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There is a brilliant new article by Neal Gabler over at the LA Times regarding how the majority of the Millennial Generation (people born in the late 1980s through the 1990s) doesn't care about old movies.  Now, I am not talking about silent cinema here, I mean Scorcese and Coppola and even Raimi.  If a movie was not made within the last five years, it is not worth watching.

I am 31 years old and I have loved movies since I was a little kid.  I took film classes in high school and college.  I never had aspirations to be an actor but I did love to write and to discuss movies.  I have every ticket stub from every movie I have seen since 1996.  At one point, my Netflix history showed that I had watched over 3.000 different movies.  I love everything that cinema has to offer.  That includes old movies. I don't know where my film perspective would be if I had never discovered Alfred Hitchcock or Orson Welles or even Roger Corman.

Some people complain that they don't like old movies because they are boring.  I would then ask what "old movies" did they see?  Generally they cannot name a specific movie at all.  Then there are those that say they will not watch anything in black and white?  My wanted response is to shake them as hard as I can until they come to their senses. You cannot judge hundreds of movies because of the lack of color on the celluloid.

My all time favorite movie is Hitchcock's NOTORIOUS. Ask the average person to name a Hitchcock film and I doubt any of them would name this masterpiece. If I refused to watch black and white movies, I never would have seen one of the best every made. Sure, you could argue that there are countless movies made today that are worth 120 minutes of your time, but there are movies made before you were born that are just as worthy.

Cinema does not have the same level of reverence that literature does.  No matter how popular a current bestseller becomes, we will always look back to Shakespeare, Dunne, Shelley, O. Henry, Austen, and every other classic author from our past.  But when it comes to movies, which are just over a hundred years old, each succesive generation seems to forget about the movies that came before.

Gabler's article says "One has to acknowledge that part of this cinematic ageism is the natural cycle of culture. Every generation not only has its own movies, it has its own aesthetics, and the contemporary aesthetic might be labeled "bigger, faster, louder" because our blockbuster movies are all about sensory overload — quickening the audience's pulse. It is the same force that drives video games. Still, the difference between the attitude of boomers and that of the millennials is that boomer audiences didn't necessarily believe their aesthetics were an advance over those that had preceded them."

Frank Darabont would not exist without Frank Capra.  Steven Spielberg would not exist without John Huston.  Hell, superhero movies as a whole would not exist if we never had Richard Donner's SUPERMAN and his film owes just as much to the black and white superhero movies that came before him.

Remakes have proliferated in the last twenty years because of this Millennial phenomenon. A studio can easily remake a classic film with a young, hip cast without needing much extra work. They could literally shoot the movie scene for scene, like Gus Van Sant's PSYCHO experiment, just to capitalize on the generation who don't watch black and white movies.

The point is this: Hollywood feeds off of what the movie watching audience wants.  As long as those paying to see a reboot of SPIDER-MAN pony up the dough, it will happen again.  I fully expect a new Batman movie to hit theaters within the next five years and those teenagers will barely remember BATMAN BEGINS.

We cannot forget about the movies that helped create the cinema we know today.  I urge every single person out there to watch as many of the American Film Institute Top 100 movies before they begin to criticize today's films.  The old adage that those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it works for movies as well.  The next time you flip through one hundred channels and say there is nothing on, I beg you to turn on Turner Classic Movies and watch at least one whole movie.  I am pretty sure you will discover an entire world of stories you didn't even know existed.

What do you Schmoes think of this phenomenon? Do you love old movies as much as new ones?

Source: LA Times

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2:58PM on 07/19/2012
Meh, why do 'moviefans' always have to bash the younger movie viewers. Like the linked article said there is no proof of his statement 'millenials' are bored with old movies, it's just what the writer thinks (and as a moviefan he must place himself above younger fans) and what two of his friends told him.

Back in 2000 people (on the internet of course) complained about the teenagers that watched movies and now those teenagers are twentysomething it's their turn to complain about the current
Meh, why do 'moviefans' always have to bash the younger movie viewers. Like the linked article said there is no proof of his statement 'millenials' are bored with old movies, it's just what the writer thinks (and as a moviefan he must place himself above younger fans) and what two of his friends told him.

Back in 2000 people (on the internet of course) complained about the teenagers that watched movies and now those teenagers are twentysomething it's their turn to complain about the current teenagers and in ten years they will all claim to love old movies and bash the future teenagers and on and on.

You must ask yourself: is it necessary to watch Citizen Kane to enjoy other movies? Is there a void in your life if you don't like The Godfather? Why do 'moviefans' feel it's an obligation to like/watch certain movies? Will I appreciate the twelve Friday the 13th movies more if I finally see Psycho? Let me just watch movies I want to watch, I don't need other people to tell me what I MUST see and how much I suck for not liking a movie.
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1:28PM on 07/19/2012

Such a shame.

I'm 25 and can safely say that one of my favorite movies (or favorite trilogies) is The Man With No Name. A Fistful of Dollars is f**king' awesome, even if it doesn't boast in-your-face CGI, huge explosions, tits, and over-the-top action scenes. It's a f**king great piece of cinema, and Clint Eastwood is awesome. I'm proud that I'm not part of this Millennial Generation trend, because it seems to be full of suck.
I'm 25 and can safely say that one of my favorite movies (or favorite trilogies) is The Man With No Name. A Fistful of Dollars is f**king' awesome, even if it doesn't boast in-your-face CGI, huge explosions, tits, and over-the-top action scenes. It's a f**king great piece of cinema, and Clint Eastwood is awesome. I'm proud that I'm not part of this Millennial Generation trend, because it seems to be full of suck.
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9:14PM on 07/18/2012
It sucks, and I feel it's in part, because of Hollywood's need to remake anything it can. More importantly, us older movie buffs really need to get out there and try to get the younger ones hooked on as much as we can,be it a movie from 1920 or a small indie from last year.
It sucks, and I feel it's in part, because of Hollywood's need to remake anything it can. More importantly, us older movie buffs really need to get out there and try to get the younger ones hooked on as much as we can,be it a movie from 1920 or a small indie from last year.
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3:36PM on 07/18/2012
This is where hollywood is to blame really with all the remakes & sequels & reboots & bonehead greenlit movies (Battleship anyone?) In this day & age of twitter, facebook & cell phones, this new generation has become too tech spoiled & they will never experience anything old school. It's kinda sad really. I do like that Netflix has alot of older movies & TV shows for people to see. Hopefully this can encourage younger people to see them as well. On a light side note,articles like this make me
This is where hollywood is to blame really with all the remakes & sequels & reboots & bonehead greenlit movies (Battleship anyone?) In this day & age of twitter, facebook & cell phones, this new generation has become too tech spoiled & they will never experience anything old school. It's kinda sad really. I do like that Netflix has alot of older movies & TV shows for people to see. Hopefully this can encourage younger people to see them as well. On a light side note,articles like this make me feel so old (i am 34 yrs old) & realize I am part of a completely different generation who grew up on 80s & 90s music & movies. In my humble opinion those were when movies were at their best.
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2:48PM on 07/18/2012
This is where hollywood is to blame really with all the remakes & sequels & reboots & bonehead greenlit movies (Battleship anyone?) In this day & age of twitter, facebook & cell phones, this new generation has become too tech spoiled & they will never experience anything old school. It's kinda sad really. I do like that Netflix has alot of older movies & TV shows for people to see. Hopefully this can encourage younger people to see them as well. On a light side note,articles like this make me
This is where hollywood is to blame really with all the remakes & sequels & reboots & bonehead greenlit movies (Battleship anyone?) In this day & age of twitter, facebook & cell phones, this new generation has become too tech spoiled & they will never experience anything old school. It's kinda sad really. I do like that Netflix has alot of older movies & TV shows for people to see. Hopefully this can encourage younger people to see them as well. On a light side note,articles like this make me feel so old (i am 34 yrs old) & realize I am part of a completely different generation who grew up on 80s & 90s music & movies. In my humble opinion those were when movies were at their best.
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1:31PM on 07/18/2012

I'm 23 and my favorite film of all time is The Maltese Falcon

But if this be true, I feel really bad for the upcoming generations, no movies told today would exist without old movie classics.
But if this be true, I feel really bad for the upcoming generations, no movies told today would exist without old movie classics.
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11:56AM on 07/18/2012
It is more of a generational thing. I mean if you had asked a moviegoer in the 40s they probably would've said they never saw silent films or 30's films.
On the other hand without revival houses there is no place to see classics with a good audience which can add so much to a film.
Fathom has started running one night only classic films at multiplexes, Singing In The Rain played to a fairly large crowd near me and they have The Birds, Frankentstein/Bride of double feature, To Kill A
It is more of a generational thing. I mean if you had asked a moviegoer in the 40s they probably would've said they never saw silent films or 30's films.
On the other hand without revival houses there is no place to see classics with a good audience which can add so much to a film.
Fathom has started running one night only classic films at multiplexes, Singing In The Rain played to a fairly large crowd near me and they have The Birds, Frankentstein/Bride of double feature, To Kill A Mockingbird all coming up.
And let's not forget the Stooges, still appreciated in B&W by a huge fan base.
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11:55AM on 07/18/2012

Born in '86

It's terribly to be in the minority here, but I know people my age (25) and older with this exact mentality. There are plenty of older films better than what's coming out today. Fact: Nolan is quoted in Entertainment Weekly as saying his main inspiration for the Dark Knight Rises is Metropolis, and Metropolis is amazing, and I see somewhere down below someone's mentioned M. I feel the same way. "What movies have you seen?" Nothing. I want to slap them around, haha.
It's terribly to be in the minority here, but I know people my age (25) and older with this exact mentality. There are plenty of older films better than what's coming out today. Fact: Nolan is quoted in Entertainment Weekly as saying his main inspiration for the Dark Knight Rises is Metropolis, and Metropolis is amazing, and I see somewhere down below someone's mentioned M. I feel the same way. "What movies have you seen?" Nothing. I want to slap them around, haha.
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9:48AM on 07/18/2012

Classics are my favorite!

I have a friend who is 21 and he cant stand old movies or movies in black and white and made fun of me for going to see The Artist when it was in cinemas back in February. He kept saying "Its 2012 why would you go see an awful silent film you're an idiot" and I was just like "shut the fuck up you're an idiot when it comes to movies" point being I have witnessed this first hand and just as you said in the article I wanted to grab him and shake him so hard ha. I had another person that I met say
I have a friend who is 21 and he cant stand old movies or movies in black and white and made fun of me for going to see The Artist when it was in cinemas back in February. He kept saying "Its 2012 why would you go see an awful silent film you're an idiot" and I was just like "shut the fuck up you're an idiot when it comes to movies" point being I have witnessed this first hand and just as you said in the article I wanted to grab him and shake him so hard ha. I had another person that I met say that he cant stand old movies because they are all awful, cheesy and that the acting is horrible. I think that was worse. I'm embarrassed to be apart of this new generation that has no appreciation for the classics, its frustrating. Anyways I love TCM I watch it every night before going to bed.
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7:00AM on 07/18/2012

Everyone should watch 'M'

I have met these people and heard their arguments. I do think society and the media do add to this by pushing the right now, newest thing mentally to sell their crap. One guy I know refused to see The Dark Knight back when it came out because he 'didn't see it opening weekend, so what's the point?' Talk about your scary shit. But these are the same people that won't watch foreign films either because of subtitles.

For the record I still haven't gone to see the new Spiderman reboot because I
I have met these people and heard their arguments. I do think society and the media do add to this by pushing the right now, newest thing mentally to sell their crap. One guy I know refused to see The Dark Knight back when it came out because he 'didn't see it opening weekend, so what's the point?' Talk about your scary shit. But these are the same people that won't watch foreign films either because of subtitles.

For the record I still haven't gone to see the new Spiderman reboot because I don't fucking care.
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2:02AM on 07/18/2012
I'm gonna disagree with the notion that this is a specific generational thing, when I really see it as a repetitive issue with young people who aren't exposed to older films. When I was young I had issues with watching black and white films and TV shows, but then eventual viewings of The Honeymooners, I Love Lucy changed all that. I also had issues with watching foreign films because I didn't like focusing my attention to the bottom half of the screen: Got over that too with Crouching Tiger
I'm gonna disagree with the notion that this is a specific generational thing, when I really see it as a repetitive issue with young people who aren't exposed to older films. When I was young I had issues with watching black and white films and TV shows, but then eventual viewings of The Honeymooners, I Love Lucy changed all that. I also had issues with watching foreign films because I didn't like focusing my attention to the bottom half of the screen: Got over that too with Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, Amelie and a number of others I'm forgetting at the moment.

Unlike older generations, this millenial generation has access to more media at an earlier age than us older kids. You're trying to tell me that they're not gonna come across something that leads them to older movies and TV shows? I was teaching a class with some teenagers and managed to segue into a discussion where we brought up the plot to Adventures in Babysitting, and then one of the students immediately brought up how that sounding exactly like the plot of the The Sitter. At which point I bestowed upon her the biggest truth she will ever know: That Hollywood copies everything from something old.

But at the end of the day moviegoers are profoundly different than film fans. There will always be moviegoers who don't know and/or don't care about the history and prestige of filmmaking, and they'll be fine with that. So long as they're not the ones greenlighting films in Hollywood, that's fine. The film lovers will always be there to pour over Cinematographer, Film Forum, Empire and other film magazines, discussing classic films with friends and geeking out on online film forums. A couple of days ago I was walking around in New York, and passed by this group of teenage boys, had to be about 13-14 years old discussing Scorcese and filmmaking.
There's still hope.
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1:52AM on 07/18/2012

In other news, old man yells at cloud

It always takes a while for a younger generation to appreciate older movies, especially if they're rammed down the kids' throats. I fucking HATED William Shakespeare in high school mainly because so many English teachers claimed the guy could do no wrong. As I got older, I eventually realized Shakespeare's genius but I still think some of his plays had flaws.

Somehow I doubt The Philadelphia Story or Casablanca are going away anytime soon.
It always takes a while for a younger generation to appreciate older movies, especially if they're rammed down the kids' throats. I fucking HATED William Shakespeare in high school mainly because so many English teachers claimed the guy could do no wrong. As I got older, I eventually realized Shakespeare's genius but I still think some of his plays had flaws.

Somehow I doubt The Philadelphia Story or Casablanca are going away anytime soon.
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1:26AM on 07/18/2012
I actually prefer many classic films to the films of the past few years but I'm also aware that I am in a very small minority on this issue. TCM is my very favorite channel and I strongly encourage others to watch - especially in August when they do their Summer Under the Stars extravaganza.
I actually prefer many classic films to the films of the past few years but I'm also aware that I am in a very small minority on this issue. TCM is my very favorite channel and I strongly encourage others to watch - especially in August when they do their Summer Under the Stars extravaganza.
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1:19AM on 07/18/2012

Born in 82, not crazy about being attached to this

Im a type of person that refuses to accept the phrases "Thats just the way it is" or anything along those lines.
If you call yourself a film lover, then there should be no limit to which films you restrict yourself from. Where would our LOTR's be, if Peter Jackson didn't fall in love with King Kong ? Or where would our Dark Knight be if Christopher Nolan didn't get his inspiration from A Tale of Two Cities? Or Scorsese's inspiration The Expedition (which is what he based Taxi Driver on btw).
Im a type of person that refuses to accept the phrases "Thats just the way it is" or anything along those lines.
If you call yourself a film lover, then there should be no limit to which films you restrict yourself from. Where would our LOTR's be, if Peter Jackson didn't fall in love with King Kong ? Or where would our Dark Knight be if Christopher Nolan didn't get his inspiration from A Tale of Two Cities? Or Scorsese's inspiration The Expedition (which is what he based Taxi Driver on btw). The point is, the films of today that this generation to which this article refers too, all come from the classic films that inspired film makers to create this goodness we all get to view. If you deem yourself a film enthusiast there should be no ignorance in your film library.

By the way, if you haven't seen all the films listed.... get it done!
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10:01AM on 07/18/2012
He said "late 80's".... you're safe.
He said "late 80's".... you're safe.
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12:51AM on 07/18/2012
I think the unpopular opinion section on this site is proof enough that this article is absolute truth.
I think the unpopular opinion section on this site is proof enough that this article is absolute truth.
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11:03PM on 07/17/2012
Im 40 yrs old and I honestly have a hard time sitting through classic films. There are exceptions, I enjoy a lot of Jimmy Stewart and John Wayne flicks. My biggest problem has always been the use of what I call over-acting. To me its like watching the theater on the big screen. Actors seemed very stiff and void of lots of emotion or there was a ridiculous amount of emotion. Its just a personal preference for me is all.
Im 40 yrs old and I honestly have a hard time sitting through classic films. There are exceptions, I enjoy a lot of Jimmy Stewart and John Wayne flicks. My biggest problem has always been the use of what I call over-acting. To me its like watching the theater on the big screen. Actors seemed very stiff and void of lots of emotion or there was a ridiculous amount of emotion. Its just a personal preference for me is all.
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6:09AM on 07/18/2012
Acting styles evolve over time as anything else. Just think how ridiculous our 'reality' based found footage movie are going to seem to someone in 50 years.
Acting styles evolve over time as anything else. Just think how ridiculous our 'reality' based found footage movie are going to seem to someone in 50 years.
10:41PM on 07/17/2012

people are sheep...

most go with the flow, and that flow leads to stupidity, some chart their own course and learn and appreciate where things came from, and knowing where we came from allows us to pioneer a better future, maybe we need a "save the cinema" foundation.
most go with the flow, and that flow leads to stupidity, some chart their own course and learn and appreciate where things came from, and knowing where we came from allows us to pioneer a better future, maybe we need a "save the cinema" foundation.
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10:34PM on 07/17/2012
Let's face it, the language of cinema has changed very much and evolves rapidly to adapt to the tastes of today's audiences - it's fueled by test screenings and market research, and a lot of it is filmmakers misunderstanding what audiences want. Show most teenagers today a classic-ish film and you'll be met with "BORING!" - because they've been groomed on a steady diet of epileptic shaky-cam, bloated CGI and bodily function jokes. Of course, this is a generalisation, but look at the influence
Let's face it, the language of cinema has changed very much and evolves rapidly to adapt to the tastes of today's audiences - it's fueled by test screenings and market research, and a lot of it is filmmakers misunderstanding what audiences want. Show most teenagers today a classic-ish film and you'll be met with "BORING!" - because they've been groomed on a steady diet of epileptic shaky-cam, bloated CGI and bodily function jokes. Of course, this is a generalisation, but look at the influence Michael Bay has made on cinema - practically every action director looks to emulate his style. Peter Berg, a good director in his own right, essentially made a Transformers copycat because of how successful Bay's movies were at the box office. I shudder to think about it, but it feels like "Idiocracy" - where maybe, one day in the far future, the No. 1 movie in the world is called "Ass", and consists of just that for 90 minutes. Older films have distinctly different style and structure, but it's not to say that every aspect of old films are great. When people say something "doesn't hold up well", it probably means that modern audiences may find the plot, characters or dialogue cheesy and cliche, or the special effects rudimentary, as can often happen. I'm a child of the 90s, and am in no way a film connoisseur or expert, but I was raised on Spielberg. E.T., the Indiana Jones films, Jurassic Park, those were essentially my childhood. The main reason why I idolise Spielberg is not so much for the contributions his films have made to areas such as visual effects, scoring or editing, but because he puts heart up on the screen every single time. Some may call it sappy or oversugared, but it definitely is something sorely lacking from many empty, plasticky mass-produced flicks today. That's why I'm grateful for something like Super 8 and Spielberg's own War Horse (a beautiful and very old-fashioned film), which makes this style and era accessible to kids at large.
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9:50PM on 07/17/2012
I am very impressed with the number of younger people on here who are loving classics. Some guys mentioned Seven Samurai (one of the best). I am 34 and i own over 3000 films (original dvds/blurays no burns) and 200 are classics - i have silent films to 1950's and they are pretty amazing. 12 angry men, inherit the wind, all Cagney flix, Captains couragous, marx brothers, all about eve, ace in the hole - i could on. These films told amazing stories that really made you feel. My wife was converted
I am very impressed with the number of younger people on here who are loving classics. Some guys mentioned Seven Samurai (one of the best). I am 34 and i own over 3000 films (original dvds/blurays no burns) and 200 are classics - i have silent films to 1950's and they are pretty amazing. 12 angry men, inherit the wind, all Cagney flix, Captains couragous, marx brothers, all about eve, ace in the hole - i could on. These films told amazing stories that really made you feel. My wife was converted after i forced her to watch inherit the wind and 12 angry men. I think some of these "film fans" arent fans at all. I love films from all generations and all countries. A good film is a good film no matter when it was made. Remember that in about 10-20 years people wont care about Dark Knight, or Drive, etc, and that is really sad - hopefully they will learn. PS - anyone on here with a black and white avatar rocks!!!!
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8:17PM on 07/17/2012

Not me, but I know others where this is true

I was born in 1985 and my favorite movie is Soylent Green. I LOVE movies from all eras. One of my favorite things to do on a saturday morning is wake up early, put the coffee on and turn on TCM. I can understand to a point where some might think older films are boring, but then look at what they grow up with. Majority of the mainstream movies are blockbusters and anything to different and mellow are pushed to indie cinemas. I worked with a guy who wouldn't watch any movie that was made
I was born in 1985 and my favorite movie is Soylent Green. I LOVE movies from all eras. One of my favorite things to do on a saturday morning is wake up early, put the coffee on and turn on TCM. I can understand to a point where some might think older films are boring, but then look at what they grow up with. Majority of the mainstream movies are blockbusters and anything to different and mellow are pushed to indie cinemas. I worked with a guy who wouldn't watch any movie that was made before he was born. ?? He was only 20. Stupid kids. Some oder films have truly blown me away. I'm talking classics like 30 Seconds Over Tokyo, The Incredible Shrinking Man, etc. Good stuff there.
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8:16PM on 07/17/2012

Not me, but I know others where this is true

I was born in 1985 and my favorite movie is Soylent Green. I LOVE movies from all eras. One of my favorite things to do on a saturday morning is wake up early, put the coffee on and turn on TCM. I can understand to a point where some might think older films are boring, but then look at what they grow up with. Majority of the mainstream movies are blockbusters and anything to different and mellow are pushed to indie cinemas. I worked with a guy who wouldn't watch any movie that was made
I was born in 1985 and my favorite movie is Soylent Green. I LOVE movies from all eras. One of my favorite things to do on a saturday morning is wake up early, put the coffee on and turn on TCM. I can understand to a point where some might think older films are boring, but then look at what they grow up with. Majority of the mainstream movies are blockbusters and anything to different and mellow are pushed to indie cinemas. I worked with a guy who wouldn't watch any movie that was made before he was born. ?? He was only 20. Stupid kids. Some oder films have truly blown me away. I'm talking classics like 30 Seconds Over Tokyo, The Incredible Shrinking Man, etc. Good stuff there.
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9:51PM on 07/17/2012
Godzilla rocks - i own every single movie on dvd (except a couple that didnt come out yet). Soylent Green is wicked too!
Godzilla rocks - i own every single movie on dvd (except a couple that didnt come out yet). Soylent Green is wicked too!
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7:46PM on 07/17/2012
I don't think this is true of just movies. I'm 27, and I know people in my age group that would have this theory apply to other areas.
Like for tv, I still find re-runs of Cheers funny but younger people just see it as a boring old show.
For music, most younger people don't listen to any artist pre-Nirvana, unless they're a huge artist like Johnny Cash, the Beatles, etc.
For books, if the person actually reads books, they're mostly those made popular by tv, movies, or hype (Hunger Games,
I don't think this is true of just movies. I'm 27, and I know people in my age group that would have this theory apply to other areas.
Like for tv, I still find re-runs of Cheers funny but younger people just see it as a boring old show.
For music, most younger people don't listen to any artist pre-Nirvana, unless they're a huge artist like Johnny Cash, the Beatles, etc.
For books, if the person actually reads books, they're mostly those made popular by tv, movies, or hype (Hunger Games, Game of Thrones, Fifty Shades of Grey, etc).
I don't know why this trend occurs, but it does and not just for movies. I feel if people actually gave older movies a chance (i.e. not on the phone/online during the movie), they might like some of them.
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7:44PM on 07/17/2012
I have a friend who's twenty-one and considers himself a huge movie fan. He's up on all the latest news, see the new releases, and talks about and dissects movies constantly. This same friend has hardly seen a fraction of the movies released in the '80s and earlier. I'm twenty-seven and grew up watching "classics" on TV and VHS, and have actively sought out movies from all eras, from the silent days to now. My friend just never did that. He claims that with all of the current movies, and those
I have a friend who's twenty-one and considers himself a huge movie fan. He's up on all the latest news, see the new releases, and talks about and dissects movies constantly. This same friend has hardly seen a fraction of the movies released in the '80s and earlier. I'm twenty-seven and grew up watching "classics" on TV and VHS, and have actively sought out movies from all eras, from the silent days to now. My friend just never did that. He claims that with all of the current movies, and those from the '90s he's missed, there's not much time for the long list of "classics" I could and have thrown his way. He had never seen an Alien movie until he finally watched Ridley Scott's 1979 original in the weeks leading up to Prometheus.

He's extremely knowledgeable on film otherwise, but he just doesn't have a drive to see anything from before his time. It baffles me.
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6:41PM on 07/17/2012

Hi, I'm 23. My 5 favorite films are:

1. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
2. The Great Escape
3. Evil Dead 2
4. Back to the Future (They all count as one)
5. Ghostbusters
If you extend that to 10, you'll hit 'In Bruges' which is the most recent and is already 4 years old.
1. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
2. The Great Escape
3. Evil Dead 2
4. Back to the Future (They all count as one)
5. Ghostbusters
If you extend that to 10, you'll hit 'In Bruges' which is the most recent and is already 4 years old.
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9:28PM on 07/17/2012
I'm so glad you put: 4. Back to the Future (They all count as one). Every year my kids and I watch the BACK TO THE FUTURE TRILOGY, it's actually a special cut that I edit as one long ass film. I even cut the end of part 1 out because they reshot it with Elizabeth Shue in part 2. I have a friend who always saids "Part one is the Best". And I'm like "Are you fucking serious? How could you watch just 1 part and judge it as a whole, it's incomplete and feels hollow and empty (especially now)
I'm so glad you put: 4. Back to the Future (They all count as one). Every year my kids and I watch the BACK TO THE FUTURE TRILOGY, it's actually a special cut that I edit as one long ass film. I even cut the end of part 1 out because they reshot it with Elizabeth Shue in part 2. I have a friend who always saids "Part one is the Best". And I'm like "Are you fucking serious? How could you watch just 1 part and judge it as a whole, it's incomplete and feels hollow and empty (especially now) without the part 2 and 3". Oh well, whatever. Sorry for the rant. I'm just glad there's someone else like me in the world.
6:36PM on 07/17/2012

I'm an '88 kid

I'm an '88 kid and just like mdb47 below me i should fall into this demographic as well. But I fucking love old movies. To be fair I know a lot of people my same age who don't like old movies and I can see how this is true... I actually know more people though who were born in the early 80's actually that REFUSE to watch anything in black and white. Ridiculous! I'm not surprised that there are so many younger kids who won't watch older movies, what with all the step up bullshit movies coming
I'm an '88 kid and just like mdb47 below me i should fall into this demographic as well. But I fucking love old movies. To be fair I know a lot of people my same age who don't like old movies and I can see how this is true... I actually know more people though who were born in the early 80's actually that REFUSE to watch anything in black and white. Ridiculous! I'm not surprised that there are so many younger kids who won't watch older movies, what with all the step up bullshit movies coming out and such. But the enjoyment of older movies will never die out, they will continue to be appreciated. There will just probably be more crappy movies being newly released, but I guess new fads and etc. will always just look stupid to the outside audiences, and that goes for older movies. (even though some people won't give some of them a chance)
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6:07PM on 07/17/2012
I'm 23 years old, born in 1988 - so I fall in this demographic being discussed. And seeing as how I am on this site, I don't fall into the mold - and can say that most people I know (granted, this is anecdotal of me) it isn't that bad.
BUT Is this new? In the 80s I bet people were saying nobody cares about movies from the 50s! In the 50s, nobody cares about movies from the 20s!
There will ALWAYS be people who do and don't care. I don't know if today is any different from any other point in
I'm 23 years old, born in 1988 - so I fall in this demographic being discussed. And seeing as how I am on this site, I don't fall into the mold - and can say that most people I know (granted, this is anecdotal of me) it isn't that bad.
BUT Is this new? In the 80s I bet people were saying nobody cares about movies from the 50s! In the 50s, nobody cares about movies from the 20s!
There will ALWAYS be people who do and don't care. I don't know if today is any different from any other point in history.
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5:44PM on 07/17/2012

Sadly true article

I took a couple film studies classes during college and it was very sad overhearing people's reactions to classic movies we would watch. "That would have been good if it wasn't in black and white." That one made me want to rage quit the class altogether.
Clearly JoBlo readers are among the exception to the article.
I was born in '87 and I have my parents to thank for my love of classics. When I was in elementary school, my parents made a point of going to the video store in town at least
I took a couple film studies classes during college and it was very sad overhearing people's reactions to classic movies we would watch. "That would have been good if it wasn't in black and white." That one made me want to rage quit the class altogether.
Clearly JoBlo readers are among the exception to the article.
I was born in '87 and I have my parents to thank for my love of classics. When I was in elementary school, my parents made a point of going to the video store in town at least once a week and we would get a couple movies, and one of which had to be from AFI's Top 100 Movies list.
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5:39PM on 07/17/2012

I'm a Media Teacher

I watched a lot of crappy eighties horror films, then studied a wide range of film, then I got a degree in making films, now I teach film theory and production. I have seen a lot of film, past and present.

However I can't drive and know sod all about cars. I couldn't tell you a different make of car from another, I don't know what cars are popular now, I certainly don't know what cars are considered "classics" other than a car that just looks older than newer cars. There are a large
I watched a lot of crappy eighties horror films, then studied a wide range of film, then I got a degree in making films, now I teach film theory and production. I have seen a lot of film, past and present.

However I can't drive and know sod all about cars. I couldn't tell you a different make of car from another, I don't know what cars are popular now, I certainly don't know what cars are considered "classics" other than a car that just looks older than newer cars. There are a large population that feel the same about movies, it's just a thing. There are people that feel the same about books, video games, paintings, decor, clothing, music, etc, etc.

People just have patience and interest in different things, just be glad that movies have as much of an audience as they do generally. Because that audience translates into money, time and effort creating the things that we movies lovers...love. We could all be fans of some really really really specific niche market that gets no love at all.
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5:26PM on 07/17/2012
I am a 20 year old majoring in Theatre and Film, and I also collect blu rays. That can get expensive so I began buying older movies, they tend to be a bit cheaper, and now I mostly purchase older movies because there is such a wide selection and its really interesting to see where today's directors got some of their inspiration from. In fact as I type this Evil Dead 2 is paused on my tv. And black and white movies do not bother me the slightest; while watching Kubrick's Paths of Glory, I forgot
I am a 20 year old majoring in Theatre and Film, and I also collect blu rays. That can get expensive so I began buying older movies, they tend to be a bit cheaper, and now I mostly purchase older movies because there is such a wide selection and its really interesting to see where today's directors got some of their inspiration from. In fact as I type this Evil Dead 2 is paused on my tv. And black and white movies do not bother me the slightest; while watching Kubrick's Paths of Glory, I forgot that it was in black and white. all that matters is the story, and how it was filmed.
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5:21PM on 07/17/2012
One thing I have learned is that when someone tries to speak for everyone without a full concensus they are obviously full of @#$%. I find its best to ignore articles like this since its no different than shock jocks trying to get a rouse out of people and then hopefully troll their way to fame.
One thing I have learned is that when someone tries to speak for everyone without a full concensus they are obviously full of @#$%. I find its best to ignore articles like this since its no different than shock jocks trying to get a rouse out of people and then hopefully troll their way to fame.
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5:10PM on 07/17/2012
Yeah, I noticed this sad phenomenon back in 06 when I was in film school. I was 24 then but all the 18-21 year olds in my class said they couldn't watch black and white films or anything made before the 90's and my heart sank. I hate how those of us born from 1975-1985 are in the middle of Gen Xers and the millennials. Our generation was never properly named and is never mentioned during any of these generational studies. At least the great thing about being in the 21st Century is that even if
Yeah, I noticed this sad phenomenon back in 06 when I was in film school. I was 24 then but all the 18-21 year olds in my class said they couldn't watch black and white films or anything made before the 90's and my heart sank. I hate how those of us born from 1975-1985 are in the middle of Gen Xers and the millennials. Our generation was never properly named and is never mentioned during any of these generational studies. At least the great thing about being in the 21st Century is that even if the younger people don't give a damn about Classic movies, it doesn't mean that they're going anywhere and will never be seen again. It's a shame that the respect for classics is dwindling because films made before the 00's had very specific story telling techniques, pacing and character development that gets further and further away from being used in most modern films. At least we have Christopher Nolan, Paul Thomas Anderson, Quentin Tarantino, Wes Anderson, JJ Abrahms and Joss Whedon (yeah I put him up there, deal with it!) to keep making films for at least the next 20 years, so that those of us who enjoy classic storytelling techniques can have something to look forward to.
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5:09PM on 07/17/2012
Yeah, I noticed this sad phenomenon back in 06 when I was in film school. I was 24 then but all the 18-21 year olds in my class said they couldn't watch black and white films or anything made before the 90's and my heart sank. I hate how those of us born from 1975-1985 are in the middle of Gen Xers and the millennials. Our generation was never properly named and is never mentioned during any of these generational studies. At least the great thing about being in the 21st Century is that even if
Yeah, I noticed this sad phenomenon back in 06 when I was in film school. I was 24 then but all the 18-21 year olds in my class said they couldn't watch black and white films or anything made before the 90's and my heart sank. I hate how those of us born from 1975-1985 are in the middle of Gen Xers and the millennials. Our generation was never properly named and is never mentioned during any of these generational studies. At least the great thing about being in the 21st Century is that even if the younger people don't give a damn about Classic movies, it doesn't mean that they're going anywhere and will never be seen again. It's a shame that the respect for classics is dwindling because films made before the 00's had very specific story telling techniques, pacing and character development that gets further and further away from being used in most modern films. At least we have Christopher Nolan, Paul Thomas Anderson, Quentin Tarantino, Wes Anderson, JJ Abrahms and Joss Whedon (yeah I put him up there, deal with it!) to keep making films for at least the next 20 years, so that those of us who enjoy classic storytelling techniques can have something to look forward to.
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4:59PM on 07/17/2012
I'm 27 and I love old movies. I'm a big film noir junkie in particular, and love the work of Jules Dassin, John Huston, and Jean-Pierre Melville. Akira Kurosawa and Alfred Hitchcock were true masters of cinema, and understood better than most since what made an effective movie. I used to have movie books that directed me to must-see classics as well as new releases.
I also love the old tough guys. Lee Marvin, Robert Ryan, Ernest Borgnine, guys who understood that being tough wasn't about
I'm 27 and I love old movies. I'm a big film noir junkie in particular, and love the work of Jules Dassin, John Huston, and Jean-Pierre Melville. Akira Kurosawa and Alfred Hitchcock were true masters of cinema, and understood better than most since what made an effective movie. I used to have movie books that directed me to must-see classics as well as new releases.
I also love the old tough guys. Lee Marvin, Robert Ryan, Ernest Borgnine, guys who understood that being tough wasn't about posing, but just being. Watching Marvin's Walker in "Point Blank" gave me chills.
People who refuse to indulge in anything just a few years past is just either just a kid or just a consumer. They don't look at movies probably as anything more than a chance to turn the brain off for a couple of hours. Which is fine. Me, I'm not one to geek out at certain movies and insist on being there opening day, but I do take my movie fandom very seriously when it comes to what I will watch, re-watch, or purchase. Two of my three favorite movies are "The WIld Bunch" and "Chinatown." All that means is there's an even chance the person I'm talking to has never seen them.
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4:32PM on 07/17/2012

I watch old movies.

I think it's safe to say that most of us readers like older films. What's funny is that I've met people who think that GOODFELLAS is an old film . . . I mean yeah, it came out roughly 22 years ago, but in the grand scheme of cinema history, GOODFELLAS isn't old at all.

I'm a teenager and most of my peers don't know much about good movies. If I ask someone what their favorite movie is, I always get NAPOLEON DYNAMITE or MEAN GIRLS. I like those films, but there's so much great and powerful
I think it's safe to say that most of us readers like older films. What's funny is that I've met people who think that GOODFELLAS is an old film . . . I mean yeah, it came out roughly 22 years ago, but in the grand scheme of cinema history, GOODFELLAS isn't old at all.

I'm a teenager and most of my peers don't know much about good movies. If I ask someone what their favorite movie is, I always get NAPOLEON DYNAMITE or MEAN GIRLS. I like those films, but there's so much great and powerful storytelling out there. I try to show my little brother (he's 11) some of my favorite 80's films and his favorite movies now are the first two TERMINATOR flicks and the BACK TO THE FUTURE trilogy, and that makes me proud (and as he gets older, I'll show him more mature and deep films). I know a lot of adults, aged 50+, that have seen and love plenty of movies, but there definitely is a disconnect in younger generations, including the ones above and below me, and that's a shame. I remember once I was talking about the FOOTLOOSE remake to someone, who a) didn't even know it was a remake, and b) didn't know who Kevin Bacon is. The fuck is that all about?
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5:10PM on 07/17/2012
Good on you sir, and props on having a Taxi Driver avatar.
Good on you sir, and props on having a Taxi Driver avatar.
4:10PM on 07/17/2012
I watch old movies every now and then and I enjoy Turner Classic Movies a lot. I remember one time watching the original version of "13 Ghosts" on TCM and it was entertaining. White Christmas, for instance, is my favorite musical and I was born on 1983. Nevertheless, there's a book called "1001 Movies To See Before You Die". It has many versions now but it's essentially the same book - just added more movies from the late 2000s and so on. It's a good read and a good way to explore old movies to
I watch old movies every now and then and I enjoy Turner Classic Movies a lot. I remember one time watching the original version of "13 Ghosts" on TCM and it was entertaining. White Christmas, for instance, is my favorite musical and I was born on 1983. Nevertheless, there's a book called "1001 Movies To See Before You Die". It has many versions now but it's essentially the same book - just added more movies from the late 2000s and so on. It's a good read and a good way to explore old movies to never be forgotten.
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4:09PM on 07/17/2012

I love old movies

I'm 24 years old. I grew up in the bay area where there was this specialty rental house called "Reel Video" that was everything under the sun- all the indies, all the classics. I rented White Heat, The Killing, The Defiant Ones, Big Night, Cinema Paradisio. Then when Netflix was started- and I mean when it was a tiny operation- my dad was one of the first generation of members and we rented every mini-indie under the sun. It's blasphemy to me that modern day film audiences can barely sit
I'm 24 years old. I grew up in the bay area where there was this specialty rental house called "Reel Video" that was everything under the sun- all the indies, all the classics. I rented White Heat, The Killing, The Defiant Ones, Big Night, Cinema Paradisio. Then when Netflix was started- and I mean when it was a tiny operation- my dad was one of the first generation of members and we rented every mini-indie under the sun. It's blasphemy to me that modern day film audiences can barely sit through Transformers, let alone something with substance and subtlety, that challenges you.
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3:59PM on 07/17/2012

I love old movies

I'm 24 years old. I grew up in the bay area where there was this specialty rental house called "Reel Video" that was everything under the sun- all the indies, all the classics. I rented White Heat, The Killing, The Defiant Ones, Big Night, Cinema Paradisio. Then when Netflix was started- and I mean when it was a tiny operation- my dad was one of the first generation of members and we rented every mini-indie under the sun. It's blasphemy to me that modern day film audiences can barely sit
I'm 24 years old. I grew up in the bay area where there was this specialty rental house called "Reel Video" that was everything under the sun- all the indies, all the classics. I rented White Heat, The Killing, The Defiant Ones, Big Night, Cinema Paradisio. Then when Netflix was started- and I mean when it was a tiny operation- my dad was one of the first generation of members and we rented every mini-indie under the sun. It's blasphemy to me that modern day film audiences can barely sit through Transformers, let alone something with substance and subtlety, that challenges you.
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3:43PM on 07/17/2012
Agreed. I'm not one who runs out to watch classic movies, but I have seen my share and am always willing to watch them. On the flipside, the classics will always be classic and recognized for their accomplishments. And of course, 40 years from now, it will most likely be the same. How many kids from the next generation are going to remember films like Saving Private Ryan? It really is a generational thing. One can only hope there will come a point when all this sensory overload will tip over
Agreed. I'm not one who runs out to watch classic movies, but I have seen my share and am always willing to watch them. On the flipside, the classics will always be classic and recognized for their accomplishments. And of course, 40 years from now, it will most likely be the same. How many kids from the next generation are going to remember films like Saving Private Ryan? It really is a generational thing. One can only hope there will come a point when all this sensory overload will tip over and Hollywood will go back to producing films that can compare to the classics.
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3:15PM on 07/17/2012
Fantastic article. I'm 29 years old and I grew up watching classics thanks to my dad being a film buff. Abbot & Costello Meet Frankenstein (a movie that came out in 1948, when my DAD was only one year old) was one of my favorite films as a child and today I consider it to still be one of the funniest movies I've ever seen. I understand that if a movie doesn't resonate with you, it doesn't resonate with you, but to discount entire generations of films based on their age is just flat out stupid.
Fantastic article. I'm 29 years old and I grew up watching classics thanks to my dad being a film buff. Abbot & Costello Meet Frankenstein (a movie that came out in 1948, when my DAD was only one year old) was one of my favorite films as a child and today I consider it to still be one of the funniest movies I've ever seen. I understand that if a movie doesn't resonate with you, it doesn't resonate with you, but to discount entire generations of films based on their age is just flat out stupid. Yes, aesthetics have changed, but that doesn't mean you can't get caught up in great story and characters. Some of my favorite films came out before I was born, including Psycho (1960), The Killers (1946), Touch of Evil (1958) and my all time favorite, Cool Hand Luke (1967). Of course not all old films are perfect, A Place in the Sun (1951) is a highly revered film, however I thought it to be bland... but I at least gave it a shot. Kids, just give some of these old movies a try, otherwise we're only a few years away from "Ass: The Movie" (all you Idiocracy fans will know what I mean).
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3:13PM on 07/17/2012

I wholeheartedly agree

I am 19 years old and I still watch older films like The Seventh Seal or Seven Samurai or even Apocalypse Now
I feel that every day when I try to have a conversation with someone my age about classic movies, that it always reverts to the lord of the rings trilogy or even the spiderman trilogy
These films today would be nothing without the likes of kubrick and even people like Robert Zemeckis
I just wish that film fans in the present would take an interest in the history of film
I am 19 years old and I still watch older films like The Seventh Seal or Seven Samurai or even Apocalypse Now
I feel that every day when I try to have a conversation with someone my age about classic movies, that it always reverts to the lord of the rings trilogy or even the spiderman trilogy
These films today would be nothing without the likes of kubrick and even people like Robert Zemeckis
I just wish that film fans in the present would take an interest in the history of film
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3:04PM on 07/17/2012
Love it. I was born in '89, and thankfully I had parents who introduced me to a lot of great old movies, so I've never had this bias. However, the sheer number of friends I have who can't appreciate (or, worse, have never even tried to appreciate) anything made more than fifteen years ago is depressing. I love old movies, I love new movies, I just love film in general. Why limit your cultural experience?
And for the record, Notorious is definitely my favorite Hitchcock film.
Love it. I was born in '89, and thankfully I had parents who introduced me to a lot of great old movies, so I've never had this bias. However, the sheer number of friends I have who can't appreciate (or, worse, have never even tried to appreciate) anything made more than fifteen years ago is depressing. I love old movies, I love new movies, I just love film in general. Why limit your cultural experience?
And for the record, Notorious is definitely my favorite Hitchcock film.
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2:45PM on 07/17/2012
Great article.
Great article.
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2:39PM on 07/17/2012

sad indeed...

I was born in 91 and I try to watch as many old films as I can, and I count John Carpenter, Scorcese, Hitchcock, David Lean and Leone as some of my favorite directors, I love long epics like Lawrence of Arabia, Spartacus, Where Eagles Dare, etc. although that's not to say I dont enjoy big dumb summer blockbuster films. But I will admit that I may be one of few. Just recently I put Ghost Protocol to a group of students of mine and 20 minutes in they were bored out of their asses and asked me to
I was born in 91 and I try to watch as many old films as I can, and I count John Carpenter, Scorcese, Hitchcock, David Lean and Leone as some of my favorite directors, I love long epics like Lawrence of Arabia, Spartacus, Where Eagles Dare, etc. although that's not to say I dont enjoy big dumb summer blockbuster films. But I will admit that I may be one of few. Just recently I put Ghost Protocol to a group of students of mine and 20 minutes in they were bored out of their asses and asked me to change the movie! so yeah... very sad...
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2:30PM on 07/17/2012

THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS ...

... as Dylan would sing - things have changed.
... as Dylan would sing - things have changed.
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4:42PM on 07/17/2012
He also said he used to care, but...I don't get what you're trying to say. Wouldn't The Times They Are A-Changing fit better?

The more things change the more they stay the same.
He also said he used to care, but...I don't get what you're trying to say. Wouldn't The Times They Are A-Changing fit better?

The more things change the more they stay the same.
2:26PM on 07/17/2012
I love classic movies and watch TCM on a weekly basis. Especially when they have Charlie Chaplin or Harold Lloyd films...
I love classic movies and watch TCM on a weekly basis. Especially when they have Charlie Chaplin or Harold Lloyd films...
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2:14PM on 07/17/2012
I was born in '87, I'm a manhattan film editor and I absolutely love and breathe movies. But unfortunately- as much as I respect old films (and I do acknowledge and respect them)- I can agree with the LA Times article to some degree. I'll watch most movies within the last 15-20 years. After that I tend to just pass it over. I've never seen Godfather, Dog Day Afternoon and I fell asleep during Serpico, Taxi and 2001:ASO during film class. I've only seen movies like The Graduate, Look Who's
I was born in '87, I'm a manhattan film editor and I absolutely love and breathe movies. But unfortunately- as much as I respect old films (and I do acknowledge and respect them)- I can agree with the LA Times article to some degree. I'll watch most movies within the last 15-20 years. After that I tend to just pass it over. I've never seen Godfather, Dog Day Afternoon and I fell asleep during Serpico, Taxi and 2001:ASO during film class. I've only seen movies like The Graduate, Look Who's Coming To Dinner or Midnight Cowboy because I had too for class.
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3:09PM on 07/17/2012
Oh man, you fell asleep during Serpico? You don't know what you're missing. Go back and give it another chance (in fact, same goes for all the movies you mentioned!)
Oh man, you fell asleep during Serpico? You don't know what you're missing. Go back and give it another chance (in fact, same goes for all the movies you mentioned!)
3:37PM on 07/17/2012
Damn, getting lots of negatives. And I hear you- I really should.
Damn, getting lots of negatives. And I hear you- I really should.
4:26AM on 07/18/2012
2001 is one of the best movies I have ever seen, so daring for its time! I can understand why it would bore you to sleep, but for me, I couldn't get over it.
2001 is one of the best movies I have ever seen, so daring for its time! I can understand why it would bore you to sleep, but for me, I couldn't get over it.
2:12PM on 07/17/2012

agreed

this is one of the saddest articles ive ever read, but i could not agree more. i cant count how many movies and actors ive named to generations just 5-10 years younger than me and they have no clue what or who im talking about. its terrible to think of all the great movies that future generations will miss just because those movies came out before they were alive
this is one of the saddest articles ive ever read, but i could not agree more. i cant count how many movies and actors ive named to generations just 5-10 years younger than me and they have no clue what or who im talking about. its terrible to think of all the great movies that future generations will miss just because those movies came out before they were alive
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2:09PM on 07/17/2012

There's a Difference

There is definitely a difference between not caring or knowing the importance of past films/filmmakers and their effects on current cinema vs. simply not liking or caring about watching them. I consider myself a pretty big lover of cinema, movies, film etc.(I'm also 31) However, every single time I try to watch a classic movie there is a disconnect. I just don't enjoy it as much as the more modern films I grew up with and the ones being released now. I know that part of it is the acting, it's
There is definitely a difference between not caring or knowing the importance of past films/filmmakers and their effects on current cinema vs. simply not liking or caring about watching them. I consider myself a pretty big lover of cinema, movies, film etc.(I'm also 31) However, every single time I try to watch a classic movie there is a disconnect. I just don't enjoy it as much as the more modern films I grew up with and the ones being released now. I know that part of it is the acting, it's just hard to watch the performances in old films sometimes. The storytelling and cinematography could all be top notch, but if the acting is stiff and the material and time period isn't something you can connect with, then it's hard to actually like it. I'm not a fan of people who like old movies simply because they think they're supposed to. Do I under the importance of The Third Man or Citizen Kane? Yes. Do I want to watch them over and over again? Absolutely not. I agree with you though, you have to give the films a chance before writing off all "old" films all together. For some reason I absolutely love The Spiral Staircase.
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