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Simon Kinberg says Josh Trank's Fantastic Four is "a coming of age story"

Apr. 21, 2014by: Jesse Giroux

One thing is very clear whenever new information is released for Josh Trank's THE FANTASTIC FOUR: most of you do not have high hopes for the reboot. I don't either, and I doubt any of these latest comments from writer/producer Simon Kinberg are going to change your thoughts on Trank's upcoming film.

One of the biggest complaints from fans has been the age of the cast for THE FANTASTIC FOUR, and in an interview with Den of Geek, Simon Kinberg says the characters won't be in high school in the film, however they won't be superhero veterans either.

We’re definitely telling a younger story that the original films did. It depends on what books you look at. There are some, like the Ultimate books, that tell this story. So it is an origin story of the Fantastic Four, and it does follow them before they really know what a superhero is. They’re older than high school, but they’re not quite grown into the world. If anything, this is a coming of age story.

In the original comics, The Fantastic Four gained superpowers after being exposed to cosmic rays during a mission to outer space, but in the Ultimate Comics, it is from being teleported into a parallel universe called the N-Zone. When asked, Simon Kinberg wouldn't say which version will be used in the reboot.

There is archetypal imagery of how they get their powers, for sure, and it does involve some sort of scientific travel.

Kinberg also recently told Crave THE FANTASTIC FOUR will definitely have more drama than comedy, and the tone will be somewhere between Sam Raimi's SPIDER-MAN and Trank's CHRONICLE.

It’s a much more grounded, gritty, realistic movie than the last couple movies. If I had to say, the tone of it would be somewhere on the spectrum between Spider-Man and Chronicle. Josh Trank’s instincts are to be as realistic and grounded and real with this stuff as possible,” says the producer. “In many ways I would say it’s definitely more of a drama than comedy.

I think there's a very good chance the N-Zone will be used to explain how they received their superpowers, but does a different origin make me more excited for the reboot? Eh, not really. Maybe it's just because I've never been a huge fan of the comics, and an awesome trailer could always change my mind, but right now, Josh Trank's THE FANTASTIC FOUR isn't doing much for me.

THE FANTASTIC FOUR starring Miles Teller, Kate Mara, Jamie Bell, Michael B. Jordan and Toby Kebbell is scheduled to open on June 19th, 2015.

Source: Den of GeekCrave

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9:45AM on 04/21/2014
Drama? Really? I never thought of Fantastic Four as drama. Yes, there might be some dramatic elements here and there but overall it's a light-hearted story about superheroes and their fame. And how can you be realistic when your protagonists are elastic, invisible, stone, and burst into flame most of the time?
Drama? Really? I never thought of Fantastic Four as drama. Yes, there might be some dramatic elements here and there but overall it's a light-hearted story about superheroes and their fame. And how can you be realistic when your protagonists are elastic, invisible, stone, and burst into flame most of the time?
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12:26PM on 04/21/2014
Matt Fraction's recent run on the comic was described as a "family sitcom" and I think the Fantastic Four should always have some elements of that for it to work.
Matt Fraction's recent run on the comic was described as a "family sitcom" and I think the Fantastic Four should always have some elements of that for it to work.
10:12AM on 04/21/2014
Sounds like one of those made-for-TV soapy movies, hehe.
Sounds like one of those made-for-TV soapy movies, hehe.
9:48AM on 04/21/2014
I can hear the voice over now..."a film about a boy who becomes a rock, another boy who catches on fire. Come see their emotional journey as they try to live their daily lives".
I can hear the voice over now..."a film about a boy who becomes a rock, another boy who catches on fire. Come see their emotional journey as they try to live their daily lives".
9:46AM on 04/21/2014
Movie is going to be terrible. This film has nothing going for it in terms of quality and the cast is all wrong for their respected parts.
Movie is going to be terrible. This film has nothing going for it in terms of quality and the cast is all wrong for their respected parts.
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10:10AM on 04/21/2014

While the last movies weren't that great,

I thought the tone was 100% spot on. And aside from Jessica Alba, the casting was quite perfect (excluding Julian McMahon, but that's more about the character than the casting). So taking away that tone and casting actors that don't seem to fit... The ONLY two things the first movies had going for them... I can't see this going very well.
I thought the tone was 100% spot on. And aside from Jessica Alba, the casting was quite perfect (excluding Julian McMahon, but that's more about the character than the casting). So taking away that tone and casting actors that don't seem to fit... The ONLY two things the first movies had going for them... I can't see this going very well.
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10:12AM on 04/21/2014
"It's about how after preschool, they move on to elementary school. Coming of age."
"It's about how after preschool, they move on to elementary school. Coming of age."
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10:15AM on 04/21/2014
This hasn't been cancelled yet?
This hasn't been cancelled yet?
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12:31PM on 04/21/2014
The rumors of this movies death have been greatly exaggerated.
The rumors of this movies death have been greatly exaggerated.
11:38AM on 04/21/2014
What a waste of money.
What a waste of money.
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10:53AM on 04/21/2014
They just can't help from shitting on this franchise
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They just can't help from shitting on this franchise
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11:37AM on 04/21/2014
A coming of age story? Really? Wow, they really are clueless.
A coming of age story? Really? Wow, they really are clueless.
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11:57AM on 04/21/2014
Way past giving a shit about this movie...
Way past giving a shit about this movie...
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12:01PM on 04/21/2014
Totally agree with the guy who said the tone and casting were mostly spot-on. Especially in the 2nd movie, there are actually some excellent character moments. My favorite is when Reed is talking to Johnny about why his powers are going haywire. As Reed starts talking, there's a big smile on his face because he's fascinated and excited by the science of what's happening. He quickly realizes this is not a laughing matter, and forces himself to be serious. Classic Reed Richards. I also
Totally agree with the guy who said the tone and casting were mostly spot-on. Especially in the 2nd movie, there are actually some excellent character moments. My favorite is when Reed is talking to Johnny about why his powers are going haywire. As Reed starts talking, there's a big smile on his face because he's fascinated and excited by the science of what's happening. He quickly realizes this is not a laughing matter, and forces himself to be serious. Classic Reed Richards. I also enjoyed the quick bit of the Thing and Torch arguing over who is going to fly the Fantasticar before Reed steps in and yells that he's driving, as Ben and Johnny share a smile and then hop in. Much of the two movies didn't work, but I felt that Evans and Chiklis (who completely nailed the Thing-Torch friendship/rivalry) and most of the actors did a fine job. The comedic, light-hearted tone was perfect for the FF. The " grounded gritty realistic" words that get overused every time a new comic book movie happens are completely inappropriate for a family that visits undersea civilizations, the moon, and discovers new dimensions and alien worlds. I try to be positive but they are making it so damn hard for me. Miles Teller's quote about reading the script and not feeling like he was reading a larger than life incredible superhero tale was especially disappointing, because that's EXACTLY what the FF should feel like.
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12:29PM on 04/21/2014

Absolute BS

There is nothing wrong with a black Johnny Storm, hell they could turn Reed Richards gay and it wouldn't matter. What really matters is the horrible direction this movie is going towards. It sounds like they are making Digrassi the Fantastic Four years. Aiming it towards the 12-17 year old tween fans. Besides Michael B Jordan, there hasn't been a single good actor cast in this and every character has been horribly miscasted.

I want to know who thought it would be a good idea to hire the
There is nothing wrong with a black Johnny Storm, hell they could turn Reed Richards gay and it wouldn't matter. What really matters is the horrible direction this movie is going towards. It sounds like they are making Digrassi the Fantastic Four years. Aiming it towards the 12-17 year old tween fans. Besides Michael B Jordan, there hasn't been a single good actor cast in this and every character has been horribly miscasted.

I want to know who thought it would be a good idea to hire the dancing kid to play The Thing... I guess we a getting a Thing on a diet who sounds like young Harry Potter in his second movie.
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12:35PM on 04/21/2014
At this rate with all the complete left field changes being made to the known structure of The Fantastic Four before you know it this film will soon be about four high school friends who solve the impossible task of finishing the schools year book on time regardless of the obstacles the tyrannical principle Dr Doom puts in their way. Reed will be the nerdy kid, Sue will be hot chick with brains to match and is of course a cheerleader/drama department head, Johnny will be the pretty boy dream
At this rate with all the complete left field changes being made to the known structure of The Fantastic Four before you know it this film will soon be about four high school friends who solve the impossible task of finishing the schools year book on time regardless of the obstacles the tyrannical principle Dr Doom puts in their way. Reed will be the nerdy kid, Sue will be hot chick with brains to match and is of course a cheerleader/drama department head, Johnny will be the pretty boy dream boat and of course Ben will be the jock with the heart of gold.
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1:29PM on 04/21/2014
Sounds like this should be directed by John Hughes. hahahaha
Sounds like this should be directed by John Hughes. hahahaha
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12:46PM on 04/21/2014
I automatically go to "ignore mode" once something is described as a coming-of-age story.
I automatically go to "ignore mode" once something is described as a coming-of-age story.
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2:57PM on 04/21/2014
Eff your coming of age story.
Eff your coming of age story.
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9:12PM on 04/21/2014
I second that.
I second that.
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3:09PM on 04/21/2014

Gritty, realistic....

Yeah.....A guy whose limbs stretch to 20' or 30' in a "realistic" sort of way.

Seriously, where do they get these idiots?
Yeah.....A guy whose limbs stretch to 20' or 30' in a "realistic" sort of way.

Seriously, where do they get these idiots?
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3:13PM on 04/21/2014

LoL

This gets worse every time there's another article about it.
This gets worse every time there's another article about it.
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3:37PM on 04/21/2014
This is beyond "I want to see this train wreck to see how bad it is." It is more along the lines of "I will not see this movie." In the current era of comic book heroes become summer blockbusters, this whole thing was conceived to trash that particular industry. Fail at every level. No doubt when this bombs at the box office SOMEBODY at Fox is gonna pull the race card out and everybody loses dignity.
This is beyond "I want to see this train wreck to see how bad it is." It is more along the lines of "I will not see this movie." In the current era of comic book heroes become summer blockbusters, this whole thing was conceived to trash that particular industry. Fail at every level. No doubt when this bombs at the box office SOMEBODY at Fox is gonna pull the race card out and everybody loses dignity.
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3:39PM on 04/21/2014
After this film, every action flick that bombs will be called "tranking it".the director's name will be synonymous with jumping the shark.
After this film, every action flick that bombs will be called "tranking it".the director's name will be synonymous with jumping the shark.
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5:22PM on 04/21/2014
Sounds promising to me. I think they are using the word gritty as opposed to the goofy tone of the previous films. The tone more serious than Spiderman but not as much as Chronicles sounds perfect. A more adult take, not ass childish, but not too dark. The actors selected that I know of are good ones. At least they are trying, I don't understand the general pessimism here.
Sounds promising to me. I think they are using the word gritty as opposed to the goofy tone of the previous films. The tone more serious than Spiderman but not as much as Chronicles sounds perfect. A more adult take, not ass childish, but not too dark. The actors selected that I know of are good ones. At least they are trying, I don't understand the general pessimism here.
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5:45PM on 04/21/2014
Why have we not received a solo Silver Surfer movie yet? That would be way more interesting than this. Sure they messed up Galactus, but Silver Surfer looked great in the last movie. Maybe if Guardians of the Galaxy is a hit (unlike Green Lantern) it'll encourage more sci-fi superhero films.
Why have we not received a solo Silver Surfer movie yet? That would be way more interesting than this. Sure they messed up Galactus, but Silver Surfer looked great in the last movie. Maybe if Guardians of the Galaxy is a hit (unlike Green Lantern) it'll encourage more sci-fi superhero films.
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8:14PM on 04/21/2014

of course, a gritty Fantastic Four

INT. - SPACELAB DINING ROOM - EVENING
Mr. Fantastic and Invisible Woman sit across a long dining table.

INVISIBLE WOMAN:
Reed, you were to dinner late again. Sometimes I wonder if you even really care about me. I'm leaving you.

MR. FANTASTIC:
Sue, don't leave me.

INVISIBLE WOMAN:
You're pathetic.

Reed stretches his arm across the table and slaps her in the face.

MR. FANTASTIC:
Dammit Sue, look what you made me do.

Sue turns invisible. The sound of weeping is still
INT. - SPACELAB DINING ROOM - EVENING
Mr. Fantastic and Invisible Woman sit across a long dining table.

INVISIBLE WOMAN:
Reed, you were to dinner late again. Sometimes I wonder if you even really care about me. I'm leaving you.

MR. FANTASTIC:
Sue, don't leave me.

INVISIBLE WOMAN:
You're pathetic.

Reed stretches his arm across the table and slaps her in the face.

MR. FANTASTIC:
Dammit Sue, look what you made me do.

Sue turns invisible. The sound of weeping is still audible.
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4:20AM on 04/22/2014

Interest in this film couldn't be lower.

This movie is gonna tank. Save the money now and just stop before it is too late.
This movie is gonna tank. Save the money now and just stop before it is too late.
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6:02AM on 04/22/2014

They should bail out now and save the money for something better.

There's no way this film makes it's money back.
There's no way this film makes it's money back.
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7:14AM on 04/22/2014
So instead of four teenagers dealing with puberty they are gonna be dealing with their powers.
Johnny Storm : ' My balls are on fire'
So instead of four teenagers dealing with puberty they are gonna be dealing with their powers.
Johnny Storm : ' My balls are on fire'
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