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12.07.2009

I feel obligated to do a bit of rumor control on this story that’s been popping up everywhere today that during the live BD commentary on the TERMINATOR SALVATION DVD, McG proclaimed that he would be making a fifth and sixth TERMINATOR movie. This comes in the wake of the entire franchise being sold off by Halcyon, and the fact that SALVATION was considered by most to be a disappointment in every critical and commercial sense.

Here are the prime quotes from Gizmodo’s liveblog:

7:13: He just announced that he’s making another Terminator movie. Seriously.

7:16: Oh and for those people who are punching themselves in the face that he’s making another one? He said he’s making one after that.

Let’s be clear. McG is in no way authorized to proclaim that he’s actually making another TERMINATOR movie at this point. To say he WANTS to is one thing, but making that a reality is going to take some jumping through a serious amount of hoops. A bunch of hoops made out of razor wire that are all lit on fire.

But anyway, while we’re here, a few more choice quotes from the liveblog:

6:55: McG just compared his movie to The Dark Knight.

6:57: Question: how do you feel about making the horrible Charlie's Angels films?

6:57: McG: "I really like those movies. If you don't like them you can fuck off."

7:07: And now he just compared himself to Alfred Hitchcock.

7:37: Aaaaaaand he's talking about Hitler.

7:48: McG: "I'm disappointed in myself that I couldn't make the best movie." Holy shit. He just said he thought he could make a better movie than #1 or #2.

Just. Wow.

Extra Tidbit: Yay or nay on this whole live chat Blu-ray deal?
Source: Gizmodo

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4:56PM on 12/09/2009

Not horrible

Salvation wasn't horrible, overall, but the script was pretty week. McG isn't an actor's director, meaning that he doesn't know how to bring the best out his actors emotionally, but he's great at blowing shit up. He's a mini-Bay. There were times watching it that I wondered if maybe McG was thinking more about the traier for the film than the film itself. The man knows how to direct action, buthe isn't balanced enough to get the emotional moments.
Salvation wasn't horrible, overall, but the script was pretty week. McG isn't an actor's director, meaning that he doesn't know how to bring the best out his actors emotionally, but he's great at blowing shit up. He's a mini-Bay. There were times watching it that I wondered if maybe McG was thinking more about the traier for the film than the film itself. The man knows how to direct action, buthe isn't balanced enough to get the emotional moments.
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10:15PM on 12/08/2009
I really wanted to like the McG version, there is about 15 minutes of great stuff in there hidden under all the bullshit and if they didn't reveal sam worthington was a cyborg in the fucking trailer it may have been a more enjoyable film. It would take something special to bring it back like big james cameron but he's too busy playing with his smurfs.
I really wanted to like the McG version, there is about 15 minutes of great stuff in there hidden under all the bullshit and if they didn't reveal sam worthington was a cyborg in the fucking trailer it may have been a more enjoyable film. It would take something special to bring it back like big james cameron but he's too busy playing with his smurfs.
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8:27PM on 12/08/2009
TSCC > ALL TERMINATOR MOVIES.....FACT. This is where the ignorant give me more thumbs down.
TSCC > ALL TERMINATOR MOVIES.....FACT. This is where the ignorant give me more thumbs down.
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10:01PM on 12/09/2009
I've seen every episode of TSCC and I can honestly say that that show was one of the most horrifically scripted shows I ever wish doesn't suck so hard. The sleep-clinic episode? The 'friend's wife dies' episode? The 'terminator in the wall' episode? That show was beyond terrible, went absolutely no where from week to week, had the most greatly miscast lead in the history of television, and STILL had the audacity to have a series finale that indicated that the writers truly believed they
I've seen every episode of TSCC and I can honestly say that that show was one of the most horrifically scripted shows I ever wish doesn't suck so hard. The sleep-clinic episode? The 'friend's wife dies' episode? The 'terminator in the wall' episode? That show was beyond terrible, went absolutely no where from week to week, had the most greatly miscast lead in the history of television, and STILL had the audacity to have a series finale that indicated that the writers truly believed they would be getting a third season.

Fuck that shitty show.
2:02AM on 12/10/2009
LOL @ THIS GUY.
LOL @ THIS GUY.
8:19PM on 12/08/2009

Facepalm

Please Stop...that is all
Please Stop...that is all
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11:16AM on 12/08/2009
I liked the fourth one and would like to see the next two that he had planned.
I liked the fourth one and would like to see the next two that he had planned.
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7:54AM on 12/08/2009
Having just watched all four in a row, I really don't think the fourth was the weakest. It was ridiculous at times, but all four movies have been like that. It's what binds them together. I realy don't think tha lack of Arnold had any effect on this film other than it's B.O. appeal which, granted, is what makes or breaks these days. But in terms of quality it was just as good, and as bad, as the last three. So sure, McG, do some more. Maybe you'll get better at it.
Having just watched all four in a row, I really don't think the fourth was the weakest. It was ridiculous at times, but all four movies have been like that. It's what binds them together. I realy don't think tha lack of Arnold had any effect on this film other than it's B.O. appeal which, granted, is what makes or breaks these days. But in terms of quality it was just as good, and as bad, as the last three. So sure, McG, do some more. Maybe you'll get better at it.
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6:39AM on 12/08/2009
This guys a better comedian than Dylan Moran.
This guys a better comedian than Dylan Moran.
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4:51AM on 12/08/2009
Vanity Ruins you touched on the one thing I've said from before the film was even out. Without Arnold it's not Terminator! I happened to like the third film. Maybe that's because Arnold was actually in it. I soooooo wanted to like this film, and I thought with Christian Bale it had a real shot! I didn't hate the movie, but without Arnold it's just a decent action flick and nothing more. MCG if you can't get Arnold back, then don't do it again!!
Vanity Ruins you touched on the one thing I've said from before the film was even out. Without Arnold it's not Terminator! I happened to like the third film. Maybe that's because Arnold was actually in it. I soooooo wanted to like this film, and I thought with Christian Bale it had a real shot! I didn't hate the movie, but without Arnold it's just a decent action flick and nothing more. MCG if you can't get Arnold back, then don't do it again!!
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4:48AM on 12/08/2009
Vanity Ruins you touched on the one thing I've said from before the film was even out. Without Arnold it's not Terminator! I happened to like the third film. Maybe that's because Arnold was actually in it. I soooooo wanted to like this film, and I thought with Christian Bale it had a real shot! I didn't hate the movie, but without Arnold it's just a decent action flick and nothing more. MCG if you can't get Arnold back, then don't do it again!!
Vanity Ruins you touched on the one thing I've said from before the film was even out. Without Arnold it's not Terminator! I happened to like the third film. Maybe that's because Arnold was actually in it. I soooooo wanted to like this film, and I thought with Christian Bale it had a real shot! I didn't hate the movie, but without Arnold it's just a decent action flick and nothing more. MCG if you can't get Arnold back, then don't do it again!!
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4:43AM on 12/08/2009
Vanity Ruins you touched on the one thing I've said from before the film was even out. Without Arnold it's not Terminator! I happened to like the third film. Maybe that's because Arnold was actually in it. I soooooo wanted to like this film, and I thought with Christian Bale it had a real shot! I didn't hate the movie, but without Arnold it's just a decent action flick and nothing more. MCG if you can't get Arnold back, then don't do it again!!
Vanity Ruins you touched on the one thing I've said from before the film was even out. Without Arnold it's not Terminator! I happened to like the third film. Maybe that's because Arnold was actually in it. I soooooo wanted to like this film, and I thought with Christian Bale it had a real shot! I didn't hate the movie, but without Arnold it's just a decent action flick and nothing more. MCG if you can't get Arnold back, then don't do it again!!
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3:51AM on 12/08/2009
It's really no mystery as to why the movie was a commercial failure. It didn't have the Govenator in it (no, that CGI thing in the end doesn't count). The third Terminator movie was terrible, but it was still financially successful because of Arnold. They really shouldn't bother with anymore unless they can get him (or Cameron) back, which is doubtful for both. It doesn't really matter if MCG is the director or not. He hasn't displayed any kind of remarkable skill, his action scenes are
It's really no mystery as to why the movie was a commercial failure. It didn't have the Govenator in it (no, that CGI thing in the end doesn't count). The third Terminator movie was terrible, but it was still financially successful because of Arnold. They really shouldn't bother with anymore unless they can get him (or Cameron) back, which is doubtful for both. It doesn't really matter if MCG is the director or not. He hasn't displayed any kind of remarkable skill, his action scenes are mildly impressive, but it's the story in-between the explosions that he doesn't seem to be able to handle.
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1:56AM on 12/08/2009
I think people are generally being a little too harsh on McG. Sure, the movie bombed ass at the box office, but I don't think that's entirely his fault. Sure, TS wasn't all that we hoped for, but I'm sure he gave it his all when making this film. I just don't think Terminator has the same appeal as when Cameron and Arnie were doing it. I highly doubt that TS would have much done better theatrically with better critical reception. I just think this franchise is on it's way out and whomever they
I think people are generally being a little too harsh on McG. Sure, the movie bombed ass at the box office, but I don't think that's entirely his fault. Sure, TS wasn't all that we hoped for, but I'm sure he gave it his all when making this film. I just don't think Terminator has the same appeal as when Cameron and Arnie were doing it. I highly doubt that TS would have much done better theatrically with better critical reception. I just think this franchise is on it's way out and whomever they get to do the next 2 movies isn't going to produce higher numbers at the box office.
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4:48AM on 12/08/2009
I disagree with you there. I honestly think the reason it didn't do as well is because it didn't feel like a Terminator film without Arnie! He is the Terminator, and without him these films won't have the same film as the previous one's.
I disagree with you there. I honestly think the reason it didn't do as well is because it didn't feel like a Terminator film without Arnie! He is the Terminator, and without him these films won't have the same film as the previous one's.
12:13AM on 12/08/2009
They should use the Sarah Connor Chronicles story and cast for all future Terminator movies.
They should use the Sarah Connor Chronicles story and cast for all future Terminator movies.
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12:09AM on 12/08/2009
F*&K Off McG. You suck. You do not make great movies. You do not make good movies. You make movies that end up on the dollar racks at small town shops that also sell gold flaked plaques of elvis for 9.99.

In all honesty though, Salvation was fun; not good. There is a difference. McG may be able to make a bus explode well, but he just has B movie tattooed on his ass.

And how DARE you compare you film to TDK. How dare you sir. And then he compared himself to Cameron??? WHat's he
F*&K Off McG. You suck. You do not make great movies. You do not make good movies. You make movies that end up on the dollar racks at small town shops that also sell gold flaked plaques of elvis for 9.99.

In all honesty though, Salvation was fun; not good. There is a difference. McG may be able to make a bus explode well, but he just has B movie tattooed on his ass.

And how DARE you compare you film to TDK. How dare you sir. And then he compared himself to Cameron??? WHat's he smoking, cause I want some.
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11:56PM on 12/07/2009

Jeez

...I think we could use some more Terminator movies. It's a good thing the people who didn't like it are in the minority.
...I think we could use some more Terminator movies. It's a good thing the people who didn't like it are in the minority.
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2:13AM on 12/08/2009
For sure! I thought it was great just to see another terminator movie, and I actually thought it was good too.
For sure! I thought it was great just to see another terminator movie, and I actually thought it was good too.
11:45PM on 12/07/2009

Chill!

I enjoyed T:S despite its plot holes. The terminator franchise has been ripe with plot holes since the beginning, that's not the point. The point is the fun, and I definitely had fun watching the film. It wasn't great, but it wasn't the shitpile everyone's claiming it was. I'd be up for two more movies for sure. And if they get good enough writers, they can fill up a few of those plot holes with a simple lesson in modern time travel theories.
I enjoyed T:S despite its plot holes. The terminator franchise has been ripe with plot holes since the beginning, that's not the point. The point is the fun, and I definitely had fun watching the film. It wasn't great, but it wasn't the shitpile everyone's claiming it was. I'd be up for two more movies for sure. And if they get good enough writers, they can fill up a few of those plot holes with a simple lesson in modern time travel theories.
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11:44PM on 12/07/2009
I actually thought it was a very good film. I think thats one of the problems with sequels. They will always be compared to the previous films and to most people will not hold up. If you had never seen the previous films and this is the first terminator movie you saw, some of you might not be so critical about it.
I actually thought it was a very good film. I think thats one of the problems with sequels. They will always be compared to the previous films and to most people will not hold up. If you had never seen the previous films and this is the first terminator movie you saw, some of you might not be so critical about it.
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11:11PM on 12/07/2009
wonders how many lines of coke McG did during the live chat... seriously
wonders how many lines of coke McG did during the live chat... seriously
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11:07PM on 12/07/2009

T4

MOTO TERMINATORS
MOTO TERMINATORS
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11:03PM on 12/07/2009
idon't like Mcg but honestly the movie wasn't that bad I think people just expected too much out of it. it is in no way T1 or T2 but it's alright.
idon't like Mcg but honestly the movie wasn't that bad I think people just expected too much out of it. it is in no way T1 or T2 but it's alright.
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9:35PM on 12/07/2009
From most of what I have seen TS seems to be split down the middle of people who hate it and people who love it. Regardless of my personal feelings to the film I am massivly in love with the people who say it sucks for the "plot holes" and "overacting". My advice go back and watch the old films and witness...plot holes and bad acting. To defend McG on one thing he certainly got that right.
From most of what I have seen TS seems to be split down the middle of people who hate it and people who love it. Regardless of my personal feelings to the film I am massivly in love with the people who say it sucks for the "plot holes" and "overacting". My advice go back and watch the old films and witness...plot holes and bad acting. To defend McG on one thing he certainly got that right.
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9:26PM on 12/07/2009
Terminator: Salvation was a piece of shit full of plot holes, bad story, bad dialogue, bad acting, bad directing. I can't believe there are actual fans defending it. Just goes to show how far audience standards have slid into the gutter.
Terminator: Salvation was a piece of shit full of plot holes, bad story, bad dialogue, bad acting, bad directing. I can't believe there are actual fans defending it. Just goes to show how far audience standards have slid into the gutter.
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9:42PM on 12/07/2009
I completely agree with you. It was an aberration of a film and I can't believe it's found the amount of fans it has.
I completely agree with you. It was an aberration of a film and I can't believe it's found the amount of fans it has.
2:10AM on 12/08/2009
Gotta say I disagree with you. It sounds like you had your mind made up before you even saw it.
Gotta say I disagree with you. It sounds like you had your mind made up before you even saw it.
9:26PM on 12/07/2009

Well...

After having watched the flick, it was expertly made but not entertaing. What it lacked was a likable lead. I now dislike Bale, well I've disliked him since Shaft but even more now. Worthington just needs to work on his accent and the cat will be around for a good long while. Everyone else Bloodgood, Common, Yelchin and Howard all went to work and performed admirably but the movie wasn't entertaining but CGI Arnold was a nice touch however for me.
After having watched the flick, it was expertly made but not entertaing. What it lacked was a likable lead. I now dislike Bale, well I've disliked him since Shaft but even more now. Worthington just needs to work on his accent and the cat will be around for a good long while. Everyone else Bloodgood, Common, Yelchin and Howard all went to work and performed admirably but the movie wasn't entertaining but CGI Arnold was a nice touch however for me.
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9:02PM on 12/07/2009
TS was a good movie. People are way, way too critical of movies nowadays, just watch it and shut up, seriously, lol.
TS was a good movie. People are way, way too critical of movies nowadays, just watch it and shut up, seriously, lol.
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8:06PM on 12/07/2009
What the hell is this livechat jive? Terminator just needs to end. I'm not just saying McG shouldn't be apart of it anymore but that it should just be over altogether. Judgment Day ended it perfectly. Now they're just releasing vastly inferior sequels to make a buck.
What the hell is this livechat jive? Terminator just needs to end. I'm not just saying McG shouldn't be apart of it anymore but that it should just be over altogether. Judgment Day ended it perfectly. Now they're just releasing vastly inferior sequels to make a buck.
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8:03PM on 12/07/2009

boobies

i watched TS for a second time a couple of days ago and it turns out that the movie pretty much rocks. Needless to say its not as good as the first or second, but (IMO) in no way does it deserve all this hate. It seems that in the negative comments about this movie people just say McG=douche instead of why they dislike the movie.

If it were a stand alone movie not affiliated to the terminator franchise, i wonder if people would have been able to enjoy it more

A couple things i would have
i watched TS for a second time a couple of days ago and it turns out that the movie pretty much rocks. Needless to say its not as good as the first or second, but (IMO) in no way does it deserve all this hate. It seems that in the negative comments about this movie people just say McG=douche instead of why they dislike the movie.

If it were a stand alone movie not affiliated to the terminator franchise, i wonder if people would have been able to enjoy it more

A couple things i would have done differently if i had made it: the future would have been darker, more closely resembling the future portrayed in the James Cameron films. The future just seemed to sunny... and i also would have thrown in a couple phase plasma rifles in the 40W range, but thats just me.

overall I thought it was a good setup for a trilogy and is deserving of some more installments...

couple of semi-spoilers.... now that john connor is the sole leader of the humans they can really get down to the good shit, and the part with Schwarzenegger was fuckin cool and very well done.
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8:00PM on 12/07/2009
I'd like to see one more terminator film to wrap everything up. As for McG, Hasta La Vista, Baby.
I'd like to see one more terminator film to wrap everything up. As for McG, Hasta La Vista, Baby.
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7:33PM on 12/07/2009
All of you "Terminator Salvation" haters need to get over yourselves. Bunch of whiners, nitpicking at everything. "Terminator Salvation" was a kick ass movie and I absolutely can not wait for a 5th and 6th entry.
All of you "Terminator Salvation" haters need to get over yourselves. Bunch of whiners, nitpicking at everything. "Terminator Salvation" was a kick ass movie and I absolutely can not wait for a 5th and 6th entry.
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2:08AM on 12/08/2009
Right on! What's with everybody tearing it apart? I saw it in the theater and enjoyed it.
Right on! What's with everybody tearing it apart? I saw it in the theater and enjoyed it.
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7:24PM on 12/07/2009

why all the hostility

I don't understand why people are hating on it so much. I don't think it matters who produced the movie, whether it was McG or anyone else the movie wasn't that bad. Granted nothing will ever be as good as T1 or T2 however TS was WAY better then T3. So why are we knocking on it so bad. At least it explained some shit as opposed to just made up more retarded shit like T3 to fill space. It's a spacer movie between the beginning and the end of the franchise. It can only go up from here.
I don't understand why people are hating on it so much. I don't think it matters who produced the movie, whether it was McG or anyone else the movie wasn't that bad. Granted nothing will ever be as good as T1 or T2 however TS was WAY better then T3. So why are we knocking on it so bad. At least it explained some shit as opposed to just made up more retarded shit like T3 to fill space. It's a spacer movie between the beginning and the end of the franchise. It can only go up from here.
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7:15PM on 12/07/2009

we have a word for people like McG in the UK...

TWAT!
TWAT!
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7:08PM on 12/07/2009

No!

No. No. No. The man is a menace to any franchise he touches.
No. No. No. The man is a menace to any franchise he touches.
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6:48PM on 12/07/2009

Fuck offfff!!!!

I really hate to be "that guy" but I wish McG would get a damn clue and NOT make anymore Terminator abominations!! Watching "Salvation" made me physically ill! It was more of a Transformers flick than a Terminator film. Granted, he had a legion of irate fans to please but his outlandish ego is what made the movie so f'n bad!
I really hate to be "that guy" but I wish McG would get a damn clue and NOT make anymore Terminator abominations!! Watching "Salvation" made me physically ill! It was more of a Transformers flick than a Terminator film. Granted, he had a legion of irate fans to please but his outlandish ego is what made the movie so f'n bad!
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6:45PM on 12/07/2009

Awesome!!!

All i have to say is BRING IT ON!!!
All i have to say is BRING IT ON!!!
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6:36PM on 12/07/2009
I enjoyed T:S. It certainly wasnt The Dark Knight and it didnt even come close to Terminator 2, but still entertaining. I kinda dug Bale as an older John Conner and I really liked Anton Yelnick as a younger Reese. Its just too bad McG is such a douche that it is hard to stick up for this movie. Seriously, he just pulled a fucking Uwe Boll here. And yes the Charlie's Angels movies are so far from even resembling entertainment.

I also dont see the big deal about saying that he is disspointed
I enjoyed T:S. It certainly wasnt The Dark Knight and it didnt even come close to Terminator 2, but still entertaining. I kinda dug Bale as an older John Conner and I really liked Anton Yelnick as a younger Reese. Its just too bad McG is such a douche that it is hard to stick up for this movie. Seriously, he just pulled a fucking Uwe Boll here. And yes the Charlie's Angels movies are so far from even resembling entertainment.

I also dont see the big deal about saying that he is disspointed he didnt make the best installment of the series. I mean, come on. Wouldnt that always be the goal in making a sequel. Even the biggest McG hater should give him a pass for that.
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6:12PM on 12/07/2009

ugh

only mcg could make bale, bloodgood, and sam look like douches...MCG here is a thought, maybe stop lying, stop suckign everyones knobs to get your films going, and go make a 3rd charlies angels, only make an asian bosley this time
only mcg could make bale, bloodgood, and sam look like douches...MCG here is a thought, maybe stop lying, stop suckign everyones knobs to get your films going, and go make a 3rd charlies angels, only make an asian bosley this time
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6:04PM on 12/07/2009

Let it be..

This is probabaly as good a place as any to leave the Terminator franchise--unless someone can come up with a cool concept for the next one: like Reese going back in time but the timeline gets screwed up..lots of possibilities but I think the well has run dry, at least for now. Besides a few cool scenes, T: Salvation was pretty dumb overall, and mostly pointless..
This is probabaly as good a place as any to leave the Terminator franchise--unless someone can come up with a cool concept for the next one: like Reese going back in time but the timeline gets screwed up..lots of possibilities but I think the well has run dry, at least for now. Besides a few cool scenes, T: Salvation was pretty dumb overall, and mostly pointless..
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5:58PM on 12/07/2009
This doesn't make much sense but then it does.. just like the time traveling in the movie but hear me out. Why is John Connor trying to find Kyle Reese to send him back in time if it already happened? The actions of sending good Arnold back in time to product young john connor is what made Bale-John Connor the different person that he is today. Thus changing the future. Kyle Reese was already sent back.. so why send him again? Isn't this just an entirely new alternate universe that we're
This doesn't make much sense but then it does.. just like the time traveling in the movie but hear me out. Why is John Connor trying to find Kyle Reese to send him back in time if it already happened? The actions of sending good Arnold back in time to product young john connor is what made Bale-John Connor the different person that he is today. Thus changing the future. Kyle Reese was already sent back.. so why send him again? Isn't this just an entirely new alternate universe that we're seeing? Is this assuming that the Terminators would send another Arnold terminator back in time again too? How do they know that?

My head hurts.. but yeah... I think that makes sense.. ha
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3:40AM on 12/09/2009
yes in the future reese and arnold were sent back to our past. but it hasnt hppenened yet. and if (lets say) something did happen to reese because connor knows the future and can therefore alter it. then he could possibly be erased from exsistence.

if you watch T:TSCC then you would see that syber dyne actually sent back lots of terminators to do many different things. from collecting and stock piling materails for the constructoin of other terminators too actully speeding up the development
yes in the future reese and arnold were sent back to our past. but it hasnt hppenened yet. and if (lets say) something did happen to reese because connor knows the future and can therefore alter it. then he could possibly be erased from exsistence.

if you watch T:TSCC then you would see that syber dyne actually sent back lots of terminators to do many different things. from collecting and stock piling materails for the constructoin of other terminators too actully speeding up the development of skynet. jugement day changes from time to time
5:32PM on 12/07/2009

Why does this guy lie about everything?

He's compulsive as far as fibbing goes. Anyone remember McG claiming the director's cut of T:S would be almost a half-hour longer in runtime? Yeah... turns out he exaggerated a bit. Strange thing is that he lies about some of the most pointless stuff in an attempt to cover himself.
He's compulsive as far as fibbing goes. Anyone remember McG claiming the director's cut of T:S would be almost a half-hour longer in runtime? Yeah... turns out he exaggerated a bit. Strange thing is that he lies about some of the most pointless stuff in an attempt to cover himself.
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5:31PM on 12/07/2009
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Terminator'd Salvation did not suck and I'm actually excited at the prospect of at least one more sequel. I'd be very interested in how they might play with the origins of the T-1000 and sending Kyle back in time which they can't just hint at and not do at this point.

And on a completely unrelated note, Dark Knight wasn't that good people. Bruce Wayne had about a much charracter development in that film as Gordon did in the first one. A Batman
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Terminator'd Salvation did not suck and I'm actually excited at the prospect of at least one more sequel. I'd be very interested in how they might play with the origins of the T-1000 and sending Kyle back in time which they can't just hint at and not do at this point.

And on a completely unrelated note, Dark Knight wasn't that good people. Bruce Wayne had about a much charracter development in that film as Gordon did in the first one. A Batman movie where Batman isn't the main charracter may be a good movie, but it isn't a good Batman movie.
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6:13PM on 12/07/2009
So far, there has only been ONE Batman movie where Batman was actually the main character and that was Batman Begins, so....

No matter how you slice it, TDK >>> T4,
So far, there has only been ONE Batman movie where Batman was actually the main character and that was Batman Begins, so....

No matter how you slice it, TDK >>> T4,
9:42PM on 12/07/2009
Oh, I deffinatly didn't say T4 was better than Dark Knight. I just hate that people put the movie on such a high pedistal that any comparison to the film if immediatly taken as blasphomy. Dark Knight was good but a masterpiece it was not.
Oh, I deffinatly didn't say T4 was better than Dark Knight. I just hate that people put the movie on such a high pedistal that any comparison to the film if immediatly taken as blasphomy. Dark Knight was good but a masterpiece it was not.
5:31PM on 12/07/2009

What a DOUCHE

People wanna hate on Ratner but I've always thought McG is the worst of the new gen.
People wanna hate on Ratner but I've always thought McG is the worst of the new gen.
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5:14PM on 12/07/2009

Okay

I don't get all of the hate for T:S. I thought it was pretty good, and way better than T3. McG comparing it to Dark Knight and himself to Hitchcock is pretty retarded, though, and perhaps it's best to just leave it at four movies.
I don't get all of the hate for T:S. I thought it was pretty good, and way better than T3. McG comparing it to Dark Knight and himself to Hitchcock is pretty retarded, though, and perhaps it's best to just leave it at four movies.
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4:37PM on 12/07/2009
McG is clown-shoes.
McG is clown-shoes.
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4:32PM on 12/07/2009

This Just in!

Ratner vs McG for the most self absorbed director to made horribly mediocre installments in franchises that prior were doing quite well.

And yes the 3rd Terminator wasn't that bad, wasn't all that good but it wasn't that bad either.

My money is on Ratners ego kills McG's and eats it's babies.
Ratner vs McG for the most self absorbed director to made horribly mediocre installments in franchises that prior were doing quite well.

And yes the 3rd Terminator wasn't that bad, wasn't all that good but it wasn't that bad either.

My money is on Ratners ego kills McG's and eats it's babies.
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4:29PM on 12/07/2009

this dude sucks

salvation was a total piece of crap, like it's self loving talentless director.
salvation was a total piece of crap, like it's self loving talentless director.
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4:26PM on 12/07/2009

Why, Why, WHY?

Why do they always do this? A movie comes out that has been directed by someone with half a brain and some vision. It turns out that it's REALLY good. Then, some company takes that movie and places it in the hands of a fucking idiot for a sequel, like they are saying, "Lets see how many people like it after this ass director is done with it."

Are they testing us or something? I don't get it. Here is a rule of thumb, if your name is only 3 letters [or in other words, NOT a FUCKING NAME!] you
Why do they always do this? A movie comes out that has been directed by someone with half a brain and some vision. It turns out that it's REALLY good. Then, some company takes that movie and places it in the hands of a fucking idiot for a sequel, like they are saying, "Lets see how many people like it after this ass director is done with it."

Are they testing us or something? I don't get it. Here is a rule of thumb, if your name is only 3 letters [or in other words, NOT a FUCKING NAME!] you should stick to directing adult diaper commercials!

Maybe in a past life or something McG, was M.C. G, like he worked the turn tables or somethin', mixing music at a night club. Then, one day some one got sick and tired of his shitty music, shot him in the face and he was reincarnated as a director.

I wonder what MICHALE BAY was in a past life.
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4:20PM on 12/07/2009

Randomhero24???

Now... I'm not one to slam ones opinion, and to your credit, Salvation wasn't too bad. I was disappointed, but I think it woulda been hard not to be... That being said;

I don't think this report was to express that they don't want him to do another Terminator... Just that McG is fucking delusional. I.E. - He compares his film to THE DARK KNIGHT, he compares himself to Hitchcock, he thought he could do a better job than Cameron, Charlies Angels was a good movie???? Really??? You have to
Now... I'm not one to slam ones opinion, and to your credit, Salvation wasn't too bad. I was disappointed, but I think it woulda been hard not to be... That being said;

I don't think this report was to express that they don't want him to do another Terminator... Just that McG is fucking delusional. I.E. - He compares his film to THE DARK KNIGHT, he compares himself to Hitchcock, he thought he could do a better job than Cameron, Charlies Angels was a good movie???? Really??? You have to admit, not all this guys dogs are barkin.
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4:08PM on 12/07/2009

Fuck off.

Fuck you, JoBlo. Seriously. I mean that with all my heart.

I hope he makes these films not just to piss you off directly, but because Salvation was simply awesome.
Fuck you, JoBlo. Seriously. I mean that with all my heart.

I hope he makes these films not just to piss you off directly, but because Salvation was simply awesome.
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4:13PM on 12/07/2009
Ummmmm....... fuck you, too?
Ummmmm....... fuck you, too?
4:22PM on 12/07/2009
You are either McG himself, or just a guy with terrible taste in movies.

Wait, that's redundant.
You are either McG himself, or just a guy with terrible taste in movies.

Wait, that's redundant.
4:24PM on 12/07/2009
cool story, bro.
cool story, bro.
5:01PM on 12/07/2009
Not cool at all man.
Dont say fuck you to people on this site especially Joblo.
If you cant be respectful dont come on here.
Not cool at all man.
Dont say fuck you to people on this site especially Joblo.
If you cant be respectful dont come on here.
5:03PM on 12/07/2009
What the fuck did I do??!
What the fuck did I do??!
5:19PM on 12/07/2009
haha I love Joblo's response to this... But randomhero, grow up man.
haha I love Joblo's response to this... But randomhero, grow up man.
5:58PM on 12/07/2009
I stopped reading the Aint It Cool News talkbacks because of posts like this.

It was worth it, however, for smoothluv's comment - which absolutely killed me.
I stopped reading the Aint It Cool News talkbacks because of posts like this.

It was worth it, however, for smoothluv's comment - which absolutely killed me.
3:48AM on 12/09/2009
LOL. some one woke up on the wrong side of the bed! why would you just aTtack joblo like that he didnt write the article. did he?
LOL. some one woke up on the wrong side of the bed! why would you just aTtack joblo like that he didnt write the article. did he?
3:48PM on 12/07/2009

On 'Salvation'

It was not terrible. And there's more than a few moments where its actually really, really good. But McG just doesn't have the kind of clout or balls that a Chris Nolan or James Cameron has to say 'fuck you' to the producers and studio heads who want to make a commercial instead of a legitimately good film. Hence we get balls-less endings, irrelevant characters and a humdrum plot.
It was not terrible. And there's more than a few moments where its actually really, really good. But McG just doesn't have the kind of clout or balls that a Chris Nolan or James Cameron has to say 'fuck you' to the producers and studio heads who want to make a commercial instead of a legitimately good film. Hence we get balls-less endings, irrelevant characters and a humdrum plot.
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4:13PM on 12/07/2009
What were these "few moments that were actually really, really good?" Cuz what I saw was terrible from opening to closing credits.

McG lacks the balls to stand up to studio heads because he probably realizes that he also lacks the talent to deliver a quality product.

I swear every bit of news we get about this guy makes me hate him even more. Just stop making movies, dude. Seriously. You're not good at it.
What were these "few moments that were actually really, really good?" Cuz what I saw was terrible from opening to closing credits.

McG lacks the balls to stand up to studio heads because he probably realizes that he also lacks the talent to deliver a quality product.

I swear every bit of news we get about this guy makes me hate him even more. Just stop making movies, dude. Seriously. You're not good at it.
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3:45PM on 12/07/2009

Mr. McG

i am turkish but i like to say this in american accent:

Tits on a boar.

i am turkish but i like to say this in american accent:

Tits on a boar.

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4:16PM on 12/07/2009
That is a fuckin' fantastic avatar. Kudos.
That is a fuckin' fantastic avatar. Kudos.
3:37PM on 12/07/2009
You're going to tell me that George Clooney was a better Batman than Christian Bale? Yikes.
You're going to tell me that George Clooney was a better Batman than Christian Bale? Yikes.
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3:32PM on 12/07/2009
Bale was better at playing Connr then he was at Batman, because Adam West was the only one worse at playing Batman.

And McG did make a better film than The Dark Knight as well.
Bale was better at playing Connr then he was at Batman, because Adam West was the only one worse at playing Batman.

And McG did make a better film than The Dark Knight as well.
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3:48PM on 12/07/2009
bloody hell.
bloody hell.
4:00PM on 12/07/2009
McG, is that you??
McG, is that you??
4:51AM on 12/08/2009
Are you crazy? No way Salvation was better than The Dark Knight!!!
Are you crazy? No way Salvation was better than The Dark Knight!!!
3:18PM on 12/07/2009
Really? It's one thing for McG to try and revive the Terminator series and fail horribly and another for him to actually fail horribly but think he succeeded. With these comments this asshole is flying into the Uwe Boll zone.
Really? It's one thing for McG to try and revive the Terminator series and fail horribly and another for him to actually fail horribly but think he succeeded. With these comments this asshole is flying into the Uwe Boll zone.
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3:16PM on 12/07/2009
Christian Bale as John Conner > C.B. as Batman
Christian Bale as John Conner > C.B. as Batman
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2:54PM on 12/07/2009
he seems pretty over-confident. comparing his movie to TDK? HA!
he seems pretty over-confident. comparing his movie to TDK? HA!
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2:49PM on 12/07/2009

McG Has Always Been A Moron...

"I like those movies. If you don't like them, fuck off."

Real mature, dude. This is also the same pussy who just stood there while one of his actors ripped the DP a new asshole, and worst of all, didn't even see what the DP was doing that pissed Bale off in the first place.
"I like those movies. If you don't like them, fuck off."

Real mature, dude. This is also the same pussy who just stood there while one of his actors ripped the DP a new asshole, and worst of all, didn't even see what the DP was doing that pissed Bale off in the first place.
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2:46PM on 12/07/2009
Who names them self McG? A Douche bag.
Who names them self McG? A Douche bag.
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2:46PM on 12/07/2009

Seriously..

McG looks like he's determined to be the next Uwe Boll.. Guess these 2 should buddy up for 5 and 6. Then we'll have something to go head-to-head with the Tintin movies made by 2 guys at the other end of the movie-making talent spectrum.
McG looks like he's determined to be the next Uwe Boll.. Guess these 2 should buddy up for 5 and 6. Then we'll have something to go head-to-head with the Tintin movies made by 2 guys at the other end of the movie-making talent spectrum.
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