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Spider-Man gets some parents and a new villain?

Dec. 3, 2010by: Niki Stephens

Okay, we have some new SPIDER-MAN reboot news. There aren't too many details so I need you to just follow me here for a bit. I know it's scary. I'll hold your hand. Also note that you can chime in if I'm missing something in the story.

So as of right now, Peter Parker (Andrew Garfield) has a dad. Campbell Scott (SINGLES) will take on the role of Richard Parker. Julianne Nicholson is currently in talks to play Peter's mother, Mary. The webslinger's parents rarely make appearances in the comics and have never graced the big screen. No word on if they will be there in the flesh or in flashbacks.

Now here's where it gets a bit interesting. Irrfan Khan (SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE) will be playing a villain called "Van Atter". I think this is either a typo from Heat Vision or a horrible code name. There is a villain called "Nels Van Adder", also know as Proto-Goblin. Before I go into what I dug up, Annie Parisse (RUBICON) will play the villain's wife.

Okay, so when I realized it was most likely "Van Adder" a bell rang in my head. The issue Adder appears in came out around the time that I was watching the SPIDER-MAN animated series on FOX and lusting after Parker. This year was 1997, the comic was titled, "Peter Parker: Spider-Man". It was the first issue.

Here's what I found about Adder courtesy of the awesome comic boys who contribute their knowledge that no one can keep up with on the internet:

"It was revealed that soon after Norman had Stromm arrested for embezzlement, he had found only a portion of the notes detailing his partner's serum. Norman tests the incomplete version of the serum on an Oscorp employee named Nels Van Adder, driving Van Adder slowly insane and beginning his transformation into a red, demon-like being known as the "Proto-Goblin". Killing several people and blaming Norman for what has happened to him, Adder proceeds to harass and later attempts to kill him before being knocked out a window in Oscorp by Arthur and George Stacy and fleeing into the wild. In order to escape conviction for what he had done to Van Adder, Norman convinces the police that Van Adder had been experimenting on himself, and that he had secretly been trying to help him. Van Adder's current fate remains unrevealed. As well as endowing Adder with super strength and agility, the Goblin Serum also gave him large claws, talons, fangs, glowing green eyes, and near impenetrable skin (capable of withstanding several close range bullet shots)."

If you want the more detailed version, go here.

I've also provided a pic of Adder which looks nothing like Khan.

Extra Tidbit: P.S. Lizard was never confirmed as the villain. All The Wrap said when they debuted the news on the internet was, "we learned exclusively". Sony has never come out and agreed with them. Unless I missed a press release a some point...
Source: Heat Vision

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5:25PM on 12/03/2010

*SIGH*

Im just glad Robert Pattinson isnt playing the villain...
Im just glad Robert Pattinson isnt playing the villain...
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5:28PM on 12/03/2010
Could work using a lesser known villain to start. Killing him off wont effect future stories like say killing off Norman Osborne and Otto Octavius.
Could work using a lesser known villain to start. Killing him off wont effect future stories like say killing off Norman Osborne and Otto Octavius.
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5:28PM on 12/03/2010

A slight correction

Earth-616 = Main universe seen in most Marvel comics. Differences between universes are usually described in comparison with Earth-616.
Earth-1218 = The reality where we all live and think these other realities are just something comic writers came up with.
Earth-616 = Main universe seen in most Marvel comics. Differences between universes are usually described in comparison with Earth-616.
Earth-1218 = The reality where we all live and think these other realities are just something comic writers came up with.
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5:48PM on 12/03/2010
Thank you kind sir. After all these years of reading, I am finally learning the difference between the Earths. Your definition is a lot simpler than my own. :)
Thank you kind sir. After all these years of reading, I am finally learning the difference between the Earths. Your definition is a lot simpler than my own. :)
5:34PM on 12/03/2010
Sounds like an absolute clusterfuck. His parents? Yeah, why not? Let's have flashbacks to when Peter was a baby and his parents were still alive. And then later, we can have flashbacks to Uncle Ben's murder. And flashbacks to the time Aunt May told Peter to wrap up warm.

Between this and Joe Quesada's mule-headed 'One More Day' idiocy, it looks like Spidey is buggered for the foreseeable future.
Sounds like an absolute clusterfuck. His parents? Yeah, why not? Let's have flashbacks to when Peter was a baby and his parents were still alive. And then later, we can have flashbacks to Uncle Ben's murder. And flashbacks to the time Aunt May told Peter to wrap up warm.

Between this and Joe Quesada's mule-headed 'One More Day' idiocy, it looks like Spidey is buggered for the foreseeable future.
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5:43PM on 12/03/2010
At least this will be better than the musical, but really that's like saying having your left testicle hit with a hammer is better than having the right one hit, it's not very reassuring.
At least this will be better than the musical, but really that's like saying having your left testicle hit with a hammer is better than having the right one hit, it's not very reassuring.
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5:48PM on 12/03/2010
Yeah when you throw in all that stuff about earth numbers of course it's going to sound like a cluster fuck. Basically it just sounds like they're trying to use the Goblin without using the one from the Raimi movies. Though why they would go this route instead of Hobgoblin is baffling... Unless this is Hobgoblin and they're just combining elements of him with this other dude. I'd be fine I think with either Lizard or Hobgoblin, unless of course he rides around on a hoverboard and wears a
Yeah when you throw in all that stuff about earth numbers of course it's going to sound like a cluster fuck. Basically it just sounds like they're trying to use the Goblin without using the one from the Raimi movies. Though why they would go this route instead of Hobgoblin is baffling... Unless this is Hobgoblin and they're just combining elements of him with this other dude. I'd be fine I think with either Lizard or Hobgoblin, unless of course he rides around on a hoverboard and wears a rugby outfit.
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5:52PM on 12/03/2010
Fun fact of the day: Campbell Scott is fucking awesome.
Fun fact of the day: Campbell Scott is fucking awesome.
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5:54PM on 12/03/2010
This is absolutely insane. I will not watch this movie. I will also reiterate my idea of boycotting all Marvel superhero movies that are not made by Marvel Studios. Screw you Sony.
This is absolutely insane. I will not watch this movie. I will also reiterate my idea of boycotting all Marvel superhero movies that are not made by Marvel Studios. Screw you Sony.
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6:05PM on 12/03/2010
I've never heard of Proto-Goblin, but I'm pretty sure he's in this so they can set-up the Green Goblin for the sequel.
I've never heard of Proto-Goblin, but I'm pretty sure he's in this so they can set-up the Green Goblin for the sequel.
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6:13PM on 12/03/2010

Are we having a party? I see a lot of whine!

This movie is happening like it or not, and you'll all see it just to bitch some more about how Tobey Maguire was king.

This news sounds fantastic, I can't wait. You can't argue with Campbell Scott!
This movie is happening like it or not, and you'll all see it just to bitch some more about how Tobey Maguire was king.

This news sounds fantastic, I can't wait. You can't argue with Campbell Scott!
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6:07AM on 12/04/2010
"I see a lot of whine!"

Holy fuckery, but that's rich, coming from you of all people. Nine times out of ten, you make *me* look like Mister Happytwat.
"I see a lot of whine!"

Holy fuckery, but that's rich, coming from you of all people. Nine times out of ten, you make *me* look like Mister Happytwat.
7:42PM on 12/03/2010
I can't tell if you were being serious about Tobey. I for one have never liked any of the Spider-Man films. I could not stand Tobey at all and I'm pretty sure nobady ever cared about snaggle tooth as MJ. I'm actually looking forward to this one.
I can't tell if you were being serious about Tobey. I for one have never liked any of the Spider-Man films. I could not stand Tobey at all and I'm pretty sure nobady ever cared about snaggle tooth as MJ. I'm actually looking forward to this one.
6:36PM on 12/03/2010

Done!

Well, I can see that this movie is going exactly where I don't want to. So...

I'm done with Spidey.
Well, I can see that this movie is going exactly where I don't want to. So...

I'm done with Spidey.
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6:40PM on 12/03/2010

Why?

Why are they using ANY sort of Goblin again so soon? It's literally a rehash. No Green Goblin, No Proto-Goblin, No Hobgoblin. How about something new?
Why are they using ANY sort of Goblin again so soon? It's literally a rehash. No Green Goblin, No Proto-Goblin, No Hobgoblin. How about something new?
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6:59PM on 12/03/2010
I was kind of looking forward to this movie because it was only going to have one villain. How stupid was I to think it would stay that way? Of course they're adding more.
I was kind of looking forward to this movie because it was only going to have one villain. How stupid was I to think it would stay that way? Of course they're adding more.
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7:30PM on 12/03/2010
Since Sam Raimi's first Spider-man, i 've always been a little unsatisfied by his origin approach: MJ and H.Osborn being friends with P.Parker in highschool was just one of few serious diverted details (original: Parker met H.Osborn and G.Stacy in university and aunt May introduced MJ to Parker later on). I 've always been interested on the 60's origin story and i have a feeling that the new movie will be a lot of that since we have gwen stacy and YES Parker's biological parents, which is very
Since Sam Raimi's first Spider-man, i 've always been a little unsatisfied by his origin approach: MJ and H.Osborn being friends with P.Parker in highschool was just one of few serious diverted details (original: Parker met H.Osborn and G.Stacy in university and aunt May introduced MJ to Parker later on). I 've always been interested on the 60's origin story and i have a feeling that the new movie will be a lot of that since we have gwen stacy and YES Parker's biological parents, which is very cool since they were SHIELD agents and who knows maybe the new Spider-man franchise will be more expanded and more true to the whole Marvel Universe (like Iron Man, Cpt America, Thor, Avengers, Hulk etc.)... And as for the rumored villain, from one point of view it's interesting exploring b-list villains (althouth the actor's choise is inaccurate) but from the other hand i'd like to see someone from the early years such as the "Spider-Slayers" or someone from the "Sinister Six" (and the whole gang wouldn't be a problem :). And i wish, at least, "The Lizard" rumor will come true...
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8:32PM on 12/03/2010
I gotta tell you, the guy who's gonna play Van Atter is pretty creepy in human form, in a demon like form should be uglier than the shutter girl jaja at least there is an unknown villain that will took people by surprise.. About peter parents you can't blame the studio for use any shit they have in their pocket to make all this reboot thing to sound completely "new". I didn't like the idea of the reboot and I still don't like it, but no one can tell me that is not going to watch the movie, and
I gotta tell you, the guy who's gonna play Van Atter is pretty creepy in human form, in a demon like form should be uglier than the shutter girl jaja at least there is an unknown villain that will took people by surprise.. About peter parents you can't blame the studio for use any shit they have in their pocket to make all this reboot thing to sound completely "new". I didn't like the idea of the reboot and I still don't like it, but no one can tell me that is not going to watch the movie, and if Andrew Garfield gets an oscar nomination for the facebook movie expect all the "academy award nominated Andrew Garfield as spiderman" shit and that.. yeah is the end of the world as we know it..
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8:38PM on 12/03/2010
Pete's mom is kinda cute... but I'm still unsure on this. I'm not against this project but I'm not quite for it yet either. Proto-Goblin actually sounds kinda cool and it would lead to a new version of the Green Goblin. As long as it's just him. I don't want a proto-goblin/Lizard team up because I really don't think The Lizard belongs in an origin film.
Pete's mom is kinda cute... but I'm still unsure on this. I'm not against this project but I'm not quite for it yet either. Proto-Goblin actually sounds kinda cool and it would lead to a new version of the Green Goblin. As long as it's just him. I don't want a proto-goblin/Lizard team up because I really don't think The Lizard belongs in an origin film.
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8:51PM on 12/03/2010
Campbell Scott is an amazing actor in Rodger Dodger and Irrfan Khan is also very good. Don't know about the two women but the way this movie is shaping up, I'm sure they will be very good.

I'm just curious, does this mean that Rhys Ifans is out? Will he take a backseat and become the major villain in the sequel? I'm a bit sad because I was hoping to see Ifans as the villain but I guess Lizard is a character you need to know BEFORE he transforms so it wouldn't make sense to have him be the
Campbell Scott is an amazing actor in Rodger Dodger and Irrfan Khan is also very good. Don't know about the two women but the way this movie is shaping up, I'm sure they will be very good.

I'm just curious, does this mean that Rhys Ifans is out? Will he take a backseat and become the major villain in the sequel? I'm a bit sad because I was hoping to see Ifans as the villain but I guess Lizard is a character you need to know BEFORE he transforms so it wouldn't make sense to have him be the villain in the first film.

Also guys, keep this in mind. The article did NOT say that this proto-Goblin thing was definitely happening. Nor did it say that there will be more than one villain. Just thought I'd clarify for those below.

I do hope they have this film streamlined. Don't have too many side plots or villains. Keep things simple and I'm sure this movie will be fine.
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10:01PM on 12/03/2010

i dont know what it is but

Peter's mother is really doin it for me. i like her
Peter's mother is really doin it for me. i like her
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12:06AM on 12/04/2010
Parkers parents showed up via flashback in Ultimate Spiderman in the 1st venom arc of the series. Peters dad was the scientist who developed the stuff that eventually becomes Venom. Sounds like this emo piece of crap is going nowhere with that story so sounds like they are making shit up as they go. This movie will suck so bad i cant wait! But it will still make a ton of money since people go see shit just because they can.
Parkers parents showed up via flashback in Ultimate Spiderman in the 1st venom arc of the series. Peters dad was the scientist who developed the stuff that eventually becomes Venom. Sounds like this emo piece of crap is going nowhere with that story so sounds like they are making shit up as they go. This movie will suck so bad i cant wait! But it will still make a ton of money since people go see shit just because they can.
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3:06AM on 12/04/2010

more craptastic by the day

this is all of you who whined about spidey 3s fault, sure was the worst of the series but u dont c a pirates reboot even though 2 and 3 sucked anus
this is all of you who whined about spidey 3s fault, sure was the worst of the series but u dont c a pirates reboot even though 2 and 3 sucked anus
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4:10AM on 12/04/2010
This just went from possibly being good to eipc fail!
This just went from possibly being good to eipc fail!
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8:06AM on 12/04/2010

Oh for fu*k's sake!

No more f**kin' goblins, man! Enough already. Can't they think of ANY other villains? No Green, Hob, Proto, Happy, Angry, Sleepy, or Horny Goblins! Geez...*huff huff huff pant pant pant*
No more f**kin' goblins, man! Enough already. Can't they think of ANY other villains? No Green, Hob, Proto, Happy, Angry, Sleepy, or Horny Goblins! Geez...*huff huff huff pant pant pant*
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7:26AM on 12/06/2010
I hope no Sony exec is reading this....you having given them enough material for another 6 or so movies! :D

I woul dlove to see Horny Goblin though, that could be in the inevitable Spider-Man porno.
I hope no Sony exec is reading this....you having given them enough material for another 6 or so movies! :D

I woul dlove to see Horny Goblin though, that could be in the inevitable Spider-Man porno.
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1:33PM on 12/04/2010

This is gonna blow

I really just give up on the Spider-Man movies.
I really just give up on the Spider-Man movies.
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2:22PM on 12/04/2010
Look at Campbell Scott! Wouldn't you much rather have him as a villian?
Look at Campbell Scott! Wouldn't you much rather have him as a villian?
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3:17PM on 12/04/2010

Haters

God, at least wait for a trailer before you start tearing this movie down, for fucks sake!

Go back 20 or 30 years, when all there were in the way of comic material on film was 60's Batman on TV, 70's Hulk on TV, an awful live-action Spider-man show, and awful live action Captain America movie. These things had plots that just tangentially related to actual comic stories, in some cases featured few if any villains from the books, and were made with zero budget or production values.

Just
God, at least wait for a trailer before you start tearing this movie down, for fucks sake!

Go back 20 or 30 years, when all there were in the way of comic material on film was 60's Batman on TV, 70's Hulk on TV, an awful live-action Spider-man show, and awful live action Captain America movie. These things had plots that just tangentially related to actual comic stories, in some cases featured few if any villains from the books, and were made with zero budget or production values.

Just coming out and saying something is going to SUCK because you A) hate the idea of a reboot, or B) just hate the character in general, in the absence of a trailer or even a single production still from the film just shows how fucking spoiled fanboys are today.
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3:50PM on 12/04/2010
So who's Bruce Campbell gonna play?
So who's Bruce Campbell gonna play?
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6:25PM on 12/04/2010
So I guess there is at least one major player to be cast Norman Osborn.
So I guess there is at least one major player to be cast Norman Osborn.
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8:44PM on 12/04/2010

Wha?

What the hell? I've been reading the books forever and don't know what the hell they're talking about. I thought it was something "Ultimate" because I refuse to read that crap. Proto-Goblin? With THE best rogue gallery of any literary character EVER they can't be tapping any Proto-Goblin. Maybe it's just a character name nod to psycho fans.

How they handle any parent flashbacks will be a key and actually quite interesting.
What the hell? I've been reading the books forever and don't know what the hell they're talking about. I thought it was something "Ultimate" because I refuse to read that crap. Proto-Goblin? With THE best rogue gallery of any literary character EVER they can't be tapping any Proto-Goblin. Maybe it's just a character name nod to psycho fans.

How they handle any parent flashbacks will be a key and actually quite interesting.
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10:29PM on 12/04/2010
Second best, sorry.
Second best, sorry.
9:53PM on 12/04/2010
Fuck this reboot.

Spider Man 3 will be better than this crap.
Fuck this reboot.

Spider Man 3 will be better than this crap.
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11:24PM on 12/04/2010
you lost me at peter has parents
you lost me at peter has parents
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6:25AM on 12/05/2010

Whut

Okay, I've been a pretty big defender of this movie for a while, but this sounds absolutely terrible. Nothing good has ever come out of exploring what happened to Peter's parents. The whole appeal of Peter is that he's a totally average, down on his luck kid who stumbles into some superpowers. He loses the average kid charm when you start saying his parents were actually secret agents who fought the Red Skull (yes, that happened. I didn't make it up). And even if that's not what they plan to
Okay, I've been a pretty big defender of this movie for a while, but this sounds absolutely terrible. Nothing good has ever come out of exploring what happened to Peter's parents. The whole appeal of Peter is that he's a totally average, down on his luck kid who stumbles into some superpowers. He loses the average kid charm when you start saying his parents were actually secret agents who fought the Red Skull (yes, that happened. I didn't make it up). And even if that's not what they plan to use them for in this movie, they are completely irrelevant to Peter's character. There's nothing to gain by focusing on them. Peter's life was shaped by the people who raised him, Aunt May and Uncle Ben, and it was their values that drove Spider-man to use his powers to help people.

And as for Proto-Goblin, I can't even begin to fathom why anyone would think he should be a villain in this movie. I can recall a ton of background info from the comics off the top of my head and I had to look this guy up. Why use such a nobody? The only reason I could think of would be if they wanted the Green Goblin but some executive didn't want them to re-use any villains from the Raimi films, but if that's the case then why not use Hobgoblin? At least people have heard of him!

But hey, maybe this Van Adder guy just has a small, non-superpowered role, like Mendel Stromm did in the first movie. I dunno.
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2:36PM on 12/05/2010
Face the facts everyone. Spider Man was dead the day Sam Raimi cast Tobey Maguire. The Spider Man movie franchise was and will always stay a pile of filth.
Face the facts everyone. Spider Man was dead the day Sam Raimi cast Tobey Maguire. The Spider Man movie franchise was and will always stay a pile of filth.
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9:41PM on 12/05/2010
Wow dude, even if you don't like Maguire, just seeing Spidey on screen was awesome. There are millions of people who will disagree with you. There are a lot more super hero movies that are crap compared to Spider-Man.
Wow dude, even if you don't like Maguire, just seeing Spidey on screen was awesome. There are millions of people who will disagree with you. There are a lot more super hero movies that are crap compared to Spider-Man.
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