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TERMINATOR SALVATION was supposed to be the relaunch of a new saga in the TERMINATOR franchise. One that would lean on a new action hero, Christian Bale's John Connor, and not the aging Governor of California. That sadly didn't happen. While the film performed somewhat respectfully (a total of $370+ million overall), a vast majority of that was from international ticket sales with the $125 million in the US a big disappointment for Warner Bros.
Meanwhile, TERMINATOR rights holder Halcyon was in all kinds of financial straits and needed to unload the property to avoid bankruptcy. So they put the rights to future TERMINATOR films, TV series, spinoffs, etc. up for auction. The franchise received mild interest across the board but Sony Pictures (who handled the aforementioned international distribution for SALVATION) and Lionsgate were interested enough to place bids. Strangely, neither of them won.
The two studios who could actually make a new TERMINATOR film were outbid by Pacificor. Who? Exactly. They're a hedge fund based in Los Angeles and not quite coincidentally the same group that forced Halcyon into bankruptcy filings. Pacificor, which sounds like an evil corporation directly from a TERMINATOR film, is obviously not set up to produce or distribute any kind of movie so where does the franchise go from here?
Financially, it'll all get worked out in the wash. Sony Pictures was said to be infuriated by Pacificor's bidding and is probably walking away from the franchise wholesale. It's unclear if Lionsgate would be interested in working on some kind of deal but Summit Entertainment is reportedly interested in making a TERMINATOR film.
But you nor I are here because we love reading about how Hollywood executives make money. We're here because we love movies. And creatively TERMINATOR has a much larger struggle ahead of it.

I know McG is still out and about talking about his ideas for his new trilogy of TERMINATOR films but after SALVATION, do we really care about McG's vision? SALVATION largely ignored the film that came before it, RISE OF THE MACHINES, and if you bring in a new creative team, there's a big chance it will largely ignore SALVATION with a new storyline. And honestly if you're going to make a sequel that ignores the previous two sequels, I'm got a radical proposition: just nuke the damn thing and start from scratch.
The term "reboot" is the new "remake" in Hollywood and the latest trend in making movies (see DAREDEVIL, MR. AND MRS. SMITH, etc.). I normally wouldn't advocate something so cliched for a franchise so beloved but the cinematic TERMINATOR mythology has become so muddled the only way to make a creatively successful film at this point is to head back to Square One. Find yourself a writer and director who can map out a new trilogy of TERMINATOR films with a brand new film. A new T-800, a new Kyle Reese, a new Sarah Connor, etc. Think STAR TREK. That sounded like a horrible idea at first and Trekkies were up in arms but then look what happened - JJ Abrams is a genius and film was legitimately discussed as a Best Picture contender.
Think about it: a TERMINATOR film shouldn't cost that much money. Future sequels that delve a little deeper into Skynet could expand on the first, but if you're going to reboot TERMINATOR, you could do it at a relatively inexpensive price. Before it became about trying to come up with the craziest design for the latest Terminator robots, it was a really a small-scale character-based film wrapped in a neat, little action/sci-fi bundle. A studio out there could take a risk on the relaunch without much to lose financially. If it works, awesome! If not, could it really be any worse than SALVATION?
I know rebooting the TERMINATOR franchise is a radical proposition but desperate times call for desperate measures. I would never call for rebooting a property unless I really felt that all the life had been drained from the current iteration. And honestly another sequel would just dig us deeper and deeper into a hole that would be tougher to climb out of.
Source: JoBlo.com
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If you dont like it, you can spend the rest of the year jerking off to Iron Man 2 trailers.
T4 worked, its not our fault that your country didnt like it.
EMILY BLUNT AS KATE CONNER!!
If you dont like it, you can spend the rest of the year jerking off to Iron Man 2 trailers.
T4 worked, its not our fault that your country didnt like it.
EMILY BLUNT AS KATE CONNER!!
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Think up a new terminator and have it go back in time and kill John Connor (CGI edward furlong? Linda Hamilton circa T1? whatever). That is the opening. Then show Judgement Day. Fast-forward to the war. Do a new story about the resistance with a new leader and a different cast of characters. Fuck...
Think up a new terminator and have it go back in time and kill John Connor (CGI edward furlong? Linda Hamilton circa T1? whatever). That is the opening. Then show Judgement Day. Fast-forward to the war. Do a new story about the resistance with a new leader and a different cast of characters. Fuck John Connor. What good did he ever do anyway?
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I say... Make ALFONSO CUARON direct!
I say... Make ALFONSO CUARON direct!
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I thought salvation was alright, perfect? No. But it had enough in it to keep me satisfied.
And as for the series, it's future is in jeopardy because of one key plot element that will eventually have to be addressed practically. How do a...
I thought salvation was alright, perfect? No. But it had enough in it to keep me satisfied.
And as for the series, it's future is in jeopardy because of one key plot element that will eventually have to be addressed practically. How do a group of survivors of a nuclear fallout create time travel? And how come they only go back in time and not forwards? HMMMMM? Big Plot Hole
Instead of rebooting it, they should create a film that falls within the first 3, now that John has knowledge of his past, wouldn't he use it to try and alter what has happened previously? Like use time travel to destroy, the chip before Dyson gets his hands on it?
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Rebooting is a waste of time and money.
Rebooting is a waste of time and money.
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OK, so the problem arrives when you analyse Kyle Reese being John Connor's father. Clearly, in the first timeline, this is impossible; because there would have needed to be a father-less John Connor and biology doesn't work that way.
OK, so the problem arrives when you analyse Kyle Reese being John Connor's father. Clearly, in the first timeline, this is impossible; because there would have needed to be a father-less John Connor and biology doesn't work that way.
So lets assume that little John isn't the one who's special; it's his mother, Sarah. In the original timeline her guidance and teaching developed a different - but equal - saviour of mankind, who sent Kyle Reese back to save him thus causing John to be the new son for subsequent timelines.
And you know why this works? "No Fate But What We Make" (I'm paraphrasing) The saviour isn't born, he isn't prophecised; he's made. And, what's more, he's made by normal humans.
BAM! Someone at Sony write me a cheque.
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