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11.24.2009

You probably have heard that at one point William Shatner had been written in to the new STAR TREK film in an ending cameo that would have made everyone’s day. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, the scene was cut as either Abrams didn’t want it, or Shatner was approached and didn’t want to do it.

However, the folks over at TrekMovie have gotten their hands on the original script that featured Shatner, and we get to see his ending monologue that could have been.

Here’s an excerpt from the end:

As Kirk rejoins his crew for hugs and congratulations, we go to the BACK of the hangar… SPOCK PRIME. Watching. Moved beyond words. He turns and leaves them to it… as he goes…

KIRK/SHATNER (V.O.)

I know what you’d say — ‘It’s their turn now, Jim…’ And of course you’re right… but it got me thinking:

INT. STARFLEET HOSPITAL – EARTH – DAY

Our montage comes full circle as we END on Kirk’s transmission:

KIRK/SHATNER

Who’s to say we can’t go one more round? By the last tally, only twenty five percent of the galaxy’s been chartered… I’d call that negligent. Criminal even — an invitation. You once said being a starship captain was my first, best destiny… if that’s true, then yours is to be by my side. If there’s any true logic to the universe… we’ll end up on that bridge again someday.

Stops, grins. Because this is the part he needs to say most…

KIRK/SHATNER

Admit it, Spock. For people like us, the journey itself… is home.

Young Spock’s face. Lost in feelings that flood through him.

Read the entire scene here at TrekMovie.

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Extra Tidbit: I could have dug that.
Source: TrekMovie

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7:23PM on 11/24/2009
I hate double posts... we need the ability to delete our posts if need be.
I hate double posts... we need the ability to delete our posts if need be.
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7:22PM on 11/24/2009

Glad they didn't do it, but...

still would've been nice to see in the blu-ray as an alternate ending for those who need their Shatner fix.
still would've been nice to see in the blu-ray as an alternate ending for those who need their Shatner fix.
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4:42PM on 11/24/2009

But Kirk Prime is dead...

He died after leaving the Nexus... uh... how could he have possibly been in the reboot?
He died after leaving the Nexus... uh... how could he have possibly been in the reboot?
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7:23PM on 11/24/2009
read the scene more closely or the comments below and all will be answered.
read the scene more closely or the comments below and all will be answered.
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4:01PM on 11/24/2009

Long but good comment.

Wow, that's horribly drawn out. Way too talky.

I'm glad they came to their senses and just snapped the movie closed instead of this like over long sappy shit where we get a glory shot of the whole NEW CAST all together, Bones says one more snappy line of dialogue, Pike over references the Kobyashi-Maru scenario. All bad stuff.

But the real killer is this...

There's no need for Old Kirk at all.

We don't NEED Old Kirk singing happy birthday to Old Spock in a hologram
Wow, that's horribly drawn out. Way too talky.

I'm glad they came to their senses and just snapped the movie closed instead of this like over long sappy shit where we get a glory shot of the whole NEW CAST all together, Bones says one more snappy line of dialogue, Pike over references the Kobyashi-Maru scenario. All bad stuff.

But the real killer is this...

There's no need for Old Kirk at all.

We don't NEED Old Kirk singing happy birthday to Old Spock in a hologram pendant.

Why?

(How convenient how it just happens to be written that we've had glimpses of it, but NOW we're finding out HOW SPECIAL IT IS. Poor writing)

We don't need Spock to let us know they will be friends one day. Nor do we need to Old Spock, to prove to Young Spock anything about the friendship that will be with Young Kirk in the future.

THIS WHOLE THING defies and contradicts what Old Kirk says at the end and makes it all the more pointless:

KIRK
Admit it, Spock. For people like us, the
journey itself... is home.

By Old Spock giving Young Spock that hologram of Old Kirk totally takes away from the journey. It detracts from LETTING Young Spock have his personal evolution, it detracts from the "journey" itself.

And it's just bad writing.

Seems only the good stuff made it to the screen from this draft. So, whichever guy does the bulk of the editing- Kurtzman or Orci, THAT guy saved the fuckin' movie. Could have been J.J Abrams as well who hit the brakes and stopped the shit-train.

Final note: The question that has to be asked, for this film is this: "Could Old Spock and Old Kirk share screen time again, whether it be thru a kitchy device, or some sorta gag, or even if BOTH actors were [link]

The answer: No.

Here's why: it's as simple as this- A triangle is more interesting than a square.
1. point being Young Spock
2. being Young Kirk
3. being Old Spock

When it's a square with point 4 being Old Kirk, it becomes cumbersome and uninteresting because it never has the relationship shape begging for that balance we all secretly want WHICH IS TO SEE OLD KIRK.

Old Kirk is better left as an off screen character that WE know will exist simply because Old Spock mentions him. It adds tension. Simple as that.

I will lay odds someone figured that out, EXACTLY the way I have it set up, and that's why there was no Old Kirk in any incarnation.
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4:00PM on 11/24/2009
This would have made it even worse. Putting Nimoy in the movie was too much as it was.
This would have made it even worse. Putting Nimoy in the movie was too much as it was.
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3:50PM on 11/24/2009

No Need

Nimoy as Spock Prime was plenty.
Nimoy as Spock Prime was plenty.
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2:14PM on 11/24/2009

That...

... actually could have worked. I mean it wasn't necessary (as we saw), but it would have been nice Trek-moment.
... actually could have worked. I mean it wasn't necessary (as we saw), but it would have been nice Trek-moment.
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12:50PM on 11/24/2009

A Missed Opportunity

It's such a shame this wasn't included and it wasn't that Abrams didn't want Shatner, it's that Shatner wanted more screentime being Shatner and when Abrams said no Shatner walked. But reading that excerpt it's such a shame they couldn't work things out. Shatner's cameo in Fanboys after all was one of the best scenes (of many, but one of my favorites).
It's such a shame this wasn't included and it wasn't that Abrams didn't want Shatner, it's that Shatner wanted more screentime being Shatner and when Abrams said no Shatner walked. But reading that excerpt it's such a shame they couldn't work things out. Shatner's cameo in Fanboys after all was one of the best scenes (of many, but one of my favorites).
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12:02PM on 11/24/2009

sooo glad

he DIDN'T do the movie. it would have simply been overkill. nimoy was enough. maybe he can cameo in the next one just so he can yell "KAAAHHNNNN!!!"
he DIDN'T do the movie. it would have simply been overkill. nimoy was enough. maybe he can cameo in the next one just so he can yell "KAAAHHNNNN!!!"
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2:16PM on 11/24/2009
For you man
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For you man
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