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The UnPopular Opinion: Daredevil

Aug. 28, 2013by: Alex Maidy

THE UNPOPULAR OPINION is an ongoing column featuring different takes on films that either the writer HATED, but that the majority of film fans LOVED, or that the writer LOVED, but that most others LOATHED. We're hoping this column will promote constructive and geek fueled discussion. Enjoy!

****SOME SPOILERS ENSUE****

Now that he has been cast as the next Batman, Ben Affleck is being mercilessly pummelled in all forms of social media as being miscast. Petitions are going up calling for the Oscar-winning director's head and very few are thinking logically. Sure, the guy starred in and directed three of the best movies of the last ten years in GONE BABY GONE, THE TOWN, and ARGO, but he will not be able to live down being the man who starred in GIGLI, JERSEY GIRL, and PEARL HARBOR. But, when analyzing whether he is the right man to take on the role of a masked superhero, the only film you can use for comparison is 2003's DAREDEVIL.

If we are using DAREDEVIL as the basis for judging whether Affleck is fit to be Batman, then I have to say he is the man for the job. DAREDEVIL has built a reputation over the years as being a bad movie when it is actually pretty good. If any gripes can be made about the movie, they are directly related to the shitty costume design choices, but aside from that, DAREDEVIL is a solid comic book movie. With all of the frustration spewed on the Internet regarding changing classic characters and updating what we have come to expect from the illustrated page, DAREDEVIL has fallen into that category without many people going back to rewatch the movie to honestly judge if it was bad at all.

First off, we have to judge DAREDEVIL based on the era in which it was made. I know it sounds ridiculous to refer to ten years ago as an "era", but comic book movies were very different then. If you look at the movies released within two years of DAREDEVIL, you have X2, HULK, SPIDER-MAN, and FANTASTIC FOUR. I have already made known that I feel FANTASTIC FOUR did a good job of creating a live action comic book. The X-MEN franchise withstanding, Marvel movies in the early 2000s carried a much different tone and feel than they do post-IRON MAN. They felt more unrealistic and cartoonish and didn't carry the "realistic" vibe that almost all superhero movies now have. THE AVENGERS and most of the Marvel Cinematic Universe are a hybrid of comic book and hyper-realistic characters that did not exist with SPIDER-MAN and DAREDEVIL.

Mark Steven Johnson was tasked with taking one of the more unrealistic heroes in DAREDEVIL and making him seem three dimensional. At the point it was made, Ben Affleck was not quite at GIGLI level but was also not the man who would win the Oscar for ARGO, either. Affleck is not a bad actor by any means, but is he superhero caliber? I ask you, did anyone see Tobey Maguire working as Spider-man? Or Hugh Jackman as Wolverine? No. Affleck, as a fan of the Daredevil comics, read every single issue of the comic book to prepare himself to do the role justice. And he did.

The original character of Matt Murdock, as created by Stan Lee, Bill Everett, and Jack Kirby, is a less dark take on the hero than the Frank Miller version from the 1980s that we have all come to associate with the comic. The original DAREDEVIL was similar to SPIDER-MAN in that Matt Murdock gains his powers during a freak accident and becomes his masked persona after the death of his father. Spider-man was never criticized for being less dark as compared to all of the other Marvel heroes, so to say that DAREDEVIL is not dark enough is not a valid reason to hate on the film. Ben Affleck did his research and plays Murdock and Daredevil as proponents of justice and only using violence when no other means will suffice. Affleck does not fall into the Christian Bale hole of using a grumble to become the alter ego but instead dons the costume and fights for what he believes in.

While the costume may look a little silly, DAREDEVIL does feature some modernizations and changes that do work well. For instance, the late Michael Clarke Duncan is the perfect Kingpin. Much was made of changing the villain's race for the movie, but there are few characters of any physical stature that could have realistically played Wilson Fisk. Duncan convincingly plays the bad guy who doesn't really have any superpowers aside from his strength. The same goes for Colin Farrell's take on Bullseye. Many blame Mark Steven Johnson for the change in Bullseye's appearance when in fact it was Marvel's Joe Quesada who convinced the director to go with the scar look.

Jennifer Garner's Elektra was also a point of contention for audiences. Elektra should have been an easy character to play and she does work on screen. While her standalone film was truly awful, Garner does bring a nice balance to Affleck's hero. Their chemistry on screen went on to become a marriage off screen as well. There is something to be said for two individuals connecting and you can see it when you watch DAREDEVIL. The back and forth between these two is one of the more natural parts of the movie.

All criticisms of DAREDEVIL seem to focus on the actors and Ben Affleck's costume and no one seems to say anything about the action sequences. The reason why? They are pretty damn good. Say what you will about the dialogue delivered from any of the cast, but the action scenes, especially those using Matt Murdock's enhanced senses, are some of the best uses of perspective outside of IRON MAN's interior suit shots or THE DARK KNIGHT's Bat-vision scenes. DAREDEVIL successfully showcases an acrobatic hero who could take on an enemy of The Kingpin's stature. The dark nature of the DAREDEVIL plot does not prevent the movie from having several well-lit action setpieces while still providing audiences with well choreographed nighttime scenes.

Much like Affleck is taking the mantle of Batman from Keaton, Kilmer, Clooney, and Bale, someone will step in and take over the next DAREDEVIL movie. Will it be the darker, 1980s vigilante movie that Joe Carnahan pitched? Maybe, and that would be a fine film. Could Disney and Marvel bring us a Daredevil and Black Widow movie, much like their iconic comic arc? That would be great, too. But, knowing that Disney controls the future of The Man Without Fear, you can expect the tone and style of the film will likely be very similar to the movie we have already seen. And that is not a bad thing.

For a comic book with characters with non-superpowers (aside from Daredevil), DAREDEVIL still manages to ground itself in a comic book universe. Maybe that is the problem that many audiences have. Yes, DAREDEVIL is the perfect Marvel character, aside from The Punisher, to be given a gritty and realistic movie, but unlike The Punisher, Daredevil can lean either way. The director's cut of DAREDEVIL is vastly superior to the theatrical version, adding back in a lot more of the serious tone audiences were expecting. It still manages to be a fun movie without getting too dour, but many haven't seen this alternate cut. I highly recommend you check it out on Blu-ray or DVD and see that DAREDEVIL, while not one of the best superhero movies ever made, it is certainly nowhere near the worst and is still enjoyable on repeat viewings.

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Extra Tidbit: I have been critical of DAREDEVIL in the past but it took a new viewing of the film for me to defend it for this column. I find the Director's Cut vastly superior to the theatrical version.
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6:33PM on 08/29/2013

Wow...

So many people can't seem to realize that an opinion...is well...an opinion..Just because you disagree with someone, doesn't make them an idiot. I am hit or miss on the movie personally (never saw the directors cut).
So many people can't seem to realize that an opinion...is well...an opinion..Just because you disagree with someone, doesn't make them an idiot. I am hit or miss on the movie personally (never saw the directors cut).
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5:47PM on 08/29/2013

ok ok

After reading this article I decided to watch the directors cut of DD for the first time....OMG it does nothing for it!! The movie is still fucking TERRIBLE!!! Worst dialogue ever and the acting from Ben Affleck is so fucking terrible its sickening.....that's all I have to report!!
After reading this article I decided to watch the directors cut of DD for the first time....OMG it does nothing for it!! The movie is still fucking TERRIBLE!!! Worst dialogue ever and the acting from Ben Affleck is so fucking terrible its sickening.....that's all I have to report!!
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11:28AM on 08/29/2013

Bad movie.

Daredevil was a shocker. A bad film from tip to toe. I liked 2 things in this movie. Michael Clarke Duncan and DD's costume. Oh, and Jennifer Garner is not hard to look at. But seriously, Ben Affleck was bad. He is just such a mediocre actor who really only excels when he's playing a jerk (Boiler Room). As a director though he is truly talented. To be fair I thought his turn in The Town (excellent movie) was good but IMO he weakened Argo by acting in it. The problem is that I just don't find
Daredevil was a shocker. A bad film from tip to toe. I liked 2 things in this movie. Michael Clarke Duncan and DD's costume. Oh, and Jennifer Garner is not hard to look at. But seriously, Ben Affleck was bad. He is just such a mediocre actor who really only excels when he's playing a jerk (Boiler Room). As a director though he is truly talented. To be fair I thought his turn in The Town (excellent movie) was good but IMO he weakened Argo by acting in it. The problem is that I just don't find his performances sincere. He always looks like he's "acting". Had it been announced he was directing the new Batman I would've been excited. I feel he is a weak choice for the role.
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11:34PM on 08/28/2013
Terrible movie is terrible.
Terrible movie is terrible.
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7:18PM on 08/28/2013
Just bought and watched the Director's Cut for the first time (having recently revisited the theatrical cut on cable tv) and it is outstanding. Goes from a 90 minute adequate/popcorn movie to being better than the first X-men and Spider-Man movies. If only that cut was released! Maybe we would've had a sequel that was as defining as X2 and Spider-man 2.
Just bought and watched the Director's Cut for the first time (having recently revisited the theatrical cut on cable tv) and it is outstanding. Goes from a 90 minute adequate/popcorn movie to being better than the first X-men and Spider-Man movies. If only that cut was released! Maybe we would've had a sequel that was as defining as X2 and Spider-man 2.
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5:49PM on 08/29/2013
better than the first Spiderman and X-men movies??? WTF are you smoking??? Pure idiot ALERT
better than the first Spiderman and X-men movies??? WTF are you smoking??? Pure idiot ALERT
5:50PM on 08/29/2013
better than the first Spiderman and X-men movies??? WTF are you smoking??? Pure idiot ALERT.....omfg....you didn't just say we would have had a sequel that was as defining as X2 and Spiderman2 did you??? Wow, I've sen it all on this site now....TY
better than the first Spiderman and X-men movies??? WTF are you smoking??? Pure idiot ALERT.....omfg....you didn't just say we would have had a sequel that was as defining as X2 and Spiderman2 did you??? Wow, I've sen it all on this site now....TY
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6:50PM on 08/28/2013

Wow do I disagree....

The only thing that worked about this movie was the acting. I thought Affleck was fine as Murdock, and did a nice job portraying a non-super powered hero and the pain he would endure. The action scenes were TERRIBLE. They were monumentally cartoony, and had no basis in reality (the climbing up the pipes at the Church was among the most cringe-worthy moments I've ever seen in a major film release). Instead of hiring an stuntman like a Ray Park to give the masked hero amazing (but still
The only thing that worked about this movie was the acting. I thought Affleck was fine as Murdock, and did a nice job portraying a non-super powered hero and the pain he would endure. The action scenes were TERRIBLE. They were monumentally cartoony, and had no basis in reality (the climbing up the pipes at the Church was among the most cringe-worthy moments I've ever seen in a major film release). Instead of hiring an stuntman like a Ray Park to give the masked hero amazing (but still reality-based) abilities, they chose to use really bad CGI to turn scenes into poor copies of silly Japanese kung fu movies.

The fight/dance between Daredevil and Electra on the playground was equally as bad....they might as well have just left the wires in the scene. The only parts that work is Bullseye killing Electra and Daredevil beating the Kingpin (although that fight should have been longer). Actually the scene in the bar at the beginning was pretty good as well. The problem was that this movie didn't know what it wanted to be.....a serious version of Kick-Ass or a silly comic book hero who could defy the laws of gravity. Going back and forth (and really bad CGI) is what killed this film.
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6:32PM on 08/28/2013

Why Defend CRAP!!!!!!

If something is sh*t just call it sh*t. Its like looking at a turd and saying, "you know beside the color and smell, if you look at the bright yellow pieces of corn its kinda pretty". Lately he has evolved as an actor and is far different from 10 years ago. You have 3 choices, 1 take his only sampling as a superhero and bash the sh*t out of him and be close minded, 2 except the fact that he has evolved as and actor and give him a chance, or 3 just don't watch. Either way anybody on this message
If something is sh*t just call it sh*t. Its like looking at a turd and saying, "you know beside the color and smell, if you look at the bright yellow pieces of corn its kinda pretty". Lately he has evolved as an actor and is far different from 10 years ago. You have 3 choices, 1 take his only sampling as a superhero and bash the sh*t out of him and be close minded, 2 except the fact that he has evolved as and actor and give him a chance, or 3 just don't watch. Either way anybody on this message board will be there opening night like me. But DareDevil Blew Giant Blind Man Ballz, no amount of time or retardation will make that movie a classic. The only good thing that came out of that movie was the late and great Michael Clark Duncun.
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6:22PM on 08/28/2013
I always loved Daredevil (obviously the Director's Cut more so), and felt it got an unfair shake. Affleck was good in my opinion. Jen's Elektra was hit or miss, and Bullseye was hammed up a bit too much, but all in all, a great marvel origin story for a character nobody really knew much about (or cared to). Personally, I'm anxious to see what Ben brings to the Batman table.
I always loved Daredevil (obviously the Director's Cut more so), and felt it got an unfair shake. Affleck was good in my opinion. Jen's Elektra was hit or miss, and Bullseye was hammed up a bit too much, but all in all, a great marvel origin story for a character nobody really knew much about (or cared to). Personally, I'm anxious to see what Ben brings to the Batman table.
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5:50PM on 08/28/2013
These unpopular "opinion" articles are so contrived. How convenient you suddenly think DD is awesome after all this Affleck as Batman talk (And also after it is pointed out that you didn't like it before). What's in store for next weeks article? "Miley Cyrus is a talented artist that is ahead of her time". Oooo you're so controversial!
These unpopular "opinion" articles are so contrived. How convenient you suddenly think DD is awesome after all this Affleck as Batman talk (And also after it is pointed out that you didn't like it before). What's in store for next weeks article? "Miley Cyrus is a talented artist that is ahead of her time". Oooo you're so controversial!
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5:24PM on 08/28/2013

At least its much better then Ghostrider....

Didnt like affleck at that time at all, hated him being in pearl harbour, actually think he was ok as daredevil, he had the chance to play matt murdock and bruce wayne, how cool is that?
Didnt like affleck at that time at all, hated him being in pearl harbour, actually think he was ok as daredevil, he had the chance to play matt murdock and bruce wayne, how cool is that?
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6:12PM on 08/29/2013
Anything is better than GHOST RIDER... except GHOST RIDER 2.
Anything is better than GHOST RIDER... except GHOST RIDER 2.
4:40PM on 08/28/2013

cant even finish reading this article...

had to jump down and comment...
love daredevil. period. not too keen on garner as electra...wouldve rathered bullseye's scar be a tattoo...but, otherwise, considering the budget and the state of superhero films at the time...thought it was great.
wouldve liked to see the costume with a spandex base with the leather being used as ''armor'' at more vulnerable points, but, the realistic nature of the outfit was appreciated by me. really glad they CGd the ''bandana ties'' out of the film though.
had to jump down and comment...
love daredevil. period. not too keen on garner as electra...wouldve rathered bullseye's scar be a tattoo...but, otherwise, considering the budget and the state of superhero films at the time...thought it was great.
wouldve liked to see the costume with a spandex base with the leather being used as ''armor'' at more vulnerable points, but, the realistic nature of the outfit was appreciated by me. really glad they CGd the ''bandana ties'' out of the film though.
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4:30PM on 08/28/2013
The theatrical cut is so-so, but the R Rated Director's Cut is actually a very good movie. The Director's Cut still holds up today.
The theatrical cut is so-so, but the R Rated Director's Cut is actually a very good movie. The Director's Cut still holds up today.
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4:12PM on 08/28/2013
Supremely underrated. Hated for the sake of hating it. The DC version is damn good.
Supremely underrated. Hated for the sake of hating it. The DC version is damn good.
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3:26PM on 08/28/2013

lol

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3:11PM on 08/28/2013

You know, at the time...

Marvel got what it wanted... They had the film edited to make it less serious, which is not surprising. Can you remember a Marvel film with a dark tone back then? No... Because they weren't making films for adults. Fantastic Four, Spider-man, Ghost Rider, X-Men, Hulk... With the exception of Blade, their films were aimed for younger audiences and not for lifelong fans. It really wasn't until the massive success of The Dark Knight that they realized a superhero film could have a serious tone
Marvel got what it wanted... They had the film edited to make it less serious, which is not surprising. Can you remember a Marvel film with a dark tone back then? No... Because they weren't making films for adults. Fantastic Four, Spider-man, Ghost Rider, X-Men, Hulk... With the exception of Blade, their films were aimed for younger audiences and not for lifelong fans. It really wasn't until the massive success of The Dark Knight that they realized a superhero film could have a serious tone and still be fun for kids as well as adults. Now, no, it wasn't a good film... But putting the blame on Affleck is like blaming Einstein for Hiroshima. He did the best he could working from a bad script, poor production design, and a hack job of an edit. I think he'll do a much better job with Batman.
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2:11AM on 08/29/2013
Something is a little off about your logic in regards to Einstein. Also, I think your love affair with Heath Ledger made you forget that Batman Begins was the film that helped Hollywood change it's tone toward comic book movies, not TDK.
Something is a little off about your logic in regards to Einstein. Also, I think your love affair with Heath Ledger made you forget that Batman Begins was the film that helped Hollywood change it's tone toward comic book movies, not TDK.
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1:44PM on 08/28/2013
I've seen the movie and was extremely disappointed by it. Affleck did get a lot of flack but the dialogue was terrible along with the plot. The scene where he and Garner do ballet in the kids' playground was embarrassing (even the choreography was stupid!). My point is that there was a lot more wrong with this movie than Affleck's performance and that gets overlooked. I wish you had spent some more time talking about the good things about this movie instead of just trying to defend the bad
I've seen the movie and was extremely disappointed by it. Affleck did get a lot of flack but the dialogue was terrible along with the plot. The scene where he and Garner do ballet in the kids' playground was embarrassing (even the choreography was stupid!). My point is that there was a lot more wrong with this movie than Affleck's performance and that gets overlooked. I wish you had spent some more time talking about the good things about this movie instead of just trying to defend the bad (which didn't really work for me; I read these articles with an open mind but just wasn't moved to change my mind this time). I wish you said more about the director's cut. I haven't seen it and was wondering if it is that much better of a movie.

There are a lot of logical thinkers these days when it comes to the Batman/ Affleck news these days and they comment right on this site (I read their comments and there are LOTS of them). Paul from this site is one of them. Yes, a lot of people are reacting stupidly and over the top but give us calmer heads credit. I'm surprised (and kind of proud) that there are so many of them/us.
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1:22PM on 08/28/2013

4/10.

It has good performances from Colin Farrell and Michael Clarke Duncan, and a good sountrack. It also has bad performances from Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner, and rushed plot points.
It has good performances from Colin Farrell and Michael Clarke Duncan, and a good sountrack. It also has bad performances from Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner, and rushed plot points.
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12:27PM on 08/28/2013
The director's cut is vastly superior to the original. Personally I think that if they took our that playground scene & staged it elsewhere, took the scar off of Bullseye's head & a few other tweaks, Daredevil would be an awesome comic flick that would have altered Affleck's career. While it's not my moat favorite comic flick ever, I do like it & appreciate it for what it is. Not what I thought it should have been.
The director's cut is vastly superior to the original. Personally I think that if they took our that playground scene & staged it elsewhere, took the scar off of Bullseye's head & a few other tweaks, Daredevil would be an awesome comic flick that would have altered Affleck's career. While it's not my moat favorite comic flick ever, I do like it & appreciate it for what it is. Not what I thought it should have been.
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1:47PM on 08/28/2013
I haven't seen the director's cut. Those don't seem like major problems to need fixed. What did this cut do that was so much better (I'm deciding whether or not to give it a shot)?
I haven't seen the director's cut. Those don't seem like major problems to need fixed. What did this cut do that was so much better (I'm deciding whether or not to give it a shot)?
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12:17PM on 08/28/2013

I enjoyed Daredevil and I'm unsure about where all the bad rep comes from?

Probably gonna get negative marks for this, but I remember when Daredevil was released almost a year after Spider-Man. Preferred Daredevil more than Spider-Man (just the first one not Spider-Man 2) . Both films are easly enjoyable superhero flicks, but there were more things I enjoyed about Daredevil than Spider-Man 1. Starting with the villains, I enjoyed the villains in Daredevil more. I also preferred the look and style of Daredevil than Spider-Man 1. Then Spider-Man 2 came out and there was
Probably gonna get negative marks for this, but I remember when Daredevil was released almost a year after Spider-Man. Preferred Daredevil more than Spider-Man (just the first one not Spider-Man 2) . Both films are easly enjoyable superhero flicks, but there were more things I enjoyed about Daredevil than Spider-Man 1. Starting with the villains, I enjoyed the villains in Daredevil more. I also preferred the look and style of Daredevil than Spider-Man 1. Then Spider-Man 2 came out and there was no contest there. I would revisit both Daredevil and Spider-Man 1 to see how both stand the test of time, but back in 2003 I was feeling it more with Daredevil. Also note, I remember back in 2004 a DVD website gave there picks for the best DVDs of the year. Everyone expected The Return of The King Extended Edition to be #1. ROTK was #2 and the Director's R-rated cut of Daredevil was ranked #1 adding that it not only made the film better than it's theaterical cut, but it was a whole new film.
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12:13PM on 08/28/2013
I agreed with you about 'Fantastic 4' (flawed but fun), and I agree with you here. While not perfect (the Elektra subplot is poorly handled, and the Bullseye fight should have been way better) it's fun, and the director's cut actually has a pretty cool plot.
I agreed with you about 'Fantastic 4' (flawed but fun), and I agree with you here. While not perfect (the Elektra subplot is poorly handled, and the Bullseye fight should have been way better) it's fun, and the director's cut actually has a pretty cool plot.
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11:51AM on 08/28/2013

2 things

1) The good: Ben Affleck is a great pick for Batman (and was a great choice for Daredevil, but...)
2) Daredevil is a poorly directed movie. Affleck didn't rise to the occasion but you can see the potential.
Keep Mark Steven Johnson away... from everything, just to be safe.
1) The good: Ben Affleck is a great pick for Batman (and was a great choice for Daredevil, but...)
2) Daredevil is a poorly directed movie. Affleck didn't rise to the occasion but you can see the potential.
Keep Mark Steven Johnson away... from everything, just to be safe.
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11:54AM on 08/28/2013
... and that trailer alone, buuuuuuugh.
... and that trailer alone, buuuuuuugh.
4:18PM on 08/28/2013
All trailers looked like that in 2003, haha.
All trailers looked like that in 2003, haha.
11:50AM on 08/28/2013

Director's cut is waaaaay better

It's funny to hear the producers defend the cuts they made for the theatrical cut, when it is so obvious they butchered it. One of the best parts of the character is how he uses his gifts not just as Daredevil, but as an attorney. The director's cut gives back a whole subplot involving that, fills plot holes, makes the characters better rounded and gets rid of that ridiculously studio shoe horned love scene. as much as he might have wanted to stay with Electra (and really, who would turn down
It's funny to hear the producers defend the cuts they made for the theatrical cut, when it is so obvious they butchered it. One of the best parts of the character is how he uses his gifts not just as Daredevil, but as an attorney. The director's cut gives back a whole subplot involving that, fills plot holes, makes the characters better rounded and gets rid of that ridiculously studio shoe horned love scene. as much as he might have wanted to stay with Electra (and really, who would turn down a soaking wet Jennifer Garner?) Matt would not do that. Daredevil would not do that. Ignoring a cry for help is not what makes him a hero, sacrifice is. Doing what he did in the theatrical cut is paramount to Quitting on the oath you made to your parents immortal souls, ignoring your father figure's advice, basically spitting in his face over a girl with a face like the north end of a south bound yak, and then quitting again to shack up with a whore you barley know overseas...and we all know real heroes don't do that, right?
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12:17PM on 08/28/2013
Haha, I was a bit shocked by that scene too. I mean, who would turn out sexy Jennifer Garner in the rain, right? But you're Daredevil! You Defend Justice! You Help the Helpless but you're chasing tail instead? That love scene was awesome though.
Haha, I was a bit shocked by that scene too. I mean, who would turn out sexy Jennifer Garner in the rain, right? But you're Daredevil! You Defend Justice! You Help the Helpless but you're chasing tail instead? That love scene was awesome though.
11:46AM on 08/28/2013

Its not a bad comic film at all..

Especially for that era.. The only real problem I had was with The King Pin and the size of Affleck's head. It always bothered me that his head was too big for Daredevil. DD's head in the comic and cartoon was always like a peanut head. Then Ben comes along with this big block head and it just looks weird. The funny thing is that, that block head works perfect for Batman, because in the comics, and especially in the cartoons, Batman and Superman always had these big block heads and enormous
Especially for that era.. The only real problem I had was with The King Pin and the size of Affleck's head. It always bothered me that his head was too big for Daredevil. DD's head in the comic and cartoon was always like a peanut head. Then Ben comes along with this big block head and it just looks weird. The funny thing is that, that block head works perfect for Batman, because in the comics, and especially in the cartoons, Batman and Superman always had these big block heads and enormous square chins. Which is exactly what Ben has going for him, He's also a pretty good actor and is physically shaped like Batman (he just needs to lift some weights). The problem lie's in his inability to frighten someone. For such a big guy, he is one of the most unintimadating leading men. And his voice doesn't help. It's so soft and inviting, you want to hug him. He always comes off as a poser. Batman is suppose to strike fear into criminals. Say what you want about Bale's Deep Gruff voice in the DARK KNIGHT films, I personally loved it. It made him seem tough and almost supernatural. That's just my two cents.
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11:40AM on 08/28/2013
I always looked back thinking Daredevil was okay & didn't understand the criticism.....until I watched it recently. Wow! it isn't good at all ! its so cheesy, not the good kinda cheesy..... more closer to Batman & Robin cheesy (maybe that's too harsh). No actor could have done a good job with this movie though.
I always looked back thinking Daredevil was okay & didn't understand the criticism.....until I watched it recently. Wow! it isn't good at all ! its so cheesy, not the good kinda cheesy..... more closer to Batman & Robin cheesy (maybe that's too harsh). No actor could have done a good job with this movie though.
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11:08AM on 08/28/2013
I've heard the director's cut is so much better. Apparently the studio edited the film by over 30 minutes to make the film less dark. That is always a recipe for disaster.
I've heard the director's cut is so much better. Apparently the studio edited the film by over 30 minutes to make the film less dark. That is always a recipe for disaster.
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10:46AM on 08/28/2013
I always liked it just fine. Thought it was highly underrated. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying its a 10/10, but its talked about as if it is a 1/10 and I always thought maybe 5... complicated math aside. My point is, it's not great, but definitely not as bad as people seem to suggest.
I always liked it just fine. Thought it was highly underrated. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying its a 10/10, but its talked about as if it is a 1/10 and I always thought maybe 5... complicated math aside. My point is, it's not great, but definitely not as bad as people seem to suggest.
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10:37AM on 08/28/2013
Maybe this website should change its name from JoBlo.com to JoBlowsBenAffleck.com
Maybe this website should change its name from JoBlo.com to JoBlowsBenAffleck.com
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2:01PM on 08/28/2013
That actually made me laugh. Nice.
That actually made me laugh. Nice.
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10:28AM on 08/28/2013

NO

I re-watched this film recently, and hated it. Heard the director's cut was better so I went out and bought a used copy for about 2 dollars, realizing not 30 minutes into it that it wasn't worth even a penny of what I spent on it. This film is BAD, and the director's cut is an abomination. (Need I remind anyone of the Bullseye airport "scene"?) That said, I don't think Affleck's performance in Daredevil makes any difference in his ability to play Bruce Wayne/ Batman. Two totally different
I re-watched this film recently, and hated it. Heard the director's cut was better so I went out and bought a used copy for about 2 dollars, realizing not 30 minutes into it that it wasn't worth even a penny of what I spent on it. This film is BAD, and the director's cut is an abomination. (Need I remind anyone of the Bullseye airport "scene"?) That said, I don't think Affleck's performance in Daredevil makes any difference in his ability to play Bruce Wayne/ Batman. Two totally different characters in two totally different movies by different directors.
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10:19AM on 08/28/2013
Haha... why are you guys trying to sell this Ben Affleck as Batman? First an article on Patton giving his "fair shake" on Ben as the Batman, followed by the C'mon Hollywood piece, then a posting of the fan made trailer (released unbelievably quick since the news broke), and now an unpopular opinion on one of Ben's worse movies. I don't know how the rest of the internets reacted to the news, but here it was pretty much 50/50. So why all the pro Affleck articles? You know what I would like to
Haha... why are you guys trying to sell this Ben Affleck as Batman? First an article on Patton giving his "fair shake" on Ben as the Batman, followed by the C'mon Hollywood piece, then a posting of the fan made trailer (released unbelievably quick since the news broke), and now an unpopular opinion on one of Ben's worse movies. I don't know how the rest of the internets reacted to the news, but here it was pretty much 50/50. So why all the pro Affleck articles? You know what I would like to see? I'd like to see an article about how Affleck would make a horrible Batman, just to balance it out some. I think Affleck is a decent actor, but he was just all wrong for Daredevil and is the wrong actor for Batman as well.
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10:47AM on 08/28/2013
This, so this. I would like to see a balance of both sides- this is a movie site after all.
This, so this. I would like to see a balance of both sides- this is a movie site after all.
5:53PM on 08/28/2013
Don't forget about the article of "just one persons opinion" trying to rationalize the casting too. Forgot which joblo writer it was from.
Don't forget about the article of "just one persons opinion" trying to rationalize the casting too. Forgot which joblo writer it was from.
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10:16AM on 08/28/2013
Look, if you're trying to use this movie to defend his acting, you failed. In order to play someone who is blind, Affleck crossed his eyes every time he was without glasses or the cowl. That alone is horrendous acting. Not to mention that there was no difference between him playing Daredevil or Matt Murdock, which means he didn't (and I believe still doesn't) grasp the duality needed to play a character that needs to keep up an alter ego that is totally separate from his hero counterpart.
Look, if you're trying to use this movie to defend his acting, you failed. In order to play someone who is blind, Affleck crossed his eyes every time he was without glasses or the cowl. That alone is horrendous acting. Not to mention that there was no difference between him playing Daredevil or Matt Murdock, which means he didn't (and I believe still doesn't) grasp the duality needed to play a character that needs to keep up an alter ego that is totally separate from his hero counterpart.
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9:49AM on 08/28/2013
It's funny (as pointed out below), but Alex Maidy stated his dislike for Daredevil in a previous article posted four months ago, and now that Ben Affleck is cast as Batman suddenly Daredevil is good? RIIIIGGGGGHHHHTTTT.
It's funny (as pointed out below), but Alex Maidy stated his dislike for Daredevil in a previous article posted four months ago, and now that Ben Affleck is cast as Batman suddenly Daredevil is good? RIIIIGGGGGHHHHTTTT.
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9:30AM on 08/28/2013
Nope. [link]
Nope. [link]
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9:24AM on 08/28/2013
Na. It just sucked. No amount of editing is going to fix that.
Na. It just sucked. No amount of editing is going to fix that.
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9:12AM on 08/28/2013
More damage control for WB. Because the past 10 or so articles telling us how underrated Ben Affleck is didn't exactly make it clear to us.
More damage control for WB. Because the past 10 or so articles telling us how underrated Ben Affleck is didn't exactly make it clear to us.
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9:08AM on 08/28/2013

No

It's not a good movie. Whenever someone says that something is fun or a popcorn movie, it's usually an excuse to like a bad film. The acting is terrible, and borders on a quippy catch phrase type movie. Nothing good came out of Daredevil. Nothing.
It's not a good movie. Whenever someone says that something is fun or a popcorn movie, it's usually an excuse to like a bad film. The acting is terrible, and borders on a quippy catch phrase type movie. Nothing good came out of Daredevil. Nothing.
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8:51AM on 08/28/2013
I've said on here before that this movie cannot be judged until you've seen the director's cut. The theatrical version is pretty silly because the lighthearted parts end up being major set pieces. That quirky play fight in the park between Ben and Jen for instance almost makes me cringe. And when you have a movie as family-cut as this one was Colin Farrell's over-the-top performance can come across as comic relief rather than "this man is mentally unstable and dangerous" which is how it should
I've said on here before that this movie cannot be judged until you've seen the director's cut. The theatrical version is pretty silly because the lighthearted parts end up being major set pieces. That quirky play fight in the park between Ben and Jen for instance almost makes me cringe. And when you have a movie as family-cut as this one was Colin Farrell's over-the-top performance can come across as comic relief rather than "this man is mentally unstable and dangerous" which is how it should feel and does in the darker director's cut. The DC also adds back in an interesting side-story featuring Coolio as a criminal on trial. And the problems with this film, to me, always had to do with the tone of the TC and some of the cheesy dialogue, not Ben Affleck's performance. There is nothing wrong with his performance here, at least nothing I would trash him for, and if we get a Batman that is a cross between Daredevil and his character in Argo, that would be all right.
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8:45AM on 08/28/2013

I wanted to kill the director - and myself - after watching this

It's a tough column, I understand. "The Unpopular Opinion".... but a movie like this made me so angry that - no joke - I had a broken leg and I was sitting an aisle away from my friend when I watched this, and I almost walked out. I didn't because my roommate didn't. He said he wanted to but he felt sorry for my broken leg and stayed. That playground fight scene was when I almost screamed in anger. And some fucktard Marine in the front row goes "yeeeaaaaaah!" when Affleck shrugged his
It's a tough column, I understand. "The Unpopular Opinion".... but a movie like this made me so angry that - no joke - I had a broken leg and I was sitting an aisle away from my friend when I watched this, and I almost walked out. I didn't because my roommate didn't. He said he wanted to but he felt sorry for my broken leg and stayed. That playground fight scene was when I almost screamed in anger. And some fucktard Marine in the front row goes "yeeeaaaaaah!" when Affleck shrugged his shoulders. Kill me now, I'm sorry I even have to think about this abomination again.
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8:47AM on 08/28/2013
I felt that way in Iron Man 3 when Trevor came out of the bathroom...lol
I felt that way in Iron Man 3 when Trevor came out of the bathroom...lol
8:45AM on 08/28/2013
It's not as bad as everyone says, but it's not very good either. Just middle of the road but certainly better than Spiderman 3 and Rise of the Silver Surfer. Haven't seen the Director's Cut yet.
It's not as bad as everyone says, but it's not very good either. Just middle of the road but certainly better than Spiderman 3 and Rise of the Silver Surfer. Haven't seen the Director's Cut yet.
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8:41AM on 08/28/2013
Its better than die hard 5
Its better than die hard 5
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8:50AM on 08/28/2013
I agree whole heartedly.
I agree whole heartedly.
8:23AM on 08/28/2013
I watched the directors cut, which, I have to say was better than the theatrical one.
What also surprised me was that Roger Ebert (RIP) liked the movie.
To be honest, there have been far worst superhero movies, Jonah Hex for example
I watched the directors cut, which, I have to say was better than the theatrical one.
What also surprised me was that Roger Ebert (RIP) liked the movie.
To be honest, there have been far worst superhero movies, Jonah Hex for example
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8:15AM on 08/28/2013
Every time I think about Daredevil, I think it can't possibly be that bad. I remember some good parts. So I watch it, and then I say, "Oh yeah, now I remember." The truth is though is almost good, it's just missing something. Some char maybe.
Every time I think about Daredevil, I think it can't possibly be that bad. I remember some good parts. So I watch it, and then I say, "Oh yeah, now I remember." The truth is though is almost good, it's just missing something. Some char maybe.
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8:13AM on 08/28/2013

I liked Daredevil

But I'm still not sure that makes Affleck a good Batman.
But I'm still not sure that makes Affleck a good Batman.
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8:04AM on 08/28/2013
That's funny, I was just watching it with the Rifftrax. Mike riffs "I would become...Batman. At least until some rich clown in Gotham sued me for naming rights". A little later, an "I'm Batman" joke is made. I've heard the director's cut is a lot better. The film somehow feels truncated, has some distracting fly-by establishing shots, Jon Favreau as relatively unfunny comic relief, a cringe-worthy soundtrack and several instances of ropey CGI (particularly the fight atop the church organs) but
That's funny, I was just watching it with the Rifftrax. Mike riffs "I would become...Batman. At least until some rich clown in Gotham sued me for naming rights". A little later, an "I'm Batman" joke is made. I've heard the director's cut is a lot better. The film somehow feels truncated, has some distracting fly-by establishing shots, Jon Favreau as relatively unfunny comic relief, a cringe-worthy soundtrack and several instances of ropey CGI (particularly the fight atop the church organs) but it's...okay. I did like the shoutouts to the likes of Brian Michael Bendis, Frank Miller (who turns up as the guy killed with the pens), Jack Kirby, Joe Quesada, David Mack and Stan Lee (requisite cameo) but it doesn't seem to come together as a whole. Perhaps it deserves another look in the form of the director's cut.
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8:02AM on 08/28/2013

Flame bait

While I don't hate this movie, I feel that the reasons you could defend it and why aren't even touched in this article and/or are touched upon in a completely different way than they should be. Like almost all of these articles, I feel like it's blatant flame baiting. Oh, and I think Affleck is gonna kill it as Batman.
While I don't hate this movie, I feel that the reasons you could defend it and why aren't even touched in this article and/or are touched upon in a completely different way than they should be. Like almost all of these articles, I feel like it's blatant flame baiting. Oh, and I think Affleck is gonna kill it as Batman.
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7:54AM on 08/28/2013
Daredevil is one of my favorite films of all time and when I was growing up I used to watch the film at least once a week and enjoyed the film everytime (and still do today). It's definitely not as bad or as terrible as people make it out to be and the directors cut of Daredevil proves that.

Affleck I thought made the perfect Matt Murdock/Daredevil and delivered with every scene. The rest of the cast was spot on too. Especially Duncan and Farrell as Kingpin and Bullseye. You could tell that
Daredevil is one of my favorite films of all time and when I was growing up I used to watch the film at least once a week and enjoyed the film everytime (and still do today). It's definitely not as bad or as terrible as people make it out to be and the directors cut of Daredevil proves that.

Affleck I thought made the perfect Matt Murdock/Daredevil and delivered with every scene. The rest of the cast was spot on too. Especially Duncan and Farrell as Kingpin and Bullseye. You could tell that the cast had a fun time with their roles and enjoyed every minute of it.

The only thing I dislike in regards to this film is that we never got a sequel which I was always hoping for. And the fact that we never saw his training while growing up. And it's funny, because I think Affleck still fits the criteria for Daredevil today and you could imagine him being Daredevil again in another film at this point of his life.

All I'm saying is that Daredevil is a good film and doesn't deserve all the negative feedback. And that Affleck did a great job and will be a great Batman against Cavill's Superman.
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11:01AM on 08/28/2013
Now THAT explains your love for Green Lantern :-P Hehehe...
Just kidding, there are lots of BAAAD movies, I love, as well...
Now THAT explains your love for Green Lantern :-P Hehehe...
Just kidding, there are lots of BAAAD movies, I love, as well...
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7:45AM on 08/28/2013

Totally agree

I also have no problem with Daredevil, and thoroughly enjoyed it. Nice to also see Jon Favreau also playing an amusing sidekick in this film before he did the same in the Iron Man films :)
I also have no problem with Daredevil, and thoroughly enjoyed it. Nice to also see Jon Favreau also playing an amusing sidekick in this film before he did the same in the Iron Man films :)
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7:41AM on 08/28/2013
Today's news is brought to you by the letters 'W', 'T' and 'F' and the words 'desperately', 'reassessing', 'Ben', 'Affeck's', 'entire' and 'career'.
Today's news is brought to you by the letters 'W', 'T' and 'F' and the words 'desperately', 'reassessing', 'Ben', 'Affeck's', 'entire' and 'career'.
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7:39AM on 08/28/2013

for once...

i totally agree with the Unpopular Opinion. i really enjoyed watching this film in theaters and several more times when i bought it on DVD. i however was not at all happy with the director's cut of the film. i think Affleck is a solid actor and has also proven himself a brilliant director. when he was cast as Batman, he not only got a multi picture deal, but will also have a hand in helping to create the DC cinematic universe. the man has one two Oscars, one for writing and one for best
i totally agree with the Unpopular Opinion. i really enjoyed watching this film in theaters and several more times when i bought it on DVD. i however was not at all happy with the director's cut of the film. i think Affleck is a solid actor and has also proven himself a brilliant director. when he was cast as Batman, he not only got a multi picture deal, but will also have a hand in helping to create the DC cinematic universe. the man has one two Oscars, one for writing and one for best picture... surely he must know what he is doing. he has directed three films, and all three are wonderful. i am hoping that the casting of him as Batman will lead up to him directing the Justice League. stop the hate.
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2:35AM on 08/29/2013
You know the difference between "won" and "one", right?
You know the difference between "won" and "one", right?
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7:38AM on 08/28/2013

Confused

Good article, but did you just watch the Director's Cut or have a revelation ... you seemed to dislike this film in your April article about D Slade. Is this really worthy of a second viewing?
Good article, but did you just watch the Director's Cut or have a revelation ... you seemed to dislike this film in your April article about D Slade. Is this really worthy of a second viewing?
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7:35AM on 08/28/2013

Actually

I enjoyed the director's cut. That turns DD into a fairly watchable, enjoyable film.
I enjoyed the director's cut. That turns DD into a fairly watchable, enjoyable film.
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7:30AM on 08/28/2013
I actually like Daredevil a lot. It's too bad that the Director's Cut version was not the Theatrical version. Otherwise it might get some good reviews. Was Ben Affleck a bad Daredevil? No. Was he good? No. He was Okay but I like him best after fighting with the thug in the subway when he comes home and audiences see him all beaten up and full of scars. Michael Clark Duncan (RIP) was a good Kingpin but Colin Farrell was very fun to watch as Bullseye. Overall Daredevil isn't a bad film but it's
I actually like Daredevil a lot. It's too bad that the Director's Cut version was not the Theatrical version. Otherwise it might get some good reviews. Was Ben Affleck a bad Daredevil? No. Was he good? No. He was Okay but I like him best after fighting with the thug in the subway when he comes home and audiences see him all beaten up and full of scars. Michael Clark Duncan (RIP) was a good Kingpin but Colin Farrell was very fun to watch as Bullseye. Overall Daredevil isn't a bad film but it's not that good either. Give Daredevil's Director's Cut a chance and you might enjoy it.
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7:18AM on 08/28/2013
will joblo please stop Ben affleck defending articles? Its annoying.Daredevil is crap esp. the third act and no need to say about affleck and garner's acting
will joblo please stop Ben affleck defending articles? Its annoying.Daredevil is crap esp. the third act and no need to say about affleck and garner's acting
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11:44AM on 08/28/2013
"Well, guys. ole Jimmy Bourne finds our opinions on Ben Affleck annoying. You know when JB has had enough of something it's time to pull the plug. Let's start writing articles suited specifically for his tastes so the world will be perfect for him. He speaks about matters of opinion as if they were facts, so his wisdom must be taken as law."

Dummy.
"Well, guys. ole Jimmy Bourne finds our opinions on Ben Affleck annoying. You know when JB has had enough of something it's time to pull the plug. Let's start writing articles suited specifically for his tastes so the world will be perfect for him. He speaks about matters of opinion as if they were facts, so his wisdom must be taken as law."

Dummy.
2:01PM on 08/28/2013
I'm so tired of this type of bullshit. Maybe, just maybe, this was made because it's relevant? Oh, let's see. When the other Affleck articles are getting tons of comments and hits, maybe they're making the Business 101 decision to keep with what's trending (and entirely relevant)? The fanboy anger has indeed reached astronomically pitiful heights on this whole thing. This whole 'accuse Joblo' trend is also just fucking stupid to put it more bluntly.
I'm so tired of this type of bullshit. Maybe, just maybe, this was made because it's relevant? Oh, let's see. When the other Affleck articles are getting tons of comments and hits, maybe they're making the Business 101 decision to keep with what's trending (and entirely relevant)? The fanboy anger has indeed reached astronomically pitiful heights on this whole thing. This whole 'accuse Joblo' trend is also just fucking stupid to put it more bluntly.
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