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Stallone on Schwarzenegger, Rambo's future, and why Tarantino called him a coward

03.08.2012

Stallone triptych

Macleans, a national Canadian magazine that covers current affairs, recently conducted an interview with Sylvester Stallone that is a veritable gold mine for any fan of the Italian Stallion.  Roles he turned down, his tiff with Richard Gere, his acting influence(s), the difference between the action heroes of yesterday and today - it's all revealed.  The interview (which is really great) can be found in full here, while some of the cooler bits have been excerpted below.

His beef with Schwarzenegger: “That went on for a long time.  We couldn’t stand to be in the same room. But I like a good adversary. It makes you lose sleep and want to get up in the morning and go to the gym. We started in the business almost the same day. We were at the Golden Globes and he had won for best newcomer; I lost for best actor but we had won best picture, and I took this bouquet of flowers and threw it on him like, ‘It’s on, pal!’ From that day on it was a very competitive thing. Then you move on, have families, and you realize that this fellow’s very similar to you. Now we get along great.” Stallone then explained that this changed when Schwarzenegger was elected Governor of California, as that's when “[he] started inviting me to events... and next thing I know is I’m on the campaign trail, then we just hit it off.”

Stallone and Schwarzenneger being pals

What's next for Rambo (in theory) : “I’m dying to do another Rambo.  He’s in Arizona on the border. It will involve him going into Mexico. I don’t think Rambo likes Mexicans” And when asked if a fifth film would see the character of Rambo killed off, Stallone just said “Yes."   

What Tarantino said: "In the book, Rambo gets killed. I thought it was not the proper message. There had been close to 200,000 suicides by returning Vietnam vets. I said, 'Why don’t we take him right to the edge without annihilating him?' Quentin Tarantino said, 'You’re a coward, you should have killed him!' I said, 'Quentin, you’re a lunatic. I want to do some sequels, brother.'"

Stallone in recent Rambo

Extra Tidbit: In the full interview, Stallone claims he would beat Schwarzenegger in a cage match - what do you think?
Source: Macleans

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1:10PM on 03/10/2012

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Yeah, Sly could take Arnold. Apparently he hits as hard as pro fighters...and I believe it.
Yeah, Sly could take Arnold. Apparently he hits as hard as pro fighters...and I believe it.
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2:57AM on 03/09/2012

bummer Arnie and Stallone couldn't get along earlier in their career!

I would hope he's kidding about the Mexicans quote. Rambo doesn't strike me as a prejudice guy. He just hates injustice, but not the color of anyone's skin! I hope he doesn't kill off Rambo in the fifth movie! I don't wanna see Rambo die! I'd rather him just retire peacefully, hook up with an old flame from before the Vietnam war, and raise a family!
I would hope he's kidding about the Mexicans quote. Rambo doesn't strike me as a prejudice guy. He just hates injustice, but not the color of anyone's skin! I hope he doesn't kill off Rambo in the fifth movie! I don't wanna see Rambo die! I'd rather him just retire peacefully, hook up with an old flame from before the Vietnam war, and raise a family!
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7:51PM on 03/08/2012
Wait so Rambo doesn't like Mexicans...but according to Rambo 3 he liked the people of Afghanistan so much he risked his ass and did his one man army for them. I think after all the shit he's been through, Rambo knows who the good guys and bad guys are regardless of where they are from. And one thing's for sure, whoever is on his shit list ends up deeply regretting it. Sly I love you, keep what you're doing, keep defying your age and the odds. Oh and tell Tarantino that nobody asked his opinion
Wait so Rambo doesn't like Mexicans...but according to Rambo 3 he liked the people of Afghanistan so much he risked his ass and did his one man army for them. I think after all the shit he's been through, Rambo knows who the good guys and bad guys are regardless of where they are from. And one thing's for sure, whoever is on his shit list ends up deeply regretting it. Sly I love you, keep what you're doing, keep defying your age and the odds. Oh and tell Tarantino that nobody asked his opinion of First Blood, thanks.

And as for the tidbit, I say we do what they did in Rocky Balboa and get a computer fight given all the statistics from each of them in their prime. That'd be fun shit.
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7:18PM on 03/08/2012
The full interview is worth a read. I love his honesty and the passion he has for his characters. Its good to get some insight on why a Sly-Arnold movie in the 80's didn't happen. I'm glad they are doing it now even if it's 20 years late.
The full interview is worth a read. I love his honesty and the passion he has for his characters. Its good to get some insight on why a Sly-Arnold movie in the 80's didn't happen. I'm glad they are doing it now even if it's 20 years late.
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5:55PM on 03/08/2012
Gotta give Sly credit- he's extremely self-aware, brutally honest about his career- Sly is one smart dude.
Gotta give Sly credit- he's extremely self-aware, brutally honest about his career- Sly is one smart dude.
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2:49PM on 03/08/2012

Love me some more John J.!

Always said, if they did a 5th Rambo then John J has to die. I saw Sly @ the Fallsview Casino, i was impressed with Sly's love for Rambo. He stated it's his favourite character he's ever done.That being said, I'm sure if he did a 5th he wouldn't ruin it.
Tidbit:Sly wins in the Past & Present. Arni was too big back then, he'd be to slow & being so big he'd tire to fast. (remember Rocky 3)
Always said, if they did a 5th Rambo then John J has to die. I saw Sly @ the Fallsview Casino, i was impressed with Sly's love for Rambo. He stated it's his favourite character he's ever done.That being said, I'm sure if he did a 5th he wouldn't ruin it.
Tidbit:Sly wins in the Past & Present. Arni was too big back then, he'd be to slow & being so big he'd tire to fast. (remember Rocky 3)
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2:28PM on 03/08/2012
One area in which QT & I disagree. The ending to First Blood is what made it so timeless. He breaks down and gives himself up and you see what John Rambo really is...a kid. A scared, confused, traumatized kid inside a killing machine's body. So perfectly haunting and unexpectedly touching.

I feel that one more Rambo movie to complete the saga is needed. We haven't yet seen him bury his demons yet. Yeah he's back in the States and on the Rambo Ranch, but we don't know if he's 'home'
One area in which QT & I disagree. The ending to First Blood is what made it so timeless. He breaks down and gives himself up and you see what John Rambo really is...a kid. A scared, confused, traumatized kid inside a killing machine's body. So perfectly haunting and unexpectedly touching.

I feel that one more Rambo movie to complete the saga is needed. We haven't yet seen him bury his demons yet. Yeah he's back in the States and on the Rambo Ranch, but we don't know if he's 'home' yet.

'Rocky Balboa' brought everything full circle in a charming package
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1:56PM on 03/08/2012

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Only one solution for this, make another rocky, and schwarzenegger as a grumpy old opponent, maybe a streetfight again, but make it last for about 30 minutes or so, and taking each other out at the same time, both waking up in a hospital...oh wait remember that photo from a while ago
Only one solution for this, make another rocky, and schwarzenegger as a grumpy old opponent, maybe a streetfight again, but make it last for about 30 minutes or so, and taking each other out at the same time, both waking up in a hospital...oh wait remember that photo from a while ago
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1:49PM on 03/08/2012

I'll pay to see this!

Rambo VS Machete! Now that would be an action packed film!
Rambo VS Machete! Now that would be an action packed film!
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1:17PM on 03/08/2012

love Sly

but was really hoping Rambo (4) would be the last, thought it tied up the series perfectly in a subtle but meaningful full circle way. As much as I love the series I really have no desire to see him go out again, but of course I'll still be there if it happens. It just feels a bit unneeded for me and honestly I'd rather just see him work on other, new projects now that he's back on his game.
but was really hoping Rambo (4) would be the last, thought it tied up the series perfectly in a subtle but meaningful full circle way. As much as I love the series I really have no desire to see him go out again, but of course I'll still be there if it happens. It just feels a bit unneeded for me and honestly I'd rather just see him work on other, new projects now that he's back on his game.
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11:31AM on 03/08/2012
Who knew Rambo was racist? I'm thinking he was referring to the drug cartels
Who knew Rambo was racist? I'm thinking he was referring to the drug cartels
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11:28AM on 03/08/2012
If back in the 80s, Arnold will win. But now? Sly can beat the crap out of him.
If back in the 80s, Arnold will win. But now? Sly can beat the crap out of him.
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11:18AM on 03/08/2012
Rambo don't like Mexicans? What a stupid thing to say, I have to believe that quote will bite him in the butt soon. I smell an apology coming
Rambo don't like Mexicans? What a stupid thing to say, I have to believe that quote will bite him in the butt soon. I smell an apology coming
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11:00AM on 03/08/2012
I always thought it was odd that Rambo didn't die at the end of First Blood.
I always thought it was odd that Rambo didn't die at the end of First Blood.
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10:13AM on 03/08/2012
Rambo doesn't like Mexicans? That's a silly line to put in there.
Rambo doesn't like Mexicans? That's a silly line to put in there.
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9:01AM on 03/08/2012

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When? Now? Hell yeah, Stallone could probably best Arnold. When they started? Probably not.
When? Now? Hell yeah, Stallone could probably best Arnold. When they started? Probably not.
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10:17AM on 03/08/2012
Stallone had that boxing training, and his muscle mass was more practical. Arnold was huge back in the day, but he'd probably gas out real quick. Unless Arnold overwhelmed Stallone in the opening minutes, he'd probably get out worked or knocked out.
Stallone had that boxing training, and his muscle mass was more practical. Arnold was huge back in the day, but he'd probably gas out real quick. Unless Arnold overwhelmed Stallone in the opening minutes, he'd probably get out worked or knocked out.
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