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by: Mike Sampson Dec. 17, 2009

Not sure what to make of this news but IESB is reporting that SPIDER-MAN 4 has been put on hold indefinitely at Sony Pictures. According to IESB's sources, production heads were notified late last week about the delays. They claim that they key sticking point is once again a battle between Sam Raimi and the studio over the film's villain. As you may have read, Raimi wants Vulture (and Vulturess?) as the villains in the film but Sony allegedly is having a problem with that decision. Who do they want? IESB says that the Sony execs don't even really have a viable alternative, they just know they don't want Vulture.

So what now? Well the holidays are fast approaching and it's very likely that any work on the film would be halted anyway. It's entirely possible that Raimi and Sony are having disagreements (they certainly did with SPIDER-MAN 3 where Raimi wanted Vulture over Venom) and that they'll take the next few weeks to hammer out the finer details.

While I know IESB has solid sources, let's hope this is just getting blown out of proportions and things will get back on track shortly. Or not. Call me crazy but I was never really all that excited about a SPIDER-MAN 4 anyway...

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Extra Tidbit: I've never loved any of the SPIDER-MAN films.

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KristonBlazer
8:52PM on 12/21/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
time to bring in michael bay. yes, i'm joking.
time to bring in michael bay. yes, i'm joking.
 
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Chess007
10:14PM on 12/19/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Sony needs to sit down and shut the f@#k up. Raimi could use the Hypno-Hustler and I'd go see it if he said the villain was his pick. Sony and Venon completely f'ed Spider-man 3. Worst sequel ever, even above Pirates 3.
Sony needs to sit down and shut the f@#k up. Raimi could use the Hypno-Hustler and I'd go see it if he said the villain was his pick. Sony and Venon completely f'ed Spider-man 3. Worst sequel ever, even above Pirates 3.
 
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UrbanLenny
2:31AM on 12/19/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
I hate when people say raimi fucked up spiderman 3 because of the studio interfering. what so he acted like a baby and threw his toy down and broke it because he didn't get his way? get fuckin for real. And Im with you I never liked any of the 3 all that much. If anything the first two were on par with the 3rd.
I hate when people say raimi fucked up spiderman 3 because of the studio interfering. what so he acted like a baby and threw his toy down and broke it because he didn't get his way? get fuckin for real. And Im with you I never liked any of the 3 all that much. If anything the first two were on par with the 3rd.
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brechtsky
1:03AM on 12/20/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
great analogy ... he should have just walked away instead of doing it for the money, and then pissing and whining for the last three years about how they screwed it up.
great analogy ... he should have just walked away instead of doing it for the money, and then pissing and whining for the last three years about how they screwed it up.
 
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Weird_Kitty_Cat
4:50PM on 12/18/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
I'm with DOLBYDIGITAL on this. If you don't trust your director, then you're going to end up with a terrible movie.



-Endless
I'm with DOLBYDIGITAL on this. If you don't trust your director, then you're going to end up with a terrible movie.



-Endless
 
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DOLBY DIGITAL
9:46AM on 12/18/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Thank god for small favors
The studio Fucked with Spider-Man 3 and look what happened. I am convinced that Raimi pulled a Prince and intentionally made a shit movie. Why do the studio suits think they know more than the creative talent? Fuckers! Iron Man 2 looks to wipe away any bad memories of Spider-Man 3.
The studio Fucked with Spider-Man 3 and look what happened. I am convinced that Raimi pulled a Prince and intentionally made a shit movie. Why do the studio suits think they know more than the creative talent? Fuckers! Iron Man 2 looks to wipe away any bad memories of Spider-Man 3.
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brechtsky
1:10AM on 12/20/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
if you are right and he did intentionally screw up, and yet you STILL want him to direct part 4 ... youre a friggin fanboy moron... Spiderman isn't, and clearly should NOT be his own personal arthouse-- and responding like a spoiled brat and half-assing the last film is pathetic. Its one of the biggest franchises and longest lasting, most iconic characters of all time, and if he cant figure out...
if you are right and he did intentionally screw up, and yet you STILL want him to direct part 4 ... youre a friggin fanboy moron... Spiderman isn't, and clearly should NOT be his own personal arthouse-- and responding like a spoiled brat and half-assing the last film is pathetic. Its one of the biggest franchises and longest lasting, most iconic characters of all time, and if he cant figure out its not his intellectual property, he should go direct another POS like Gift or DMTH... maybe he can work in some more gross-outs involving embalming fluid.
 
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martinphipps
5:38AM on 12/18/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
It looks as though
there isn't even a script at this point. The studio doesn't want the Lizard or the Vulture but it seems as though the Vulture is being used to introduce Felicia Hardy so she can come back as the Black Cat in the next film. I'm hoping that this is all either rumour, something blown out of proportion or deliberate misdirection. (It is likely that there is a script already and that the other...
there isn't even a script at this point. The studio doesn't want the Lizard or the Vulture but it seems as though the Vulture is being used to introduce Felicia Hardy so she can come back as the Black Cat in the next film. I'm hoping that this is all either rumour, something blown out of proportion or deliberate misdirection. (It is likely that there is a script already and that the other villains are the Lizard and Kraven but the studio wants to keep this a secret to avoid negative "too many villains" stories.)



Martin
 
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KungFu-Mummy
2:37AM on 12/18/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Mike Sampson
Mike keep you're Extra Tidbits to your self! And PuffCity thinks a movie based on childrens comic book is too cheesey! What were you expecting, it's a movie about a guy who dresses up and climbs walls!!!
Mike keep you're Extra Tidbits to your self! And PuffCity thinks a movie based on childrens comic book is too cheesey! What were you expecting, it's a movie about a guy who dresses up and climbs walls!!!
 
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UrbanLenny
2:05AM on 12/18/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Raimi doesnt want what song whats and sony doesnt want what raimi wants. why cant we get no raimi and no sony for this spiderman
Raimi doesnt want what song whats and sony doesnt want what raimi wants. why cant we get no raimi and no sony for this spiderman
 
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gr689
11:25PM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Sony
Does anyone know when Marvel can get the rights back from Sony for Spiderman films? I'd love to know when. I thought I remember hearing like 2015 or something. Wouldn't it be great to have Spiderman Cameos in a ton of Marvels new movies, it would be ingenious, especially since they are all being so (not great) decently written. I thought Ironman was great and Incredible Hulk was pretty good in...
Does anyone know when Marvel can get the rights back from Sony for Spiderman films? I'd love to know when. I thought I remember hearing like 2015 or something. Wouldn't it be great to have Spiderman Cameos in a ton of Marvels new movies, it would be ingenious, especially since they are all being so (not great) decently written. I thought Ironman was great and Incredible Hulk was pretty good in the movies too.
 
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VitamanMan8
11:21PM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
If it's just because of the vulture, I'm very okay with the delay. But if Marvel f's up another one of these movies like they did with 3, I'll be PISSED.
If it's just because of the vulture, I'm very okay with the delay. But if Marvel f's up another one of these movies like they did with 3, I'll be PISSED.
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Aba-DaBa-Tua
12:08AM on 12/18/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
MARVEL does not have any say in the Spiderman films, that'd be Sony.
MARVEL does not have any say in the Spiderman films, that'd be Sony.
 
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anomaly7
8:18PM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
I thought the vulture/vultress idea was bad, so I'm glad that at least the script will get a re-write. I'm sick of all the haters for Raimi and his spiderman films. Behind Nolan's batman films, it still remains the 2nd best superhero franchise.
I thought the vulture/vultress idea was bad, so I'm glad that at least the script will get a re-write. I'm sick of all the haters for Raimi and his spiderman films. Behind Nolan's batman films, it still remains the 2nd best superhero franchise.
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Aba-DaBa-Tua
12:06AM on 12/18/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
That is until Iron Man 2 comes out and Iron Man becomes the second best Superhero Franchise.
That is until Iron Man 2 comes out and Iron Man becomes the second best Superhero Franchise.
 
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PuffCity
7:50PM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
I agree with Mike Sampson. I loved Spider-man as a kid and the movies were at best average (they are pure cheese). I have no idea how Spider-man 2 was on a bunch of top ten lists on this very site, its a very cheesy movie that is basically the first movie with more polish.



I am still looking forward to another Spider-man movie because I loved the characters of that universe....
I agree with Mike Sampson. I loved Spider-man as a kid and the movies were at best average (they are pure cheese). I have no idea how Spider-man 2 was on a bunch of top ten lists on this very site, its a very cheesy movie that is basically the first movie with more polish.



I am still looking forward to another Spider-man movie because I loved the characters of that universe. However, Sam Raimi sucks and I personally think hes the reason why the movies are so 'not good'. He loves doing rewrites on the scripts and adding more useless Mary Jane drama that no one wants.

I'm loving this news as I'm hoping the studio fires Sam Raimi.
 
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brechtsky
5:16PM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
sony denies this
According to AICN, sony has officially denied this.
According to AICN, sony has officially denied this.
 
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snootch2nootch
4:59PM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Dear Mike Sampson...
"I've never loved any of the SPIDER-MAN films."



You once again continue your streak of having the second worst opinions on this site.



On the actual news, people blow things out of proportions. Spidey is a billion dollar franchise for Sony, they want to go in with the best story as possible...so taking time to rework ideas have become something .. bad? only in fan...
"I've never loved any of the SPIDER-MAN films."



You once again continue your streak of having the second worst opinions on this site.



On the actual news, people blow things out of proportions. Spidey is a billion dollar franchise for Sony, they want to go in with the best story as possible...so taking time to rework ideas have become something .. bad? only in fan boy world, you people are losers.
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alexskelton
5:26PM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
biggest tool comment i've seen today.
spiderman1 was formulaic and the villian was shitawful.
spiderman 2 was the highpoint, and it doesnt come close to TDK, Begins, or even Iron Man, which had no goddamn script.
and Spiderman 3? go ahead, defend it. i dare you.
but hey, i welcome a reply, you've got your own streak of pointless drivel to keep up it would appear.
biggest tool comment i've seen today.
spiderman1 was formulaic and the villian was shitawful.
spiderman 2 was the highpoint, and it doesnt come close to TDK, Begins, or even Iron Man, which had no goddamn script.
and Spiderman 3? go ahead, defend it. i dare you.
but hey, i welcome a reply, you've got your own streak of pointless drivel to keep up it would appear.
 
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Ayestrain
3:04PM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Word was the studio didn't want Lizard either. Who do they want? According to the article, whomever's "selling" right now. In the core Spidey books, they've upset the continuity and introduced many one-off novelty villains, as well as brought back off-beat ones like The Spot and White Rabbit. So who's selling?



The only bad guys worth seeing at this point IMO are Electro,...
Word was the studio didn't want Lizard either. Who do they want? According to the article, whomever's "selling" right now. In the core Spidey books, they've upset the continuity and introduced many one-off novelty villains, as well as brought back off-beat ones like The Spot and White Rabbit. So who's selling?



The only bad guys worth seeing at this point IMO are Electro, Scorpion or Mysterio.



The Spidey flicks have the potential to be great, but when you mix a meddling, quasi-ignorant movie studio conglomerate with someone like Raimi who wants to follow their vision (whether it's what fans want or not), you have problems. For God's sake let the right revert back to Marvel for the films, so we can get some decent Spider-man movies.
 
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jolanar
2:35PM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
I think the execs may actually be right in this occasion.
I think the execs may actually be right in this occasion.
 
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brechtsky
1:48PM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
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I have the best idea for new spiderman sequels (two or three)-- really far and away the best new superhero idea in a LONG while, IMO.



And most importantly, maybe they'll finally recast Mopey Maguire if it takes long enough.
I have the best idea for new spiderman sequels (two or three)-- really far and away the best new superhero idea in a LONG while, IMO.



And most importantly, maybe they'll finally recast Mopey Maguire if it takes long enough.
 
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gr689
1:37PM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
REBOOT
Just wait a few years and Reboot the series. I liked part one and two a bit but the story lines just really weren't that good. Spiderman is my ultimate favorite comic character all time and I think they didn't work on any of the stories for any of the movies as well as they could have. Christian Bail may be a hard ass on film sets and wouldn't make The Dark Knight unless it could have been in a...
Just wait a few years and Reboot the series. I liked part one and two a bit but the story lines just really weren't that good. Spiderman is my ultimate favorite comic character all time and I think they didn't work on any of the stories for any of the movies as well as they could have. Christian Bail may be a hard ass on film sets and wouldn't make The Dark Knight unless it could have been in a play on a stage with no special effects, meaning the story has to be great; How pompass of him!! No, truly he is correct they should do this with all films especially the caliber of these major motion pictures. Then again I might just be a hard ass Spiderman film critic and nothing will suffice. But I was never really that happy with any of the films maybe with the exception to part 1. I waited for this movie to get made since I was a kid of about 14 or so, I'm 32 now. I remember reading in Wizard Magazine how James Cameron and everyone else involved were going through litigation, it was the only place to get this sort of news about comic book movies other than Starlog(I think). It was on and off again many many times over. I'm betting the next Spidey film will be in 3-D. I bet my bottom dollar.

When it comes down to it, I think they should reboot, kick Mary Jane to the curb and do like a young Spiderman just starting out and he won't see MJ again until years later. It will add a better dynamic. My Opinion
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gr689
11:22PM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
I don't blame Dunst; I think she's a great actor. I blame the character(s) and how they were written. I like MJ in the comics but in the movies MJ is just in the way. The storlines in the movie were very silly, I know its a movie based on a comic book and I'm not going to say "darken" the movie like the dark knight but it needs to be fresh with fresh plots; not just bad guy shows up and good gu...
I don't blame Dunst; I think she's a great actor. I blame the character(s) and how they were written. I like MJ in the comics but in the movies MJ is just in the way. The storlines in the movie were very silly, I know its a movie based on a comic book and I'm not going to say "darken" the movie like the dark knight but it needs to be fresh with fresh plots; not just bad guy shows up and good guy beats bad guy. Maybe at the end of one of the movies we get spiderman to get beaten and he quits like in the comics. I know they did that in one of them but it was for like a second. Maybe then let it flash forward to a little older spiderman and he's finally comes back in the second act or something I don't know but the scripts blew really really hard. I think everyone was just soo excited to see Spiderman on film that it just being ok with great special effects were good enough and everyone says its great. I'm sorry but I never thought so. Story story story characters characters characters, very important. How Raimi built Harry Osbornes character up didn't resonate with me and it wasn't powerful enough. It seemed like he was mad for no reason; you want to feel that characters pain and I certainly didn't, it was dumb. They should move on, but sony won't
 
brechtsky
1:54PM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
i think its funny that everyone pegs dunst as such a huge problem, considering her simple part and importance is more minor with each film.

People dont really seem to have a tangible complaint either, they dont like her teeth, face, or "acting" but beyond that, specifics escape most of them.
i think its funny that everyone pegs dunst as such a huge problem, considering her simple part and importance is more minor with each film.

People dont really seem to have a tangible complaint either, they dont like her teeth, face, or "acting" but beyond that, specifics escape most of them.
 
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Justinvsky1
1:28PM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Interesting....
Could the Tobey Hobbit rumors actually be true??
Could the Tobey Hobbit rumors actually be true??
 
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SkyNet
12:37PM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
i have liked all 3 Spider Man flicks... the second being the best, and the third without a doubt being the worst... everyone knows that Raime didnt want to introduce Venom in the third flick, and the third flick was pretty bad... i say the studio actually listen to the fucking creative talent on the flick and let raime do his thing, he is obviously good at it!
i have liked all 3 Spider Man flicks... the second being the best, and the third without a doubt being the worst... everyone knows that Raime didnt want to introduce Venom in the third flick, and the third flick was pretty bad... i say the studio actually listen to the fucking creative talent on the flick and let raime do his thing, he is obviously good at it!
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BuckNasty1138
5:16PM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Perhaps Raimi didn't want Venom thrown into there, but how do you explain the rest of the crap in that film. Venom wasn't anywhere near the worse part of that film. Did you forget about the numerous musical numbers and godawful dialogue?
Perhaps Raimi didn't want Venom thrown into there, but how do you explain the rest of the crap in that film. Venom wasn't anywhere near the worse part of that film. Did you forget about the numerous musical numbers and godawful dialogue?
 
brechtsky
1:49PM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
no one forced him to make the film, if he wasnt happy he should have quit ... once his name is on it, its HIS fault.

But I agree 2 is the best, 3 clearly the worst.
no one forced him to make the film, if he wasnt happy he should have quit ... once his name is on it, its HIS fault.

But I agree 2 is the best, 3 clearly the worst.
 
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cricker
12:27PM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
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Lets hope this lasts long enough to they realize macguire is a panzy and all he does is make Spiderman appear to be a baby who cries alot (and badly) and looks like a guy stright out the math club and then maybe they wont gear this movie to 12 year olds, take a cue from the dark knight, being a grown up isnt half bad.
Lets hope this lasts long enough to they realize macguire is a panzy and all he does is make Spiderman appear to be a baby who cries alot (and badly) and looks like a guy stright out the math club and then maybe they wont gear this movie to 12 year olds, take a cue from the dark knight, being a grown up isnt half bad.
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JimmyArrow
1:14PM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
It's pretty simple: if you don't ask an actor to cry, he won't do it! And Spider-man IS a geek!
It's pretty simple: if you don't ask an actor to cry, he won't do it! And Spider-man IS a geek!
 
Neon October
12:43PM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
I may not be the biggest Macguire fan, but I think I'm reasonable enough to know that Spidey is suppose to be the Math Club geek.

Also, Spider-Man and most classic comic book characters are for all ages when you strip it down to its core. Do not pretend you didn't watch the Spidey cartoons.
I may not be the biggest Macguire fan, but I think I'm reasonable enough to know that Spidey is suppose to be the Math Club geek.

Also, Spider-Man and most classic comic book characters are for all ages when you strip it down to its core. Do not pretend you didn't watch the Spidey cartoons.
 
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JokerJonWaugh
11:32AM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Well
That's dissapointing....
That's dissapointing....
 
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kieliaowe
11:31AM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
KRAVEN/ LIZARD MAN
OK, here's my thoughts. If you want a viable villian get one that the fans have been asking for since Spiderman2, Doc Connors/Lizard Man. Don't necessarily have him as a terrible villian, make him more ... misunderstood like the Hulk when he's portrayed as a villian. This is where Kraven comes in. Have the Lizard Man reek havok through out the film as well as introduce Kraven at the beginning...
OK, here's my thoughts. If you want a viable villian get one that the fans have been asking for since Spiderman2, Doc Connors/Lizard Man. Don't necessarily have him as a terrible villian, make him more ... misunderstood like the Hulk when he's portrayed as a villian. This is where Kraven comes in. Have the Lizard Man reek havok through out the film as well as introduce Kraven at the beginning as a game hunter... Make Kraven really cool but obsessed with hunting. Spiderman would then have to protect Lizard Man from Kraven but protect the public from Lizard Man at the same time. Having 2 villians centered in a movie generally doesn't work unless there is a plot connection between the two of them and as much as I'd like to see Bruce Campbell be Mysterio it just wouldn't make as much of an impact for me. The same thing goes with the Vulture. I will admit that he would be a cool villian but after Spiderman 3 and the poor taste that it left in alot of people's mouthes... They should really try and impress the audience with a coherant and reliable story. NOT something that has 2 plots coexisting at the same time that make no sense at all.
 
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Donnie_Darko
11:14AM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Spidey 4 delayed so they can make it 3D? That's what I was expecting.
Spidey 4 delayed so they can make it 3D? That's what I was expecting.
 
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X-KID
11:13AM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
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I would have prefered Vulture over Venom in Spiderman 3, Raimi pretty much owns the franchise just let him due what he did with Spiderman 2.
I would have prefered Vulture over Venom in Spiderman 3, Raimi pretty much owns the franchise just let him due what he did with Spiderman 2.
 
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Doctor Supertramp
11:11AM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Great!!!
Terrific. This just killed any hope and excitment I had for Spiderman 4.



You guys are kidding. Its way to early to reboot. I'd be okay with a new director. I'm not sure Raimi can handle the load anymore. What's so great about Vulture?
Terrific. This just killed any hope and excitment I had for Spiderman 4.



You guys are kidding. Its way to early to reboot. I'd be okay with a new director. I'm not sure Raimi can handle the load anymore. What's so great about Vulture?
 
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powerbomb1411
11:10AM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Oh yeah, now after Spider-Man 3, everyone joins the "I Hate Spider-Man" bandwagon, I see how it works. I've been hating these movies a little after the second once once I started reading the books I noticed the missing elements that he had even in the cartoons as I grew up. It's not to say he's dumb, but compared to what he should be, he qualify's to have a disability for being mentally...
Oh yeah, now after Spider-Man 3, everyone joins the "I Hate Spider-Man" bandwagon, I see how it works. I've been hating these movies a little after the second once once I started reading the books I noticed the missing elements that he had even in the cartoons as I grew up. It's not to say he's dumb, but compared to what he should be, he qualify's to have a disability for being mentally retarded. ANd he couldn't tell a joke if his life depended on it. Spider-Man is supposed to be funny and smart. It's part of his character. He was never an everyday person/ Everyday people aren't borderline genius (If not genius level), marrying super models.
 
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retlaw
10:57AM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
REBOOT
Although raimi didnt agree with some things he had to do with s3 you can see he's already done what he can with the spiderman franchise so it would be wise to let someone else take over now, same goes for most of the actors, maquire did it good but not good enough. Just go the same way as the harry potter movies or james bond movies where other directors take over and it still works
Although raimi didnt agree with some things he had to do with s3 you can see he's already done what he can with the spiderman franchise so it would be wise to let someone else take over now, same goes for most of the actors, maquire did it good but not good enough. Just go the same way as the harry potter movies or james bond movies where other directors take over and it still works
 
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NoirMan82
10:57AM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Losing Hope
I was hoping Raimi and Sony would get their shit together and make up for the abortion that was Spider-Man 3, but I guess it's too much to ask for. I hope Marvel gets the rights back someday.
I was hoping Raimi and Sony would get their shit together and make up for the abortion that was Spider-Man 3, but I guess it's too much to ask for. I hope Marvel gets the rights back someday.
 
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Paulie
10:42AM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Let this be true
I don't like the Spider-Man trilogy, mostly because of the horrible actors and dialogue. Just reboot already. At least a delay would be a step in the right direction.
I don't like the Spider-Man trilogy, mostly because of the horrible actors and dialogue. Just reboot already. At least a delay would be a step in the right direction.
 
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DookieMercury
10:32AM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
I hope the flick is put on hold long enough for Sony and eventually Fox to lose Marvel film rights and have it go back to the company. Most of their memorable characters are from the city and state of New York and to have flicks where they act as if they don't exist is just wrong.
I hope the flick is put on hold long enough for Sony and eventually Fox to lose Marvel film rights and have it go back to the company. Most of their memorable characters are from the city and state of New York and to have flicks where they act as if they don't exist is just wrong.
 
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Carl XVI Gustaf
10:28AM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
The Vultress
The Vultress idea sounds just as good as "Green Surfer Paintballmask Man" from Spidey 3. Get Raimi off these movies. Reboot. New cast.
The Vultress idea sounds just as good as "Green Surfer Paintballmask Man" from Spidey 3. Get Raimi off these movies. Reboot. New cast.
 
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Arvindh
10:27AM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Get.a.new.director. That's all there is to say. New...di-rec-tor. Not that hard, Sony. Or better still...reboot. I loved Spider-Man 1 and 2. But 3 was a big enough mess to make me hate the entire series on a whole. So kick Raimi out, bring a fresh team in, reboot, and do Venom right this time. Spider-Man has the potential to make a solid comeback. It's just not happening with Raimi anymore.
Get.a.new.director. That's all there is to say. New...di-rec-tor. Not that hard, Sony. Or better still...reboot. I loved Spider-Man 1 and 2. But 3 was a big enough mess to make me hate the entire series on a whole. So kick Raimi out, bring a fresh team in, reboot, and do Venom right this time. Spider-Man has the potential to make a solid comeback. It's just not happening with Raimi anymore.
 
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Smiert Spionam
10:25AM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Wow.... I'm fuckin' agreeing with studio execs...
.....Hell should be freezing over relatively soon now.



But in all seriousness, its official: I no longer give a shit about this movie.
.....Hell should be freezing over relatively soon now.



But in all seriousness, its official: I no longer give a shit about this movie.
 
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Zombie Platypus
10:19AM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
I'm still a Raimi fan, but his Spidey movies never clicked with me. I liked the first two, but hated parts throughout 'em all.



They need to do what James Bond has been doing for close to fifty years; continue on with a fresh cast and new director. No need for another origin story, just take the next one in a different direction with different names attached. And let's make...
I'm still a Raimi fan, but his Spidey movies never clicked with me. I liked the first two, but hated parts throughout 'em all.



They need to do what James Bond has been doing for close to fifty years; continue on with a fresh cast and new director. No need for another origin story, just take the next one in a different direction with different names attached. And let's make Spider-man funny in the next flick, like in the books. Enough of the whiney douche version.
 
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BuckNasty1138
10:17AM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
For once a studio actually has the right idea! The idea of the Vulture and "Vulturess" being the villains is horrible. By the time a franchise has hit the fourth movie the stakes have to be raised very high. What the hell could the Vulture be doing in NYC that is so evil and harmful. Now unleashing the Lizard on NYC could be very awesome if they aren't afraid to show him do some real damage. I...
For once a studio actually has the right idea! The idea of the Vulture and "Vulturess" being the villains is horrible. By the time a franchise has hit the fourth movie the stakes have to be raised very high. What the hell could the Vulture be doing in NYC that is so evil and harmful. Now unleashing the Lizard on NYC could be very awesome if they aren't afraid to show him do some real damage. I thought after doing "Drag Me to Hell" Raimi would be looking forward to adding some horror elements into the Spidey film. The Lizard is a perfect chance to do that. Plus Kraven could kick some serious ass.



I just have no idea who should play him. Benecio Del Toro could rock that role. But I'm not sure he would do something like that.



P.S. If Raimi wants the Vulture in there so bad than why not have him be a side villain in the first 15 minutes or so as the audience is reintroduced to Spidey.
 
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majorkonig41
10:13AM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Who cares?
I also agree with the extra tidbit. The first two were boring and I have only seen parts of the third but what I did see was terrible. This franchise should just end unless they bring in Carnage to wreck shop. Spiderman has always been and will always be one of the lamest superheros.
I also agree with the extra tidbit. The first two were boring and I have only seen parts of the third but what I did see was terrible. This franchise should just end unless they bring in Carnage to wreck shop. Spiderman has always been and will always be one of the lamest superheros.
 
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deepshit
10:09AM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Extra Tidbit..
Totally agree. I thought SM1 was kinda lame, and some of the shots of Spidey swinging reminded me of Dark Man. SM2 dint help change my perception either. Not to stir a hornet's nest here, but when Batman Begins came out in 05, I started disliking the SM franchise even more. It was like Raimi treated the whole thing from the perspective of a 7yr old.
Totally agree. I thought SM1 was kinda lame, and some of the shots of Spidey swinging reminded me of Dark Man. SM2 dint help change my perception either. Not to stir a hornet's nest here, but when Batman Begins came out in 05, I started disliking the SM franchise even more. It was like Raimi treated the whole thing from the perspective of a 7yr old.
 
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Doctor Zubian
9:54AM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
KRAVEN AND LIZARD FOR GODS SAKE!!
if the suits want a villian 'with a face' as reported then Kraven would solve that. Then unleash the lizard finally and we might get a spiderman movie we all want to see, the suits could be happy and Raimi gets classic villians to play with. Everyones a winner baby.
if the suits want a villian 'with a face' as reported then Kraven would solve that. Then unleash the lizard finally and we might get a spiderman movie we all want to see, the suits could be happy and Raimi gets classic villians to play with. Everyones a winner baby.
 
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Dark Knight
9:49AM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
" I've never loved any of the SPIDER-MAN films." - Me neither. Reboot, just reboot ...
" I've never loved any of the SPIDER-MAN films." - Me neither. Reboot, just reboot ...
 
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AmunRaTRON
9:44AM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
meh
Give this series to a new director please.
Give this series to a new director please.
 
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zohan
9:36AM on 12/17/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
great news!
good.
good.
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