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08.10.2015

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Plot points are sparse when it comes to J.J. Abrams' upcoming STAR WARS film, even in the trailers. The first TV spot has arrived and while it doesn't showcase much in the way of new footage, we do get an idea of the sizable army the First Order has. The box containing the new Stormtrooper action figure that premiered at this year's San Diego Comic Con gave us some insight into The First Order, stating that "Stormtrooper legions were scattered in the aftermath of the Empire’s fall. Now, the rise of the First Order ushers in the next chapter in the Stormtrooper’s legacy as a new era of ruthless brutality begins." See for yourself in the preview below!

I know there are a lot of STAR WARS fans who were disappointed that the new films wouldn't be following the novels that detailed a post-RETURN OF THE JEDI future, but Abrams and crew look like they've put together an equally compelling story. One thing sorely missing in the prequels was a real sense of danger for our heroes, and it's great to see that put back into the mix. 4 months from now, we'll see if Abrams can pull off what Lucas couldn't.

STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS opens on December 18, 2015.

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11:46PM on 08/10/2015
So the Empire did fall.
So the Empire did fall.
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2:43PM on 08/10/2015
That first new shot in the trailer looks badass. So excited!
That first new shot in the trailer looks badass. So excited!
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1:53PM on 08/10/2015
Headless AT-AT walkers spotted in the far right of the New Order shot.
Headless AT-AT walkers spotted in the far right of the New Order shot.
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1:11PM on 08/10/2015

My ticket was already bought

but this tv spot leaves me more excited for this movie. Disney is promoting this movie well.
but this tv spot leaves me more excited for this movie. Disney is promoting this movie well.
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12:13PM on 08/10/2015
Still looks, but more importantly, Force Awakens sounds GREAT! Cannot wait for Christmas!
Still looks, but more importantly, Force Awakens sounds GREAT! Cannot wait for Christmas!
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11:45AM on 08/10/2015
The more and more I see and read about this, the more it's starting to look like a tiresome politically correct retread of the Original Trilogy rather than a natural progression of the larger story.

I don't care how many rationalizations are back engineered to explain the Empire still being around 35 years after their defeat. It's poodoo both in terms of logistics and in terms of the narrative.
The more and more I see and read about this, the more it's starting to look like a tiresome politically correct retread of the Original Trilogy rather than a natural progression of the larger story.

I don't care how many rationalizations are back engineered to explain the Empire still being around 35 years after their defeat. It's poodoo both in terms of logistics and in terms of the narrative.
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11:50AM on 08/10/2015
Politically correct retread? Huh? That's the first time I've heard that complaint about this movie. Also, from what I understand, and I may be wrong, this isn't the Empire but rather some new group that is taking on their iconography and ideals. Kind of like Neo-Nazis. They aren't Nazis, but they fancy themselves Nazis.
Politically correct retread? Huh? That's the first time I've heard that complaint about this movie. Also, from what I understand, and I may be wrong, this isn't the Empire but rather some new group that is taking on their iconography and ideals. Kind of like Neo-Nazis. They aren't Nazis, but they fancy themselves Nazis.
12:45PM on 08/10/2015
Well, I guess there's a first time for everything, right?

The problem with the Neo-Nazi analogy, is that Neo-Nazis don't present a formidable military threat. They're mostly just a disorganized collection of a few crazies easily handled by local police.
Well, I guess there's a first time for everything, right?

The problem with the Neo-Nazi analogy, is that Neo-Nazis don't present a formidable military threat. They're mostly just a disorganized collection of a few crazies easily handled by local police.
12:47PM on 08/10/2015
So the neo-empire is better organized than neo-Nazis, I'm not sure what your point is.
So the neo-empire is better organized than neo-Nazis, I'm not sure what your point is.
1:00PM on 08/10/2015
My point is that a Neo-Empire concept is unbelievable at best, and boring narrative wise at worst.
My point is that a Neo-Empire concept is unbelievable at best, and boring narrative wise at worst.
1:06PM on 08/10/2015
A better analogy would be IS taking over from Al-Qaeda, or Vladimir Putin trying to revive the old Soviet Union. But TYB's point still stands: it's possible for a new group to take on the mantle of the former Empire, especially among people who did well under that regime.

If nothing else, THE FORCE AWAKENS is worth catching for the stellar cast.
A better analogy would be IS taking over from Al-Qaeda, or Vladimir Putin trying to revive the old Soviet Union. But TYB's point still stands: it's possible for a new group to take on the mantle of the former Empire, especially among people who did well under that regime.

If nothing else, THE FORCE AWAKENS is worth catching for the stellar cast.
1:17PM on 08/10/2015
Putin attempting to revive the old Soviet Union is a much better analogy. Regardless, the primary problem with centrally planned empires is that when the center is taken out, the rest falls like a house of cards. History is replete with such examples, so I don't think TYB's point stands at all.

But ultimately more importantly, a "remnants of the Empire" scenario is just boring, and plays like bad fan fic. It robs the audience of the "what happens next" factor. I'm interested in seeing
Putin attempting to revive the old Soviet Union is a much better analogy. Regardless, the primary problem with centrally planned empires is that when the center is taken out, the rest falls like a house of cards. History is replete with such examples, so I don't think TYB's point stands at all.

But ultimately more importantly, a "remnants of the Empire" scenario is just boring, and plays like bad fan fic. It robs the audience of the "what happens next" factor. I'm interested in seeing what happens next after the Empire.

Otherwise, let's say that after the Sequel Trilogy, Disney decides to produce Episiodes X-XII. Will we then see the remnants of the remnants of the Empire? At some point they have to move on and stop trying to relive the success of the past.
1:26PM on 08/10/2015
I think its actually a pretty fun role reversal. Instead of Rebels fighting the all powerful Empire, we get a rebellious Sith proto-Empire outfit that is fighting the more powerful rebel led alliance. I think that's something we haven't seen before. I'm sorry you can't find any enjoyment in that idea.
I think its actually a pretty fun role reversal. Instead of Rebels fighting the all powerful Empire, we get a rebellious Sith proto-Empire outfit that is fighting the more powerful rebel led alliance. I think that's something we haven't seen before. I'm sorry you can't find any enjoyment in that idea.
2:47PM on 08/10/2015
If that were the case, that a Sith fueled underdog were fighting an established "New Repuplic" formed by the Rebel Alliance, that might be interesting. But the sense I'm getting, is that we still have rebels fighting 35 year old remnants of a defeated Empire. If I'm wrong on that, please correct me.

And the names for these things, First Order and Resistance, sound like something out of a Roger Corman Star Wars knock-off, from the 77' to 85' Star Wars knock-off bonanza period.
If that were the case, that a Sith fueled underdog were fighting an established "New Repuplic" formed by the Rebel Alliance, that might be interesting. But the sense I'm getting, is that we still have rebels fighting 35 year old remnants of a defeated Empire. If I'm wrong on that, please correct me.

And the names for these things, First Order and Resistance, sound like something out of a Roger Corman Star Wars knock-off, from the 77' to 85' Star Wars knock-off bonanza period.
8:10PM on 08/10/2015
Once again, you're making some major assumptions. First, that the Battle of Endor completely destroyed The Empire. Yes, the Emperor and Darth Vader were dead, but that doesn't mean the rest of the Empire was gone. The last 30 years could have been a step-by-step battle for the Alliance, trying to rebuild the Republic. The Empire could have been finally on the ropes, but now invigorated by a new team of Sith. Then again, things could have gone badly for the new Republic. The point is,
Once again, you're making some major assumptions. First, that the Battle of Endor completely destroyed The Empire. Yes, the Emperor and Darth Vader were dead, but that doesn't mean the rest of the Empire was gone. The last 30 years could have been a step-by-step battle for the Alliance, trying to rebuild the Republic. The Empire could have been finally on the ropes, but now invigorated by a new team of Sith. Then again, things could have gone badly for the new Republic. The point is, we're all speculating.

If you don't like what you're seeing, that's fine. Just be aware you're in a very small minority right now.
8:24PM on 08/10/2015
Actually I'm not making any assumptions at all, and I've read the "just because the Emperor is dead doesn't mean the Empire is too" reasoning many times over.

As I said earlier here, the thing with centrally planned Empires is that when the center is taken out, the rest falls like a house of cards? Why? Well, here's why.

First of all, we need to recognize that it wasn't just the Emperor and his right hand Man who died at the Battle of Endor. It was "an entire Legion" of the Emperor's
Actually I'm not making any assumptions at all, and I've read the "just because the Emperor is dead doesn't mean the Empire is too" reasoning many times over.

As I said earlier here, the thing with centrally planned Empires is that when the center is taken out, the rest falls like a house of cards? Why? Well, here's why.

First of all, we need to recognize that it wasn't just the Emperor and his right hand Man who died at the Battle of Endor. It was "an entire Legion" of the Emperor's best troops. This included massive amounts of hardware, soldiers, pilots, officers, and the second Death Star, all which cost a massive amount to manufacture and maintain. All gone.

Second, a fascist Empire is just that; Fascist. Without a cult like leader for fascists to follow, the zealousness of the cult dissipates.

Thirdly, with the costly loss at the Battle of Endor, it would be highly unlikely that the average Stormtrooper or Imperial officer would continue to blindly follow a dead Emperor without the infrastructure there to feed and house and clothe them.

Not to mention, that at the end of Return of the Jedi we got to watch a Galaxy wide celebration in which people tore down a statue of the Emperor and hoisted stormtroopers up over their heads all throughout the galaxy including Coruscant, the seat of Imperial power.

It's just unrealistic.

But even if we put all of that aside for the sake of argument, the reality is that bringing back the Empire like Jason Vorhees is the stuff of bad fan fic. It's the sort of thing written by 14 year olds who wish the Original Trilogy hadn't ended. It undermines the satisfactory climax of the Original Trilogy, and panders to emotional fanboys who want the Empire back. It's dumb.

Being in the minority means less than nothing to me. I've never been one to follow herds anyway.

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