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12.09.2008

Remember all the hullabaloo surrounding the decision by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences that the original score for THE DARK KNIGHT was ineligible for an Oscar? Well you can take that AMPAS hate mail and just put it in your shredder. The Academy has reversed that decision and now Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard are eligible to be nominated for Best Original Score. The affected parties submitted an appeal (likely with major help by Warner Bros. who would love to pick up as many nominations as possible) to prove that the score was the work of two authors - Zimmer and Howard. The disqualification came about because there were five authors listed on the music cue sheet (the reason this was done was simply to financially compensate music assistants who helped make the score successful). So there's one more time you may hear "and the winner is...THE DARK KNIGHT" when the Oscars are presented in 2009. With this addition, do you think DARK KNIGHT will take home the most Academy Awards this year?

Extra Tidbit: Though Zimmer and Howard have a total of 14 Oscar nominations between them, they only have one win (Zimmer won for his LION KING score).
Source: Variety

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4:16PM on 12/10/2008
How did we get from talking about TDK score to debating editing choices?

Anyway... re-watching TDK last night, I was actually kind of surprised how LITTLE score was used in the movie. There are frequent areas where you hear no score at all. Yes, I know that happens in a lot of movies, but here, I would say the majority of the movie had no music to it. Not that it needed it! But to nominate a score that is sparsely used and when it is used, uses re-cues from BB, I don't see it. I just don't
How did we get from talking about TDK score to debating editing choices?

Anyway... re-watching TDK last night, I was actually kind of surprised how LITTLE score was used in the movie. There are frequent areas where you hear no score at all. Yes, I know that happens in a lot of movies, but here, I would say the majority of the movie had no music to it. Not that it needed it! But to nominate a score that is sparsely used and when it is used, uses re-cues from BB, I don't see it. I just don't see nominating TDK for score. I love the movie and I love the music, but it's not Oscar-worthy. Sure, it can be considered. Every movie deserves to be considered. But I don't think it should be nominated.
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10:48AM on 12/10/2008

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Trismegistus, there's a large difference between fan boys and film fans. Grow up.
Trismegistus, there's a large difference between fan boys and film fans. Grow up.
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12:38AM on 12/10/2008
Well if Batman Begins was disqualified (which I never heard about), then TDK should be disqualified. Even better, it should be qualified, then not nominated. That'd be a slap in the face to the over eager fan boys. What a farce.
Well if Batman Begins was disqualified (which I never heard about), then TDK should be disqualified. Even better, it should be qualified, then not nominated. That'd be a slap in the face to the over eager fan boys. What a farce.
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8:05PM on 12/09/2008
trismedistus, Batman Begins wasn't nominated because it too, like TDK was previously, was disqualified by the Academy
trismedistus, Batman Begins wasn't nominated because it too, like TDK was previously, was disqualified by the Academy
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3:34PM on 12/09/2008
The score for Batman Begins wasnt nominate, so why should they nominate the Dark Knight score? There's nothing new...if anything it's a major step down from the far more nuanced and sensitive score of Batman Begins. The only real new addition is the Joker theme, and that's a ripoff of a cue in Heat.

This seems like a nomination just for the sake of nominating. Give the credit where it's due: in the sound design and editing categories, supporting actor, and cinematography. Don't cheapen the
The score for Batman Begins wasnt nominate, so why should they nominate the Dark Knight score? There's nothing new...if anything it's a major step down from the far more nuanced and sensitive score of Batman Begins. The only real new addition is the Joker theme, and that's a ripoff of a cue in Heat.

This seems like a nomination just for the sake of nominating. Give the credit where it's due: in the sound design and editing categories, supporting actor, and cinematography. Don't cheapen the film by nominating it just for a notch on the belt.
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3:00PM on 12/09/2008

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2:53PM on 12/09/2008

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Right... the whole movie is shot that way. Its not your cup of tea, and that's very cool. I'm just saying there's a difference in the use of that style in the Bourne films compared to the Bond and Batman. They might all be nauseating, but if you like it, you can actually make sense of whats going on in the Bourne films.
Right... the whole movie is shot that way. Its not your cup of tea, and that's very cool. I'm just saying there's a difference in the use of that style in the Bourne films compared to the Bond and Batman. They might all be nauseating, but if you like it, you can actually make sense of whats going on in the Bourne films.
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2:48PM on 12/09/2008

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2:23PM on 12/09/2008

what??

I dunno man... I didn't think the action scenes were hard to see at all in this movie. How small is your tv?

Try explaining to me the fight in morocco between bourne and that agent in the third movie. I saw Bourne jump through a window and into a bathroom and then all I saw was random punches. That was awful.
I dunno man... I didn't think the action scenes were hard to see at all in this movie. How small is your tv?

Try explaining to me the fight in morocco between bourne and that agent in the third movie. I saw Bourne jump through a window and into a bathroom and then all I saw was random punches. That was awful.
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2:20PM on 12/09/2008

great timing

I got it on blu-ray last night (the IMAX scenes fill in ur entire tv on blu-ray.. its phenomenal)... and I kept thinking to myself how in gods name did this score get pushed out of the oscar race?

It better win.
I got it on blu-ray last night (the IMAX scenes fill in ur entire tv on blu-ray.. its phenomenal)... and I kept thinking to myself how in gods name did this score get pushed out of the oscar race?

It better win.
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1:49PM on 12/09/2008

It will WIN.

Nothing this year has the same kind of music feel to a film like TDK.

I am still addicted to the soundtrack now.
Nothing this year has the same kind of music feel to a film like TDK.

I am still addicted to the soundtrack now.
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1:22PM on 12/09/2008

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1:10PM on 12/09/2008

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Solid... finally someone that makes some sense on these talkbacks. I agree with the sloppy action, is was equally horrible in Begins. Solace's car chase was a disaster, BUT, as for Bourne... I recently rewatched the second and third film, and yes the cuts are fast, and the camera shakes, but you see that things flow properly in those sequences. So I can't throw those films into this mix.

The point here is Nolan deserves a few slaps on the wrist for his work on the Batman films... its 5
Solid... finally someone that makes some sense on these talkbacks. I agree with the sloppy action, is was equally horrible in Begins. Solace's car chase was a disaster, BUT, as for Bourne... I recently rewatched the second and third film, and yes the cuts are fast, and the camera shakes, but you see that things flow properly in those sequences. So I can't throw those films into this mix.

The point here is Nolan deserves a few slaps on the wrist for his work on the Batman films... its 5 steps forward, and 4 steps back. You failed dude.
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12:45PM on 12/09/2008

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12:18PM on 12/09/2008

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AWESOME!!!! See how I use the exclamation points?! That means I'm excited!! The TDK score is back!!!! That title would have worked better with more exclamation points!!! Just kidding, I don't care... they allowed this shit and didn't allow Greenwood's There will be blood score... even then, I wouldn't care. TDK isn't a good movie.
AWESOME!!!! See how I use the exclamation points?! That means I'm excited!! The TDK score is back!!!! That title would have worked better with more exclamation points!!! Just kidding, I don't care... they allowed this shit and didn't allow Greenwood's There will be blood score... even then, I wouldn't care. TDK isn't a good movie.
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12:10PM on 12/09/2008
While I really like the movie, it is not the best movie ever like often implied on this site (that honour goes to Bad Boys 2, of course). I see it getting maybe 5 nominations, with most of them in the inferior categories such as Special Effects and Sound Design or whatever those things are.
While I really like the movie, it is not the best movie ever like often implied on this site (that honour goes to Bad Boys 2, of course). I see it getting maybe 5 nominations, with most of them in the inferior categories such as Special Effects and Sound Design or whatever those things are.
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12:09PM on 12/09/2008
to win an oscar the movie needs a nomination, is very unlikely that this flick have a nomination and even worse an oscar itself, the movie is really good and is in my opinion the best superhero movie ever made but the academy just don't like superhero movies, so it is time that all the folks who are talking about TDK winning oscars please , please put the feet on the ground and stop dreaming..
to win an oscar the movie needs a nomination, is very unlikely that this flick have a nomination and even worse an oscar itself, the movie is really good and is in my opinion the best superhero movie ever made but the academy just don't like superhero movies, so it is time that all the folks who are talking about TDK winning oscars please , please put the feet on the ground and stop dreaming..
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12:05PM on 12/09/2008

@kdraines

I'll agree with you as far as the turn of Harvey Dent, (oh ok so he's bad now?) but I didn't see anything wrong with Gyllenhaal and ESPECIALLY the action sequences were pitch perfect - they were the anti-Michael Bay and IMHO much more effective because it all felt 'real' - no glory explosions or slow motion hero shots; it's a bit unexpected for an "action" movie - but not inept. This is a detective movie. This is Dirty Harry meets Hannibal Lecter.

Some of the blokes here are fanboys - of
I'll agree with you as far as the turn of Harvey Dent, (oh ok so he's bad now?) but I didn't see anything wrong with Gyllenhaal and ESPECIALLY the action sequences were pitch perfect - they were the anti-Michael Bay and IMHO much more effective because it all felt 'real' - no glory explosions or slow motion hero shots; it's a bit unexpected for an "action" movie - but not inept. This is a detective movie. This is Dirty Harry meets Hannibal Lecter.

Some of the blokes here are fanboys - of which I am not, however, on second viewing of this movie I can concur that this is in fact masterful filmmaking in SPITE of being a comic book adaptation. I don't know about the score - I've no musical expertise, but I did immensely enjoy it, and if my happiness is TDK's Oscar, so be it.
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12:05PM on 12/09/2008
to win an oscar the movie needs a nomination, is very unlikely that this flick have a nomination and even worse an oscar itself, the movie is really good and is in my opinion the best superhero movie ever made but the academy just don't like superhero movies, so it is time that all the folks who are talking about TDK winning oscars please , please put the feet on the ground and stop dreaming..
to win an oscar the movie needs a nomination, is very unlikely that this flick have a nomination and even worse an oscar itself, the movie is really good and is in my opinion the best superhero movie ever made but the academy just don't like superhero movies, so it is time that all the folks who are talking about TDK winning oscars please , please put the feet on the ground and stop dreaming..
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10:57AM on 12/09/2008

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10:45AM on 12/09/2008
the dark knight will definitely be seeing a lot of nominations, especially in the technical categories, but as far as winning goes, it has some tough competition.
the dark knight will definitely be seeing a lot of nominations, especially in the technical categories, but as far as winning goes, it has some tough competition.
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10:44AM on 12/09/2008
so is there a set list for noms yet?
so is there a set list for noms yet?
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10:43AM on 12/09/2008

Great News

Great News!... I have always loved that original score and found myself humming it in my head for a good month after both the Theatrical and DVD release of BOTH Batman Begins and the Dark Knight!!!
Great News!... I have always loved that original score and found myself humming it in my head for a good month after both the Theatrical and DVD release of BOTH Batman Begins and the Dark Knight!!!
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