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THE UNPOPULAR OPINION is an ongoing column featuring different takes on films that either the writer HATED, but that the majority of film fans LOVED, or that the writer LOVED, but that most others LOATHED. We're hoping this column will promote constructive and geek fueled discussion. Enjoy!

**** SOME SPOILERS ENSUE****

Captain America has ever been a favorite of mine since I first read my father's old Avengers comics, and I've always found it fascinating to see how his world interacted with a character so innately compassionate and courageous.  He was the sort of hero I wanted to be, physical abilities and shield and all, and my favorite stories were those which were able to challenge not only his physical prowess but those very qualities that set him apart and made him Cap. That goodness, that hope and faith and compassion and courage. That’s what made him exciting – not just the physical heroics, but the attacks Cap had to fight off that were aimed at his very soul.

Which is one of the main reasons why I found CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER to be such a dull viewing experience. When I first head rumors of Marvel’s grand plan leading up to THE AVENGERS, I looked forward to what they would do with Cap most of all.  But never has a superhero movie frustrated me so much with the sheer amount of cinematic potential lost.  I found this nothing but a bland movie that served little purpose except to introduce us to this character.  And while that may be all that Marvel wanted to do, I don't see why the movie couldn't also have been good while they were at it.

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"Whatever happens tomorrow you must promise me one thing. That you will stay who you are. Not a perfect soldier, but a good man."

I’ll start with one of the most glaring points – the lack of direction.  After seeing how Joe Johnston rescued THE WOLFMAN (read my UNPOPULAR OPINION of that film HERE) from being completely bad, I actually defended Marvel’s decision to pick him, but now I see why the naysayers believed him to be a poor choice: he's just a boring director. His camera work reveals almost nothing about the story or what the characters are going through, with shots that are almost distractingly plain and lacking in any storytelling illumination littering the movie right and left.  Johnston's work on CAPTAIN AMERICA is serviceable but not memorable, and he is certainly no Nolan.  Or Branagh.  Or Vaughn.  Or Singer.  Or even Favreau.

In a similar vein I think comes the movie’s score by Alan Silvestri, which for the most part can lay claim to being as uniformly uninspired as the directorial decisions. It too is serviceable but not memorable, a wash of “heroic” music cues. Thoughn again, none of the scores for Marvel’s movies have been much better. Silvestri’s music supports the action without elevating it, creating a wash of sound that blends together and does little to enhance/support a scene or deepen our connection to what is happening on screen. 

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"Do you want to kill Nazis?"
"I don't want to kill anybody. I don't like bullies; I don't care where they're from."

Fundamentally, CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER works fine as an introduction to Cap, but does not in the least work as a captivating story in and of itself. Steve Rogers is, in this rendition, engaging by being a character with true super-heroic qualities. On that level, this is indeed a suitably effective origin story for a character that speaks to the spirit of comic books themselves. It’s just too bad the plot level left an extraordinary amount to be desired. Oh, technically the plot hits all of the right notes, but it's also strangely empty of any real substance or genuine excitement and just moseys along until the credits roll.  The story of CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER is very obviously heroic without providing anything to really test the characters, and as such was a whole lot less interesting to experience than any of Marvel's other solo movies.

One clear example of this can be seen in what is very possibly meant to be the turning point in Cap’s journey, the moment his fight against Schmidt becomes personal – Bucky’s fall from the train. This moment is sad because it is Bucky who falls, yes, but not because of the way in which it happens. Bucky’s death happens in the story because it needs to, but is not presented in an engaging or affective manner. In metaphorical terms: soy protein plus vitamins mixed with water can give me the nutrition I need, but that doesn’t make it an interesting or tasty meal to eat.

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"Are you sure you know what you're doing?"
"Yeah. I punched out Adolf Hitler 200 times."

On another plot note, I found the sheer number of holes and jumps of convenience to be extremely distracting. I am often forgiving of such things if there are a few floating around, but with CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER it reached the point where there were so many that I simply couldn’t stop noticing and thinking about them. You can find jarring cuts, awfully story progression, sloppy world building, and convenient logic extension beyond the bounds of believability even for a comic book movie, with the most glaring example being the Tesseract itself.

The Tesseract is not given any sort of a consistent set of rules within which it operates, and as such it does serves no purpose other than to be the most hollow of MacGuffins. With it being such a powerful piece of “technology” that also serves as one of the plot’s center points, we as the audience need to be able in some small way to understand its capabilities and the way it interacts with the world if we are to connect with its existence. But one moment it’s hanging out in a wooden box, glowing blue but otherwise harmless, and yet later on it melts through layer upon layer of metal and falls into the ocean (where it then just chills out on the seabed?). It’s fine to not provide an explanation as to how or why a piece of magic or technology works in a story – but if you don’t, then at least do your audience the courtesy of consistency.

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"What makes you so special?"
"Nothing. I'm just a kid from Brooklyn."

I will say that the performances in this movie are pitch-perfect, with special commendations going to Stanley Tucci, Toby Jones, and Chris Evans, as they managed to bring depth of feeling, true human response, and a fierce sense of life to their roles. On the other hand there’s Hugo Weaving, an actor I’ve loved in every performance except for this one. Because in this one he brings nothing but a German accent – seriously, he managed to invest a sentient computer program with more life and character than he did the Red Skull. And so, of the two things I was most excited for leading up to my viewing – the performances of Chris Evans and Hugo Weaving – one impressed me and one left me feeling nothing at all.

Is this the worst superhero movie ever made? Of course not. Is it the most disappointing? No, it’s not that either. But nor is it anything close to exciting, interesting, or revelatory in the least. So perhaps, in my personal opinion, it would be apt to say that this is the most middle of the road superhero movie there currently is. The most missed opportunity. The most frustrating ghost of an adventure that could have been made with the material and artists available. In fact, if not for the occasionally grin-inducing dialogue, (almost) uniformly great performances, and slick closing credit sequence, I would have thought the whole time that I was watching not Marvel’s final film before THE AVENGERS but rather The Asylum’s newest movie – COLONEL AMERICA: THE FIRST REVENGER.

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"This is why you were chosen. Because a strong man, who has known power all his life, may lose respect for that power. But a weak man knows the value of strength, and knows compassion."

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Extra Tidbit: In the scene where Schmidt is being painted can be heard the best music cue in the movie. Too bad it's actually from EXCALIBUR (though perhaps even EXCALIBUR borrowed it from elsewhere).
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5:13PM on 05/24/2012
Well written article. I kinda sorta agree with you even though I think I liked it more than you did. Biggest problem for me was the ending: "I HAVE to crash this plane!" Uh, no you don't, Cap.

I'd rate the Marvel run-up movies as such (from best to worst):

Iron Man
Thor
Captain America: The First Avenger
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Well written article. I kinda sorta agree with you even though I think I liked it more than you did. Biggest problem for me was the ending: "I HAVE to crash this plane!" Uh, no you don't, Cap.

I'd rate the Marvel run-up movies as such (from best to worst):

Iron Man
Thor
Captain America: The First Avenger
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
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10:42PM on 05/23/2012

Captain America

Worst of the Marvel Adaptations leading up to the Avengers. Just dull, pure and simple. But then, it's hard to compete with Iron Man.
Worst of the Marvel Adaptations leading up to the Avengers. Just dull, pure and simple. But then, it's hard to compete with Iron Man.
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7:11PM on 05/23/2012
This is my favorite new column on joblo since they got rid of Body Shop in Movie Hotties. This is the exact type of column I would write if I wrote for joblo. Anyway, completely agree on this one. Captain America was just kinda dull for me, I was never swept up into the story or even the action. His group of army buddies felt way underutilized. Plus I'm no expert but I thought Bucky was an important character in the Captain America world but they killed him off? It would be lame if he
This is my favorite new column on joblo since they got rid of Body Shop in Movie Hotties. This is the exact type of column I would write if I wrote for joblo. Anyway, completely agree on this one. Captain America was just kinda dull for me, I was never swept up into the story or even the action. His group of army buddies felt way underutilized. Plus I'm no expert but I thought Bucky was an important character in the Captain America world but they killed him off? It would be lame if he also showed up in a block of ice in the sequel. I did like Chris Evans and Stanley Tucci and the Cap suit was badass but overall just not a movie I feel inclined to watch again.
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7:05PM on 05/23/2012
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Haley Atwell, who I thought gave the best performance in the Marvel films outside of Paltrow (which is a complement figuring the pro's like Portman, Johansson, and Tyler). The supporting cast was great (Tommy Lee Jones, Tucci, etc) and Evans did a great job as Rogers. My biggest complaint is the boring action montages that lack excitment. Also, the ending seemed rushed to get Capt into the prsent day to set up Avengers. Ideally, I think Captain should have had
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Haley Atwell, who I thought gave the best performance in the Marvel films outside of Paltrow (which is a complement figuring the pro's like Portman, Johansson, and Tyler). The supporting cast was great (Tommy Lee Jones, Tucci, etc) and Evans did a great job as Rogers. My biggest complaint is the boring action montages that lack excitment. Also, the ending seemed rushed to get Capt into the prsent day to set up Avengers. Ideally, I think Captain should have had 2 movies leading up to Avengers.
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5:50PM on 05/23/2012
I must say, while I disagree with you on almost every point, this is a fantastically written article. Every point is set, then illustrated clearly and concisely. Bravo.
I must say, while I disagree with you on almost every point, this is a fantastically written article. Every point is set, then illustrated clearly and concisely. Bravo.
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8:19PM on 05/23/2012
Hey thanks! Really appreciate the feedback!
Hey thanks! Really appreciate the feedback!
5:41PM on 05/23/2012
Completely agreed! This might be the most mediocre comic book adaptation of all time.
Completely agreed! This might be the most mediocre comic book adaptation of all time.
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2:05PM on 05/24/2012
You obviously haven't seen the 'other' Captain America movie then.
You obviously haven't seen the 'other' Captain America movie then.
4:09PM on 05/28/2012
No, that was just terrible. I'm talking most middle of the road film here. The new Cap wasn't horrible, just dull and boring.
No, that was just terrible. I'm talking most middle of the road film here. The new Cap wasn't horrible, just dull and boring.
4:55PM on 05/23/2012

disagree

Captain America is something of a minor miracle imo. It was gonna be hard not to have this thing come off as overly cheesy or goofy. It kept the flag waving nonsense down and played it straight. The core character of Steve Rogers was intact all the way through and the movie had great production values. Some of the CGI effects are iffy and the pacing gets off kilter when entering the third act, but other then that I think Cap pulled off a pretty hard job.
I also dug the old school adventure
Captain America is something of a minor miracle imo. It was gonna be hard not to have this thing come off as overly cheesy or goofy. It kept the flag waving nonsense down and played it straight. The core character of Steve Rogers was intact all the way through and the movie had great production values. Some of the CGI effects are iffy and the pacing gets off kilter when entering the third act, but other then that I think Cap pulled off a pretty hard job.
I also dug the old school adventure vibe the flick had going for it. The action being MOSTLY physical and not all CGI.
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2:55PM on 05/23/2012
You're right. The movie was... okay. Action wasn't stellar but it was... there. The movie was plain and simple and it got the job done i guess. Basically Cap got established and I believed in him. I found him compelling as Skinny Rogers, interesting when he became Super Rogers, and then I steadily got bored as the story progressed. Everything was predictable and not altogether exciting. But it wasn't terrible, it felt like the movie's purpose was to simply give us information. Note that i
You're right. The movie was... okay. Action wasn't stellar but it was... there. The movie was plain and simple and it got the job done i guess. Basically Cap got established and I believed in him. I found him compelling as Skinny Rogers, interesting when he became Super Rogers, and then I steadily got bored as the story progressed. Everything was predictable and not altogether exciting. But it wasn't terrible, it felt like the movie's purpose was to simply give us information. Note that i didn't know Avengers would be amazing after I saw this movie so it left much to be desired. I think some cleverer action, given the steady plot of this movie, would have given this movie a nice boost, but what do I know. I'm glad we got the Avengers so those of us who didn't quite enjoy this movie can put it behind us till a better one is made, if warranted. One of the reasons i liked the Avengers so much was because Whedon managed to keep surprising us every step of the way. I didn't expect many of the things that happened despite knowing that the heroes would win. Cap's movie didn't offer the experience of that aspect and i guess that's why i didn't enjoy it as much as i would have liked.
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2:53PM on 05/23/2012
Cap is fun. To be honest, I'm surprised how tepid some of these Marvel flicks are on a second run through... Iron Man is really the only one that holds up to intense scrutiny... I didn't like Iron Man 2 and Thor at all... Hulk is good but I feel like that will be lost in the fold as a result of Norton not returning. The Avengers came together amazingly but the individual character movies often leave a lot to be desired. Cap is probably my second or third favorite though.
Cap is fun. To be honest, I'm surprised how tepid some of these Marvel flicks are on a second run through... Iron Man is really the only one that holds up to intense scrutiny... I didn't like Iron Man 2 and Thor at all... Hulk is good but I feel like that will be lost in the fold as a result of Norton not returning. The Avengers came together amazingly but the individual character movies often leave a lot to be desired. Cap is probably my second or third favorite though.
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2:51PM on 05/23/2012
i find all the marvel movies to be sort of middle of the the road, but Cap's movie was on the low end with Iron Man II. The only thing that saved Thor was humor and fantasy stuff.
i find all the marvel movies to be sort of middle of the the road, but Cap's movie was on the low end with Iron Man II. The only thing that saved Thor was humor and fantasy stuff.
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1:28PM on 05/23/2012
Agree 100% about Joe Johnston being a boring director. Dude is just plain vanilla. You can like vanilla all you like but that shit can be bland from time to time.
Agree 100% about Joe Johnston being a boring director. Dude is just plain vanilla. You can like vanilla all you like but that shit can be bland from time to time.
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1:20PM on 05/23/2012

Yeah I kinda agree with this one

Cap is my favorite Marvel character (but not saying much since I'm a hard-core DC guy), and this really was kind of a 9-point-meh film. This is really one of those "it had all the pieces but it couldn't fit together". And I think the problem really comes from it not so much being a Captain America film, more that it was the prologue to the Avengers, the plot was more concerned with getting Cap to the present.
Cap is my favorite Marvel character (but not saying much since I'm a hard-core DC guy), and this really was kind of a 9-point-meh film. This is really one of those "it had all the pieces but it couldn't fit together". And I think the problem really comes from it not so much being a Captain America film, more that it was the prologue to the Avengers, the plot was more concerned with getting Cap to the present.
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12:47PM on 05/23/2012

A Great Start

Having read the comics for two decades and counting, I was nervous the most about Cap's transition to the big screen. I was doubtful in the beginning and felt that it would be a train wreck.

To my surprise, it was a fitting and true-to-the-roots adaptation of the character to the big screen. It was an origin film in every sense of the word and introduced the character in a memorable way.

Cap's a tough sell for a lot of people, especially cynics, so I get that. He's got a lot of
Having read the comics for two decades and counting, I was nervous the most about Cap's transition to the big screen. I was doubtful in the beginning and felt that it would be a train wreck.

To my surprise, it was a fitting and true-to-the-roots adaptation of the character to the big screen. It was an origin film in every sense of the word and introduced the character in a memorable way.

Cap's a tough sell for a lot of people, especially cynics, so I get that. He's got a lot of idealism and conflict based on his roots in WWII and the intense shift from when he's awakened from the ice, which is something briefly touched on in The Avengers, but is the centerpiece of the character in the comics. "A man out of time" plucked from one generation to lead another. No small feat.

Captain America: The First Avenger is a great set-up for future films of the character and stands on its own as a rousing, old-fashioned superhero flick. As is Marvel's model, it lays down a framework that can be revisited over and over again.

I don't think it's a perfect film, but a "fitting" film for the character. I think Joe Johnston was a good choice for the intro film, but doesn't have the sensibilities for a modern take on Cap. I was also disappointed that there wasn't more bonafide action in Cap. The montage sequence, while cool, had many iconic shots that would've been served better in the context of an actual scene, rather than a montage.

As far as the score goes, I completely disagree. Silvestri didn't compose anything groundbreaking, but something perfectly suited and rousing. The scene where Steve just gets his powers and chases down Schmidt has an excellent cue that gets me pumped every time I see it. I actually felt that Silvestri did an outstanding job on The Avengers as well, creating a superhero theme that matched the content. The scene where Banner shows up at the end, turns into the Hulk and takes out that worm creature has a perfectly matched and blended score that gives me goosebumps from hell every time I see it. As a score aficionado, I listen to just about everything and I think oftentimes it benefits the viewer to hear the music out of context and then in context. You really take notice and appreciate the music that much more.

Anyways, I'm done with my novel. I respectfully disagree and feel that Captain America: The First Avenger is a great (albeit, not perfect) entry into the Marvel series and I can't wait to see what lies ahead for the character on film.

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11:06AM on 05/23/2012

Good, not great

I had a good time with Captain America, but I can't say I was really impressed by it. It had a nice story and the Captain was suprisingly a very nice and likeable character (bear in mind that I don't know anything about Captain America comics), but it was full of plot holes (why the hell didn't the Nazis attack HYDRA since they knew that they had double crossed them and that they were essentially building weapons of mass destruction that they intended to use against Germany, right in their back
I had a good time with Captain America, but I can't say I was really impressed by it. It had a nice story and the Captain was suprisingly a very nice and likeable character (bear in mind that I don't know anything about Captain America comics), but it was full of plot holes (why the hell didn't the Nazis attack HYDRA since they knew that they had double crossed them and that they were essentially building weapons of mass destruction that they intended to use against Germany, right in their back yard?) and for me, it just didn't have any real "WOW" moments. Still, it was a fun movie, just not as good as the two Iron Man movies or Thor.
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11:06AM on 05/23/2012

Wtf mate?!

I type a huge response, submit it and it's gone. Well for the short SHORT version. Didnt like the score, to "America Fuck Yea" for me. Cap shouldve blown the eff up after crashing the suicide bomb into the main bomber plane at the end. I also feel Evans didn't deliver on the commanding voice of Cap. That's one of the main reasons soldiers follow him. He is a great commander and leader. best summarized here. [link]
I type a huge response, submit it and it's gone. Well for the short SHORT version. Didnt like the score, to "America Fuck Yea" for me. Cap shouldve blown the eff up after crashing the suicide bomb into the main bomber plane at the end. I also feel Evans didn't deliver on the commanding voice of Cap. That's one of the main reasons soldiers follow him. He is a great commander and leader. best summarized here. [link]
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11:03AM on 05/23/2012
I don't agree with this article at all. I believe that Captain America: First Avenger was the hardest film to pull off leading to the Avengers because of the character of Captain America, his superpowers, finding a great leading man to symbolize our country, and bringing all of this to life and making it work in a difficult time period.

I thought Captain America was a PEFFECT origins story that really represented the character in every way and really symbolized why he was a symbol or our
I don't agree with this article at all. I believe that Captain America: First Avenger was the hardest film to pull off leading to the Avengers because of the character of Captain America, his superpowers, finding a great leading man to symbolize our country, and bringing all of this to life and making it work in a difficult time period.

I thought Captain America was a PEFFECT origins story that really represented the character in every way and really symbolized why he was a symbol or our leader for our country fighting the war. And shows why he eventually becomes the great leader of The Avengers. Also, not even for one second did I not believe that I wasn't in that time period because the movie was directed so well and the cinematography was also shot very accurately. As if you are in the war yourself, fighting alongside Captain America.

The movie is just fun; plain and simple. It's not trying to be something that it isn't. The movie made me proud to be a comic book film fan and made me feel like a kid again watching one of my favorite superheroes. It also made me damn PROUD to be an American (no offense to anyone here who isn't).

I just think that this film is perfect and had alot of heart with its story and characters. A 10/10 for me.
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11:11AM on 05/23/2012
10 out of 10!? Ok that's just crazy talk and I can see that you are from your profile pic.
10 out of 10!? Ok that's just crazy talk and I can see that you are from your profile pic.
11:00AM on 05/23/2012

Wait...

Any director who decides he doesn't need to shoot close ups because he can "just zoom into my wide shots" doesn't deserve to be given 2 cents to make a porno. Joe Johnston should literally never direct again.
Any director who decides he doesn't need to shoot close ups because he can "just zoom into my wide shots" doesn't deserve to be given 2 cents to make a porno. Joe Johnston should literally never direct again.
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10:50AM on 05/23/2012
I agree about the directing and the score--like you say, none of the Marvel movies have had very good scores. But the characters and the performances were what I was most interested in, and for me this film delivered. It had an old-fashioned adventure feel to it--it wasn't perfectly plotted and characters like Red Skull didn't have a terrible amount of depth, but boy was it fun.

It's actually my second favorite Marvel solo film--after Iron Man, of course.
I agree about the directing and the score--like you say, none of the Marvel movies have had very good scores. But the characters and the performances were what I was most interested in, and for me this film delivered. It had an old-fashioned adventure feel to it--it wasn't perfectly plotted and characters like Red Skull didn't have a terrible amount of depth, but boy was it fun.

It's actually my second favorite Marvel solo film--after Iron Man, of course.
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10:25AM on 05/23/2012
I liked Captain America, First Avenger. But it was a flawed film. Not close to the awesomeness of The Avengers.
I liked Captain America, First Avenger. But it was a flawed film. Not close to the awesomeness of The Avengers.
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10:21AM on 05/23/2012
I fully agree with this and have felt this with every marvel movie after blade 2, except ironman. All the others have been extremely bland and straight forward as if they know the movies are like stepping stones to the avengers which suffered many of tue same issues too
I fully agree with this and have felt this with every marvel movie after blade 2, except ironman. All the others have been extremely bland and straight forward as if they know the movies are like stepping stones to the avengers which suffered many of tue same issues too
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10:06AM on 05/23/2012
Captain America is easily my favorite of the pre-Avengers movies. It's rousing, old fashioned, and has a true authorial stamp. I love it.
Captain America is easily my favorite of the pre-Avengers movies. It's rousing, old fashioned, and has a true authorial stamp. I love it.
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9:44AM on 05/23/2012
I thought Evans did a 1000x's better job in Avengers than in Capt America. Although I like the WWII outfit much better than the Avengers outfit.
I thought Evans did a 1000x's better job in Avengers than in Capt America. Although I like the WWII outfit much better than the Avengers outfit.
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9:42AM on 05/23/2012
There are some points that I agree with about cap. Even though I own this movie and do enjoy watching it, I think it could've been a lot better. It is my least favorite movie when it comes to the MCU and is the only one i've seen people fall asleep to.

Also, when it comes to Bucky, I did feel his death was rather quick and the only one who felt anything was Cap while the rest of us didn't have much emotions because he didn't have a lot of screen time.
There are some points that I agree with about cap. Even though I own this movie and do enjoy watching it, I think it could've been a lot better. It is my least favorite movie when it comes to the MCU and is the only one i've seen people fall asleep to.

Also, when it comes to Bucky, I did feel his death was rather quick and the only one who felt anything was Cap while the rest of us didn't have much emotions because he didn't have a lot of screen time.
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9:38AM on 05/23/2012
I love the movie, but I agree with you on Hugo Weaving. I loved Red Skull, but Hugo could have made him memorable, like he did with Agent Smith.
I love the movie, but I agree with you on Hugo Weaving. I loved Red Skull, but Hugo could have made him memorable, like he did with Agent Smith.
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9:03AM on 05/23/2012
I tend to agree with you. I liked the beginning. I even liked the USO tours part. I think up until the first meeting with Schmidt things were at least fairly smooth. Then came the music video montage of Cap kicking German ass that just wasn't terribly exciting.

There wasn't enough done with his fellow soldiers either. And once Hydra started carrying laser guns, I was completely out of it.

I love The Rocketeer, and Johnston brought much of that nostalgia to this one. And anytime Dominic
I tend to agree with you. I liked the beginning. I even liked the USO tours part. I think up until the first meeting with Schmidt things were at least fairly smooth. Then came the music video montage of Cap kicking German ass that just wasn't terribly exciting.

There wasn't enough done with his fellow soldiers either. And once Hydra started carrying laser guns, I was completely out of it.

I love The Rocketeer, and Johnston brought much of that nostalgia to this one. And anytime Dominic Cooper or Stanley Tucci were onscreen it became that much more engaging. I really liked Cooper's Howard Stark.

While I agree fully that Bucky's death lacked drama, I think that wasn't the film's biggest problem. From the time that Cap started actually fighting, up until Bucky's death, there is no narrative progression in the action really aside from Hydra is losing. It became boring fast. Which doesn't excuse a pretty awesome first act. So I liked it, but it's one of the reasons I've become very jaded with the super-hero movie.
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9:03AM on 05/23/2012
It's a painfully mediocre film that could've been made a lot better by a tighter script and some better direction.
It's a painfully mediocre film that could've been made a lot better by a tighter script and some better direction.
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9:00AM on 05/23/2012
While I do agree with a few of your points... I enjoyed the movie and thought it had a good story if not a good superhero story.
While I do agree with a few of your points... I enjoyed the movie and thought it had a good story if not a good superhero story.
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8:59AM on 05/23/2012
While I respect your points.. I thought it was a fun movie to watch.

But try to think about it from a "non-American" perspective (although I'm from South America.. but that's a totally different argument), it could have gone waaay to cheesy and the "we are US and we rock" path, instead it was about a nice guy with principles fighting for what he believes it's right. In a world of anti-heroes and wise-cracks I think it was a nice change of pace.

Anyway.. Marvel movies are to be enjoyed,
While I respect your points.. I thought it was a fun movie to watch.

But try to think about it from a "non-American" perspective (although I'm from South America.. but that's a totally different argument), it could have gone waaay to cheesy and the "we are US and we rock" path, instead it was about a nice guy with principles fighting for what he believes it's right. In a world of anti-heroes and wise-cracks I think it was a nice change of pace.

Anyway.. Marvel movies are to be enjoyed, that is it, and I love how CapAmerica, Thor, they all set up the frame for the Avengers, which ended up being 2 steps beyond awesome!
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8:11AM on 05/23/2012
The movie was dull. But once Steve Rogers becomes Super Soldier (Chris Evans in buff form), then the movie starts gathering steam and go on with fun action sequences. It's not a bad movie, per se. Much better than Green Lantern. Perhaps because Captain America has more materials to work with.
The movie was dull. But once Steve Rogers becomes Super Soldier (Chris Evans in buff form), then the movie starts gathering steam and go on with fun action sequences. It's not a bad movie, per se. Much better than Green Lantern. Perhaps because Captain America has more materials to work with.
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8:24AM on 05/23/2012
See, I felt the exact opposite. Once he became Super Soldier is when the movie began to lose steam for me.
See, I felt the exact opposite. Once he became Super Soldier is when the movie began to lose steam for me.
7:28AM on 05/23/2012

Captain America...

... Was not a bad film. It was an ok film. It had a couple of moments but overall was just a bit boring with a climatic ending that wasn't really that climatic (the events leading up to the fight on the jet specifically as well as the fight on the jet). The Red Skull was cool though as was Chris Evans' performance. Everything else was just... ok.
... Was not a bad film. It was an ok film. It had a couple of moments but overall was just a bit boring with a climatic ending that wasn't really that climatic (the events leading up to the fight on the jet specifically as well as the fight on the jet). The Red Skull was cool though as was Chris Evans' performance. Everything else was just... ok.
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6:27AM on 05/23/2012

I disagree...I found it "blah" the first time through...

I don't even have to watch it twice to realize I didn't like it nearly as much as most of the others (though I agree that Iron Man 2 was way below what I'd hoped for).

In my case though, it's probably partly due to the fact that I find Captain America a kind of boring to begin with.
I don't even have to watch it twice to realize I didn't like it nearly as much as most of the others (though I agree that Iron Man 2 was way below what I'd hoped for).

In my case though, it's probably partly due to the fact that I find Captain America a kind of boring to begin with.
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5:37AM on 05/23/2012
Yes, it's still as awesome as I remember it.
Yes, it's still as awesome as I remember it.
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5:00AM on 05/23/2012

I sorta liked it.

And in my opninion Iron Man 2 was the worst lead up film to the Avengers by far. That being said, I think I sorta liked it because I expected nothing. In the Netherlands this film got pretty bad reviews all around and everyone I know who had seen it fucking hated it. So when I finally watched it on dvd I thought it wasn't that bad. The performances were pretty good, especially Evans. Which is very important since he's Cap! Also I think they did a fantastic job in the beginning, when he looked
And in my opninion Iron Man 2 was the worst lead up film to the Avengers by far. That being said, I think I sorta liked it because I expected nothing. In the Netherlands this film got pretty bad reviews all around and everyone I know who had seen it fucking hated it. So when I finally watched it on dvd I thought it wasn't that bad. The performances were pretty good, especially Evans. Which is very important since he's Cap! Also I think they did a fantastic job in the beginning, when he looked like a thin little shit. Overall the movie was pretty dull though, with a couple of unintended laugh out loud moments. Especially the scene where Cap is sneaking his way into this facility, which looks allright, until you see his back and the giant glowing shield attached to it!?!
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4:46AM on 05/23/2012
When I saw the movie for the first time, I thought it was a decent movie. But then I saw it a second time (after watching "The Avengers"), I liked it better. Now it's a solid 8/10 for me.
When I saw the movie for the first time, I thought it was a decent movie. But then I saw it a second time (after watching "The Avengers"), I liked it better. Now it's a solid 8/10 for me.
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4:36AM on 05/23/2012
I enjoyed it but really did feel that it would have worked better as a mini series.
I enjoyed it but really did feel that it would have worked better as a mini series.
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4:26AM on 05/23/2012
I think Captain America was a fun adventure movie. From storytelling it sometimes felt like Indiana Jones. I also liked the hero and most of the other characters.
It was also way better than Thor, because Thor was very shallow and featured a hero with a superlow IQ.
Iron Man is still the best Marvel movie, so far (Avangers was fun though).
I think Captain America was a fun adventure movie. From storytelling it sometimes felt like Indiana Jones. I also liked the hero and most of the other characters.
It was also way better than Thor, because Thor was very shallow and featured a hero with a superlow IQ.
Iron Man is still the best Marvel movie, so far (Avangers was fun though).
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3:33AM on 05/23/2012
If you think Captain America was bad and the Wolfman was good, there may be no hope for you.
If you think Captain America was bad and the Wolfman was good, there may be no hope for you.
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3:23AM on 05/23/2012
I'm sorry, but I think Iron Man 2 was the weakest movie leading up to the Avengers.
I'm sorry, but I think Iron Man 2 was the weakest movie leading up to the Avengers.
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3:21AM on 05/23/2012

Agreed

As soon as i left the theatre i forgot about the film, on the ride home no one really talked about it.. It left me with a bland taste, it was a good introduction film, but nothing more.

I hope they really get deeper into his character for the next film.

Also i blame, Joe Johnston for Hugo Weaving's performance (not Hugo)
As soon as i left the theatre i forgot about the film, on the ride home no one really talked about it.. It left me with a bland taste, it was a good introduction film, but nothing more.

I hope they really get deeper into his character for the next film.

Also i blame, Joe Johnston for Hugo Weaving's performance (not Hugo)
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2:03AM on 05/23/2012
I would agree if this were Thor. Captain America was great, imo.
I would agree if this were Thor. Captain America was great, imo.
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1:54AM on 05/23/2012

Noooope.

Captain America rivals Iron Man as my favorite of all the Marvel films. And perhaps the easiest one for me to watch again and again.

Only a director like Joe Johnston could have walked the tightrope this movie had to do. How do you have a movie about a man with superpowers fighting the Nazis without diminishing the fact that World War II was a very real, very brutal conflict that was fought and won by everyday people? Cue that perfect moment at the end of the War Bonds tour, as Cap is
Captain America rivals Iron Man as my favorite of all the Marvel films. And perhaps the easiest one for me to watch again and again.

Only a director like Joe Johnston could have walked the tightrope this movie had to do. How do you have a movie about a man with superpowers fighting the Nazis without diminishing the fact that World War II was a very real, very brutal conflict that was fought and won by everyday people? Cue that perfect moment at the end of the War Bonds tour, as Cap is delivering his propaganda spiel to dirty, grizzled, and silent soldiers on the frontlines. He has to earn respect from these guys. And he doesn't so much rescue their comrades as he does help them rescue themselves. And of course he requires their help at every stage after that. And other things...like before going on his campaign against Hydra, Cap recruits his team at a Pub...and when he returns to London he goes back to the same Pub and its been bombed out by the Blitz. Little things that made clear, he can't do everything...the war wouldn't actually end with him landing a right hook to Hitler's jaw.

So much about this movie punched above its weight and surpassed all the other Pre-Avengers films. From Stanley Tucci's heartfelt monologue about pre-Hitler Germany to the consistent feel of the movie that never reveals its seams. And Chris Evans plays that extraordinarily difficult role to perfection. Subtle, quiet, noble reserve...but not without self-doubt and a self-deprecating sense of humor. And to his enormous credit Evans carried that tone in performance through in The Avengers, not breaking character despite the change in director, style, and setting.

A movie that would have been so so easy to screw up and they knocked it out of the park.

It is Joe Johnston's best movie by far (and I'm including Honey I Shrunk the Kids.) The sets, props, characters, subtle storytelling charms, and the powerhouse performances.
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1:46AM on 05/23/2012
"After seeing how Joe Johnston rescued The Wolfman..."
-Stopped reading.
Not a great way to start an anti-Captain America review and show me why you didn't like a movie I loved yet praising one I hated. I said 'good day,' sir!
"After seeing how Joe Johnston rescued The Wolfman..."
-Stopped reading.
Not a great way to start an anti-Captain America review and show me why you didn't like a movie I loved yet praising one I hated. I said 'good day,' sir!
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1:11AM on 05/23/2012

I agree

I'm 32 and even saw the 90s version.. My father, 61, loves Cap the most. We both agreed the movie was just...dull! We were never on the edge of our seats. We were both upset at the end product. Not a great movie but not a bad movie. Evans did a damn good job, though. But yet...Thor easily won over Cap N. I was quite dissapointed. I think it's Johnson's directing. I remember watching The Rocketeer. I think i was like 10 but even then I never felt any danger. It was too damn predicatable.
I'm 32 and even saw the 90s version.. My father, 61, loves Cap the most. We both agreed the movie was just...dull! We were never on the edge of our seats. We were both upset at the end product. Not a great movie but not a bad movie. Evans did a damn good job, though. But yet...Thor easily won over Cap N. I was quite dissapointed. I think it's Johnson's directing. I remember watching The Rocketeer. I think i was like 10 but even then I never felt any danger. It was too damn predicatable.
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12:47AM on 05/23/2012
Yeah, I would say Captain America was OK, just not great. The build-up to him becoming Captain America was great, but everything after the part where he rescues Bucky and the soldiers, just felt rushed. It was like "Montage Time!" and now he's a decorated war hero! While the action was plentiful it was nothing mind-blowing. And yet we get another anti-climactic battle with the main villain, which seems to be the trend with almost all of the Marvel-produced movies. You're on point with Hugo
Yeah, I would say Captain America was OK, just not great. The build-up to him becoming Captain America was great, but everything after the part where he rescues Bucky and the soldiers, just felt rushed. It was like "Montage Time!" and now he's a decorated war hero! While the action was plentiful it was nothing mind-blowing. And yet we get another anti-climactic battle with the main villain, which seems to be the trend with almost all of the Marvel-produced movies. You're on point with Hugo Weaving. He pretty much slept-walk through the entire movie.
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12:39AM on 05/23/2012
I agree, out of all the other movies leading up to The Avengers, this was the weakest.
I agree, out of all the other movies leading up to The Avengers, this was the weakest.
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1:17AM on 05/23/2012
Your forgetting about IRON MAN 2, which was quite the piece of S#@T,
Your forgetting about IRON MAN 2, which was quite the piece of S#@T,
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