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Scott Derrickson's Doctor Strange movie might not be an origin story

Aug. 18, 2014by: Jesse Giroux

Many expected Marvel to make a big announcement involving DOCTOR STRANGE at this year's SDCC, but unfortunately it just didn't happen. In fact, besides casting rumors like this one, there hasn't been a lot of news about the project since it was announced Scott Derrickson will be directing the film from a script by Jon Spaihts.

Devin Faraci from Badass Digest recently appeared on Meet the Movie Press, and he says Spaihts' script is quite different compared to the DOCTOR STRANGE script Joshua Oppenheimer wrote back in 2010. According to Faraci, Derrickson's movie won't feature an origin story for the good doctor.

So, for Dr. Strange they've had a script in-house forever. It is a pretty standard origin story for Doctor Strange. It's got Baron Mordo as the bad guy. That's all gone. Marvel's new thing is no more origin stories. So, Dr. Strange movie no longer has an origin. It begins in medias res. It's got Dr. Strange already established as the Sorcerer Supreme, and it is a totally new script. Jon Spaihts is working totally new, on his own, without any of the previous stuff. Not even touching the previous script.

If true, there will probably be a few flashback scenes involving how Doctor Strange got his powers, but Marvel's upcoming film won't be a straight-up origins movie like say CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER or BATMAN BEGINS. Are you glad we might not be getting yet another superhero origin story in DOCTOR STRANGE, or are you disappointed Scott Derrickson's movie won't explore how he became the Sorcerer Supreme?

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12:39PM on 08/20/2014
Keep in mind that while Dr. Strange is not the most well-known character and could benefit from an origin story, his origin is a bit drawn out. Basically, in the comics he's an arrogant and gifted surgeon who loses the use of his hands in an accident, then goes to the Himalayas as a last resort to get them back. Then there's the matter of introducing the Ancient One and Baron Mordo and him studying magic and having to overcome his former personality. Having to go through all that would mean we
Keep in mind that while Dr. Strange is not the most well-known character and could benefit from an origin story, his origin is a bit drawn out. Basically, in the comics he's an arrogant and gifted surgeon who loses the use of his hands in an accident, then goes to the Himalayas as a last resort to get them back. Then there's the matter of introducing the Ancient One and Baron Mordo and him studying magic and having to overcome his former personality. Having to go through all that would mean we probably wouldn't see the Sorceror Supreme until the end if the film. If they establish that he is already the Sorceror Supreme when the film starts, then they can explain his origin via flashbacks, explanation, or they can do it with a 5-minute bit at the beginning of the film, like they did with Hellboy. I believe the film would be much cooler if they just had him start off as Dr. Strange from the get-go.
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4:30PM on 08/18/2014
My name is Stephen Strange...and I'm not a doctor but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. :)
My name is Stephen Strange...and I'm not a doctor but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. :)
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3:28PM on 08/18/2014
Honestly that kinda sucks. His origin is one of the better ones. But I can understand not wanting to spend too much time on his training in the Himalayas.
Honestly that kinda sucks. His origin is one of the better ones. But I can understand not wanting to spend too much time on his training in the Himalayas.
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3:21PM on 08/18/2014
Not saying I wouldn't love to see his origin on screen. But unlike Cathelotte I have the feeling it would work great, and be a fresh take, to show him solving mysteries first. And then later, go back and tell his rise to power. Magic power..
Not saying I wouldn't love to see his origin on screen. But unlike Cathelotte I have the feeling it would work great, and be a fresh take, to show him solving mysteries first. And then later, go back and tell his rise to power. Magic power..
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3:17PM on 08/18/2014

SMART

This is the kind of character and setting where would be awesome to just be dropped down right in the middle of one of his adventures.
This is the kind of character and setting where would be awesome to just be dropped down right in the middle of one of his adventures.
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2:39PM on 08/18/2014

STUPID

This IS the kind of comics character that actually NEEDED an origin story for it's first film...
Especially for an unknown (for the average moviegoers) character.
Well... So far the MCU is almost defect free, so... Who knows ?!
This IS the kind of comics character that actually NEEDED an origin story for it's first film...
Especially for an unknown (for the average moviegoers) character.
Well... So far the MCU is almost defect free, so... Who knows ?!
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1:55PM on 08/18/2014

These are the types of comic characters...

that actually NEED origin stories. Dr. Strange isn't a name most random people really know. Origins are stupid when they're done over and over for the same character. I don't think it's a huge deal though. I mean, if you can brush over all of his "ability learning" in a couple scenes and a montage in the first act, I'd be fine with it, and can't imagine most people would be too upset.
that actually NEED origin stories. Dr. Strange isn't a name most random people really know. Origins are stupid when they're done over and over for the same character. I don't think it's a huge deal though. I mean, if you can brush over all of his "ability learning" in a couple scenes and a montage in the first act, I'd be fine with it, and can't imagine most people would be too upset.
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1:09PM on 08/18/2014
I love origin stories myself as long as it's one I haven't seen before like Spider-Man, Batman, Superman. This is the first time we would have seen his on screen, so I was down for it. Oh well. IT's not that big a deal I guess.
I love origin stories myself as long as it's one I haven't seen before like Spider-Man, Batman, Superman. This is the first time we would have seen his on screen, so I was down for it. Oh well. IT's not that big a deal I guess.
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12:12PM on 08/18/2014
Yesssssss. Thank God. I don't know why super-heroes always have to have an origin story. Other characters don't feel the need. We didn't see John McClane learn how to fire his first gun or take time out of the first episode to show Sherlock solving his first crime.

A character can just be the character. It's fine, really. GoTG did a good job with that.
Yesssssss. Thank God. I don't know why super-heroes always have to have an origin story. Other characters don't feel the need. We didn't see John McClane learn how to fire his first gun or take time out of the first episode to show Sherlock solving his first crime.

A character can just be the character. It's fine, really. GoTG did a good job with that.
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1:11PM on 08/18/2014
while I agree with you that it shouldn't be necessary to have an origin story, the reasoning doesn't quite equate to the John McClane comparison. We all understand cops, and that he is a normal guy simply thrown in an extraordinary situation. super heroes are more fantastical, and need some sort of background for the audience to understand that unusual history. That being said, an origin story is more of a creative crutch than a necessity to communicate that.
while I agree with you that it shouldn't be necessary to have an origin story, the reasoning doesn't quite equate to the John McClane comparison. We all understand cops, and that he is a normal guy simply thrown in an extraordinary situation. super heroes are more fantastical, and need some sort of background for the audience to understand that unusual history. That being said, an origin story is more of a creative crutch than a necessity to communicate that.
2:42PM on 08/18/2014
Sherlock: although NOT from Doyle's writings, YOUNG SHERLOCK HOLMES is a great movie...
More seriously GotG actually WAS an origin story, IMO !
Sherlock: although NOT from Doyle's writings, YOUNG SHERLOCK HOLMES is a great movie...
More seriously GotG actually WAS an origin story, IMO !
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11:57AM on 08/18/2014
I've been tired of origin stories for a long time now. There are plenty of ways to introduce a character without having to see how he became who he is.
I've been tired of origin stories for a long time now. There are plenty of ways to introduce a character without having to see how he became who he is.
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11:54AM on 08/18/2014

This is going into a better direction

Origin stories are starting to get boring and repetitive. Having him already in status and doing his thing will be for the best. And of course flashbacks and stuff to explain some things can work well.

For a good origin story movie of dr strange, watch his recent animated movie. Its pretty good too
Origin stories are starting to get boring and repetitive. Having him already in status and doing his thing will be for the best. And of course flashbacks and stuff to explain some things can work well.

For a good origin story movie of dr strange, watch his recent animated movie. Its pretty good too
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11:54AM on 08/18/2014
I could honestly care less about this movie. I've never been a huge fan of Dr. Strange. His character always worked better in the comics when he's called in by The Avengers at the 11th hour to help out with some crazy strategy to defeat the villain. Of all the movies coming out over the next 2 - 3 years, this one is at the bottom of my list.
I could honestly care less about this movie. I've never been a huge fan of Dr. Strange. His character always worked better in the comics when he's called in by The Avengers at the 11th hour to help out with some crazy strategy to defeat the villain. Of all the movies coming out over the next 2 - 3 years, this one is at the bottom of my list.
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11:37AM on 08/18/2014
I've said this in a podcast that I do, that Marvel should do all the origin stories for each of their characters in half hour shorts on Netflix. Call the series Marvel Origins: [insert character name]. This way the movies can focus on the story (like they're doing with Dr. Strange), and when the dvd comes out they can package the short with the movie.
I've said this in a podcast that I do, that Marvel should do all the origin stories for each of their characters in half hour shorts on Netflix. Call the series Marvel Origins: [insert character name]. This way the movies can focus on the story (like they're doing with Dr. Strange), and when the dvd comes out they can package the short with the movie.
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11:32AM on 08/18/2014

This is ideal

Recluse is correct. It worked for Indy. It also worked for Tim Burton's Batman. We see Batman within the first 5 mins of the movie. Dr. Strange's origin is a slow and long story. Though it can be told in flashback and in backstory. To wait til the end of the 2nd act to see Dr. Strange would be a bore.
Recluse is correct. It worked for Indy. It also worked for Tim Burton's Batman. We see Batman within the first 5 mins of the movie. Dr. Strange's origin is a slow and long story. Though it can be told in flashback and in backstory. To wait til the end of the 2nd act to see Dr. Strange would be a bore.
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11:31AM on 08/18/2014
I'm a stranger to strange, but I'm glad there may not be an origin story. Maybe his is unique, but the formula for origin movies is
I'm a stranger to strange, but I'm glad there may not be an origin story. Maybe his is unique, but the formula for origin movies is
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10:38AM on 08/18/2014
Even though I love a great origins film, it's not like already having him established is a bad thing. The film could just use flashbacks like Man of Steel to catch the audience up on his story to the present and since he's already established, he could join the Avengers that must faster.

And it would explain the Joaquin Phoenix casting (since he's a little older to start his own franchise). I mean, it worked for Guardians of the Galaxy, in that we knew some details of each character that
Even though I love a great origins film, it's not like already having him established is a bad thing. The film could just use flashbacks like Man of Steel to catch the audience up on his story to the present and since he's already established, he could join the Avengers that must faster.

And it would explain the Joaquin Phoenix casting (since he's a little older to start his own franchise). I mean, it worked for Guardians of the Galaxy, in that we knew some details of each character that made them complex, sympathetic, and relatable, but it's not like we really got a full blown origins from each character either.
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10:54AM on 08/18/2014
Please don't mention that shitty man of steel movie in the presence of Marvel greatness. Man of Shit is up there with Fantastic Four levels of horrible film making.
Please don't mention that shitty man of steel movie in the presence of Marvel greatness. Man of Shit is up there with Fantastic Four levels of horrible film making.
11:38AM on 08/18/2014
Agree to disagree, I guess.
Agree to disagree, I guess.
11:48AM on 08/18/2014
So conflicted. Don't care for origin films anymore bc it's such an easy, copied formula. But MoS=FF? No way man.

How many Americans u think read comics, fairly consistently - like 2-3 trades a year at least? Past the age of 12. 20%? 30%? Idk. Maybe 12%. Whatever it is, I'm in it. Now out of that group, I'd say I'm in the 40-60% range of knowledge for DC and Marvel stuff - mainly Earth based (there's so many universes and galaxies and timelines and one shots and green lanterns, and
So conflicted. Don't care for origin films anymore bc it's such an easy, copied formula. But MoS=FF? No way man.

How many Americans u think read comics, fairly consistently - like 2-3 trades a year at least? Past the age of 12. 20%? 30%? Idk. Maybe 12%. Whatever it is, I'm in it. Now out of that group, I'd say I'm in the 40-60% range of knowledge for DC and Marvel stuff - mainly Earth based (there's so many universes and galaxies and timelines and one shots and green lanterns, and lanterns in general, and Batmen, and mr/mrs marvel, all those changes, then bringing characters back from the dead - to be at 100%, you'd have to have no life). My point is, I read comics. I know a bit about them. I believe I'm on the above level for Superman. I really loved MoS. Ok, I'll give you that there should have been some more shots of him saving humans, but that can be said about every superhero film. Every film's heroes kill ppl by collateral damage, and rarely even mention it unless Uncle Ben. But I feel like I know Supes pretty well, and I thought MoS was a good representation of his origin, and they have the ability to really round his character out in the sequel. Besides, all heroes kill aliens and stuff, just not humans. Regardless of all that, even if it was called Strength Man, MoS is a much better acted, directed, and overall crafted film than the FF films
11:54AM on 08/18/2014
And Marvel is batting above .500 for sure, which is unique in itself. But "greatness?" In truth, neither Thor film was good, but ESPECIALLY the 2nd (I mean almost same plot). Iron Man 2 had no script. So many complained ab IM3 (tho I enjoyed it). I didn't like Cap 1, but I give it respect for what it's going for. And Avengers is waaaaaay overrated. Not bad, but overrated. So I can't say Marvel has only done "greatness."


Masterdebator, you've made me sort of stick up for soloist, and I
And Marvel is batting above .500 for sure, which is unique in itself. But "greatness?" In truth, neither Thor film was good, but ESPECIALLY the 2nd (I mean almost same plot). Iron Man 2 had no script. So many complained ab IM3 (tho I enjoyed it). I didn't like Cap 1, but I give it respect for what it's going for. And Avengers is waaaaaay overrated. Not bad, but overrated. So I can't say Marvel has only done "greatness."


Masterdebator, you've made me sort of stick up for soloist, and I don't appreciate that at all
10:35AM on 08/18/2014
Well that's STRANGE!
Well that's STRANGE!
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9:49AM on 08/18/2014
Title sequence origins cliff notes!
Title sequence origins cliff notes!
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9:37AM on 08/18/2014
The thing about not having a proper origin story set up is that we will have to contend with the generic plotting of having a POV character meeting the (other) good Doctor for the very first time. Case examples: Agent Myers from the first Hellboy movie, every Doctor Who companion, Sophie from Howl's Moving Castle, Jay Baruchel on that Sorcerer's Apprentice movie...
The thing about not having a proper origin story set up is that we will have to contend with the generic plotting of having a POV character meeting the (other) good Doctor for the very first time. Case examples: Agent Myers from the first Hellboy movie, every Doctor Who companion, Sophie from Howl's Moving Castle, Jay Baruchel on that Sorcerer's Apprentice movie...
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9:43AM on 08/18/2014
Or like Indiana Jones and you can just throw people into the story and hope they can keep up. Marvel films aren't that complicated anyway
Or like Indiana Jones and you can just throw people into the story and hope they can keep up. Marvel films aren't that complicated anyway
8:58PM on 08/18/2014
But Indiana Jones had the advantage of being a kind of tribute to old Republic Pictures adventure movies, so the familiarity is there. There's some degree of familiarity with GoTG as well, with Firefly and older classic space adventure films paving the way. Doctor Strange is a wild and trippy character that is probably the most non-mainstream character that a mainstream comic book universe could have. The origin should be put in there at some capacity. Also, by making him already all powerful
But Indiana Jones had the advantage of being a kind of tribute to old Republic Pictures adventure movies, so the familiarity is there. There's some degree of familiarity with GoTG as well, with Firefly and older classic space adventure films paving the way. Doctor Strange is a wild and trippy character that is probably the most non-mainstream character that a mainstream comic book universe could have. The origin should be put in there at some capacity. Also, by making him already all powerful at the beginning of the movie we usually need another character for the audience to relate to. Let's just see if Scott Derrickson can break the mold and deliver something surprising.
9:35AM on 08/18/2014

It worked for Indy.

People always seem to forget that.
People always seem to forget that.
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9:25AM on 08/18/2014

People do NOT care about origin stories.

I like how Marvel is once again stepping up its game. I am sure they will throw us some flashbacks much like Burtons Batman, but seeing the Doctor as all powerful and not having to waste time will be great.

It also makes sense because in Captain America 2 when they mention Strange as already being a target. Why would he be a target if he didn't already have his powers.
I like how Marvel is once again stepping up its game. I am sure they will throw us some flashbacks much like Burtons Batman, but seeing the Doctor as all powerful and not having to waste time will be great.

It also makes sense because in Captain America 2 when they mention Strange as already being a target. Why would he be a target if he didn't already have his powers.
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9:19AM on 08/18/2014

FYI who the F*** is "Devin Faraci from Badass Digest" anyway

...perhaps he's a source to be trusted, but just dropping a name and publication in there like that without any reason to believe him is a bit misleading. It's not like you said "according to Kevin Feige from Marvel Studios"...
...perhaps he's a source to be trusted, but just dropping a name and publication in there like that without any reason to believe him is a bit misleading. It's not like you said "according to Kevin Feige from Marvel Studios"...
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9:28AM on 08/18/2014
He has a track record of reporting Marvel scoops that ended up being correct, so he must have inside information.
He has a track record of reporting Marvel scoops that ended up being correct, so he must have inside information.
9:47AM on 08/18/2014
He also stated, the that same episode, that he has connections within Marvel and has seen a full version of the Avengers: Age of Ultron script. If this guy says something about an upcoming Marvel film, its very likely correct
He also stated, the that same episode, that he has connections within Marvel and has seen a full version of the Avengers: Age of Ultron script. If this guy says something about an upcoming Marvel film, its very likely correct
9:13AM on 08/18/2014

Fine by me

Considering the world that Stephen Strange inhabits I think an air of mystery would work very well. Implied and ambiguous references to his past could be played out as the character developes into a more prominent part of the Avengers universe.
Considering the world that Stephen Strange inhabits I think an air of mystery would work very well. Implied and ambiguous references to his past could be played out as the character developes into a more prominent part of the Avengers universe.
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9:05AM on 08/18/2014
I always liked the fact that Batman was already Batman in Burton's movie...and I really liked the flashback method of explaining the origin of Superman in Man of Steel...even though he wasn't actually Superman from the off. That said, I'm not too sure throwing people not familiar with Doctor Strange in to his world without an explanation of his origin will work and I don't think Marvel will do that. Whilst it may not be an origin story in the way the very enjoyable animated Doctor Strange
I always liked the fact that Batman was already Batman in Burton's movie...and I really liked the flashback method of explaining the origin of Superman in Man of Steel...even though he wasn't actually Superman from the off. That said, I'm not too sure throwing people not familiar with Doctor Strange in to his world without an explanation of his origin will work and I don't think Marvel will do that. Whilst it may not be an origin story in the way the very enjoyable animated Doctor Strange effort was, I'm sure they'll do something - I mean how do you get in to a movie like this without explaining WTF is going on...especially when you've already established the universe he exists in...and fiery head demons and sorcery stuff have yet to be shown.
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9:02AM on 08/18/2014
might not be a direct origin story. but one that is told through a series of flashbacks.
might not be a direct origin story. but one that is told through a series of flashbacks.
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8:55AM on 08/18/2014

DISAPPOINTED

Origin stories for Batman and Superman and Spiderman are a dime a dozen. This is the FIRST time that general audiences will see the good Doctor, and I say he deserves to have his origin story told!
BOOOOOOOOOOOO on Marvel if this is true! Idiotic move!

And lest we forget, they are openly going to introduce the concept of a human being wielding MAGIC for the first time. You think the audience isn't gonna notice that or want the concept introduced?
Origin stories for Batman and Superman and Spiderman are a dime a dozen. This is the FIRST time that general audiences will see the good Doctor, and I say he deserves to have his origin story told!
BOOOOOOOOOOOO on Marvel if this is true! Idiotic move!

And lest we forget, they are openly going to introduce the concept of a human being wielding MAGIC for the first time. You think the audience isn't gonna notice that or want the concept introduced?
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9:42AM on 08/18/2014
There are other ways to introduce the character and concepts than step-by-step easing the audience into it. Almost no other movie does this but superhero movies, and I don't think they are so special that it's the only way.
There are other ways to introduce the character and concepts than step-by-step easing the audience into it. Almost no other movie does this but superhero movies, and I don't think they are so special that it's the only way.
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8:43AM on 08/18/2014
I just think it's funny that we get origin stories for popular heroes like Spider-Man and superman more than once in a decade, but for doctor strange who many people don't know, they choose to skip it.
I just think it's funny that we get origin stories for popular heroes like Spider-Man and superman more than once in a decade, but for doctor strange who many people don't know, they choose to skip it.
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8:31AM on 08/18/2014
Some characters kinda need an origin story - I'm not sure Doctor Strange would massively benefit from being over-explained. If they choose to explain who he was and what led him to the magical arts it's not a problem, but it's not really essential. Do we need a training montage of him reading ancient books? Probably not.
I'll be most interested to see if they justify his abilities in the same way as Scarlet Witch's - will Avengers Age Of Ultron portray her as "magical" per se or just accessing
Some characters kinda need an origin story - I'm not sure Doctor Strange would massively benefit from being over-explained. If they choose to explain who he was and what led him to the magical arts it's not a problem, but it's not really essential. Do we need a training montage of him reading ancient books? Probably not.
I'll be most interested to see if they justify his abilities in the same way as Scarlet Witch's - will Avengers Age Of Ultron portray her as "magical" per se or just accessing "energy from another dimension" or somesuch.
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8:24AM on 08/18/2014
Yeah. Just cut to the chase. There's no need for an entire Act dedicated to our hero's origin. I think this will work.
Yeah. Just cut to the chase. There's no need for an entire Act dedicated to our hero's origin. I think this will work.
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8:21AM on 08/18/2014
I would like this. I wish more comic movies would do something like this. I highly doubt the new company line is no more origin stories though.
I would like this. I wish more comic movies would do something like this. I highly doubt the new company line is no more origin stories though.
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