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Shane Black says Iron Man 3 will be more like a Tom Clancy thriller?

03.07.2011

When we heard that Shane Black (KISS KISS, BANG BANG, LETHAL WEAPON) would be taking over the reins of IRON MAN 3, we all pretty much jumped for nerdy joy and probably even popped a boner or two. But we still knew next to nothing regarding the direction of the franchise's third installment. We didn't even know whether or not Black - known first and foremost to movie geeks as one of Hollywood's best scribes - would be writing the thing!

But now thanks to scooper 'Krullboy' over at AICN, we're beginning to glean just a little bit more information on the sequel. Apparently, Black made an appearance at the Omaha Film Festival yesterday and divulged some IRON MAN 3 tidbits among other things. Here's the scoop:

"[Shane Black] is scheduled to meet with Robert Downey Jr. this week when he returns to L.A. Downey will be contributing to the story and Shane will be writing it in addition to directing.

The studio was not happy with the direction Iron Man 2 took. Iron Man 3 will not be another 'two men in iron suits fighting each other' film. Instead, it will be more like a Tom Clancy-thriller, with Iron Man fighting real world villians.

Iron Man 3 will be made after The Avengers and will not feature any other heroes from the Marvel Universe. Marvel is only doing crossover characters to lead up to The Avengers, and once that film is released, the plan is to go back to self-containted single-character stories."


The Clancy techno-thriller angle sounds interesting and I'm really looking forward to what Black could do with that. But this stuff about no more cross-overs post AVENGERS? Really?
Extra Tidbit: I just want puffy Val Kilmer to play M.O.D.O.K. in the Marvel movie universe. Is that too much to ask?

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9:40AM on 03/08/2011

I smell bullshit

Iron Man 2 was a lot like the comics. I saw an image of a drunken Tony Stark on some comics fan website and thought "Isn't it cool that we got to see that in nthe movies?" I mean, the whole Tony Stark drinking wasn't really the big deal it was in the comics but I thought they did an okay job. They could have done a bit better but I thought the over all direction that the movie went in was spot on. They are just expressing sour grapes because the original director left and now they are
Iron Man 2 was a lot like the comics. I saw an image of a drunken Tony Stark on some comics fan website and thought "Isn't it cool that we got to see that in nthe movies?" I mean, the whole Tony Stark drinking wasn't really the big deal it was in the comics but I thought they did an okay job. They could have done a bit better but I thought the over all direction that the movie went in was spot on. They are just expressing sour grapes because the original director left and now they are saying "Oh well it's okay because we weren't happy with the job he was doing." Bullshit.
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9:34AM on 03/08/2011

I smell bullshit

Iron Man 2 was a lot like the comics. I saw an image of a drunken Tony Stark on some comics fan website and thought "Isn't it cool that we got to see that in nthe movies?" I mean, the whole Tony Stark drinking wasn't really the big deal it was in the comics but I thought they did an okay job. They could have done a bit better but I thought the over all direction that the movie went in was spot on. They are just expressing sour grapes because the original director left and now they are
Iron Man 2 was a lot like the comics. I saw an image of a drunken Tony Stark on some comics fan website and thought "Isn't it cool that we got to see that in nthe movies?" I mean, the whole Tony Stark drinking wasn't really the big deal it was in the comics but I thought they did an okay job. They could have done a bit better but I thought the over all direction that the movie went in was spot on. They are just expressing sour grapes because the original director left and now they are saying "Oh well it's okay because we weren't happy with the job he was doing." Bullshit.
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7:45AM on 03/08/2011

Crossovers

I'm okay with the Avengers being the only ensemble flick. I think it would be cool to go back to self contained stories with maybe a a guest cameo every now and then. Like the Silver Surfer in FF4...only, ya know...good. Kinda like each hero gets their own comic series, they should get their own flicks. At least until Avengers 2.
I'm okay with the Avengers being the only ensemble flick. I think it would be cool to go back to self contained stories with maybe a a guest cameo every now and then. Like the Silver Surfer in FF4...only, ya know...good. Kinda like each hero gets their own comic series, they should get their own flicks. At least until Avengers 2.
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11:38PM on 03/07/2011
it'll PROBABLY be like IRON MAN busting tech'd out terrorist skulls...I'm down with that.
it'll PROBABLY be like IRON MAN busting tech'd out terrorist skulls...I'm down with that.
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8:09PM on 03/07/2011
I don't see why you couldn't have a more realistic villian and an armored suit one. The problem with the Iron Man movies is they never gave the villians that much to do, and you never believed Iron Man was in any danger. I'm hoping that Cheadle, Paltrow, and Rockwell will be back for 3. But who will play Happy?
I don't see why you couldn't have a more realistic villian and an armored suit one. The problem with the Iron Man movies is they never gave the villians that much to do, and you never believed Iron Man was in any danger. I'm hoping that Cheadle, Paltrow, and Rockwell will be back for 3. But who will play Happy?
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7:55PM on 03/07/2011

i'm down

crucify me if you like, but i thought iron man 2 was the best movie of last summer, and better than the first. i'm down for whatever black brings.
crucify me if you like, but i thought iron man 2 was the best movie of last summer, and better than the first. i'm down for whatever black brings.
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4:47AM on 03/08/2011
I was wih you up till the shane black part.
I was wih you up till the shane black part.
9:40AM on 03/08/2011
Feh. It could have been better. I think too many comic book movies start filming without a finish script and it showed this time.
Feh. It could have been better. I think too many comic book movies start filming without a finish script and it showed this time.
7:26PM on 03/07/2011

Umm... What was the point??

Why would they spend so much time setting up this "shared" Marvel film Universe just to drop it after the Avengers film?? I highly doubt Marvel would do that. IM3 may have a more "real world" feel (which is ridculous considering the source material) but to ignore the rest of the Marvel Universe after the Avengers would be wrong. These films are based on comic books why must they be realistic at all? If I want realism I can turn on the news and see the world going to Hell and Charlie Sheen
Why would they spend so much time setting up this "shared" Marvel film Universe just to drop it after the Avengers film?? I highly doubt Marvel would do that. IM3 may have a more "real world" feel (which is ridculous considering the source material) but to ignore the rest of the Marvel Universe after the Avengers would be wrong. These films are based on comic books why must they be realistic at all? If I want realism I can turn on the news and see the world going to Hell and Charlie Sheen dancing around like a flaming badger.
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6:53PM on 03/07/2011
Already sounds better than Iron Man 2. Maybe a more adult direction.
Already sounds better than Iron Man 2. Maybe a more adult direction.
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6:39PM on 03/07/2011
While I kind of like this idea, I don't like that they are going off to do their own thing. There is such a gold mine of stories to be done from the comics, why not use it? There are all kinds of stories that don't involve a clashing of men in suits. I suppose they want to express their own creative muscles though, which means we should all be very afraid.
While I kind of like this idea, I don't like that they are going off to do their own thing. There is such a gold mine of stories to be done from the comics, why not use it? There are all kinds of stories that don't involve a clashing of men in suits. I suppose they want to express their own creative muscles though, which means we should all be very afraid.
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4:17PM on 03/07/2011

I'm in!

As long as it's done right, obviously.
And Iron Man 3 is still a couple years away so I'm not taking this news that seriously. Especially the part that says no more cross-overs, yeah, right. Marvel will have other characters and other movies in sight to introduce by then so we all know that's gonna change.

As for a Tom Clancy-thriller type movie? Techno-thriller? Hell yes! A.I.M., The Ghost, Spy Master, the Living Laser. Lots of good villains for such a movie!
As long as it's done right, obviously.
And Iron Man 3 is still a couple years away so I'm not taking this news that seriously. Especially the part that says no more cross-overs, yeah, right. Marvel will have other characters and other movies in sight to introduce by then so we all know that's gonna change.

As for a Tom Clancy-thriller type movie? Techno-thriller? Hell yes! A.I.M., The Ghost, Spy Master, the Living Laser. Lots of good villains for such a movie!
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3:24PM on 03/07/2011

really?!

so let me geet this straight the studio makes fav direct a movie that they want to set up avengers, and in the process piss him off enough to get him to walk then they blame him for the crappy movie? forgive my french but hornswaggle, screw marvel they made all the first movies to avenger centric i mean a scene is fine but they made iron about the avengers, and now they say "oh it was the directors fault" that just sucks. as for this new idea and where to go, it sucks because favs was leading
so let me geet this straight the studio makes fav direct a movie that they want to set up avengers, and in the process piss him off enough to get him to walk then they blame him for the crappy movie? forgive my french but hornswaggle, screw marvel they made all the first movies to avenger centric i mean a scene is fine but they made iron about the avengers, and now they say "oh it was the directors fault" that just sucks. as for this new idea and where to go, it sucks because favs was leading up to the mandorin. he was the guaranteed villian of the third but marvel screwed over the franchise and now are acting inoccent at this point i will which the next one but i'm not anticipating it
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9:46AM on 03/08/2011
Actually, I think a movie with the Mandarin as the villain would have bombed badly. Marvel might have said "We don't want to use the Mandarin" and Favs said "What then?" and so he walked because he had no other idea for Iron Man 3. Which is fine for all concerned. No hard feelings. I feel bad for Raimi because he wanted to have the Lizard in Spiderman 4 but Sony said no so they got rid of Raimi but they are still going to have the Lizard as the villain. This makes more sense.
Actually, I think a movie with the Mandarin as the villain would have bombed badly. Marvel might have said "We don't want to use the Mandarin" and Favs said "What then?" and so he walked because he had no other idea for Iron Man 3. Which is fine for all concerned. No hard feelings. I feel bad for Raimi because he wanted to have the Lizard in Spiderman 4 but Sony said no so they got rid of Raimi but they are still going to have the Lizard as the villain. This makes more sense.
2:58PM on 03/07/2011
Wouldn't mind seeing some more Black Widow
Wouldn't mind seeing some more Black Widow
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1:36PM on 03/07/2011
I'm glad to hear this news! That was the one thing I didn't like about the first two Iron Man films, he never fought anything other than a ripoff of his own suit. Should be cool to see something different.
I'm glad to hear this news! That was the one thing I didn't like about the first two Iron Man films, he never fought anything other than a ripoff of his own suit. Should be cool to see something different.
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11:53AM on 03/07/2011
i like the idea of making it into more of a thriller but Iron Man is about evil guys with magic powers or guys with super suits. He cant really fight normal guys because he would kill them cause hes in a fucking armored suit.

I have faith in Black to pull this off, i just hope they dont decided to have some plot device where he loses his suit and doesnt get it back until the last 10 mins of the movie.
i like the idea of making it into more of a thriller but Iron Man is about evil guys with magic powers or guys with super suits. He cant really fight normal guys because he would kill them cause hes in a fucking armored suit.

I have faith in Black to pull this off, i just hope they dont decided to have some plot device where he loses his suit and doesnt get it back until the last 10 mins of the movie.
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11:35AM on 03/07/2011
"jumped for nerdy joy and probably even popped a boner or two" Now THAT is as real world as it gets!

I guarantee the line about Marvel not being happy with IM2 is false or taken way out of context. They may want more focus on Iron Man but nothing's wrong when you produce one of the top ten movies of the year. Taking down Mandarin as head of the Ten Rings seems like a natural conclusion to the trilogy.
"jumped for nerdy joy and probably even popped a boner or two" Now THAT is as real world as it gets!

I guarantee the line about Marvel not being happy with IM2 is false or taken way out of context. They may want more focus on Iron Man but nothing's wrong when you produce one of the top ten movies of the year. Taking down Mandarin as head of the Ten Rings seems like a natural conclusion to the trilogy.
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11:35AM on 03/07/2011

So let me get this straight...

So Marvel, a comic book company that publishes stories about super-heroes fighting super-villains, thought Iron Man 2 was too "comic-book"-ish and now wants to make political thrillers with real-world villains??? Oh, and pigs can fly now????
So Marvel, a comic book company that publishes stories about super-heroes fighting super-villains, thought Iron Man 2 was too "comic-book"-ish and now wants to make political thrillers with real-world villains??? Oh, and pigs can fly now????
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11:31AM on 03/07/2011
I can totally see them doing Mandarin but w/out the magical rings.
I can totally see them doing Mandarin but w/out the magical rings.
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11:17AM on 03/07/2011

Villians

What is meant by "real world villians"?

Is Iron Man going after Osama Bin Laden?

Hope he's not just going to go round fighting terrorism or somehting lame like that, we need a prominent villian from the franchise.
What is meant by "real world villians"?

Is Iron Man going after Osama Bin Laden?

Hope he's not just going to go round fighting terrorism or somehting lame like that, we need a prominent villian from the franchise.
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11:49AM on 03/07/2011
he's gonna accidental get sent back in time to fight Nazis
he's gonna accidental get sent back in time to fight Nazis
11:13AM on 03/07/2011
I just want Mandarin in this thing! But I am sad that there will no longer be anymore Marvel characters, I would at least like to see Nick Fury and Black Widow again.
I just want Mandarin in this thing! But I am sad that there will no longer be anymore Marvel characters, I would at least like to see Nick Fury and Black Widow again.
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10:17AM on 03/07/2011
awesome! great news to hear i was def disappointed in im2.
awesome! great news to hear i was def disappointed in im2.
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9:35AM on 03/07/2011
This news is definitely wait and see. Could work with Shane Black at the helm. I suggest Chow Yun Fat as The Mandarin. Make him a Chinese arms dealer!
This news is definitely wait and see. Could work with Shane Black at the helm. I suggest Chow Yun Fat as The Mandarin. Make him a Chinese arms dealer!
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9:28AM on 03/07/2011
And here I was hoping for Fin Fang Foom :(
And here I was hoping for Fin Fang Foom :(
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8:40AM on 03/07/2011
Sounds aight, but I liked Iron Man 2 even though it was a step down from #1 for sure.
Sounds aight, but I liked Iron Man 2 even though it was a step down from #1 for sure.
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8:25AM on 03/07/2011
Isnt Marvel the reason IM2 sucked in the first place. They shoehorned an Avengers subplot into the main story of a stand alone sequel placing Downey and Rourke on the backburner until the final minutes of film. Would like to see Shane Black film but this is utter bullshit from movie studios today when a film does poorly. If they knew why didnt they stop production or drop story lines ?
Isnt Marvel the reason IM2 sucked in the first place. They shoehorned an Avengers subplot into the main story of a stand alone sequel placing Downey and Rourke on the backburner until the final minutes of film. Would like to see Shane Black film but this is utter bullshit from movie studios today when a film does poorly. If they knew why didnt they stop production or drop story lines ?
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9:27AM on 03/07/2011
Maybe its the fact that everytime we saw Iron Man go up against Whiplash it lasted about 30 seconds in length
Maybe its the fact that everytime we saw Iron Man go up against Whiplash it lasted about 30 seconds in length
9:30AM on 03/07/2011
shut up faggot
shut up faggot
10:46AM on 03/07/2011
@BondFiction
That's really, really mature.
@BondFiction
That's really, really mature.
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8:18AM on 03/07/2011
Sounds good to me.

Probably a good idea to differentiate the character in this direction, at a by then established marvel universe.
Sounds good to me.

Probably a good idea to differentiate the character in this direction, at a by then established marvel universe.
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7:57AM on 03/07/2011
Not happy with the direction Iron Man 2 took? Then I guess the studio shouldnt have made such an insane deadline for release. And another thing, almost ALL of Iron Man's villains are armored baddies. Theres even a guy called the Unicorn who has an armored suit
Not happy with the direction Iron Man 2 took? Then I guess the studio shouldnt have made such an insane deadline for release. And another thing, almost ALL of Iron Man's villains are armored baddies. Theres even a guy called the Unicorn who has an armored suit
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7:37AM on 03/07/2011
Sounds good to me! Iron Man 2 was ok but not as strong as the first one was. Make IM3 more serious then part 2 could be a good move. And I like most the Tom Clancy movies.
Sounds good to me! Iron Man 2 was ok but not as strong as the first one was. Make IM3 more serious then part 2 could be a good move. And I like most the Tom Clancy movies.
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7:23AM on 03/07/2011

meh

IDK about this one. I do appreciate them adding the thriller aspect but like Netforce said, isn't Iron man about men fighting in iron suits? I just hope they don't sacrifice the action for the suspense. Because that would be stupid. Like an Xmen murder mystery made in the style of Murder She Wrote.
IDK about this one. I do appreciate them adding the thriller aspect but like Netforce said, isn't Iron man about men fighting in iron suits? I just hope they don't sacrifice the action for the suspense. Because that would be stupid. Like an Xmen murder mystery made in the style of Murder She Wrote.
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7:35AM on 03/07/2011
I think I'm having a picture of X-Men murder mystery in the style of Murder on the Orient Express. But I got your point, man.
I think I'm having a picture of X-Men murder mystery in the style of Murder on the Orient Express. But I got your point, man.
7:21AM on 03/07/2011

Containted isn't a word..

..but it totally should be.
..but it totally should be.
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7:14AM on 03/07/2011
Isn't Iron Man all about guys in iron suits slug it out on battlefield? Think about it: Iron Man fights with Crimson Dynamo, Titanium Man, Firepower and even War Machine himself. Iron Man fights more of real-world villain in & after Extremis storyline but I doubt Iron Man 3 will go Extremis route.

Still, with the news of Iron Man 3 going to be Tom Clancy thriller, I'm game.
Isn't Iron Man all about guys in iron suits slug it out on battlefield? Think about it: Iron Man fights with Crimson Dynamo, Titanium Man, Firepower and even War Machine himself. Iron Man fights more of real-world villain in & after Extremis storyline but I doubt Iron Man 3 will go Extremis route.

Still, with the news of Iron Man 3 going to be Tom Clancy thriller, I'm game.
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7:02AM on 03/07/2011
Isn't Iron Man all about guys in iron suits slug it out on battlefield? Think about it: Iron Man fights with Crimson Dynamo, Titanium Man, Firepower and even War Machine himself. Iron Man fights more of real-world villain in & after Extremis storyline but I doubt Iron Man 3 will go Extremis route.

Still, with the news of Iron Man 3 going to be Tom Clancy thriller, I'm game.
Isn't Iron Man all about guys in iron suits slug it out on battlefield? Think about it: Iron Man fights with Crimson Dynamo, Titanium Man, Firepower and even War Machine himself. Iron Man fights more of real-world villain in & after Extremis storyline but I doubt Iron Man 3 will go Extremis route.

Still, with the news of Iron Man 3 going to be Tom Clancy thriller, I'm game.
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