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Sylvester Stallone responds to rumors about a PG-13 Expendables 2

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Just a few days ago we posted this bit of news, wherein it seemed that Chuck Norris' provision for being in THE EXPENDABLES 2 was that the film would bear a PG-13 rating when it exploded into theaters on August 17th.

Well this sent action-lovers the world over into an uproar (we all know what happened with LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD), and so Harry Knowles over at Ain't It Cool News emailed Sylvester Stallone himself in order to find out just what was going on. Here's what the man said:

"Harry, the film is fantastic with Van Damme turning in an inspired performance... Our final battle is one for the ages. The PG-13 rumor is true, but before your readers pass judgement, trust me when I say this film is LARGE in every way and delivers on every level. This movie touches on many emotions which we want to share with the broadest audience possible, BUT, fear not, this Barbeque of Grand scale Ass Bashing will not leave anyone hungry... Sly"

So it's definitely happening then. We're going to have an action movie filled overflowing with explosions and death and pain and violence and testosterone and more bullets than were used by the American Army in the last ten years, and it will be rated PG-13. Do with that fact as you will.

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Extra Tidbit: "This Barbeque of Grand scale Ass Bashing?" Does that sound to anyone else like a the title of porn movie made by cannibals?
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5:09AM on 01/22/2012
Don't like the rating but at least Van Damme gives an "inspired performance"... like a BOSS.
Don't like the rating but at least Van Damme gives an "inspired performance"... like a BOSS.
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11:30PM on 01/20/2012

and...

"Walker told me I have AIDS."
"Walker told me I have AIDS."
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11:26PM on 01/20/2012

PG-13 hurts this film any way you try to rationalize it...it does.

So...parts with flavor like when Dolph shoots the pirate in half....and when stallone cuts an arm off one guy...and a head off the other, when rescuing the generals daughter...WONT BE IN THIS FILM...and Willis won't be saying "fuck"...and from the tone of his character, he seems like he'd be saying it quite a bit...hurts.
So...parts with flavor like when Dolph shoots the pirate in half....and when stallone cuts an arm off one guy...and a head off the other, when rescuing the generals daughter...WONT BE IN THIS FILM...and Willis won't be saying "fuck"...and from the tone of his character, he seems like he'd be saying it quite a bit...hurts.
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2:31PM on 01/20/2012

Terry looks pissed!

"Which one of you jokers switched my tank-top??!?"

As the saying goes 'you can't butter both sides of the bread without getting a little messy'

I'm curious to see how this plays out according to Stallone; maybe we're going to have a ton of violence like the last movie only with a lot more CGI blood splattering all over all over the place.
Given Norris' age I'd say the rating was necessary because the action has to slow down showing him doing his stunts or rated- R and all we get are
"Which one of you jokers switched my tank-top??!?"

As the saying goes 'you can't butter both sides of the bread without getting a little messy'

I'm curious to see how this plays out according to Stallone; maybe we're going to have a ton of violence like the last movie only with a lot more CGI blood splattering all over all over the place.
Given Norris' age I'd say the rating was necessary because the action has to slow down showing him doing his stunts or rated- R and all we get are split second close-ups of the man's face as well as having it rendered on a stunt/body double.
seriously, fuck Norris.
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6:13AM on 01/20/2012
DIdn't they do the exact same thing for the first movie, it was rumored to be a PG-13 & who takes a reliable source like that fat ass fanboy Harry Knowles serious. I still call bullshit like Stallone actually took the time to personally respond to an e-mail. Bunch of gullible morons on here i swear. Wonders how many will have to eat crow if it does end as an R. Plus he is not even the director & writer this time, so of course he will just say what he has to just to get people off his back
DIdn't they do the exact same thing for the first movie, it was rumored to be a PG-13 & who takes a reliable source like that fat ass fanboy Harry Knowles serious. I still call bullshit like Stallone actually took the time to personally respond to an e-mail. Bunch of gullible morons on here i swear. Wonders how many will have to eat crow if it does end as an R. Plus he is not even the director & writer this time, so of course he will just say what he has to just to get people off his back for now. I think thats actually smarter than saying oh no its definitely gonna be done this way, its called marketing dumbasses.
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3:25AM on 01/20/2012

Letter

Some self-conscious word-play in Sly's letter - bit cumbersome!
Some self-conscious word-play in Sly's letter - bit cumbersome!
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1:37AM on 01/20/2012
The Rating system is messed up anyways. If none of you have seen the movie "This Film Is Not Yet Rated" be sure to check it out, its on netflix's instant watch. It shows how rediculas the Rating system really is. If anything the PG 13 will allow it to get more sales in theaters, then if it was "R".
The Rating system is messed up anyways. If none of you have seen the movie "This Film Is Not Yet Rated" be sure to check it out, its on netflix's instant watch. It shows how rediculas the Rating system really is. If anything the PG 13 will allow it to get more sales in theaters, then if it was "R".
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1:25AM on 01/20/2012

why not an AA?

Why can't we have this rating be AA?

or.. OR!!! why can't Sly tell chuck to go F#@K him self.
I'm still going to watch this movie and give it a chance... but i think there should have been some compromises made. As my title says... why can this movie have an AA rating. That way the action is still brutal, and we dull down the profanity?
Why can't we have this rating be AA?

or.. OR!!! why can't Sly tell chuck to go F#@K him self.
I'm still going to watch this movie and give it a chance... but i think there should have been some compromises made. As my title says... why can this movie have an AA rating. That way the action is still brutal, and we dull down the profanity?
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2:00AM on 01/20/2012
On a side note, that lil video on Hitler upset about the PG13 Rating is hilarious
On a side note, that lil video on Hitler upset about the PG13 Rating is hilarious
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12:39AM on 01/20/2012

ABOUT THE RATING - READ

99% of an R-rated movie will get that R due to language, especially for the word Fu#ck, etc Violent does not really makes a different in these rating! It seems that the MPAA hates the F-word, among other words!!
99% of an R-rated movie will get that R due to language, especially for the word Fu#ck, etc Violent does not really makes a different in these rating! It seems that the MPAA hates the F-word, among other words!!
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1:07AM on 01/20/2012
There is CLEAR difference between PG-13 violence and R violence. There is so much you can't show in PG-13. It's not just language - YOU ARE WRONG.
There is CLEAR difference between PG-13 violence and R violence. There is so much you can't show in PG-13. It's not just language - YOU ARE WRONG.
11:42PM on 01/19/2012
I never thought it would come to this. A collection of the toughest, meanest motherfucker from the 80s coming together to make a film with the same rating as Twilight.
I never thought it would come to this. A collection of the toughest, meanest motherfucker from the 80s coming together to make a film with the same rating as Twilight.
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9:07PM on 01/19/2012
The award for the biggest fanboy overreaction goes to.....
The award for the biggest fanboy overreaction goes to.....
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8:02PM on 01/19/2012
"You lousy cork-suckers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves." -Roman Maroni
"You lousy cork-suckers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves." -Roman Maroni
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7:27PM on 01/19/2012
Worth getting mad because fuck won't be said? Beyond childish
Worth getting mad because fuck won't be said? Beyond childish
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5:06PM on 01/20/2012
Well technically a PG 13 flick is allowed to drop one F bomb.
Well technically a PG 13 flick is allowed to drop one F bomb.
7:03PM on 01/19/2012
Fuck.
Fuck.
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7:01PM on 01/19/2012
Terry crews rocks...lol
Terry crews rocks...lol
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6:45PM on 01/19/2012
FUCK CHUCK NORRIS! How the fuck could sly go along with that?! they should have just gave norris the boot and called steven segal! so this is going to be LESS BLOODY, we wont hear the word fuck... this really fucking sucks! plus its schwarzeneggers big return to movies.. i really fucking hate chuck norris now! hes lucky to even have a part in this fucking film! hes the laughing stock of earth, and they change the film for that fucking guy??
FUCK CHUCK NORRIS! How the fuck could sly go along with that?! they should have just gave norris the boot and called steven segal! so this is going to be LESS BLOODY, we wont hear the word fuck... this really fucking sucks! plus its schwarzeneggers big return to movies.. i really fucking hate chuck norris now! hes lucky to even have a part in this fucking film! hes the laughing stock of earth, and they change the film for that fucking guy??
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6:40PM on 01/19/2012
I really don't remember the first movie being that hard of an R rating... so who cares. I'll still see it. I'm pretty sure the point of these movies is that all of these guys are in one movie... not to put as much blood and other unnecessary bullshit in it as possible.
I really don't remember the first movie being that hard of an R rating... so who cares. I'll still see it. I'm pretty sure the point of these movies is that all of these guys are in one movie... not to put as much blood and other unnecessary bullshit in it as possible.
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5:39PM on 01/19/2012
Fuckin' Chuck Norris...
Fuckin' Chuck Norris...
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5:28PM on 01/19/2012

Another address for complaints...

Here's another address you can send complaints... info@millenniumfilms.com
Worth a try, anyway.
Here's another address you can send complaints... info@millenniumfilms.com
Worth a try, anyway.
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4:56PM on 01/19/2012
More Terry Crews!!!
More Terry Crews!!!
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4:28PM on 01/19/2012
I guess this movie will fail at the box office but make up for it in dvd/netflix sales and rentals.
I guess this movie will fail at the box office but make up for it in dvd/netflix sales and rentals.
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4:07PM on 01/19/2012
Dont get confused, Expendables is NOT a good movie, It's an entertaining movie and thats all it sets out to be, I dont think it'll make too much of a difference in the grand cheese-fest this movie will be.
Dont get confused, Expendables is NOT a good movie, It's an entertaining movie and thats all it sets out to be, I dont think it'll make too much of a difference in the grand cheese-fest this movie will be.
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2:57PM on 01/19/2012
Ya not seeing this. Loved the first one, but a pg 13 movie that should be R never work. Im not going to sit in a theatre and watch another terminator salvation. This is a redbox rent.
Ya not seeing this. Loved the first one, but a pg 13 movie that should be R never work. Im not going to sit in a theatre and watch another terminator salvation. This is a redbox rent.
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2:52PM on 01/19/2012
Does it really matter? It's not like the first movie was any good, do we really expect this one to somehow be better?
Does it really matter? It's not like the first movie was any good, do we really expect this one to somehow be better?
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2:41PM on 01/19/2012

Not Ok.

Expendables was entertaining because it was over the top. Take out the crazy deaths and hardcore action sets and you have a bunch of middle aged men working with older guys in a subpar movie.

Th news of this being pg-13 kills it for a lot of people. We don't want to see a bunch of 60 year olds having "feelings and emotions" we want to see them kicking ass and not giving a fuck.
Expendables was entertaining because it was over the top. Take out the crazy deaths and hardcore action sets and you have a bunch of middle aged men working with older guys in a subpar movie.

Th news of this being pg-13 kills it for a lot of people. We don't want to see a bunch of 60 year olds having "feelings and emotions" we want to see them kicking ass and not giving a fuck.
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2:34PM on 01/19/2012
This is kind of disappointing, I'll still watch it though.
This is kind of disappointing, I'll still watch it though.
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2:22PM on 01/19/2012
i'm cool with no profanity, but I hope its still gory
i'm cool with no profanity, but I hope its still gory
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1:59PM on 01/19/2012
What Chuck Norris says, goes. I'm not to worried about it, I'm sure it'll have it's moments. How could it not with Arnold, Chuck etc..
What Chuck Norris says, goes. I'm not to worried about it, I'm sure it'll have it's moments. How could it not with Arnold, Chuck etc..
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1:49PM on 01/19/2012

Watch the fucking movie first!

Really the only thing that made the last one R was the tacked on church scene and some cgi blood. If its good it will still be fine. Let's actually see a movie before we decide it's bad.
Really the only thing that made the last one R was the tacked on church scene and some cgi blood. If its good it will still be fine. Let's actually see a movie before we decide it's bad.
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1:42PM on 01/19/2012

Fuck it.............

Don't care, knew this was going to happen. This would've been a reverse opposite of a PG or PG-13 movie in every good way possible. Adult men would be going to see this movie. Thus they would be taking their sons, grand kids, nephews, ETC. Kids will not be clambering to go see this movie.

These actors are from our generation. We know what we want to see, and PG-13 isn't it. I would've atleast taken my nephews to go see this and that right there would be $30. Now they're going to get $0.
Don't care, knew this was going to happen. This would've been a reverse opposite of a PG or PG-13 movie in every good way possible. Adult men would be going to see this movie. Thus they would be taking their sons, grand kids, nephews, ETC. Kids will not be clambering to go see this movie.

These actors are from our generation. We know what we want to see, and PG-13 isn't it. I would've atleast taken my nephews to go see this and that right there would be $30. Now they're going to get $0. Smooth move you ignorant fucks!!
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1:33PM on 01/19/2012
I will just go and re-watch Rambo (2008). There are plenty of comments on here that I agree with. They are all red.
I will just go and re-watch Rambo (2008). There are plenty of comments on here that I agree with. They are all red.
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1:33PM on 01/19/2012
I really don't care if Norris is to blame for this, I don't think he was the deciding factor, but I never understood his addition in the first place. His career and movies were never on par with Arnold's, Sly's, Bruce's or even JCVD's. But I guess all the kids who only knew Norris from the jokes and not for his terrible screen presence, have what they wished for and a movie they can all go and see now. Congrats
I really don't care if Norris is to blame for this, I don't think he was the deciding factor, but I never understood his addition in the first place. His career and movies were never on par with Arnold's, Sly's, Bruce's or even JCVD's. But I guess all the kids who only knew Norris from the jokes and not for his terrible screen presence, have what they wished for and a movie they can all go and see now. Congrats
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1:23PM on 01/19/2012
I'll reserve judgment for when I have seen it. I'm a little disappointed, but at the same time I've seen PG-13 rated films get away with A LOT (i.e. The Dark Knight, the Bourne trilogy, Taken, and many others). Some of the ones I've seen made me wonder how the hell they weren't rated R, so I think the movie could still be just as awesome as the first one. To just throw a fit and bitch, saying "I'm not seeing it now that it isn't rated R!" sounds like something a menstruating 14 year old girl
I'll reserve judgment for when I have seen it. I'm a little disappointed, but at the same time I've seen PG-13 rated films get away with A LOT (i.e. The Dark Knight, the Bourne trilogy, Taken, and many others). Some of the ones I've seen made me wonder how the hell they weren't rated R, so I think the movie could still be just as awesome as the first one. To just throw a fit and bitch, saying "I'm not seeing it now that it isn't rated R!" sounds like something a menstruating 14 year old girl would do/say. It's not THAT big of a deal.
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12:59PM on 01/19/2012
So they're implying that the fans are the Expendables here.. Way to go Sly! Thanks for making us the titular characters.
So they're implying that the fans are the Expendables here.. Way to go Sly! Thanks for making us the titular characters.
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12:54PM on 01/19/2012
This is Terminator Salvation all over again. The exact same thing happened 3 years ago. Everyone was ready for a R rated Terminator flick, then news broke the movie might be PG13. A lot of folks were in denial saying it might not even be PG13 when released. Then when they got over that, these same folks were saying how there are plenty of "hard" PG13 action flicks. They kept bringing up TDK.. TDK. Salvation was released and it was shit. Even by the end of the summer, someone behind the movie
This is Terminator Salvation all over again. The exact same thing happened 3 years ago. Everyone was ready for a R rated Terminator flick, then news broke the movie might be PG13. A lot of folks were in denial saying it might not even be PG13 when released. Then when they got over that, these same folks were saying how there are plenty of "hard" PG13 action flicks. They kept bringing up TDK.. TDK. Salvation was released and it was shit. Even by the end of the summer, someone behind the movie (don't remember who), released a statement saying "The rating didn't bring in the crowd like we were hoping for." .... I thought Terminator Salvation was a lesson for everyone?
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2:21PM on 01/19/2012
TE Salvations wasn´t bad because it was PG, it was bad because it was directed by MCG (and lacked Arnold). No cursing, grand scale bloodshed or even Moon Bloodgoods tits could have saved it!!!
TE Salvations wasn´t bad because it was PG, it was bad because it was directed by MCG (and lacked Arnold). No cursing, grand scale bloodshed or even Moon Bloodgoods tits could have saved it!!!
12:35PM on 01/19/2012
C'mon Sly, there's a reason why the last RAMBO wasn't a flop. When we go to see RAMBO, we went for the last half an hour. Do you really think we care about the emotional side? It's the same with EXPENDABLES. Catch my drift?
C'mon Sly, there's a reason why the last RAMBO wasn't a flop. When we go to see RAMBO, we went for the last half an hour. Do you really think we care about the emotional side? It's the same with EXPENDABLES. Catch my drift?
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12:18PM on 01/19/2012
There's a difference between PG-13 and R action movies. PG-13's cleaner, whereas R-rated movies are grittier and hardcore.

Mission Impossible, Fast and the Furious, Iron Man, Expendables; Sly, which one of these is not like the others?
There's a difference between PG-13 and R action movies. PG-13's cleaner, whereas R-rated movies are grittier and hardcore.

Mission Impossible, Fast and the Furious, Iron Man, Expendables; Sly, which one of these is not like the others?
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12:13PM on 01/19/2012
Well, crap.
Well, crap.
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12:08PM on 01/19/2012
If anyone's upset about this news, then they should go see Haywire this week. If a female-led R rated action movie financially surpasses a PG13 testosterone filled action movie, then we might get an end to these neutered action flicks.
If anyone's upset about this news, then they should go see Haywire this week. If a female-led R rated action movie financially surpasses a PG13 testosterone filled action movie, then we might get an end to these neutered action flicks.
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11:41AM on 01/19/2012
This is truly sickening news and goes against the whole point to having an Expendables film in the first place. Thank you for spitting in the faces of the people who supported these films.
This is truly sickening news and goes against the whole point to having an Expendables film in the first place. Thank you for spitting in the faces of the people who supported these films.
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11:02AM on 01/19/2012

Well I'm out

Definitely not seeing this movie in theaters if it's rated anything under R. I'll wait till it comes on netflix so I'm not giving my money directly to the studio. Honestly the first movie really isn't that good, it just had some awesome balls to the wall VIOLENT action scenes. The rest of the film was just a filmsy showcase for the violence. Ask anybody (including kids under 17) who saw the first one what they liked most about the film and I guarantee they'll mention Dolph blowing that guy in
Definitely not seeing this movie in theaters if it's rated anything under R. I'll wait till it comes on netflix so I'm not giving my money directly to the studio. Honestly the first movie really isn't that good, it just had some awesome balls to the wall VIOLENT action scenes. The rest of the film was just a filmsy showcase for the violence. Ask anybody (including kids under 17) who saw the first one what they liked most about the film and I guarantee they'll mention Dolph blowing that guy in half with that grenade launcher or Crews tearing people up with that A1 shotgun. Nobody is going to say they liked the movie because the plot was awesome or the characters were interesting, because neither are true.

I know I'm probably coming off like some kind of gore junky but for certain films it is necessary. Dark Knight was surprising dark and violent for pg 13 but there was no need for it to be R. Live Free or Die Hard should have been R to begin with but I still enjoyed the hell out of the pg13 version in theaters. If this turns out to be a good film with a Pg13 ratings then I will bite my tongue and watch it. But based on the shitty story and boring characters in the first I'm not holding out much hope. Sly is really crapping on his fanbase here. Do you really think kids under 17 are dying to see a bunch of old 80's stars running around shooting bullets that don't seem to hit anybody? Hell no, add hardcore violence to that and they'll see it just like with the first.
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10:59AM on 01/19/2012
That's the worst photoshopped bikini I've ever seen.
That's the worst photoshopped bikini I've ever seen.
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10:58AM on 01/19/2012
Norris is a twat, should ave told him to get stuffed!!
Norris is a twat, should ave told him to get stuffed!!
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11:20AM on 01/19/2012
How eloquently put. Now run along, you're missing out on importing schooling.
How eloquently put. Now run along, you're missing out on importing schooling.
10:54AM on 01/19/2012
I still call bullshit but even then people do really still need to lighten up. The responses to the last article were downright embarassing & uncalled for.
I still call bullshit but even then people do really still need to lighten up. The responses to the last article were downright embarassing & uncalled for.
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10:40AM on 01/19/2012
Let's not kid ourselves. Norris or no Norris, this would have ended up PG-13 no matter what was said before production started and all that shit. Get over it fanboys.
Let's not kid ourselves. Norris or no Norris, this would have ended up PG-13 no matter what was said before production started and all that shit. Get over it fanboys.
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10:01AM on 01/19/2012

All of this because of Norris?!!

Who the hell needed him in there asides from a giggle inducing cameo, they're going to re rate the whole thing just for his lame presence? They should have just gotten Michael Biehn instead. I dragged a whole group of people to the first one to support an R rated action flick, this is like spit in the face. Hey Sly 14 years old dont care about Rambo or Universal Solider, its us long time adult fans who do, thanks a bunch for takin the surefire cash grab instead.
Who the hell needed him in there asides from a giggle inducing cameo, they're going to re rate the whole thing just for his lame presence? They should have just gotten Michael Biehn instead. I dragged a whole group of people to the first one to support an R rated action flick, this is like spit in the face. Hey Sly 14 years old dont care about Rambo or Universal Solider, its us long time adult fans who do, thanks a bunch for takin the surefire cash grab instead.
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9:56AM on 01/19/2012
I bet they are probably gonna have the pg13 version in theaters and a r version available on dvd. Lionsgate is master at milking things for money so no doubt that will probably be what will happen.
I bet they are probably gonna have the pg13 version in theaters and a r version available on dvd. Lionsgate is master at milking things for money so no doubt that will probably be what will happen.
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9:03AM on 01/19/2012

Let Lionsgate know how we feel!

Send them a polite Tweet here... https://twitter.com/#!/lionsgatemovies
Or send them a polite e-mail here... customerservice@lionsgate.com
or here... general-inquiries@lionsgate.com
Let them know that we want an R Rating for Expendables 2 and will not see it otherwise.
Send them a polite Tweet here... https://twitter.com/#!/lionsgatemovies
Or send them a polite e-mail here... customerservice@lionsgate.com
or here... general-inquiries@lionsgate.com
Let them know that we want an R Rating for Expendables 2 and will not see it otherwise.
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9:04AM on 01/19/2012
I'll do that, thanks for the link.
I'll do that, thanks for the link.
9:54AM on 01/19/2012
Ill do it too, thanks for the info.
Ill do it too, thanks for the info.
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8:55AM on 01/19/2012
I didn't think that he would be able to make me feel better about it... but he did.
And when I think about it, there have been plenty of good PG13 movies that I had previously wished were R (e.g., Live Free or Die Hard, The One).
If the movie is bad or good, it is because it was made poorly or well, can't completely blame the rating. Here is hoping it is as Sly says.
I didn't think that he would be able to make me feel better about it... but he did.
And when I think about it, there have been plenty of good PG13 movies that I had previously wished were R (e.g., Live Free or Die Hard, The One).
If the movie is bad or good, it is because it was made poorly or well, can't completely blame the rating. Here is hoping it is as Sly says.
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8:54AM on 01/19/2012

Boo

And before any one says that the rating doesn't matter as long as its good, Yes, the rating does matter. How often do you watch a movie on cable over the R-rated dvd? We go to these movies for over the top action violence and kill scenes. I thought I could turn to Sly for some good hardcore action, but he's just going to deliver an action movie as intense as Taylor Lautner's Abduction or Justin Timberlake's In Time - count me out.
And before any one says that the rating doesn't matter as long as its good, Yes, the rating does matter. How often do you watch a movie on cable over the R-rated dvd? We go to these movies for over the top action violence and kill scenes. I thought I could turn to Sly for some good hardcore action, but he's just going to deliver an action movie as intense as Taylor Lautner's Abduction or Justin Timberlake's In Time - count me out.
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9:03AM on 01/19/2012
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