
I'm happy it ended up the way it did. Why cast Christoph Waltz as Bond's greatest foe only for it to be a cheap plot twist? I think blockbusters are all trying to be too clever nowadays. Not every villain needs a Keyzer Soze plot twist.
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5:54PM on 12/01/2015
Now that I'm thinking, wouldn't had it been better if they had made us believe that Christoph Waltz would turn out to be Blofeld, but in the end, they reveal Andrew Scott is actually Blofeld!?

I would have liked that. You know, to be surprised.
Now that I'm thinking, wouldn't had it been better if they had made us believe that Christoph Waltz would turn out to be Blofeld, but in the end, they reveal Andrew Scott is actually Blofeld!?

I would have liked that. You know, to be surprised.
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7:56PM on 12/01/2015
Wouldn't that be a retread of Andrew Scott's Moriarty in Sherlock?
Wouldn't that be a retread of Andrew Scott's Moriarty in Sherlock?
7:56AM on 12/02/2015
Or Iron Man 3's the mandarin twist.
Or Iron Man 3's the mandarin twist.
3:03PM on 12/01/2015
I really enjoyed Spectre for the most part, but it definitely had some narrative issues, and the handling of C was one of them. He was just kind of... there. It's too bad, cause I really agree with everything Sam Mendes is saying up there, and think he could have been a great villain, especially with Blofeld not doing much of anything.

They could have had a Rosa Klebb scenario, where Blofeld is introduced but not really the film's primary villain, and then had Waltz be the major villain of
I really enjoyed Spectre for the most part, but it definitely had some narrative issues, and the handling of C was one of them. He was just kind of... there. It's too bad, cause I really agree with everything Sam Mendes is saying up there, and think he could have been a great villain, especially with Blofeld not doing much of anything.

They could have had a Rosa Klebb scenario, where Blofeld is introduced but not really the film's primary villain, and then had Waltz be the major villain of the next Bond film. Or just cut C out and focus more on Blofeld. I dunno. It could have been handled better, either way. Didn't ruin the movie for me though (I thought it was a solid 7/10).
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3:03PM on 12/01/2015
The more I think back on it, I like the film less and less. Personally, Bond fighting redundancy would have been a better film than what we got. Man, that exploding base near the end just really, really bugs the hell out of me.
The more I think back on it, I like the film less and less. Personally, Bond fighting redundancy would have been a better film than what we got. Man, that exploding base near the end just really, really bugs the hell out of me.
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2:55PM on 12/01/2015

Could've been a good move

I'm sure this is what irked Sony and Eon. Something fresh and not rehashed. No wonder the movie was borderline garbage and Craig was legit bored in each and every scene. Bond needs a break. A long cinematic break before new studio dumps more generic crap onto our lives.
Or perhaps Eon can ask Campbell to return for a last Craig starrer feature.
I'm sure this is what irked Sony and Eon. Something fresh and not rehashed. No wonder the movie was borderline garbage and Craig was legit bored in each and every scene. Bond needs a break. A long cinematic break before new studio dumps more generic crap onto our lives.
Or perhaps Eon can ask Campbell to return for a last Craig starrer feature.
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11:40PM on 12/01/2015
Having C revealed as the villain wouldn't have been fresh or original at all. They pulled this trick a hundred times in the last decade, whether it was Aldrich Killian behind The Mandarin in Iron Man 3 or Talia behind Bane in Dark Knight Rises. If anything, just keeping the inspired casting of Waltz as Blofeld was cleaner and less repetitive as the "main villain switcharoo" they've been doing non stop.
Having C revealed as the villain wouldn't have been fresh or original at all. They pulled this trick a hundred times in the last decade, whether it was Aldrich Killian behind The Mandarin in Iron Man 3 or Talia behind Bane in Dark Knight Rises. If anything, just keeping the inspired casting of Waltz as Blofeld was cleaner and less repetitive as the "main villain switcharoo" they've been doing non stop.
9:36AM on 12/02/2015
You mean like the whole 'he planned to get caught routine' in skyfall also like the Dark Knight. Yawn!
You mean like the whole 'he planned to get caught routine' in skyfall also like the Dark Knight. Yawn!
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1:48PM on 12/01/2015
So the movie would've been mostly about stopping the person trying to dismantle the spy organization? That worked in MISSION IMPOSSIBLE 5, but 007 is a different type of franchise. Even at its darkest moment, it's always been about BOND stopping an international threat.
So the movie would've been mostly about stopping the person trying to dismantle the spy organization? That worked in MISSION IMPOSSIBLE 5, but 007 is a different type of franchise. Even at its darkest moment, it's always been about BOND stopping an international threat.
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1:41PM on 12/01/2015
So So bland and the Joblo members voted Daniel Craig best Bond when he has had probably what is considered two decent films out of the 4 he has made. I thought some of the scenes were borderline ridiculous. Example. Bond escaping the facility and just walks out while taking out 7 or 8 guards like he was the Terminator. Didn't add any suspense what so ever.
So So bland and the Joblo members voted Daniel Craig best Bond when he has had probably what is considered two decent films out of the 4 he has made. I thought some of the scenes were borderline ridiculous. Example. Bond escaping the facility and just walks out while taking out 7 or 8 guards like he was the Terminator. Didn't add any suspense what so ever.
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12:44PM on 12/01/2015
Opening action scene and Christoph Waltz's performance are the only good things in this disappointing film
Opening action scene and Christoph Waltz's performance are the only good things in this disappointing film
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11:49AM on 12/01/2015
Now the twist in this and the denying actually bothered me since it was so obvious from the very beginning. And the film didn't really give Waltz's character anything to do that was memorable which I what I was really looking forward to in this new entry.
Now the twist in this and the denying actually bothered me since it was so obvious from the very beginning. And the film didn't really give Waltz's character anything to do that was memorable which I what I was really looking forward to in this new entry.
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3:05PM on 12/01/2015
But the twist didn't amount to any emotional payoff regardless, so I don't know why it was forced in.
But the twist didn't amount to any emotional payoff regardless, so I don't know why it was forced in.
11:24AM on 12/01/2015

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Actually, I think the big miss was not letting Blofeld escape on the helicopter. Would have been a much better ending had the last bullet missed, and they could have even left unchanged Craig's will he won't he return ending.
Actually, I think the big miss was not letting Blofeld escape on the helicopter. Would have been a much better ending had the last bullet missed, and they could have even left unchanged Craig's will he won't he return ending.
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11:11AM on 12/01/2015
Nope. He's an interesting character but not enough to be a Bond villain. Had the attention been shifted to C instead of Blofeld, he might have worked but in the movie he's more like a red herring to conceal the real identity of Christoph Waltz's character.
Nope. He's an interesting character but not enough to be a Bond villain. Had the attention been shifted to C instead of Blofeld, he might have worked but in the movie he's more like a red herring to conceal the real identity of Christoph Waltz's character.
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