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The Golden Globes have declared Scarlett Johansson's voice performance in Her ineligible for nomination

Nov. 26, 2013by:

There was buzz that Scarlett Johansson's voice work in Spike Jonze's HER was fantastic enough to get her a nomination come awards time. However, no one was talking about how it was possible that she may not get nominated at all--and she's not going to be at least at one ceremony.

The Golden Globes have declared that Johansson's vocal performance is ineligible for a Best Supporting Actress nomination. This even after an appeal from Warner Brothers.

Is a ruling like this one fair? Depends on your thinking. Some say that since it is a partial performance that this ultimately disqualifies her. However, the other half is arguing that the beauty of a performance like this one lies in her ability to do so much with only her voice. The objective in HER is that Joaquin Phoenix's character is falling in love with just a voice-- an operating system that has no true grasp on human emotion.

Should we discredit performances like Johansson's just because she is not there in body? The good news is that the actress still has a chance at the Oscars and SAG awards which have both ruled that her performance is eligible for nomination.

HER will make a limited release on December 18, 2013.

Source: EW

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6:10AM on 11/28/2013
This article needs proofing. Wow.
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2:13AM on 11/28/2013
Voice acting is acting. Sure it's a different style, but it's no less valid an artform than any other style of acting. And it does take talent. If you think "anyone can speak into a microphone", then let's see you give voice to several characters in an animated show. Do you think Hank Azaria isn't talented? Kevin Conroy? Mark Hamill? Frank Welker? Seth MacFarlane?

As far as ScarJo goes, I'm not too concerned. She's pretty and popular. And pretty and popular girls always seem to
Voice acting is acting. Sure it's a different style, but it's no less valid an artform than any other style of acting. And it does take talent. If you think "anyone can speak into a microphone", then let's see you give voice to several characters in an animated show. Do you think Hank Azaria isn't talented? Kevin Conroy? Mark Hamill? Frank Welker? Seth MacFarlane?

As far as ScarJo goes, I'm not too concerned. She's pretty and popular. And pretty and popular girls always seem to eventually collect awards (i.e.: Anne Hathaway, Natalie Portman, etc).
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9:36AM on 11/27/2013

Actually... Nevermind.

She's gonna get a Globe nomination for 'Don Jon', anyway. Odds are that she'd be nominated in the comedy/musical category for 'Her' as well, so I guess she'll at least be recognized for something. It's still a little disappointing. She'd probably stand a better chance of winning if her nomination was for 'Her'.
She's gonna get a Globe nomination for 'Don Jon', anyway. Odds are that she'd be nominated in the comedy/musical category for 'Her' as well, so I guess she'll at least be recognized for something. It's still a little disappointing. She'd probably stand a better chance of winning if her nomination was for 'Her'.
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9:16AM on 11/27/2013

I'm sorry... What?

Nevermind the fact that the Oscars have had a long standing issue, ruling out voice and motion capture performances for years, and the one that changes all that is Scarlett Johansson... But when any performance is good enough for the Oscars, when has it not been good enough for a Golden Globe?
Nevermind the fact that the Oscars have had a long standing issue, ruling out voice and motion capture performances for years, and the one that changes all that is Scarlett Johansson... But when any performance is good enough for the Oscars, when has it not been good enough for a Golden Globe?
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7:26AM on 11/27/2013
talk about some golden globes! ScarJo...nomnom
talk about some golden globes! ScarJo...nomnom
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7:19AM on 11/27/2013
Voice actors deserve way more credit than they get. People like Jim Cummings, Jennifer Hale, and Grey DeLisle are some of my favorite actors. They deserve acclaim as much as anyone else. And though I have not seen it, I have no doubt that the same is true of Johansson in this film.
Voice actors deserve way more credit than they get. People like Jim Cummings, Jennifer Hale, and Grey DeLisle are some of my favorite actors. They deserve acclaim as much as anyone else. And though I have not seen it, I have no doubt that the same is true of Johansson in this film.
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10:46PM on 11/27/2013
Me too, though mine includes Kevin Conroy and June Foray.
Me too, though mine includes Kevin Conroy and June Foray.
7:13AM on 11/27/2013
First off, how hard is voice acting when you have a script right in front of you and spend less than a day delivering all your lines?
If she gets nominated then Morgan Freeman next time deserves a lifetime achievement Oscar for his work in March of the Peguins or even War of the Worlds
First off, how hard is voice acting when you have a script right in front of you and spend less than a day delivering all your lines?
If she gets nominated then Morgan Freeman next time deserves a lifetime achievement Oscar for his work in March of the Peguins or even War of the Worlds
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8:35AM on 11/27/2013
You act like shes just reading the news.
You act like shes just reading the news.
11:06AM on 11/27/2013
How hard is acting when you have the script in front of you between takes? Good voice acting still requires talent and your example is narration, not voice acting.
How hard is acting when you have the script in front of you between takes? Good voice acting still requires talent and your example is narration, not voice acting.
5:52AM on 11/27/2013
There should be a separate category for voice acting.
There should be a separate category for voice acting.
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4:56AM on 11/27/2013

Unless an actor is motion captured

Than NO VOICES should be nominated ever according to this. No actors bodies are present in ANYTHING animated.
Than NO VOICES should be nominated ever according to this. No actors bodies are present in ANYTHING animated.
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4:57AM on 11/27/2013
Wait a minute this makes sense lol I'm dumb.
Wait a minute this makes sense lol I'm dumb.
1:59AM on 11/27/2013
Voice actors don't just speak into a microphone. They create characters, sometimes even multiple characters in a single project, just as an actor would if they were appearing on-screen. Hell, some voice actors do so much more with just their voice than some actors on-screen do with their entire body. I hope she does get nominated for an Oscar if for nothing else than it helps pave the way towards giving voice actors, and by extension mo-cap actors, the recognition that they deserve.
Voice actors don't just speak into a microphone. They create characters, sometimes even multiple characters in a single project, just as an actor would if they were appearing on-screen. Hell, some voice actors do so much more with just their voice than some actors on-screen do with their entire body. I hope she does get nominated for an Oscar if for nothing else than it helps pave the way towards giving voice actors, and by extension mo-cap actors, the recognition that they deserve.
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1:45AM on 11/27/2013

If Andy Serkis can't be nominated...

I'm sorry but if Andy Serkis can't be nominated for his role as Caesar or Gollum because its motion capture or The Adventures of Tin Tin can't be nominated for best animation (also because its motion capture but yet still all CG animation) then I don't want to hear people bitch about a nomination for voice work. I agree about using Jean Dujardin's win as an example when comparing to the motion capture. He didn't talk. Do I think the Academy should consider widening their choices for
I'm sorry but if Andy Serkis can't be nominated for his role as Caesar or Gollum because its motion capture or The Adventures of Tin Tin can't be nominated for best animation (also because its motion capture but yet still all CG animation) then I don't want to hear people bitch about a nomination for voice work. I agree about using Jean Dujardin's win as an example when comparing to the motion capture. He didn't talk. Do I think the Academy should consider widening their choices for nominating actors/actresses due to other uses of other techniques.... yes of course...but they have to be better than other performances.
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8:31AM on 11/27/2013
That's so petty. How do you even come to the conclusion "If Serkis couldn't get nominated neither should ScarJo?" instead of "Because Serkis shouldnt have been discounted, neither should ScarJo." Obviously Serkis should have been eligible, but that makes me care even more that they try to discount so called "lesser acting."
That's so petty. How do you even come to the conclusion "If Serkis couldn't get nominated neither should ScarJo?" instead of "Because Serkis shouldnt have been discounted, neither should ScarJo." Obviously Serkis should have been eligible, but that makes me care even more that they try to discount so called "lesser acting."
1:17AM on 11/27/2013

I Agree With The Golden Globes

I love Scarlet Johannson. I think she's great, but I don't think she should be eligible for any awards because of the fact that she, herself, is not actually in the movie. Think about it. If her voice performance is eligible to be nominated for acting awards, then voice actors in animated films should also be eligible for awards. It's the same thing.
I love Scarlet Johannson. I think she's great, but I don't think she should be eligible for any awards because of the fact that she, herself, is not actually in the movie. Think about it. If her voice performance is eligible to be nominated for acting awards, then voice actors in animated films should also be eligible for awards. It's the same thing.
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8:36AM on 11/27/2013
I can't even wrap my brain around the fact that you wrote, "If her voice performance is eligible to be nominated for acting awards, then voice actors in animated films should also be eligible for awards. It's the same thing." OF COURSE THEY SHOULD!!!!!!!!!
I can't even wrap my brain around the fact that you wrote, "If her voice performance is eligible to be nominated for acting awards, then voice actors in animated films should also be eligible for awards. It's the same thing." OF COURSE THEY SHOULD!!!!!!!!!
10:04AM on 11/27/2013
Eddie Murphy was nominated for a BAFTA for SHREK.
Eddie Murphy was nominated for a BAFTA for SHREK.
12:50AM on 11/27/2013
Meh. It's the Golden Globes. They can decide whatever they want, it's not going to get people to care. More people will reply to this article than will watch the Golden Globes.
Meh. It's the Golden Globes. They can decide whatever they want, it's not going to get people to care. More people will reply to this article than will watch the Golden Globes.
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11:42PM on 11/26/2013

Discredit it? Not necessarily.

But it's not the same beast in any way.
Maybe there should be a voice-acting category.
But it's not the same beast in any way.
Maybe there should be a voice-acting category.
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11:30PM on 11/26/2013
I read that Sarlett's voice was recorded after the film completed shooting and another actress was used during production, acting with Phoenix directly and reading the lines on set. I imagine it's more like the way James Earl Jones was picked to hide David Prowse' less threatening voice. The original actress seem to do more than just filling in the voice over. While I agree that voice acting is also acting, I don't know if that kind of collaborative process deserve Scarlett a nomination as a
I read that Sarlett's voice was recorded after the film completed shooting and another actress was used during production, acting with Phoenix directly and reading the lines on set. I imagine it's more like the way James Earl Jones was picked to hide David Prowse' less threatening voice. The original actress seem to do more than just filling in the voice over. While I agree that voice acting is also acting, I don't know if that kind of collaborative process deserve Scarlett a nomination as a solo work.
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8:58AM on 11/27/2013
I agree! If she was there from day one making this character her own and being on set so that the other actors can work off her then I would agree with a nomination for her much stronger.
I agree! If she was there from day one making this character her own and being on set so that the other actors can work off her then I would agree with a nomination for her much stronger.
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11:25PM on 11/26/2013
Everyone is forgetting that award shows and the people that decide them are meaningless. It's all become so political it's a joke to watch nowadays. So who cares? The only thing award shows are good at is snubbing.
Everyone is forgetting that award shows and the people that decide them are meaningless. It's all become so political it's a joke to watch nowadays. So who cares? The only thing award shows are good at is snubbing.
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10:18PM on 11/26/2013

Voice actors and performance capture actors have been robbed for years

I would argue that voice acting and CGI acting are even tougher than traditional acting because of the constraints that you're under. In both cases, the actor's missing a large part of their arsenal: their facial expressions and body language. Yes, the performance-capture actors have their movements restored via CGI but it's filtered through another person, and you're still trying to act using only your voice. There is a very good reason why voice actors are a rare breed and many Hollywood
I would argue that voice acting and CGI acting are even tougher than traditional acting because of the constraints that you're under. In both cases, the actor's missing a large part of their arsenal: their facial expressions and body language. Yes, the performance-capture actors have their movements restored via CGI but it's filtered through another person, and you're still trying to act using only your voice. There is a very good reason why voice actors are a rare breed and many Hollywood stars - Brad Pitt, Reese Witherspoon and Catherine Zeta-Jones to name just three - have died when they tried to perform in voice acting roles.

I haven't heard Johansson's performance yet but, if it's as good as they say, it speaks volumes for her as an actress that she could give a great performance using only her voice.
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10:07PM on 11/26/2013
Once again the Golden Globes prove how utterly out of touch and dumb they are (remember, they nominated motherfucking 'The Tourist' in a best of category)! More importantly, good acting is good acting, be it voice over work or otherwise.

Going by some twats below me's logic, only physical acting is to count, so I guess we shouldn't have invented talkies, huh?

If she does get nominated for an Oscar, then can we finally get a full blown voice acting category? It's been far too many years
Once again the Golden Globes prove how utterly out of touch and dumb they are (remember, they nominated motherfucking 'The Tourist' in a best of category)! More importantly, good acting is good acting, be it voice over work or otherwise.

Going by some twats below me's logic, only physical acting is to count, so I guess we shouldn't have invented talkies, huh?

If she does get nominated for an Oscar, then can we finally get a full blown voice acting category? It's been far too many years celebrating movies without it (and several other categories).
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9:28PM on 11/26/2013
I'm glad she's ineligible for the Golden Globes. If she were to actually win an Oscar for only voice work it would be a total slap in the face to anyone else in their respected categories who actually showed up to set and got lost in their character.
I'm glad she's ineligible for the Golden Globes. If she were to actually win an Oscar for only voice work it would be a total slap in the face to anyone else in their respected categories who actually showed up to set and got lost in their character.
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9:29PM on 11/26/2013
So voice work is lesser acting? Thats bullshit. I dont know why showing up to set is the only way to get lost in character. This is just another in a long line of slaps in the face to the constantly underappreciated voice actors, as well as all the non-traditional actors currently working.
So voice work is lesser acting? Thats bullshit. I dont know why showing up to set is the only way to get lost in character. This is just another in a long line of slaps in the face to the constantly underappreciated voice actors, as well as all the non-traditional actors currently working.
10:18PM on 11/26/2013
So you think Johansson is just as deserving as someone like Chiwetel Ejiofor who actually gave a brilliant performance in 12 Years A Slave? Anyone can speak into a microphone. Not everyone can act.
So you think Johansson is just as deserving as someone like Chiwetel Ejiofor who actually gave a brilliant performance in 12 Years A Slave? Anyone can speak into a microphone. Not everyone can act.
12:52AM on 11/27/2013
If you don't understand how voice acting IS acting, you're a moron.
If you don't understand how voice acting IS acting, you're a moron.
8:28AM on 11/27/2013
If its compelling, yes. If it is this compelling that it needs to be made ineligible out of fear that it could be nominated, abso-fucking-lutely. If anything it is harder to be compelling not having a visual element. Anyone can talk into a microphone? Anyone can step in front of a camera, it doesn't inherently make it good. And she's not just talking in a microphone. Its not like shes just reading the news. She's playing a part. She is ACTING
If its compelling, yes. If it is this compelling that it needs to be made ineligible out of fear that it could be nominated, abso-fucking-lutely. If anything it is harder to be compelling not having a visual element. Anyone can talk into a microphone? Anyone can step in front of a camera, it doesn't inherently make it good. And she's not just talking in a microphone. Its not like shes just reading the news. She's playing a part. She is ACTING
9:27PM on 11/26/2013
Lame! Compelling acting is compelling acting. I really dont care how its delivered. Not that I have seen it, but I plan to.
Lame! Compelling acting is compelling acting. I really dont care how its delivered. Not that I have seen it, but I plan to.
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9:07PM on 11/26/2013

wasn't someone else playing her role?

i remember reading that ScarJo came on the movie after they wrapped up filming. they had actually shot the whole movie with a different actresses doing the voice of Siri/Her. i wonder if that has anything to do with it.
i remember reading that ScarJo came on the movie after they wrapped up filming. they had actually shot the whole movie with a different actresses doing the voice of Siri/Her. i wonder if that has anything to do with it.
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9:21PM on 11/26/2013
I think it was Samantha Morton who provided lines on set for Phoenix to work off
I think it was Samantha Morton who provided lines on set for Phoenix to work off
8:53AM on 11/27/2013
I think it would help her cause if she was there from the beginning on set creating the character instead of someone else doing that. I was fully behind her nomination until I read this. I still am just not as much now.
I think it would help her cause if she was there from the beginning on set creating the character instead of someone else doing that. I was fully behind her nomination until I read this. I still am just not as much now.
9:43AM on 11/27/2013
Considering the actress was replaced because it wasn't working for the director means they went to square one on the voice. I think she did just as much crafting of character
Considering the actress was replaced because it wasn't working for the director means they went to square one on the voice. I think she did just as much crafting of character
10:36AM on 11/27/2013
Yeah, but the interactions with (or reactions from) the other actors aren't from her performance. That's got be an important factor.
Yeah, but the interactions with (or reactions from) the other actors aren't from her performance. That's got be an important factor.
12:47PM on 11/27/2013
Not if the final product is working so well that this whole controversy would even have to exist
Not if the final product is working so well that this whole controversy would even have to exist
8:57PM on 11/26/2013
Motion and performance capture actors like Andy Serkis should be awards-eligible alongside live-action actors before voice actors are.
Motion and performance capture actors like Andy Serkis should be awards-eligible alongside live-action actors before voice actors are.
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9:24PM on 11/26/2013
I agree with this.
I agree with this.
9:25PM on 11/26/2013
Why should it be one or other? Why can't it be both?
Why should it be one or other? Why can't it be both?
11:11PM on 11/26/2013
Voice work is not lesser acting, but perhaps performance and motion capture is closer to live-action acting than it is and if that type of acting work is recognised, it will be easier for voice work to be as well. Actors use a different set of skills when they're in front of the camera compared to when they're in the recording booth. Actors who put on a motion capture suit are acting physically; voice actors are not. Would I be for a "Best Voice Performance" category at the Oscars? Most
Voice work is not lesser acting, but perhaps performance and motion capture is closer to live-action acting than it is and if that type of acting work is recognised, it will be easier for voice work to be as well. Actors use a different set of skills when they're in front of the camera compared to when they're in the recording booth. Actors who put on a motion capture suit are acting physically; voice actors are not. Would I be for a "Best Voice Performance" category at the Oscars? Most definitely. But then again, stunt people have been wanting a category at the Oscars as well and there are so many parts to making a film that it would be hard to recognise all of them. The logical extension would be a "Best Catering" category too.
8:32AM on 11/27/2013
My question remains unanswered. Why can't they both be eligible? Why does it have to be one or the other? Why are so many people making it about one or the other?
My question remains unanswered. Why can't they both be eligible? Why does it have to be one or the other? Why are so many people making it about one or the other?
9:21AM on 11/27/2013
One first, paving for the way for the other to be more accepted.
One first, paving for the way for the other to be more accepted.
9:41AM on 11/27/2013
Let me try this a different way. Why does motion capture HAVE to be first? Why can't they just both be eligible at the same time? Why does it have to be about who's first? Should a compelling voice performance be ignored because motion capture hasn't been nominated yet? Because a deserving Serkis was disqualified, should ScarJo out of petty desire to even it out? Most of these are rhetorical. I don't think there is a justification that could possibly change my mind. I'm just trying to put the
Let me try this a different way. Why does motion capture HAVE to be first? Why can't they just both be eligible at the same time? Why does it have to be about who's first? Should a compelling voice performance be ignored because motion capture hasn't been nominated yet? Because a deserving Serkis was disqualified, should ScarJo out of petty desire to even it out? Most of these are rhetorical. I don't think there is a justification that could possibly change my mind. I'm just trying to put the ridiculousness of the situation in perspective. "Compelling is compelling" should always be the final say.
8:52PM on 11/26/2013
She speaks into a fucking microphone, there is no reason for her to be nominated. At least with things like mo-cap and silent movies they are on screen and acting.
She speaks into a fucking microphone, there is no reason for her to be nominated. At least with things like mo-cap and silent movies they are on screen and acting.
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9:23PM on 11/26/2013
Its more than that. Its not like shes just narrating or being monotone
Its more than that. Its not like shes just narrating or being monotone
8:42PM on 11/26/2013
Wait, didn't Jean Dujardin just WIN an Oscar for a movie in which he never spoke? Wouldn't that be a partial performance? How is this different?
Wait, didn't Jean Dujardin just WIN an Oscar for a movie in which he never spoke? Wouldn't that be a partial performance? How is this different?
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9:04PM on 11/26/2013
yes, the Oscars are still qualifying ScarJo's performance.
yes, the Oscars are still qualifying ScarJo's performance.
9:25PM on 11/26/2013
Yeah, but at least we could see him ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY ACT on screen
Yeah, but at least we could see him ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY ACT on screen
9:41PM on 11/26/2013
Its not different
Its not different
10:04AM on 11/27/2013
[Mild spoilers to THE ARTIST]

At the end, he does talk. Only one line, but he talks. I'm sure the H.F.P.A. would have no problem with this if Scarlett appeared in the movie even for a few seconds. I'm not saying I agree with them, though.
[Mild spoilers to THE ARTIST]

At the end, he does talk. Only one line, but he talks. I'm sure the H.F.P.A. would have no problem with this if Scarlett appeared in the movie even for a few seconds. I'm not saying I agree with them, though.
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