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Star Trek cinematographer will shoot Star Wars: Episode VII on 35 mm with J.J. Abrams

Aug. 22, 2013by: Jesse Giroux

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Let there be lens flares! Earlier today it was announced at an event called "ASC Breakfast with Dan Mindel" that Mindel will be joining J.J. Abrams on STAR WARS: EPISODE VII. Dan Mindel previously collaborated with Abrams on MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE III as the director of photography and was the cinematographer for the last two STAR TREK films. Mindel has also worked on other films such as JOHN CARTER, ENEMY OF THE STATE and G.I. JANE.

It was also revealed at the event that STAR WARS: EPISODE VII will be shot on 35 mm (Kodak film stock 5219) instead of being filmed digitally. None of this has been confirmed quite yet, but many sites are reporting the news and it appears Mindel will be the cinematographer for STAR WARS: EPISODE VII.

Speaking of lens flares, apparently Dan Mindel is the one to blame for showing J.J. Abrams how to create them. At the event Mindel told a story about how Abrams saw a mistake flare while viewing the dailies. J.J. Abrams brought it to Dan Mindel, who showed him how they were made and the director has been deliberately using them since.

The latest news is that STAR WARS: EPISODE VII might be in theaters December 2015.

Extra Tidbit: What's more annoying in your opinion: lens flares or shaky cam? I don't have a problem with either when they're used in moderation, but they are definitely used too much in a lot of movies.

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4:07AM on 08/25/2013

Its how JJ signs his Artwork

Its his signature on his art work like any artist. For Example: ( Bad Hair= Nicolas Cage Movie, Black Guy as Woman= Tyler Perry Movie, Awesome Dialogue= Quentin Tarantino Movie, Jew Bashing= Mel Gibson Movie) That way when ever you see a movie and a Flare pops up you can say this is a JJ.
Its his signature on his art work like any artist. For Example: ( Bad Hair= Nicolas Cage Movie, Black Guy as Woman= Tyler Perry Movie, Awesome Dialogue= Quentin Tarantino Movie, Jew Bashing= Mel Gibson Movie) That way when ever you see a movie and a Flare pops up you can say this is a JJ.
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10:22PM on 08/23/2013

Original Cinematographer

I thought it important and relevant to note that Gilbert Taylor, the cinematographer for Star Wars: A New Hope, passed away today at the age of 99:

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What a distinguished career he had!





I thought it important and relevant to note that Gilbert Taylor, the cinematographer for Star Wars: A New Hope, passed away today at the age of 99:

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What a distinguished career he had!





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3:57PM on 08/23/2013
I actually don't mind them lens flares, but they are being overused in JJ's films cut it down a bit. LOL. I hope this turns out awesome.
I actually don't mind them lens flares, but they are being overused in JJ's films cut it down a bit. LOL. I hope this turns out awesome.
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10:38AM on 08/23/2013
I'm not to much of a fan of the look of the Star Trek films. Glossy, dark and claustrophobic. Everything Star Wars isn't. Well at least the originals. The originals have a timeless open feel.
I'm not to much of a fan of the look of the Star Trek films. Glossy, dark and claustrophobic. Everything Star Wars isn't. Well at least the originals. The originals have a timeless open feel.
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9:21AM on 08/23/2013
This means no 3D!!!!!! Boooyah!
This means no 3D!!!!!! Boooyah!
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10:05AM on 08/23/2013
No, this means POSTCONVERSION
No, this means POSTCONVERSION
8:49AM on 08/23/2013
Love lens flare as well, keep at it J.J.!
Love lens flare as well, keep at it J.J.!
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8:25AM on 08/23/2013

STAR WAS - FOUND FOOTAGE - 8MM

Does anyone REALLY care how it's shot? As long as it's good. If not, we'll all be longing for the Lucas' days. And no one wants that or Death Star sizes plot holes.
Does anyone REALLY care how it's shot? As long as it's good. If not, we'll all be longing for the Lucas' days. And no one wants that or Death Star sizes plot holes.
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10:08AM on 08/23/2013
A found footage Star Wars... Now THAT I'd like to see...
Didn't say I'd like the film... I'd like to see it done. Pure curiosity !
A found footage Star Wars... Now THAT I'd like to see...
Didn't say I'd like the film... I'd like to see it done. Pure curiosity !
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8:16AM on 08/23/2013
So it will be shot on 35mm...then converted to digital for editing, effects and 3D conversion, thereby negating any reason to use film stock.
So it will be shot on 35mm...then converted to digital for editing, effects and 3D conversion, thereby negating any reason to use film stock.
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7:44AM on 08/23/2013
Love lens flares, hate shaky cam. Period !
Love lens flares, hate shaky cam. Period !
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7:29AM on 08/23/2013
Definitely shaky cam. It's lazy film making. I understand the purpose of it, but it's used way too much (looking at you, Man of Steel and Elysium). Independent film makers can't afford 30k steadicams. You can, Zack Snyder.
Definitely shaky cam. It's lazy film making. I understand the purpose of it, but it's used way too much (looking at you, Man of Steel and Elysium). Independent film makers can't afford 30k steadicams. You can, Zack Snyder.
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4:00AM on 08/23/2013

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Not even a contest for me, Lens flares don't really bother me much but I absolutely hate shaky cam.
Not even a contest for me, Lens flares don't really bother me much but I absolutely hate shaky cam.
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2:56AM on 08/23/2013
Have you ever heard a joke that was really funny the first time you heard it, but then a dozen other people tried to tell you the same joke and you couldn't remember why it was funny in the first place? That's how I'm starting to feel about every "new" comment, joke, picture or video about J.J. Abrams and lens flares.
Have you ever heard a joke that was really funny the first time you heard it, but then a dozen other people tried to tell you the same joke and you couldn't remember why it was funny in the first place? That's how I'm starting to feel about every "new" comment, joke, picture or video about J.J. Abrams and lens flares.
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2:52AM on 08/23/2013
I don't like pretentious stuff that tries to make it seem like you're physically there. Shaky cam is worse than lens flares. I mean, in real life, if somebody shakes you, your vision doesn't look anything like shaky cam. Your brain is able to focus and balance an image a thousand times faster and more clearly than a camera. So shaky cam, while trying to make you feel immersed, actually removes you even further. Lens flares have the same issue. You don't get lens flares in your eyes unless you
I don't like pretentious stuff that tries to make it seem like you're physically there. Shaky cam is worse than lens flares. I mean, in real life, if somebody shakes you, your vision doesn't look anything like shaky cam. Your brain is able to focus and balance an image a thousand times faster and more clearly than a camera. So shaky cam, while trying to make you feel immersed, actually removes you even further. Lens flares have the same issue. You don't get lens flares in your eyes unless you squint; and they're vertical, not horizontal. Unless JJ Abrams wants you to feel like you're squinting the whole time, he's actually further removing you from the story.
Even that one little camera shake in Jurassic Park when the brachiosaurus comes down onto all 4 legs bothers me. If I was physically there to experience the vibration, my vision would not shake. Nobody's does.
It's half of the reason I hate 3D movies. They force your eyes to focus on something, when in reality, your eyes should be able to focus between the background, middle ground, and foreground in a fraction of a second. Granted, 2D movies have focal points you cannot control as a viewer, but they're nowhere near as forceful and invasive as 3D movies. It's just another ill-conceived gimmick that tries to force reality, while actually further removing it.
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2:35AM on 08/23/2013

uh...

I kind of like the lens flares. And I love me some 35mm film! Sweet mama pajama film feels good! If you don't believe me than you've never shot on film.
I kind of like the lens flares. And I love me some 35mm film! Sweet mama pajama film feels good! If you don't believe me than you've never shot on film.
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2:29AM on 08/23/2013
Ok what is everybody's problem with the damn lens flares? Seriously.
Ok what is everybody's problem with the damn lens flares? Seriously.
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2:00AM on 08/23/2013
hell yes bring it!!!
hell yes bring it!!!
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12:41AM on 08/23/2013

Star Wars 4 is gonna be shot on film!!!!!

Hell yes, that's a pretty big middle finger to Lucas and his space battles movies.

Oh and Shaky cam is way worse than lens flares, I honestly really like the blue halos you get from flares on anamorphic lenses. Atleast lens flares aren't there to manufacture a false-sense of "intensity".
Hell yes, that's a pretty big middle finger to Lucas and his space battles movies.

Oh and Shaky cam is way worse than lens flares, I honestly really like the blue halos you get from flares on anamorphic lenses. Atleast lens flares aren't there to manufacture a false-sense of "intensity".
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11:59PM on 08/22/2013

FILM!!!!

This is great news to me. Digital is not bad, but there is just something about film. As for the lens flares, I really hope he keeps it to a minimum. They were fine in Star Trek because he established that as the style/look for the movies, but Star Wars already has a "look".
This is great news to me. Digital is not bad, but there is just something about film. As for the lens flares, I really hope he keeps it to a minimum. They were fine in Star Trek because he established that as the style/look for the movies, but Star Wars already has a "look".
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11:30PM on 08/22/2013
Film over digital any day of the week! Now as long as he doesn't go crazy with the lens flares it's all fine by me!
Film over digital any day of the week! Now as long as he doesn't go crazy with the lens flares it's all fine by me!
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10:50PM on 08/22/2013
This is great news because it means that Episode VII will have more in common with the OG trilogy!
Extra Tidbit: It's gotta be shaky cam, that technique is so played out and obnoxious.
This is great news because it means that Episode VII will have more in common with the OG trilogy!
Extra Tidbit: It's gotta be shaky cam, that technique is so played out and obnoxious.
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10:47PM on 08/22/2013
As long as rapid fire editing and shaky cam are not used, this is great.
As long as rapid fire editing and shaky cam are not used, this is great.
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10:38PM on 08/22/2013
Extra tidbit: I'd like to add Quick Editing in the mix. Recently catched a glimpse of Halle Berry's Catwoman on cable a couple of nights ago and one of the reasons that the movie sucks is quick editing. They edit too fast, too much, too often. Gave me a headache.
Extra tidbit: I'd like to add Quick Editing in the mix. Recently catched a glimpse of Halle Berry's Catwoman on cable a couple of nights ago and one of the reasons that the movie sucks is quick editing. They edit too fast, too much, too often. Gave me a headache.
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3:19AM on 08/23/2013
Also unnecessary CGI. In Catwoman they had cats that were made using CGI. Why?
Also unnecessary CGI. In Catwoman they had cats that were made using CGI. Why?
6:48AM on 08/23/2013
Even the cats were CGI? Jeez!
Even the cats were CGI? Jeez!
10:33PM on 08/22/2013
Fantastic news.
Fantastic news.
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10:21PM on 08/22/2013
Interesting choice to shoot this on film. I know a fair number of people weren't big fans of Episodes II and III being shot digitally. I guess it could go some way to lending it a bit more a tactile quality that was missing with the innundation of digital landscapes, vehicles, characters and so on in the prequels. Does this mean that the 3D (face it, this is going to be in 3D) will be post-converted?
Interesting choice to shoot this on film. I know a fair number of people weren't big fans of Episodes II and III being shot digitally. I guess it could go some way to lending it a bit more a tactile quality that was missing with the innundation of digital landscapes, vehicles, characters and so on in the prequels. Does this mean that the 3D (face it, this is going to be in 3D) will be post-converted?
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10:19PM on 08/22/2013
Like you, I have no problem with lens flare or shaky-cam, provided it's used in moderation (Total Recall reboot and Hunger Games are good example of using too much, respectively). However, I really hope they don't use lens flare in the new Star Wars movies, to keep it from looking too Star Trek-y.
Like you, I have no problem with lens flare or shaky-cam, provided it's used in moderation (Total Recall reboot and Hunger Games are good example of using too much, respectively). However, I really hope they don't use lens flare in the new Star Wars movies, to keep it from looking too Star Trek-y.
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10:44PM on 08/22/2013
The Hunger Games have had the worse shaky cam work since The Bourne Supremacy and Quantum of Solace.
The Hunger Games have had the worse shaky cam work since The Bourne Supremacy and Quantum of Solace.
10:51PM on 08/22/2013
Go back and watch Empire Strikes Back, you will be amazed at how many lens flares are in that movie.
Go back and watch Empire Strikes Back, you will be amazed at how many lens flares are in that movie.
10:19PM on 08/22/2013
lens flares are annoying but dont bother me that much...

Shaky cam on the other hand is ruining films. With the help of shaky cam now any 14 year old girl can look like an uber tough action hero...
lens flares are annoying but dont bother me that much...

Shaky cam on the other hand is ruining films. With the help of shaky cam now any 14 year old girl can look like an uber tough action hero...
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10:15PM on 08/22/2013
Lens flares. Bwahahahaha.
Lens flares. Bwahahahaha.
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