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Serious negotiations have begun as Peter Jackson moves forward with turning The Hobbit into a trilogy

Jul. 25, 2012by: George Merchan

So a couple of weeks ago during Comic-Con, we got word that Peter Jackson's two-film adaptation of THE HOBBIT could possibly be turned into a trilogy, creating a whole new third film that would presumably bridge in even grander fashion into Jackson's LORD OF THE RINGS. While the idea is obviously an exciting one for fans, I don't think many of us gave the news much credence as it came across as more idle talk than anything else.

But according to THR, it looks like this is a much more real thing than we thought! Sources close to the production are reporting that Jackson definitely wants to turn the series into a trilogy and that he and Warner Bros, along with writer-producers Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens, are now exploring the logistics of what it would take to make a third film. Talks are said to have ramped up in recent days, with WB on board if the right financial arrangements can be agreed upon (which includes securing new deals with the films' large cast as well as locking down certain rights associated with the property).

"'If we're going to do it, we have to make a decision soon,' says a source close to the production. 'It's strongly driven by the filmmakers' desire to tell more of the story."

Assuming THE HOBBIT films turn out to be as lovely as THE LORD OF THE RINGS, I would absolutely relish the chance to be re-immersed in Jackson's Middle-Earth for three long films. If this happens, it would likely become the definitive fantasy saga of our lifetimes. I'm down for that. What say you?
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10:23AM on 07/26/2012

Can't wait!

This isn't just a money grab. This is a chance for us all to enjoy as much of Tolkien's world as they will let us have. I for one am sure it will be well made and not just filler released to steal my [link]
This is an awesome chance for Peter Jackson to share with us parts of the lore most of us would have never otherwise know about
This isn't just a money grab. This is a chance for us all to enjoy as much of Tolkien's world as they will let us have. I for one am sure it will be well made and not just filler released to steal my [link]
This is an awesome chance for Peter Jackson to share with us parts of the lore most of us would have never otherwise know about
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11:53PM on 07/25/2012

THERE ARE VOLUMES OF SOURCE MATERIAL

I used to sell books as a side for extra $$$. When the LOTR trilogy came out, they sold like mad. Upon searching for books to sell I would come across several adjunct Tolkien titles listed below..
History of Middle-Earth
1. The Book of Lost Tales (1983)
2. The Book of Lost Tales, Part Two (1984)
3. The Lays of Beleriand (1985)
4. The Shaping of Middle-Earth (1987)
5. The Lost Road and Other Writings (1987)
The History of The Lord of the Rings
1. The Return of the Shadow (1988)
2.
I used to sell books as a side for extra $$$. When the LOTR trilogy came out, they sold like mad. Upon searching for books to sell I would come across several adjunct Tolkien titles listed below..
History of Middle-Earth
1. The Book of Lost Tales (1983)
2. The Book of Lost Tales, Part Two (1984)
3. The Lays of Beleriand (1985)
4. The Shaping of Middle-Earth (1987)
5. The Lost Road and Other Writings (1987)
The History of The Lord of the Rings
1. The Return of the Shadow (1988)
2. The Treason of Isengard (1989)
3. The War of the Ring (1990)
4. Sauron Defeated (1992)
Later Silmarillion
1. Morgoth's Ring: The Legends of Aman (1993)
2. The War of the Jewels: The Legends of Beleriand (1994)
The Children of Hurin (2007)
Any and all of these books could be used to shape or tell not just another movie but probably another several movies if the material is given the right treatment. There is enough material to do an Elven Trilogy all on it's own if they wanted to, So, another movie? I wouldn't be surprised if a whole franchise of movres cropped up from all this material. This is where George Lucas is totally missing the boat. There are literally hundreds of great Star Wars based books out there that would make great movies in this universe. We can dream can't we?
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3:11AM on 07/26/2012
I would love nothing more than to see an adaptation of THE SILMARILLION one day, but Warner Bros. and MGM only have the rights to make films out of THE LORD OF THE RINGS and THE HOBBIT (including the material contained in the Appendices at the end of the latter). The Tolkien Estate owns all the other rights and, according to Jackson, they pretty much despise his films and aren't going to part with their rights any time soon.
I would love nothing more than to see an adaptation of THE SILMARILLION one day, but Warner Bros. and MGM only have the rights to make films out of THE LORD OF THE RINGS and THE HOBBIT (including the material contained in the Appendices at the end of the latter). The Tolkien Estate owns all the other rights and, according to Jackson, they pretty much despise his films and aren't going to part with their rights any time soon.
6:56AM on 07/26/2012
All those books aren't extra source material. They are DRAFTS of writings pre-LOTR and pre-Silmarillion. They don't flesh out the story, because they are just superceded information. For example, "Strider" was originally a HOBBIT. Which is all fine and interesting to read (in The Return of the Shadow), but ultimately that was changed to make him a MAN. This doesn't add any material that will make the story deeper at all.
All those books aren't extra source material. They are DRAFTS of writings pre-LOTR and pre-Silmarillion. They don't flesh out the story, because they are just superceded information. For example, "Strider" was originally a HOBBIT. Which is all fine and interesting to read (in The Return of the Shadow), but ultimately that was changed to make him a MAN. This doesn't add any material that will make the story deeper at all.
11:21PM on 07/25/2012
The Hobbit is not a particularly complicated book and it's much shorter than any of the 3 Lord of the Rings books. It they weren't adding a bunch of extra stuff, I'd be hard pressed to understand why they'd need two movies to tell this story in the first place, but now three? Is this how every major book adaptation is going to go now? What is he planing on adding Tom Bombadil to the movies now? Seriously, this just feels like over indulgence.
The Hobbit is not a particularly complicated book and it's much shorter than any of the 3 Lord of the Rings books. It they weren't adding a bunch of extra stuff, I'd be hard pressed to understand why they'd need two movies to tell this story in the first place, but now three? Is this how every major book adaptation is going to go now? What is he planing on adding Tom Bombadil to the movies now? Seriously, this just feels like over indulgence.
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8:20PM on 07/25/2012

DO IT

This is my most anticipated film of the year as the sequel will be and i would love to say that for a third so long as everyone is on board.
This is my most anticipated film of the year as the sequel will be and i would love to say that for a third so long as everyone is on board.
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5:27PM on 07/25/2012
Is this to accommodate the 14 endings??
Is this to accommodate the 14 endings??
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4:28PM on 07/25/2012
When i first heard the rumours a few weeks back, i wasn't for it because i felt like 2 films was enough to do the book justice, but i read in a different article that the reason why Jackson would consider another film is because Tolken actually had 125 additional pages that he was going to add to a reissue of the Hobbit to complement the LOTR story more. Anyways, these 125 pages include where it is Gandalf disappears too. Upon hearing this news, I am so down for a Hobbit Trilogy, it just sucks
When i first heard the rumours a few weeks back, i wasn't for it because i felt like 2 films was enough to do the book justice, but i read in a different article that the reason why Jackson would consider another film is because Tolken actually had 125 additional pages that he was going to add to a reissue of the Hobbit to complement the LOTR story more. Anyways, these 125 pages include where it is Gandalf disappears too. Upon hearing this news, I am so down for a Hobbit Trilogy, it just sucks I have to wait longer for the blu-ray box set
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6:54AM on 07/26/2012
Those "125 pages" are called "The appendices to LOTR" and mention where Gandalf went, etc. PJ has already said that we will see all of that, so why this 11th hour switch to 3 movies? Guess we'll find out one day.
Those "125 pages" are called "The appendices to LOTR" and mention where Gandalf went, etc. PJ has already said that we will see all of that, so why this 11th hour switch to 3 movies? Guess we'll find out one day.
3:28PM on 07/25/2012
To me, another would do me great pleasure.
To me, another would do me great pleasure.
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11:24AM on 07/25/2012
The Lord of the Rings series is just about my favorite movie ever. Fellowship was the film that got me interested in movies as more than just an audience member. But I honestly think this sounds really unnecessary. Who knows, it could be wonderful! But yeah, I don't think it seems like it needs to be done.
Then again, I said that about making a Hobbit movie in the first place, and then I saw the trailer and changed my tune.
The Lord of the Rings series is just about my favorite movie ever. Fellowship was the film that got me interested in movies as more than just an audience member. But I honestly think this sounds really unnecessary. Who knows, it could be wonderful! But yeah, I don't think it seems like it needs to be done.
Then again, I said that about making a Hobbit movie in the first place, and then I saw the trailer and changed my tune.
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10:48AM on 07/25/2012

middle earth,any day

i hav no problem with that.wish these films live upto LOTR trilogy.i also want to see more Tolkien's adaptations and LOTR IMAX 3D AND HUGE THEME PARK with those beautiful locations in LOTR
i hav no problem with that.wish these films live upto LOTR trilogy.i also want to see more Tolkien's adaptations and LOTR IMAX 3D AND HUGE THEME PARK with those beautiful locations in LOTR
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10:06AM on 07/25/2012
Kinda saw this coming, but maybe Warner's like what they saw? Or maybe just want to make more mint, I guess we'll find out soon enough. Surprised they didn't want Nolan to expand Rises into two movies, seems to the craze.
Kinda saw this coming, but maybe Warner's like what they saw? Or maybe just want to make more mint, I guess we'll find out soon enough. Surprised they didn't want Nolan to expand Rises into two movies, seems to the craze.
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8:49AM on 07/25/2012

This is quite interesting.

What did they feel they were leaving out with 2 films?
I doubt Peter Jackson would just drag it out for money's sake, and it looks like he's the one pushing for another film.
SO, clearly something has been bugging him.
What did they feel they were leaving out with 2 films?
I doubt Peter Jackson would just drag it out for money's sake, and it looks like he's the one pushing for another film.
SO, clearly something has been bugging him.
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8:05AM on 07/25/2012
It was already unnecessary breaking this into two movies, why make a third? Unless of course it's a prequel (The Similarion).
It was already unnecessary breaking this into two movies, why make a third? Unless of course it's a prequel (The Similarion).
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2:46PM on 07/25/2012
Oh gods, I would be horrified at a Silmarillion film. If anything is impossible to adapt, it's that.
Oh gods, I would be horrified at a Silmarillion film. If anything is impossible to adapt, it's that.
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7:39AM on 07/25/2012

Bad idea.

What about the source material? There is a reason why Tolkien put certain events in the Appendices. It is because they needed paragraphs to relate and not books of their own. I love LOTR and I will likely love THE HOBBIT, but there's a limit to how much you can stretch the source material for a cash grab.
What about the source material? There is a reason why Tolkien put certain events in the Appendices. It is because they needed paragraphs to relate and not books of their own. I love LOTR and I will likely love THE HOBBIT, but there's a limit to how much you can stretch the source material for a cash grab.
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7:25AM on 07/25/2012
I think the reason they need to make the decision soon is because this is being envisioned as a true trilogy, not a 2-part Hobbit and a bridge film. If it was a bridge film, they could always come back later and add in. This is about beefing up the middle and moving the Battle of Five Armies to the prospective 3rd movie. It's kind of funny they just had their "wrap" party and they might have another 100 days of shooting to look forward too. I don't want to get excited, so I don't become
I think the reason they need to make the decision soon is because this is being envisioned as a true trilogy, not a 2-part Hobbit and a bridge film. If it was a bridge film, they could always come back later and add in. This is about beefing up the middle and moving the Battle of Five Armies to the prospective 3rd movie. It's kind of funny they just had their "wrap" party and they might have another 100 days of shooting to look forward too. I don't want to get excited, so I don't become disappointed if it never happens. Advice to Warner Bros.: Christopher Tolkien might think Peter Jackson and you are dogshit, but if you offer enough money, I'm sure the grandkids will murder him in his sleep for you.
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6:46AM on 07/25/2012

Only, *ONLY* if it bridges the 60 years from Hobbit to LOTR

While I'd like to see lots of Middle Earth, if this is just a money-grabber, where The Hobbit is split into more films than is needed to tell the story then NO WAY.

But if this becomes the BRIDGE movie, then great...but it'll take new casting if you're gonna show "Young Aragorn" and etc.
While I'd like to see lots of Middle Earth, if this is just a money-grabber, where The Hobbit is split into more films than is needed to tell the story then NO WAY.

But if this becomes the BRIDGE movie, then great...but it'll take new casting if you're gonna show "Young Aragorn" and etc.
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6:42AM on 07/25/2012
I'm all for this so long as they actually have a cohesive (and necessary) story to tell in a third film and it is not being considered purely for financial reasons.
I'm all for this so long as they actually have a cohesive (and necessary) story to tell in a third film and it is not being considered purely for financial reasons.
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6:23AM on 07/25/2012
I can definitely understand why some wouldn't want this, but I would actually love to see Jackson bring it all together so we could all watch a 20 hour epic story. Really looking forward to December.
I can definitely understand why some wouldn't want this, but I would actually love to see Jackson bring it all together so we could all watch a 20 hour epic story. Really looking forward to December.
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6:15AM on 07/25/2012
I love the Lord of The Rings trilogy. I think this two-part Hobbit will also be nice.
But don't make a third one out of nothing.
If they could make the three LOTR books into three movies, then two movies should be enough for the Hobbit.
I love the Lord of The Rings trilogy. I think this two-part Hobbit will also be nice.
But don't make a third one out of nothing.
If they could make the three LOTR books into three movies, then two movies should be enough for the Hobbit.
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