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The Hobbit inches closer to a greenlight? A warehouse catches fire? 3D?!

10.04.2010

To say THE HOBBIT has had its share of difficulties during development would be to put it lightly. If I didn't know any better, I'd swear that Peter Jackson was actually Terry Gilliam. Here are the doings that have been transpiring over the weekend...

First, The Hopeful News - Several people close to the production have told the LA Times that Warner Bros, New Line Cinema, and partner MGM "appear to be close to greenlighting" the $500 million two-part prequel to THE LORD OF THE RINGS.

The only thing holding it back at the moment? MGM. Per the Times:

"The one remaining hurdle is getting an official go-ahead from MGM, which is set to co-finance the movies because under a long-standing agreement it owns half the rights and controls international distribution."

"Warner and New Line, which produced the blockbuster 'Lord of the Rings' trilogy and control domestic distribution for 'Hobbit,' are ready to commit their half of the money, said people familiar with the matter. They have been waiting for MGM, which for more than a year has been virtually out of cash and whose debt holders have been trying to decide upon a plan for reorganization."


The long and short of it is that apparently despite the money issues, MGM is "eager" to make the films and could give WB the official okay sometime this week. Should all go well, THE HOBBIT could start filming as early as mid-January.

And now, The Sad News - According to Deadline, a fire reportedly broke out at part of Peter Jackson's workshop in New Zealand where some of THE HOBBIT would have been filmed. Here's Deadline:

"All that's left now is a burned-out warehouse at Jackson's Portsmouth Miniatures Studio which had been used in the past as a specialist miniatures shooting facility, one of the few in the world, to create special effects for his The Lord of the Rings trilogy and King Kong."

Apparently, this setback won't affect the production plans reported by the LA Times.

Finally, The Annoying News - THE HOBBIT will be in 3D.

In an interview last year, former director Guillermo del Toro had this to say about the project and the use of the most polarizing of dimensions: "We are not talking about 3-D, we are not writing the screenplay for 3-D right now. If after Avatar the market may change and demands are put upon us, etc., that is in the future." This was further reinforced just this year as Comic Con attendees cheered at the assurance that THE HOBBIT would stay 2D during one of the Middle Earth-oriented panels. Alas... the NYT reports:

"As 'The Hobbit' now nears a green light, with the director Peter Jackson, after months of behind-the-scenes dealmaking, it emerges, according to a person briefed on the plans (but speaking on the condition of anonymity, as the deal is not yet closed), with the inevitable third dimension."

No word on whether this means the films will be shot in 3D or post-converted.
Extra Tidbit: According to the LA Times, "Warner and MGM have together spent about $45 million on pre-production for 'The Hobbit,' including script fees, visual effects work, set preparations and casting meetings." F*ck me.

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8:07PM on 10/04/2010
I can get behind 3D done right - filmed that way with cinematography for that in mind. But post-conversion is crap.

That said, why is everyone complaining about it? If you don't want to see it in 3D, don't. If you don't want to pay more for it, don't. It's not like it's being forced on you.
I can get behind 3D done right - filmed that way with cinematography for that in mind. But post-conversion is crap.

That said, why is everyone complaining about it? If you don't want to see it in 3D, don't. If you don't want to pay more for it, don't. It's not like it's being forced on you.
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3:23PM on 10/04/2010
I hate the 3d genre.. I did however enjoy Avatar in 3d, it was my first experience with it and I was quite blown away by it. That being said not every fucking movie needs to pushed into the 3d theme. Just stick with the 2d and lets get a damn good movie.
I hate the 3d genre.. I did however enjoy Avatar in 3d, it was my first experience with it and I was quite blown away by it. That being said not every fucking movie needs to pushed into the 3d theme. Just stick with the 2d and lets get a damn good movie.
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1:44PM on 10/04/2010
Well, I won't be forced to see it in 3D, so that's of little consequence to me and if its required that it gets filmed in 3D in order to get made then so be it.
Well, I won't be forced to see it in 3D, so that's of little consequence to me and if its required that it gets filmed in 3D in order to get made then so be it.
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12:41PM on 10/04/2010

I hate the third dimension

Just going to echo most of whats written below. Good to hear the The Hobbit is moving forward, even more so (imho) that Peter Jackson is at the helm.

Deeply saddened to hear 3D is on the cards. Just who are they doing this for? I know we folks on this site don't represent a complete cross section of society, but still, the response is unanimously negative, or at least apathetic, towards the use of 3D on this project.

I agree with southtownbluz, the only saving grace will be if the option
Just going to echo most of whats written below. Good to hear the The Hobbit is moving forward, even more so (imho) that Peter Jackson is at the helm.

Deeply saddened to hear 3D is on the cards. Just who are they doing this for? I know we folks on this site don't represent a complete cross section of society, but still, the response is unanimously negative, or at least apathetic, towards the use of 3D on this project.

I agree with southtownbluz, the only saving grace will be if the option remains to see it in 2D. Do you see what you've made me do studio people? Made me support post production 3D!? Curse you!!!
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11:58AM on 10/04/2010

To All Studio Execs

If you're here and reading this, (Which I doubt you are but would still like to address this as if you are) then you know we're your target audience for all things geek. We're also not interested in your 3-D. Not for this. Not for most things, but certainly not for the Hobbit. Just look at the 14 posts below me (some of them doubles, but numbers dammit, numbers don't lie) and you'll see enough reasons why we don't want this in 3-D. So save yourself the time and trouble.

Thank You.
If you're here and reading this, (Which I doubt you are but would still like to address this as if you are) then you know we're your target audience for all things geek. We're also not interested in your 3-D. Not for this. Not for most things, but certainly not for the Hobbit. Just look at the 14 posts below me (some of them doubles, but numbers dammit, numbers don't lie) and you'll see enough reasons why we don't want this in 3-D. So save yourself the time and trouble.

Thank You.
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11:53AM on 10/04/2010
Glad that the movie is finally moving, but the bit about the 3D is just dumb. Were the LOTR movies shot in 3D? No. They were all amazing movies shot in regular 2D, and I enjoyed that.
Glad that the movie is finally moving, but the bit about the 3D is just dumb. Were the LOTR movies shot in 3D? No. They were all amazing movies shot in regular 2D, and I enjoyed that.
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11:40AM on 10/04/2010

Come on!

I beg you Peter Jackson NOT to make this a 3D movie. This a movie that should stay 2D. We loved the LOTR trilogy just the way it is. 3D will just destroy it ESPECIALLY post 3D. So please Mr. Jackson NO 3D for the Hobbit!!
I beg you Peter Jackson NOT to make this a 3D movie. This a movie that should stay 2D. We loved the LOTR trilogy just the way it is. 3D will just destroy it ESPECIALLY post 3D. So please Mr. Jackson NO 3D for the Hobbit!!
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11:29AM on 10/04/2010
I won't be paying to see THE HOBBIT in 3D. As Guillermo del Toro pointed out a few months ago, these films should have a classic feel to them. 3D will only serve to undermine this.
I won't be paying to see THE HOBBIT in 3D. As Guillermo del Toro pointed out a few months ago, these films should have a classic feel to them. 3D will only serve to undermine this.
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11:09AM on 10/04/2010

Post Production 3D Please...

So I can pay for the 2D release only and enjoy the film as it was meant to be, not some gimmicky 3-D crap. Seriously, this film needs to be conceived and directed as a film so I can enjoy it at its best. Convert it to 3D later for the gimmick and cover your extra costs that way, guys. I wouldn't watch this in 3D if you paid me to.

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So I can pay for the 2D release only and enjoy the film as it was meant to be, not some gimmicky 3-D crap. Seriously, this film needs to be conceived and directed as a film so I can enjoy it at its best. Convert it to 3D later for the gimmick and cover your extra costs that way, guys. I wouldn't watch this in 3D if you paid me to.

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11:23AM on 10/04/2010
Ah, but correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Avatar shot in true 3-D but viewable in either 2-D *or* 3-D in its theatrical release?
Ah, but correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Avatar shot in true 3-D but viewable in either 2-D *or* 3-D in its theatrical release?
8:23AM on 10/04/2010

About Time!

I've been excited about this becoming a movie for a couple of years now, well ever since the Trilogy came out (more than a couple). This is my favorite Tolkien story and I hope that it's done right. I feel w/Jackson at the helm, like he should be, it'll be done correctly.

Just get it going already and forego the 3D. Who needs it?!
I've been excited about this becoming a movie for a couple of years now, well ever since the Trilogy came out (more than a couple). This is my favorite Tolkien story and I hope that it's done right. I feel w/Jackson at the helm, like he should be, it'll be done correctly.

Just get it going already and forego the 3D. Who needs it?!
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7:20AM on 10/04/2010
Fuck 3D! ..Hobbit, YAY!
Fuck 3D! ..Hobbit, YAY!
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7:19AM on 10/04/2010
I'm not crazy about the LotR trilogy. I thought they were badly paced, overlong and indulgent. That being said, I love the Hobbit book. I love it's simplicity and sense of humor. I was really exited about Del Torro getting behind the camera. I thought he'd understand the tone and will likely do more practical effects and generally get better performances out of the actors.

Now that Jackson is back in the seat and with the rumblings of 3D... I guess i lost any of the interest i generated
I'm not crazy about the LotR trilogy. I thought they were badly paced, overlong and indulgent. That being said, I love the Hobbit book. I love it's simplicity and sense of humor. I was really exited about Del Torro getting behind the camera. I thought he'd understand the tone and will likely do more practical effects and generally get better performances out of the actors.

Now that Jackson is back in the seat and with the rumblings of 3D... I guess i lost any of the interest i generated before. Jackson isn't a terrible filmmaker, but he isn't great.
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5:00PM on 10/04/2010
Christ, if you thought the LOTR films were badly paced but liked "The Hobbit"'s simplicity, you're gonna really hate these new films since they stretched it out to two 4 hour films. Enjoy!
Christ, if you thought the LOTR films were badly paced but liked "The Hobbit"'s simplicity, you're gonna really hate these new films since they stretched it out to two 4 hour films. Enjoy!
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7:18AM on 10/04/2010
Fuck 3D! ..Hobbit, YAY!
Fuck 3D! ..Hobbit, YAY!
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7:11AM on 10/04/2010

Jesus

I love 'THE TRLOGY' they are the best fantasy ever made they're complex without being mind boggling, they have outstanding complex characters but never unrelatable and I'm gonna be honest here i couldnt a flying fuck about the hobbit this film could have been awesome with guillermo del toro but sincehe left the project has gone from one misery to another with hiring peter jackson (the guy had no interest to begin with so it seems he is doing for the healthy paycheck) to mgm to 3d so if and by
I love 'THE TRLOGY' they are the best fantasy ever made they're complex without being mind boggling, they have outstanding complex characters but never unrelatable and I'm gonna be honest here i couldnt a flying fuck about the hobbit this film could have been awesome with guillermo del toro but sincehe left the project has gone from one misery to another with hiring peter jackson (the guy had no interest to begin with so it seems he is doing for the healthy paycheck) to mgm to 3d so if and by now thats a big fuckimg if they go ahead i might give it a look but i would need some serious convincing so for now im gonna break the holy trinity for a solid afternoon of entertainment
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7:10AM on 10/04/2010

Jesus

I love 'THE TRLOGY' they are the best fantasy ever made they're complex without being mind boggling, they have outstanding complex characters but never unrelatable and I'm gonna be honest here i couldnt a flying fuck about the hobbit this film could have been awesome with guillermo del toro but sincehe left the project has gone from one misery to another with hiring peter jackson (the guy had no interest to begin with so it seems he is doing for the healthy paycheck) to mgm to 3d so if and by
I love 'THE TRLOGY' they are the best fantasy ever made they're complex without being mind boggling, they have outstanding complex characters but never unrelatable and I'm gonna be honest here i couldnt a flying fuck about the hobbit this film could have been awesome with guillermo del toro but sincehe left the project has gone from one misery to another with hiring peter jackson (the guy had no interest to begin with so it seems he is doing for the healthy paycheck) to mgm to 3d so if and by now thats a big fuckimg if they go ahead i might give it a look but i would need some serious convincing so for now im gonna break the holy trinity for a solid afternoon of entertainment
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7:04AM on 10/04/2010

"No word on whether this means the films will be shot in 3D or post-converted. "

Translation:

"No word on whether this means the films
will use the LAWS OF PHYSICS TO SHOOT IN 3-D or OR IGNORE THEM AND ATTEMPT A CONVERSION IN A MORE OR LESS IMPOSSIBLE WAY."

Either way, I will NOT pay for 3-D. I'll see the 2-D release only.

Getting more and more pissed at Peter Jackson...
Translation:

"No word on whether this means the films
will use the LAWS OF PHYSICS TO SHOOT IN 3-D or OR IGNORE THEM AND ATTEMPT A CONVERSION IN A MORE OR LESS IMPOSSIBLE WAY."

Either way, I will NOT pay for 3-D. I'll see the 2-D release only.

Getting more and more pissed at Peter Jackson...
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7:11AM on 10/04/2010
Fucking A man
Fucking A man
7:39AM on 10/04/2010
I think the 3D stuff is more a thing of the studio and not of the director.
I think the 3D stuff is more a thing of the studio and not of the director.
11:20AM on 10/04/2010
I'm totally with you on not paying to see the film in 3D, but I don't think your anger should be directed at Peter Jackson. I think both he and Guillermo del Toro wanted the films to be shot in 2D for a more classic feel. If this turns out to be true, I have a feeling Warner Bros. pushed for it.
I'm totally with you on not paying to see the film in 3D, but I don't think your anger should be directed at Peter Jackson. I think both he and Guillermo del Toro wanted the films to be shot in 2D for a more classic feel. If this turns out to be true, I have a feeling Warner Bros. pushed for it.
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