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The UnPopular Opinion: Alien Resurrection

Jan. 16, 2013by: Alex Maidy

THE UNPOPULAR OPINION is an ongoing column featuring different takes on films that either the writer HATED, but that the majority of film fans LOVED, or that the writer LOVED, but that most others LOATHED. We're hoping this column will promote constructive and geek fueled discussion. Enjoy!

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After using this column to profess my dislike for two Joss Whedon projects (SERENITY and THE AVENGERS), it feels somewhat ironic that I am going to praise the one film that Whedon created that he himself despises most. Granted, he wrote the screenplay for ALIEN RESURRECTION and did not direct it, but it is my favorite work from the BUFFY creator. Directed by Jean-Pierre Jeunet, ALIEN RESURRECTION is a major departure from the three previous films in the franchise, but a very interesting one.

ALIEN RESURRECTION re-imagines the ALIEN franchise as a hybrid of fantasy and horror rather than a science fiction film. The movie is an exercise in body horror that would make H.R. Giger proud (despite being the only one of the four films he has no credit for). That is a credit to director Jeunet, who is best known for THE CITY OF LOST CHILDREN and AMELIE, fantastic French films that took the world by storm. ALIEN RESURRECTION shares a lot in common with both of those films and his first movie, DELICATESSEN. All of the movies explore themes of isolation in a surreal world populated by the odd and the bizarre. In other words, a perfect universe for science fiction.

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I will admit that ALIEN RESURRECTION is the weakest entry in the ALIEN series, but as a movie on it's own, it works for me. There is a playfulness at work in Jeunet's film that does not exist in the previous ALIEN movies. While this light touch works better in AMELIE or A VERY LONG ENGAGEMENT, it serves the same purpose here as it did in THE CITY OF LOST CHILDREN which is to create a sense of unease.  Dan Hedaya's character, General Perez, and Brad Dourif's Dr. Gediman both provide moments of strange levity that make you question whether you should laugh or be afraid.

Taking place 200 years after the events of ALIEN 3, ALIEN RESURRECTION allows itself to rewrite the rules of the series.  Gone are Weyland-Yutani and the colonial Marines from the prior movies.  There is a new military corporation in charge and bands of pirates like the crew of the Betty.  The crew of the Betty, led by Michael Wincott and featuring Winona Ryder and Ron Perlman, can be looked at like a dark precursor to the cast of FIREFLY.  They are a ragtag group from many different origins who are pulled together in search of loot and adventure.  Whedon's trademark dialogue does appear mostly intact despite the vast reworking his screenplay sufferred during filming.  Characters get some good one liners and the complex plot involving cloning and hybrids makes enough sense that it does not interfere with the action.

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Take, for instance, the major action sequence in the movie.  The underwater chase that has our band of misfits holding their breath to traverse a blocked passage is straight out of THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE, but with Xenomorphs.  That scene alone beats anything David Fincher had in ALIEN 3.  Jeunet filmed that sequence first due to the complexity involved with anything shot underwater and it worked out perfectly.

There is a lot of hate concerning the Alien Hybrid in the movie.  Many of you likely think the creature looks stupid or weakens the plot, but the balance of having Ripley return with her DNA merged with that of an alien plays perfectly against the alien combined with human DNA.  It is a yin and yang thing, people!  You cannot have one without the other!

Joss Whedon has stated his original script had the aliens reaching Earth with a climactic sequence that was excised from the final film.  Instead, ALIEN RESURRECTION gives us a much more vague ending leaving us to wonder if the aliens made it to our planet.  I think if this film had been received more positively, we would have gotten a fifth ALIEN set on Earth.

Am I the only one who is turned on by Sigourney Weaver?

The best parts of ALIEN RESURRECTION are the ones taken right from the Ridley Scott original: the reveal that a central character (Winona Ryder) is really an android, the surprise chestburster scene (this time through someone's head!), and the slow removal of each character one by one as the aliens devour their prey.  Combine that with Jeunet's dreamlike camerawork and you get a wholly unique and original take on the ALIEN story.

If you look at the ALIEN saga as a whole, no two films share much in common.  They are all individual exercies in genre and style that generated very different results.  Of the films, ALIEN RESURRECTION was the riskiest gambit since it took a director out of his element and a screenwriter with non of the credibility he would later earn and gave them a major franchise to play with.  The results are much better than you may remember and I encourage you to give ALIEN RESURRECTION another shot.

Oh, and if you have any suggestions for The UnPopular Opinion I’m always happy to hear them. You can send along an email to alexmaidy@joblo.com, spell it out below, slap it up on my wall in Movie Fan Central, or send me a private message via Movie Fan Central. Provide me with as many movie suggestions as you like, with any reasoning you'd care to share, and if I agree then you may one day see it featured in this very column!

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5:31AM on 01/17/2013

While I have issues with the reviewer disliking AVENGERS and SERENITY...

I enjoy the shit out of this film. You can definitely tell when the Whedonisms are present, and Jeunet does a commendable job of giving this film its own uniqueness in the ALIEN universe. Perlman is terrific, and I would have liked to have seen more Michael Wincott, and I would have LOVED seeing Chow Yun-Fat as Christie (who Whedon actually wrote the role for), but in the end, with all the genetic brouhaha, it's still a really entertaining, and at times, very smart film.

Certainly far
I enjoy the shit out of this film. You can definitely tell when the Whedonisms are present, and Jeunet does a commendable job of giving this film its own uniqueness in the ALIEN universe. Perlman is terrific, and I would have liked to have seen more Michael Wincott, and I would have LOVED seeing Chow Yun-Fat as Christie (who Whedon actually wrote the role for), but in the end, with all the genetic brouhaha, it's still a really entertaining, and at times, very smart film.

Certainly far superior to ALIEN 3.
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11:04PM on 01/16/2013
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10:20PM on 01/16/2013
I don't mind Alien Resurrection but let's just say whenever I have a marathon of the films I'm not tell eager to get to the fourth film. The water sequence was the best part of this film along with Perlman's character.

But I don't understand how someone could like this more than The Avengers and Serenity.
I don't mind Alien Resurrection but let's just say whenever I have a marathon of the films I'm not tell eager to get to the fourth film. The water sequence was the best part of this film along with Perlman's character.

But I don't understand how someone could like this more than The Avengers and Serenity.
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8:13PM on 01/16/2013

Sokay

Didn't hate it. Didn't love it. I own 'The Alien Trilogy' and don't miss Resurrection, but it still has some redeeming quality in Sigourney. But why the hate? Well, because the first one is a tense, genre-defining classic and the second one is among the most badass sci-fi action flicks ever made. Whose favorite is Alien 3? Nobody. But it's still good. And to a lesser degree, so is Alien Resurrection.
Didn't hate it. Didn't love it. I own 'The Alien Trilogy' and don't miss Resurrection, but it still has some redeeming quality in Sigourney. But why the hate? Well, because the first one is a tense, genre-defining classic and the second one is among the most badass sci-fi action flicks ever made. Whose favorite is Alien 3? Nobody. But it's still good. And to a lesser degree, so is Alien Resurrection.
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6:22PM on 01/16/2013

Maybe

I have seen worse movies. The part where Ripley goes and hangs out with the Aliens just kills it for me. From then on it's almost unwatchable. I liked the look of the movie, but I just can't get past those last parts.
I have seen worse movies. The part where Ripley goes and hangs out with the Aliens just kills it for me. From then on it's almost unwatchable. I liked the look of the movie, but I just can't get past those last parts.
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5:35PM on 01/16/2013

Not a bad review, not a bad movie

Another vote on the whole 'never understood the HATE'... I liked Aliens 4... didn't love it, didn't enjoy the visual of the hybrid, but I liked it a lot more than 3. It had an interesting (if typical) crew and is that really a sin? better then generic prisoners...I'll take generic pirate/mercs over bland prisoners any day.... also it toyed with the Aliens 2 vibe with the whole 'multiple Aliens- shoot your way out' plot. Ron Perlman STOLE it as Johner and what else do you want? Ripley was kinda
Another vote on the whole 'never understood the HATE'... I liked Aliens 4... didn't love it, didn't enjoy the visual of the hybrid, but I liked it a lot more than 3. It had an interesting (if typical) crew and is that really a sin? better then generic prisoners...I'll take generic pirate/mercs over bland prisoners any day.... also it toyed with the Aliens 2 vibe with the whole 'multiple Aliens- shoot your way out' plot. Ron Perlman STOLE it as Johner and what else do you want? Ripley was kinda creepy in her not-quite human ways and YES, the water scene was BOSS. Again, never understood the super hate aimed at this film... was it EPIC? No. Was it popcorn, quotable fun? Yes. Even in half the posts here, people are quoting the script....
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2:23PM on 01/16/2013

Some elements were great

but most elements were not.
I still try to forget there were 2 alien movies after alien and aliens.
I cant watch aliens anymore without realizing it all doesnt matter because they die in the first few minutes(offscreen) in part 3. So although i did like ressurection for the most part i cant get over alien 3.
I also think part 3 and 4 added nothing to the alien universe, can easely do without and hope one day they make a good follow up on aliens and ignore these.
but most elements were not.
I still try to forget there were 2 alien movies after alien and aliens.
I cant watch aliens anymore without realizing it all doesnt matter because they die in the first few minutes(offscreen) in part 3. So although i did like ressurection for the most part i cant get over alien 3.
I also think part 3 and 4 added nothing to the alien universe, can easely do without and hope one day they make a good follow up on aliens and ignore these.
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1:46PM on 01/16/2013

i actually agree

for me it's the best alien movie,not including prometheus cause it's just so much damn fun and just over the top.
for me it's the best alien movie,not including prometheus cause it's just so much damn fun and just over the top.
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1:08PM on 01/16/2013

I know I'm the ONLY one, but...

This is actually my favorite Alien movie... It's the most fun to watch for me.
This is actually my favorite Alien movie... It's the most fun to watch for me.
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12:47PM on 01/16/2013

I too enjoyed the film

The first 2/3 of this movie was solid, the closing act was fairly weak I must admit.
The first 2/3 of this movie was solid, the closing act was fairly weak I must admit.
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11:28AM on 01/16/2013
I am a huge fan of the Aliens franchise. Alien Ressurection does not get to be viewed in a vacuum by fans of the franchise. While the film has some qualities, overall it is a crappy film and a crappy story. If these were stand alone films Alien3 would be better, actually a compelling and interesting story. But they are not. That was the downfall of Alien3. Alien Resurrection was probably the weakest film. But I can agree the underwater sequence was pretty slick.
I am a huge fan of the Aliens franchise. Alien Ressurection does not get to be viewed in a vacuum by fans of the franchise. While the film has some qualities, overall it is a crappy film and a crappy story. If these were stand alone films Alien3 would be better, actually a compelling and interesting story. But they are not. That was the downfall of Alien3. Alien Resurrection was probably the weakest film. But I can agree the underwater sequence was pretty slick.
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11:05AM on 01/16/2013

makes no sense

so u clearly say its the worst alien movie of them all
yet u decided to make a article on why u like it
are u serious?
its like saying twilight is the worst series then saying which is ur favorite and why
who approves this crap?

try better next time alex maybe something a little less Whedon
seems u are trying to juice this "negative popularity" u got from ur avengers and serenity articles. enough with tryin to milk the fame u got for ur unpopular opinion on the avengers and start doing
so u clearly say its the worst alien movie of them all
yet u decided to make a article on why u like it
are u serious?
its like saying twilight is the worst series then saying which is ur favorite and why
who approves this crap?

try better next time alex maybe something a little less Whedon
seems u are trying to juice this "negative popularity" u got from ur avengers and serenity articles. enough with tryin to milk the fame u got for ur unpopular opinion on the avengers and start doing this column right...

use that brain for something more creative...
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1:07PM on 01/16/2013
So just because something is the worst means you can't like it? THAT makes no sense.
So just because something is the worst means you can't like it? THAT makes no sense.
1:17PM on 01/16/2013
no u miss the point.
he is agreeing that is the worst in the series which is the POPULAR OPINION, which means its NOT AN UNPOPULAR OPINION
are that retarded that u cant see that?
no u miss the point.
he is agreeing that is the worst in the series which is the POPULAR OPINION, which means its NOT AN UNPOPULAR OPINION
are that retarded that u cant see that?
1:19PM on 01/16/2013
so since this is not an UNPOPULAR OPINION
alex - "I will admit that ALIEN RESURRECTION is the weakest entry in the ALIEN series,"

which means he only wrote this to TROLL and to use his "fame" from the Unpopular opinion articles that hes been writing about Whedon.

he is clearly trying to troll Whedon fans
so since this is not an UNPOPULAR OPINION
alex - "I will admit that ALIEN RESURRECTION is the weakest entry in the ALIEN series,"

which means he only wrote this to TROLL and to use his "fame" from the Unpopular opinion articles that hes been writing about Whedon.

he is clearly trying to troll Whedon fans
1:20PM on 01/16/2013
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10:54AM on 01/16/2013

Interesting

This article makes me want to watch this again.
I also quite like this point:
"If you look at the ALIEN saga as a whole, no two films share much in common. They are all individual exercies in genre and style that generated very different results. "
This article makes me want to watch this again.
I also quite like this point:
"If you look at the ALIEN saga as a whole, no two films share much in common. They are all individual exercies in genre and style that generated very different results. "
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10:45AM on 01/16/2013

Not bad!

I like this movie. It looks amazing, fx are solid, good cast, but it has too many one-liners if you ask me.
"Why do i have to f**k to get off this boat?"... Hurts everytime.
I like this movie. It looks amazing, fx are solid, good cast, but it has too many one-liners if you ask me.
"Why do i have to f**k to get off this boat?"... Hurts everytime.
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9:05AM on 01/16/2013
I've always considered it this way: there are two movies going on in Resurrection:

One is an average tale of a group of space pirates who end up on a space station infested with monsters. No real themes. No particularly likeable characters. A pretty basic plot and some decent action. It's a straightforward action flick that is watchable, but forgettable.

The other is an overly convoluted tale about a Ripley clone discovering what she is and trying to end her life or, at least, escape the
I've always considered it this way: there are two movies going on in Resurrection:

One is an average tale of a group of space pirates who end up on a space station infested with monsters. No real themes. No particularly likeable characters. A pretty basic plot and some decent action. It's a straightforward action flick that is watchable, but forgettable.

The other is an overly convoluted tale about a Ripley clone discovering what she is and trying to end her life or, at least, escape the hellhole she's living in. While it tries to capitalize on some of the sames themes that we've seen in the franchise before, it never really provokes any kind of emotional or otherwise engaging response from the viewer. Again - the plot is very straightforward and there are some interesting parts but, by and large, it can't cash the check it has written.

The direction is capable but not inspired. The visual design, up until the hybrid, is fine - nothing that hadn't been seen before/done better though. The acting, even from Weaver, is weak and, at times, ham-handed.

Largely, though, the script is a mess. There was a chance for the writer(s) to really knock it out of the park. The two stories, that I mentioned above, had a real chance to come together and catch fire but they never do.

That being said, I entertain Resurrection as a tale "set in the Alien universe", but largely having nothing to do with Ripley's story. Similar to Star Wars' Extended Universe stuff. . .well, the lower-tier of the EU stuff. Take at that level, it's passable entertainment but not a very good Alien film.
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8:57AM on 01/16/2013
I liked Alien3, it was a nice closure for the Ripley storyline. So for me it was way too forced to bring her back as a clone. I never liked Sigourney Weavers (and the fans) attitude that the Alien franchise revolves around Ripley and not the xenomorphs. As a standalone it is fine, but as a part in the saga the cloning plot is too convoluted for my taste.
I liked Alien3, it was a nice closure for the Ripley storyline. So for me it was way too forced to bring her back as a clone. I never liked Sigourney Weavers (and the fans) attitude that the Alien franchise revolves around Ripley and not the xenomorphs. As a standalone it is fine, but as a part in the saga the cloning plot is too convoluted for my taste.
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8:35AM on 01/16/2013
Haven't seen the movie in a while but enjoyed it when I did see it. My enduring memory was Ripley shooting a basketball behind her back. Not sure that was supposed to be the most enduring scene :)
Haven't seen the movie in a while but enjoyed it when I did see it. My enduring memory was Ripley shooting a basketball behind her back. Not sure that was supposed to be the most enduring scene :)
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8:23AM on 01/16/2013
It was bad, but it wasn't THAT bad...
It was bad, but it wasn't THAT bad...
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8:20AM on 01/16/2013
Awful film. Worse than Alien vs Predator in my opinion. I can appreciate that each of the Alien films has a different feel to it and I'm a fan of the first three, but I can't help but think this film just totally missed the point. They had a few nice ideas, and the swimming Aliens bit was cool, but the majority of the film was just too goofy to work as an Aliens movie.
Awful film. Worse than Alien vs Predator in my opinion. I can appreciate that each of the Alien films has a different feel to it and I'm a fan of the first three, but I can't help but think this film just totally missed the point. They had a few nice ideas, and the swimming Aliens bit was cool, but the majority of the film was just too goofy to work as an Aliens movie.
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11:56PM on 01/16/2013
The first Aliens Vs Predator was better than this, but the second - Requiem - was a pile of hot garbage compared to this.
The first Aliens Vs Predator was better than this, but the second - Requiem - was a pile of hot garbage compared to this.
8:40AM on 01/17/2013
Requiem was just a slasher movie that happened to have Aliens/Predator in it. That said I've only seen it once.
I'd say Requiem and Resurrection are the worst Alien related movies. I actually really like Alien3. It understood the franchise and handled it in an interesting way. The fact that we didn't really get Fincher's vision for it is the only downside for me.
Requiem was just a slasher movie that happened to have Aliens/Predator in it. That said I've only seen it once.
I'd say Requiem and Resurrection are the worst Alien related movies. I actually really like Alien3. It understood the franchise and handled it in an interesting way. The fact that we didn't really get Fincher's vision for it is the only downside for me.
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8:07AM on 01/16/2013

dumbass...

This guy is a dumb ass. Everyone is entitled to a opinion, but only if it makes sense, and for some reason this guy thinks Alien: Resurrection is better than Serenity and Avengers. This movie is the Batman and robin of the alien series.There's a reason a 5th Alien movie wasn't made.
This guy is a dumb ass. Everyone is entitled to a opinion, but only if it makes sense, and for some reason this guy thinks Alien: Resurrection is better than Serenity and Avengers. This movie is the Batman and robin of the alien series.There's a reason a 5th Alien movie wasn't made.
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7:46AM on 01/16/2013
"Earth. What a shithole."
"Earth. What a shithole."
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11:35AM on 01/16/2013
"I'd rather stay here with the things man!"
"I'd rather stay here with the things man!"
5:52AM on 01/16/2013
"After using this column to profess my dislike for two Joss Whedon projects (SERENITY and THE AVENGERS)..."

I thought you were kidding! I thought it was a joke! I even wrote it down in my diary, "Alex Maidy on JoBlo had a very funny joke today!" I laughed at it later that night!

No, really, are you a crazy person?
"After using this column to profess my dislike for two Joss Whedon projects (SERENITY and THE AVENGERS)..."

I thought you were kidding! I thought it was a joke! I even wrote it down in my diary, "Alex Maidy on JoBlo had a very funny joke today!" I laughed at it later that night!

No, really, are you a crazy person?
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4:28AM on 01/16/2013

Quite Good

I liked this movie. It was sort of a reboot. Visually brilliant. Certian characters like the J.E Freeman could have been better developed rather than give the obligatory death scene. Final hybrid Alien reminded me of original Alien planet creatures although the sound effects could have been improved. But what love about the Alien movies is how each film looks different to the others even if they have similar plot lines. Alien3 is still one of my favs as the movie at that time was made to end
I liked this movie. It was sort of a reboot. Visually brilliant. Certian characters like the J.E Freeman could have been better developed rather than give the obligatory death scene. Final hybrid Alien reminded me of original Alien planet creatures although the sound effects could have been improved. But what love about the Alien movies is how each film looks different to the others even if they have similar plot lines. Alien3 is still one of my favs as the movie at that time was made to end all the Alien movies without realising they critically killed the franchise.
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3:51AM on 01/16/2013
Sure, it's not as good as Alien and Aliens but Alien: Resurrection is still an entertaining blockbuster.
Sure, it's not as good as Alien and Aliens but Alien: Resurrection is still an entertaining blockbuster.
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3:33AM on 01/16/2013

This movie is terrible

The Avengers was bad? And this movie is good? Your opinion on films is very, um, unique. Or you're a writer looking for attention. I'm leaning toward the latter. Alien 4 killed the franchise for a reason.
The Avengers was bad? And this movie is good? Your opinion on films is very, um, unique. Or you're a writer looking for attention. I'm leaning toward the latter. Alien 4 killed the franchise for a reason.
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3:06AM on 01/16/2013
I never got the hate for his one. I liked the characters, the visual and the action set pieces. And while it didnt fit into the franchise like Finchers Alien 3, it didnt disrespected the predecessors as part 3 did, with killing most of the major characters and therefore nullifying the actions of Ripley just for shock effect. But the Alien Hybrid...yeah, that was lame!
I never got the hate for his one. I liked the characters, the visual and the action set pieces. And while it didnt fit into the franchise like Finchers Alien 3, it didnt disrespected the predecessors as part 3 did, with killing most of the major characters and therefore nullifying the actions of Ripley just for shock effect. But the Alien Hybrid...yeah, that was lame!
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8:12AM on 01/16/2013
How did Alien 3 disrespect the previous two movies? I actually liked the 3rd movie, at least the directors cut with the added footage, i.e. the scene where they actually caught the alien
How did Alien 3 disrespect the previous two movies? I actually liked the 3rd movie, at least the directors cut with the added footage, i.e. the scene where they actually caught the alien
2:56AM on 01/16/2013
I like this one too. Unfortunately, it's another one of those movies that gets a lot of shit because of the fan worship its big brothers get. That's why I usually watch it by itself, rather than as a marathon of Alien movies. Taken on its own, there's a lot to like here. The entire crew of The Betty is fantastic, as are many of the characters on the military ship. The story does go a little haywire in parts, particularly in the 3rd act, and Ripley is kind of weird in it, but even with those
I like this one too. Unfortunately, it's another one of those movies that gets a lot of shit because of the fan worship its big brothers get. That's why I usually watch it by itself, rather than as a marathon of Alien movies. Taken on its own, there's a lot to like here. The entire crew of The Betty is fantastic, as are many of the characters on the military ship. The story does go a little haywire in parts, particularly in the 3rd act, and Ripley is kind of weird in it, but even with those issues and the liberties it takes with the traditional Alien canon, it's still not a bad film. I like it more than Alien 3, that's for sure.
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2:23AM on 01/16/2013

I remember liking it alot when it came out - hell I was in Jr high...

I ended up buying a copy of the shooting script, and got the making of book for Christmas, but looking back, while the film was a fun departure from the heavier horror roots of the franchise, it doesn't hold up after years away. I watched it after the other three back to back, and I was wondering why I liked it so much. Maybe it was Gary Dourdan's dreamy eyes, or the alien space enema. But I haven't seen it in a few years, so maybe I'll have to chec it out again without comparing. Either way,
I ended up buying a copy of the shooting script, and got the making of book for Christmas, but looking back, while the film was a fun departure from the heavier horror roots of the franchise, it doesn't hold up after years away. I watched it after the other three back to back, and I was wondering why I liked it so much. Maybe it was Gary Dourdan's dreamy eyes, or the alien space enema. But I haven't seen it in a few years, so maybe I'll have to chec it out again without comparing. Either way, it's no coincidence that the Alien Franchise was effectively euthanized after that installment.
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1:58AM on 01/16/2013

Ron Perlman owns this movie

the man as Johner has the best lines and completly steals the show, this film kickstarted my man crush on the dude and he's never disappointed since. With that said; compared to the first two installments this fllm is weak but one thing I enjoy is that doesn't attempt to copy the other entries; its truly a Jeunet Sci-Fi/Horror flick and if you look at it in a stand alone perspective its pretty fun. Not a classic but I've always enjoyed it based on its merits.
the man as Johner has the best lines and completly steals the show, this film kickstarted my man crush on the dude and he's never disappointed since. With that said; compared to the first two installments this fllm is weak but one thing I enjoy is that doesn't attempt to copy the other entries; its truly a Jeunet Sci-Fi/Horror flick and if you look at it in a stand alone perspective its pretty fun. Not a classic but I've always enjoyed it based on its merits.
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12:47AM on 01/16/2013
it not that bad just not as good as the first two aliens but better than the third one
it not that bad just not as good as the first two aliens but better than the third one
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8:14AM on 01/16/2013
You got it backwards, it was worse than the 3rd one.
You got it backwards, it was worse than the 3rd one.
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