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The UnPopular Opinion: Grindhouse - Death Proof

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THE UNPOPULAR OPINION is an ongoing column featuring different takes on films that either the writer HATED, but that the majority of film fans LOVED, or that the writer LOVED, but that most others LOATHED. We're hoping this column will promote constructive and geek fueled discussion. Enjoy!

In my experience, general opinion about the Tarantino/Rodriguez experiment known as GRINDHOUSE seems to be that PLANET TERROR is the good flick while DEATH PROOF is the bad flick, comparatively as well as in terms of filmmmaking in and of itself. But, as is the way with an UnPopular Opinion, I happen to think the exact opposite. I find PLANET TERROR to be the boring, pat, mostly uninspired movie and DEATH PROOF to be the interesting, well-made, exciting movie.

So consider this two-part review my own sort of GRINDHOUSE - today is DEATH PROOF, and come back next week for PLANET TERROR!

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As far as audience psychology goes, DEATH PROOF is both the better movie and just a good movie in general as it starts with everyone and everything in motion. Not that all movies must do this (because they obviously don't), but in this particular case the movie starts with a kind of energy that really pulls you in and brings you right along for the ride (pun intended). It's a wonderful way to draw an audience into the story before beginning the slow build of Stuntman Mike's malevolence and methods. There are basically two ways to start a horror flick (which DEATH PROOF is in its own way, despite the bright colors and light and high energy) - either with the measured layering of suspense (a la THE ORPHANAGE or THE OMEN), or with high energy and motion used in such a way that it sucks in the audience's attention before settling back for the slow build (a la the original HALLOWEEN). DEATH PROOF not only does the latter, but does it very well at that.

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"Shit. Two tons of metal, 200 miles an hour, flesh and bone and plain old Newton... they all princess died."

While we're on the note of doing things really well: DEATH PROOF is a movie that just looks great. Like "hot damn this is a pretty movie" great. Which is to be expected after the vibrancy Tarantino previously exhibited in KILL BILL Volumes 1 and 2, but is also still very worth mentioning. The colors pop and the picture composition is engaging, especially for what is meant to be a throwback to the GRINDHOUSE-like pics of old. Honestly, as fun as those original flicks may have been, they weren't the best as far as the technical side of filmmaking goes. But Tarantino manages to shoot DEATH PROOF both as an homage and as something all his own, and have it succeed on both fronts to boot.

I'd also add that the sorts of details Tarantino adds enhance the viewing experience for me over PLANET TERROR, both in terms of references to the "Grindhouse Style" (missing reels, color shifts, plain detail shots, etc...) and in terms of how they almost make the film a character in and of itself. The same way "Lost" was as interesting to watch for the characters/story as it was for the mysteries of the Island itself, so to is DEATH PROOF more interesting than PLANET TERROR to watch because of the details that define it. Some of the more effective details I speak of include (but are most certainly not limited to) watching the jukebox work, the moment when Arlene (Butterfly) puts her foot near Stuntman Mike's crotch and he spreads his legs slightly, and the look Stuntman Mike gives the camera right before he kills his passenger and then runs down Julia and company.

Death Proof #3

"Before you can claim a nigga, you got to claim a nigga. And you can start by giving the mother f***er a hand job on the back of the van on Tuesday."

I think it's fair to say that DEATH PROOF is actually more like two movies in one (I know I'm not the first to say this) - basically the same scenario happens twice, with Stuntman Mike meeting a group of attractive young girls at the beginning of the story and stalking them through to the end. Of course it's that end which makes all the difference, as the two conclusions could not be more removed from one other. That being said, I do think that there's a very distinct reason why 1) Tarantino made the film this way, 2) it works, and 3) it's actually kind of brilliant.

See, the first batch of girls we're introduced to aren't that great insofar as human beings go. They have small moments of character and depth and connection, but for the most they are hot and that's about it. Not that there's anything wrong with that, and indeed many horror movies settle for their characters being nothing more than hot. But what this allows Tarantino to do is actually make the first half of the movie all about Stuntman Mike. It allows Tarantino (and thereby us) to really take the time to know this guy, to learn the games he plays to achieve his desires, and to invest in his insanity. Hence why there are effectively two movies in DEATH PROOF. Yes, perhaps Tarantino could have pulled the two stories together a bit more fluidly and made the effort to shoot the second story as much like a traditional Grindhouse movie as he did the first half. But by having Stuntman Mike go after what is effectively a bunch of bimbos in that first half, we are able to really watch him hunt and desire without distraction. It sets up a connection with him. I know I referenced HALLOWEEN earlier, and I'll do it again - Carpenter does the same thing with the way he shoots Michael Myers throughout the movie, putting us in the car with him and seeing his hands as though they were ours and other such tricks to somewhat invest us in this killer. It was effective then, and so to is it effective here.

Few people can introduce a character better than Tarantino, and DEATH PROOF is no exception. After seeing bits and pieces of Stuntman Mike (and plenty of his car), the close-ups of him eating nachos in the bar works extraordinarily well to tell us volumes about his character. This is especially clear in how greasy and oily the nachos are, and how dismissively he eats them. It demonstrates a sort of attitude which says I dont give a f*** these are messy, I want to eat them so Ill eat them. Hes not a classy killer, nor is he an animalistic one. He's just a callous and calculated motherf***er, something foreshadowed with the nachos that can very clearly be seen later in the way he says to his doomed passenger Only to get the benefit of [my car being death proof], honey, you REALLY need to be sitting in my seat. His grin there, the anger and excitement and loss of control present in his voice... it makes me shudder.

Death Proof #4

"Well damn if you ain't so sweet you make sugar taste just like salt."

The second batch of girls, as I've implied above, are more genuine in their relationship and more engaging in their humanity/energy than both the first batch and most of the characters in PLANET TERROR. We are allowed the time to give a shit about them, to in turn invest in them before Stuntman Mike comes roaring down the road trying to murder them. Not that every piece of popcorn entertainment absolutely needs to give an audience the time to care about its characters, but I say that one which does will always better than one which doesn't.

That being said, the second half of DEATH PROOF does drag a bit. Giving us said time comes with the price of eroding most of the momentum that the first half of the film built, and dropping Stuntman Mike out of the story for such a long time while the girls explore their friendship and repeatedly reference VANISHING POINT is equivalent to a case of cinematic blue balls. You could argue that the shift in the story's momentum actually works just fine, since Tarantino has already spend to much time setting up Stuntman Mike and doesn't need to re-iterate the threat he poses, but that doesn't ring all too true for me. But for all you lovers of GRINDHOUSE's other half, I'll say right now that I don't think PLANET TERROR is any better in this particular respect.

So while both DEATH PROOF and PLANET TERROR may be accused of failing on a very core level with their treatment of their star characters (i.e. Stuntman Mike and Cherry Darling), I'd nonetheless say that DEATH PROOF is a slick flick that works not just as Grindhouse-style throwback but as a good movie in and of itself. Which PLANET TERROR does not.

For those of you curious as to why I have so many problems with Rodriguez' effort, check back in next week for Part 2 of my GRINDHOUSE review!

Death Proof final frame

"Are you sure it's safe?" "It's better than safe. It's death proof."

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3:54PM on 03/15/2012

I think I'm in the minority here.....

I like Grindhouse as a whole. As two separate films, I dont think I can watch them but as an experience ( with trailers and all) it's an excellent double feature. PT is a great throwback to George Romero films of old with with the gory violence of now. DP is a style car anesthetist film with violence and terror thrown in when wanted. I think they did a good job putting these together and I wish there was a Grindhouse 2.
I like Grindhouse as a whole. As two separate films, I dont think I can watch them but as an experience ( with trailers and all) it's an excellent double feature. PT is a great throwback to George Romero films of old with with the gory violence of now. DP is a style car anesthetist film with violence and terror thrown in when wanted. I think they did a good job putting these together and I wish there was a Grindhouse 2.
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12:05AM on 03/15/2012
While I love the whole 'Grindhouse' movie experience and enjoyed the fun Planet Terror brought to film, I thought Death Proof was the better film. At the end of DP my entire movie audience cheered when they girls beat the shit out of stunt man mike, it was such an amazing experience. I think you really decribed what I liked about the film, how Tarantino makes you kind like Mike in the first half of the film and then makes you cheer on the girls in the 2nd half b/c you care about them. I just
While I love the whole 'Grindhouse' movie experience and enjoyed the fun Planet Terror brought to film, I thought Death Proof was the better film. At the end of DP my entire movie audience cheered when they girls beat the shit out of stunt man mike, it was such an amazing experience. I think you really decribed what I liked about the film, how Tarantino makes you kind like Mike in the first half of the film and then makes you cheer on the girls in the 2nd half b/c you care about them. I just love it and watch it everytime I catch it on TV. Great article!
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11:26PM on 03/14/2012
I'm glad I'm not the only one who loved Death Proof. I prefer it way more than PT.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who loved Death Proof. I prefer it way more than PT.
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11:09PM on 03/14/2012
Tarantino's only fuck-up.
Tarantino's only fuck-up.
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11:01PM on 03/14/2012
I thought it kicked ass. I like it the more and more i watch it.
I thought it kicked ass. I like it the more and more i watch it.
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9:46PM on 03/14/2012
Alejandro Stephenberg, in one of the captions, decides to censor "motherfucker" but not censor the n-word.

Interesting.

As for the film itself, I've actually stayed away due to the reviews I've read. (Too, I'm not really a Tarantino fan).

Planet Terror was interesting on a first (and last) viewing, but nothing more, IMO.
Alejandro Stephenberg, in one of the captions, decides to censor "motherfucker" but not censor the n-word.

Interesting.

As for the film itself, I've actually stayed away due to the reviews I've read. (Too, I'm not really a Tarantino fan).

Planet Terror was interesting on a first (and last) viewing, but nothing more, IMO.
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9:31PM on 03/14/2012
Deathproof would have been a lot better had it had one more scene in the middle with Stuntman Mike wreaking havoc on some sexy women. It really did drag in the middle and one more action scene to break it up would have went a long way.
Deathproof would have been a lot better had it had one more scene in the middle with Stuntman Mike wreaking havoc on some sexy women. It really did drag in the middle and one more action scene to break it up would have went a long way.
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8:47PM on 03/14/2012
While I do have issues with PT, DP is worse. The ending is weak, in so much as how quickly and easily they can bring Stuntman Mike down. It really should've been a harder task. The first set of girls don't add anything, and overall, the film is "slick" as you put it. Too slick in my opinion- it doesn't feel like a proper "Grindhouse" film, which might make it a better overall film, but considering the point of this exercise, it misses by a mile. Still a mostly good, if disappointing film,
While I do have issues with PT, DP is worse. The ending is weak, in so much as how quickly and easily they can bring Stuntman Mike down. It really should've been a harder task. The first set of girls don't add anything, and overall, the film is "slick" as you put it. Too slick in my opinion- it doesn't feel like a proper "Grindhouse" film, which might make it a better overall film, but considering the point of this exercise, it misses by a mile. Still a mostly good, if disappointing film, that's too draggy in the beginning.
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7:38PM on 03/14/2012
I have to agree with you, I think Death Proof was the good movie and Planet Terror was a complete shit film. I don't think Death Proof was a great movie though and compared to most of Tarantino's work it's pretty bad. I guess shit from Quentin is good, and shit from Rodriguez is pretty awful... that shouldn't be too surprising though.
I have to agree with you, I think Death Proof was the good movie and Planet Terror was a complete shit film. I don't think Death Proof was a great movie though and compared to most of Tarantino's work it's pretty bad. I guess shit from Quentin is good, and shit from Rodriguez is pretty awful... that shouldn't be too surprising though.
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7:35PM on 03/14/2012
Its been awhile since I saw this but from what I remember the movie suffered from too much dialog that just didn't work like it did in Tarantino's other work. I love the dialog in all of Tarantino's movies but Death Proof's dialog was not interesting at all.
Its been awhile since I saw this but from what I remember the movie suffered from too much dialog that just didn't work like it did in Tarantino's other work. I love the dialog in all of Tarantino's movies but Death Proof's dialog was not interesting at all.
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6:57PM on 03/14/2012
The experience of seeing these two movies in the theater was worth it. It was a great time.
The experience of seeing these two movies in the theater was worth it. It was a great time.
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5:19PM on 03/14/2012
I love it too. That's why my cat's name is Abernathy.
I love it too. That's why my cat's name is Abernathy.
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4:48PM on 03/14/2012
I agree on certain levels. Death Proof is that film that film that's hard to swallow, but one that people either love or hate. It's excessively talky with that Tarantino-style of flair for dialogue. There were several points of contention for me on this. First, there was no expansion on Stuntman Mike as a killer. In fact, he barely is one. Sure, he kills McGowan's character early on, and even goes after the first group of girls, but I would have preferred a more slasher style of film. I also
I agree on certain levels. Death Proof is that film that film that's hard to swallow, but one that people either love or hate. It's excessively talky with that Tarantino-style of flair for dialogue. There were several points of contention for me on this. First, there was no expansion on Stuntman Mike as a killer. In fact, he barely is one. Sure, he kills McGowan's character early on, and even goes after the first group of girls, but I would have preferred a more slasher style of film. I also dislike that he is so easily dispatched. We barely see him do away with the first group of girls before the second that he more harasses than actually threatens go after him and kick his ass. Stuntman Mike is a cool guy, but he never really feels like much of a threat. You compare this to most slasher films, in which the slasher generally feels somewhat supernatural, even if they aren't. Look at Scream. Every killer is human, but they are frightening and dangerous. As far as serial killers go, Mike comes off as a weak sissy.

That said, I like the film for it's Tarantino touches. The dialogue is entertaining, the characters feel natural and are likable, and the action, when there is action, is great. I still like Planet Terror better, as it's the kind of action-horror film that's more satisfyingly entertaining (I guess you'd call it easier to digest), but to varying degrees, I consider Death Proof the better film of the two.
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4:13PM on 03/14/2012

It was a stupid movie

Just because Tarantino thinks grind house is cool doesn't mean that it is. The douche bag rarely makes a decent flick anymore. Inglorious Bastards being the recent exception.
Just because Tarantino thinks grind house is cool doesn't mean that it is. The douche bag rarely makes a decent flick anymore. Inglorious Bastards being the recent exception.
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1:28PM on 03/14/2012
My problem was that the dialog was just too similar to Tarantino's earlier films. It was as if the writing was left over conversations from the Dogs or John Travolta and Sam Jackson. To be honest it does seem like he's just filling in stuff he's heard from round table discussions with Roger Avery and others. Also the scene missing in the grindhouse cut was rather pointless and weak compared to planet terror's.
My problem was that the dialog was just too similar to Tarantino's earlier films. It was as if the writing was left over conversations from the Dogs or John Travolta and Sam Jackson. To be honest it does seem like he's just filling in stuff he's heard from round table discussions with Roger Avery and others. Also the scene missing in the grindhouse cut was rather pointless and weak compared to planet terror's.
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12:38PM on 03/14/2012

Your Just a Dumbass!!

Deathproof was awful, the dialogue was so indulgent and pointless, and that is all there was, stupid dialogue from dumb bitches, who gives a shite.
Deathproof was awful, the dialogue was so indulgent and pointless, and that is all there was, stupid dialogue from dumb bitches, who gives a shite.
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12:17PM on 03/14/2012
This was QT's one shot w/ the studio to make something completely crazy and he chose to make something sorta safe and just so so. I mean even seeing the movies that have come from the trailers...hobo w/ a shotgun and machete, i just think there could have been something a lot cooler and funner made
This was QT's one shot w/ the studio to make something completely crazy and he chose to make something sorta safe and just so so. I mean even seeing the movies that have come from the trailers...hobo w/ a shotgun and machete, i just think there could have been something a lot cooler and funner made
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12:02PM on 03/14/2012
Put another way...if you watched the movie and you were rooting for Stuntman Mike, then you are the type of asshole who QT thinks should get his neck snapped under some Ugg Boots.
Put another way...if you watched the movie and you were rooting for Stuntman Mike, then you are the type of asshole who QT thinks should get his neck snapped under some Ugg Boots.
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11:56AM on 03/14/2012

Agreed.

I absolutely agree with everything you said here. When I went to see Grindhouse, I sort of enjoyed Planet Terror, and then was like, I don't know if I can sit through a whole other movie! But then Death Proof came along and was such an exhilarating ride. Every single person in my theater stood up and cheered at the end when the girls got their revenge on Stuntman Mike. To this day I don't understand the hate for DP, I've always considered it the clearly superior movie of the two.
I absolutely agree with everything you said here. When I went to see Grindhouse, I sort of enjoyed Planet Terror, and then was like, I don't know if I can sit through a whole other movie! But then Death Proof came along and was such an exhilarating ride. Every single person in my theater stood up and cheered at the end when the girls got their revenge on Stuntman Mike. To this day I don't understand the hate for DP, I've always considered it the clearly superior movie of the two.
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11:53AM on 03/14/2012
@TheArrow Sorry buddy, but you missed the point of the flick. Its an ode to feminism. Stuntman Mike is a misogynistic sexual degenerate who preys on women because he thinks are weak & pathetic. There's too many assholes in this world who think and act EXACTLY like him.

He has an easy time with the first crew of girls because well...they are pathetic. Immature, selfish, jealous, drifting from bar to party, reliant on douchebags for rides, drinks, weed, while flouting seatbelt laws.

Then
@TheArrow Sorry buddy, but you missed the point of the flick. Its an ode to feminism. Stuntman Mike is a misogynistic sexual degenerate who preys on women because he thinks are weak & pathetic. There's too many assholes in this world who think and act EXACTLY like him.

He has an easy time with the first crew of girls because well...they are pathetic. Immature, selfish, jealous, drifting from bar to party, reliant on douchebags for rides, drinks, weed, while flouting seatbelt laws.

Then he sets his eyes on the second crew of girls. They're all independent, smart, with careers, passions, concerned for each other's well-being, and standards for who they let get close to them. They chew his ass up like bubblegum and he knows it.

QT couldn't just make a movie about some asshole killing women. He had to expose him as the pile of shit he is, then render vengeance upon his ass on behalf of all his victims. Do you similarly think the 'Jew Hunter' should have been allowed to go out 'all badass' and NOT screaming like a sissy under Aldo's blade?
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1:12PM on 03/14/2012
What do you mean concerned for each others well beings?
They left the cheerleader with a horny possible rapist didn't they?
What do you mean concerned for each others well beings?
They left the cheerleader with a horny possible rapist didn't they?
3:02PM on 03/14/2012
Ah see, but why do they leave her behind? Because she fell asleep in a chair on said creepy redneck's property. Tough love for the noobie in their midst. And clearly after what they did to his Challenger they probably had to go break his neck too lol.
Ah see, but why do they leave her behind? Because she fell asleep in a chair on said creepy redneck's property. Tough love for the noobie in their midst. And clearly after what they did to his Challenger they probably had to go break his neck too lol.
9:15PM on 03/14/2012
Yeah he missed the point like most people did with this movie... that is the perfect explanation. Very well done.
Yeah he missed the point like most people did with this movie... that is the perfect explanation. Very well done.
11:47AM on 03/14/2012
I absolutely love everything Tarantino's done and DP is awful. Good opening, good kill w/ the car. And then a hole lot of snoozin' for me. That diner scene has MULTIPLE annoying stories strung together and told by that blonde who we'll never see in anything again. Not one of them was worth telling. It felt like an outtake. And then we're treated to a car going about 35 mph w/ her strapped to the hood. Ooooh the muscle car noise makes me feel like she's in super peril. And then it ends
I absolutely love everything Tarantino's done and DP is awful. Good opening, good kill w/ the car. And then a hole lot of snoozin' for me. That diner scene has MULTIPLE annoying stories strung together and told by that blonde who we'll never see in anything again. Not one of them was worth telling. It felt like an outtake. And then we're treated to a car going about 35 mph w/ her strapped to the hood. Ooooh the muscle car noise makes me feel like she's in super peril. And then it ends w/ Kurt getting beat up, which I thought looked funny.
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11:41AM on 03/14/2012

First part is COMPLETELY pointless

Although I don't actually hate Death Proof, I can say that I enjoyed it a lot less than Planet Terror.

It has its moments like the car crash in the first part and the car chase in the second, but apart from that, it didn't do much for me. What really bugged me is the fact that the first and second parts, are not connected at all. In fact, they seem like two totally different movies! Each part has its own feeling and it even seems like they are happening in two different time periods: to me
Although I don't actually hate Death Proof, I can say that I enjoyed it a lot less than Planet Terror.

It has its moments like the car crash in the first part and the car chase in the second, but apart from that, it didn't do much for me. What really bugged me is the fact that the first and second parts, are not connected at all. In fact, they seem like two totally different movies! Each part has its own feeling and it even seems like they are happening in two different time periods: to me it seemed like the first part took place in the late 70s and the second on present day. But by far my biggest problem is the fact that the two parts aren't connected in terms of story and plot. It makes the first part that is 95% vapid dialog, seem COMPLETELY pointless! QT could have said that Rosario Dawson or another of the stars of the second part was Jungle Julia's sister or something, BAM, problem solved!

On a different note, Planet Terror will always hold a special place in my heart, because I got to watch it in a completely empty movie theater! I was the only member of the audience!
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11:32AM on 03/14/2012

@Arrow...

To be honest that's the reason I loved the movie so much. The hunted becomes the hunter. Finally the bad-ass villain can get his ass handed to him by people he should never have fucked with.
To be honest that's the reason I loved the movie so much. The hunted becomes the hunter. Finally the bad-ass villain can get his ass handed to him by people he should never have fucked with.
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12:28PM on 03/14/2012
What, like a Yosemite Sam & Bugs Bunny cartoon, complete with Russel doing a spit-take when he sees them coming back after him and every thing. And didn't we see that story the first time when it was called "Kill Bill"?
What, like a Yosemite Sam & Bugs Bunny cartoon, complete with Russel doing a spit-take when he sees them coming back after him and every thing. And didn't we see that story the first time when it was called "Kill Bill"?
9:11PM on 03/14/2012
Yeah except Bill is actually a threat to The Bride... Stuntman Mike is the equivalent of your everyday rapist, a weak person looking to prey on an even weaker person to make themselves feel more powerful... he fucked with the wrong women and his true colors came out. This is a great moment as this is what every rapist/murder or whatever deserves when they prey on people like that.
Yeah except Bill is actually a threat to The Bride... Stuntman Mike is the equivalent of your everyday rapist, a weak person looking to prey on an even weaker person to make themselves feel more powerful... he fucked with the wrong women and his true colors came out. This is a great moment as this is what every rapist/murder or whatever deserves when they prey on people like that.
11:27AM on 03/14/2012

i loved gh

the whole idea the shitty movies the fake trailers the restaruant ad the poor quality the missing reels loved it the only beef was as pied piper said lack of actual t&a it would have felt like legit 70s/80s horror flicks with some tits
the whole idea the shitty movies the fake trailers the restaruant ad the poor quality the missing reels loved it the only beef was as pied piper said lack of actual t&a it would have felt like legit 70s/80s horror flicks with some tits
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10:56AM on 03/14/2012
To me Deathproof is the inferior of the two. The major flaw of the film is that half of the film is spent on disposable characters (Jungle Julia and co). They took what should have been 20 mins at most and stretched it into half the flick. Another problem was that Deathproof was played second which seemed like a mistake as Planet Terror is the more action centric of the two. I felt that on the heels of PT, DP seemed slow and boring in parts they should've put DP first. My other main problem
To me Deathproof is the inferior of the two. The major flaw of the film is that half of the film is spent on disposable characters (Jungle Julia and co). They took what should have been 20 mins at most and stretched it into half the flick. Another problem was that Deathproof was played second which seemed like a mistake as Planet Terror is the more action centric of the two. I felt that on the heels of PT, DP seemed slow and boring in parts they should've put DP first. My other main problem with the entire Grindhouse thing was the cop out of the "Scene Missing" cards. If McGowan didn't want to show her tits then get another actress because she surely isn't talented enough to not be replaced. The lack of T&A took a lot away from the feeling of a Grindhouse feature.
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10:52AM on 03/14/2012
Death Proof shouldve been all about Russell killing dames with his ride, NOT dames killing me via NAG, NAG, NAG, BLA, BLA, BLA, CLOSE UP ON FEET, YAWN! Hate Death Proof! The day I see Kurt Snake Plissken- Sergeant Todd Russell reduced to sniveling sissy level by a group of poseur Spicegirls is the day I say F*CK THAT!
Death Proof shouldve been all about Russell killing dames with his ride, NOT dames killing me via NAG, NAG, NAG, BLA, BLA, BLA, CLOSE UP ON FEET, YAWN! Hate Death Proof! The day I see Kurt Snake Plissken- Sergeant Todd Russell reduced to sniveling sissy level by a group of poseur Spicegirls is the day I say F*CK THAT!
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11:31AM on 03/14/2012
To be honest that's the reason I loved the movie so much. The hunted becomes the hunter. Finally the bad-ass villain can get his ass handed to him by people he should never have fucked with.
To be honest that's the reason I loved the movie so much. The hunted becomes the hunter. Finally the bad-ass villain can get his ass handed to him by people he should never have fucked with.
3:50PM on 03/14/2012
Anyone who goes out and murders women is a fucking pussy. I thought that punchline in Death Proof was funny as hell, I loved it.
Anyone who goes out and murders women is a fucking pussy. I thought that punchline in Death Proof was funny as hell, I loved it.
9:08PM on 03/14/2012
I think you and everyone missed the point of Death Proof, the fact is Russell's character isn't badass at all, he preys on women because that's all he can do and when they come back at him all he can do whine and beg for his life because he is a little bitch. It was great to see a piece of shit murderer who kills because he is insecure about himself and is very weak get whats coming to him. Great ending to a much better film... plus Planet Terror just sucked... period.
I think you and everyone missed the point of Death Proof, the fact is Russell's character isn't badass at all, he preys on women because that's all he can do and when they come back at him all he can do whine and beg for his life because he is a little bitch. It was great to see a piece of shit murderer who kills because he is insecure about himself and is very weak get whats coming to him. Great ending to a much better film... plus Planet Terror just sucked... period.
10:37AM on 03/14/2012
Death Proof is honestly one of the most underrated films of the last decade. Each time I watch it, it honestly gets better and better. Plus, the soundtrack is amazing. Tarantino can do no wrong.
Death Proof is honestly one of the most underrated films of the last decade. Each time I watch it, it honestly gets better and better. Plus, the soundtrack is amazing. Tarantino can do no wrong.
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2:00PM on 03/14/2012
Do no wrong??? You have seen Kill Bill Vol. 2 and Jackie Brown right??? Those movies were BAD, just like Deathproof
Do no wrong??? You have seen Kill Bill Vol. 2 and Jackie Brown right??? Those movies were BAD, just like Deathproof
8:34PM on 03/14/2012
@ Halflife- "Kill Bill Vol. 2" is a far superior film than "Vol. 1" & "Jackie Brown" is a brilliant, underrated, gem. His second best in fact. DP still doesn't work though.
@ Halflife- "Kill Bill Vol. 2" is a far superior film than "Vol. 1" & "Jackie Brown" is a brilliant, underrated, gem. His second best in fact. DP still doesn't work though.
9:18PM on 03/14/2012
Agreed, Death Proof is good, his worse film but that's not too bad from him. I love all of his movies. He can do no wrong... so far at least.
Agreed, Death Proof is good, his worse film but that's not too bad from him. I love all of his movies. He can do no wrong... so far at least.
10:35AM on 03/14/2012
Death Proof is nearly unwatchable. It's the movie that proved that Tarantino dialogue is overexcessive with a lot of it being completely pointless. Eli Roth makes it even more annoying. And the very end when Russell is getting punched by one girl, then turns around to get punched by another girl, then turns around to get punched by another girl, and so on and so on is awful. It was like a cartoon, except not funny with the tongue in cheek missing its mark.
Death Proof is nearly unwatchable. It's the movie that proved that Tarantino dialogue is overexcessive with a lot of it being completely pointless. Eli Roth makes it even more annoying. And the very end when Russell is getting punched by one girl, then turns around to get punched by another girl, then turns around to get punched by another girl, and so on and so on is awful. It was like a cartoon, except not funny with the tongue in cheek missing its mark.
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10:29AM on 03/14/2012
I liked Death Proof more too, and these are some good points. But don't use that "the movie is like a character, too!" thing, because that never makes any sense. Locations can SOMETIMES SEEM like characters, but the style of story telling doesn't join the cast just because it's nuanced.
I liked Death Proof more too, and these are some good points. But don't use that "the movie is like a character, too!" thing, because that never makes any sense. Locations can SOMETIMES SEEM like characters, but the style of story telling doesn't join the cast just because it's nuanced.
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9:41AM on 03/14/2012

Not to be contrary, because I agree with the premise, but...

I thought Death Proof was always considered to be the better of the two. When it came out, I remember Rodriguez's film being compared very unfavorably to Tarantino's. So what I'm saying is, this opinion is not that unpopular. Could've sworn you were gonna say Death Proof was actually the INFERIOR movie.
I thought Death Proof was always considered to be the better of the two. When it came out, I remember Rodriguez's film being compared very unfavorably to Tarantino's. So what I'm saying is, this opinion is not that unpopular. Could've sworn you were gonna say Death Proof was actually the INFERIOR movie.
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8:32PM on 03/14/2012
In my circles at least (mind you, I work in a movie store and am active on a few film sites) DP is always looked down upon as being the worst one. Just letting you know.
In my circles at least (mind you, I work in a movie store and am active on a few film sites) DP is always looked down upon as being the worst one. Just letting you know.
9:37AM on 03/14/2012

Loved it.

The movies are meant to go together. Planet Terror has the great opening scene, Death Proof has the great ending. One brings the over-the-top outrageousness and splatstick humor, the other brings the dialog, music, and the greatest car chase ever filmed. If you are watching them separately you aren't getting the full experience.
The movies are meant to go together. Planet Terror has the great opening scene, Death Proof has the great ending. One brings the over-the-top outrageousness and splatstick humor, the other brings the dialog, music, and the greatest car chase ever filmed. If you are watching them separately you aren't getting the full experience.
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2:01PM on 03/14/2012
The ending was fucking retarded....It ended like a power rangers episode
The ending was fucking retarded....It ended like a power rangers episode
9:36AM on 03/14/2012
I never realised that Death Proof was the more unpopular of the Grindhouse duo. Grindhouse was never released in cinemas in the UK in its original form but I went out of my way and found a special screening of the original cut. A brilliant cinema experience.
The way I see it, Death Proof I think suffered slightly from being shoehorned into the edited Grindhouse version, and really excels in its lengthier DVD release version, whereas Planet Terror works better in the chopped-down version as
I never realised that Death Proof was the more unpopular of the Grindhouse duo. Grindhouse was never released in cinemas in the UK in its original form but I went out of my way and found a special screening of the original cut. A brilliant cinema experience.
The way I see it, Death Proof I think suffered slightly from being shoehorned into the edited Grindhouse version, and really excels in its lengthier DVD release version, whereas Planet Terror works better in the chopped-down version as it's fun but has less substance.
In many ways that suggests maybe Rodriguez made the better grindhouse film, but Tarantino made the standalone better movie. That's how I see it.
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9:35AM on 03/14/2012

Sort of love/hate Death Proof

My opinion of Death Proof goes back and forth. Hate the extended version, but love it when its part of the entire Grindhouse experience. And the chase scene is top-notch. As a standalone, for some reason, I just don't like it.
My opinion of Death Proof goes back and forth. Hate the extended version, but love it when its part of the entire Grindhouse experience. And the chase scene is top-notch. As a standalone, for some reason, I just don't like it.
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9:22AM on 03/14/2012
Death Proof is crap, should have been called "Vapid Bitches talking for 45 minutes, with stunt driving". Walked out when I seen it in the theater.I dislike the movie so much, that I question the taste of people who actually like Tatentinos worst film.
Death Proof is crap, should have been called "Vapid Bitches talking for 45 minutes, with stunt driving". Walked out when I seen it in the theater.I dislike the movie so much, that I question the taste of people who actually like Tatentinos worst film.
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10:37AM on 03/14/2012
People like it simply because it is Tarantino, which is just dumb.
People like it simply because it is Tarantino, which is just dumb.
8:56AM on 03/14/2012
The first time I saw Grindhouse I definitely enjoyed Planet Terror a lot more, however every time I've re-watched it I enjoyed PT less and less, and Death Proof a whole lot more, to the point where I'll often just watch DP and skip PT.
The first time I saw Grindhouse I definitely enjoyed Planet Terror a lot more, however every time I've re-watched it I enjoyed PT less and less, and Death Proof a whole lot more, to the point where I'll often just watch DP and skip PT.
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8:34AM on 03/14/2012
I don't know if I had to say which was better I'd say the second half of Death Proof followed by Planet Terror sans end.
Strange enough DP was supposed to go first then PT given by the remembrance of Jungle Julia on the radio. Could the slow burn of DP followed by the insanity of PT worked instead of its current form? It depends. First time I saw DP I almost zonked out because the 1st group seemed, blah, and when Mike snaps does the movie kick into gear but because that first act is so dull
I don't know if I had to say which was better I'd say the second half of Death Proof followed by Planet Terror sans end.
Strange enough DP was supposed to go first then PT given by the remembrance of Jungle Julia on the radio. Could the slow burn of DP followed by the insanity of PT worked instead of its current form? It depends. First time I saw DP I almost zonked out because the 1st group seemed, blah, and when Mike snaps does the movie kick into gear but because that first act is so dull you might tune out just because and it's unfortunate too because I like the concept.
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8:16AM on 03/14/2012

I must disagree.

DP had three things going for it: Russell was fantastic; the car stuff was really well done and exciting; and Zoe Bell was a revelation (where did she go?). That's about 30% of the film. The rest was terrible actresses trying their best to deliver Tarantino dialogue and failing. The dialogue itself felt like it came from a hack writer trying to mimic Tarantino's style, and for all the verve and panache QT displayed in filming the cars sequences, he did a really weak and boring job of filming
DP had three things going for it: Russell was fantastic; the car stuff was really well done and exciting; and Zoe Bell was a revelation (where did she go?). That's about 30% of the film. The rest was terrible actresses trying their best to deliver Tarantino dialogue and failing. The dialogue itself felt like it came from a hack writer trying to mimic Tarantino's style, and for all the verve and panache QT displayed in filming the cars sequences, he did a really weak and boring job of filming these crap actresses saying his crap dialogue. I've been a huge QT fan since day one, and I have loved every film he has made... except this one. Planet Terror, while like most Rodriguez projects felt underwhelming, at least really felt like a RR project (and it had Biehn to boot!)
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7:23AM on 03/14/2012

I concur!

Death Proof was great, in fact, one of Tarantino's best, and Planet Terrro was -meh-. I never understood the praise for PT and the disdain for DP...
Death Proof was great, in fact, one of Tarantino's best, and Planet Terrro was -meh-. I never understood the praise for PT and the disdain for DP...
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7:06AM on 03/14/2012

Far superior to Planet Terror

I've always enjoyed Death Proof far more than Planet Terror for several reasons.

I love the "Reservoir Dogs" scene featuring the ladies because they're such a cool bunch of chicks and a lot of fun to watch. Kurt Russell fucking OWNED in this movie! Finally the film was a return to classic car chases the way they were meant to be done.

Oh yes and Rosario Dawson is in it. *drool*
I've always enjoyed Death Proof far more than Planet Terror for several reasons.

I love the "Reservoir Dogs" scene featuring the ladies because they're such a cool bunch of chicks and a lot of fun to watch. Kurt Russell fucking OWNED in this movie! Finally the film was a return to classic car chases the way they were meant to be done.

Oh yes and Rosario Dawson is in it. *drool*
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6:57AM on 03/14/2012
Meh, I prefer Planet Terror because its a compliment to John Carpenter's work. Death Proof is Tarantino's worst film to date.
Meh, I prefer Planet Terror because its a compliment to John Carpenter's work. Death Proof is Tarantino's worst film to date.
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4:18AM on 03/14/2012
I think a lot of people have a problem with the "Reservoir Dogs" scene, which has the ladies just sit and talk for a good ten or so minutes, maybe even more.

Yet Death Proof is the more 'grindhouse' flick of the two, in terms of filmmaking, style and presentation.
I think a lot of people have a problem with the "Reservoir Dogs" scene, which has the ladies just sit and talk for a good ten or so minutes, maybe even more.

Yet Death Proof is the more 'grindhouse' flick of the two, in terms of filmmaking, style and presentation.
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9:37AM on 03/14/2012
The female dialog sounds like something a 14 year old boy would think women talk about. It was fresh and non-boring in RD, but here it made me so board I left my seat and didn't come back.
The female dialog sounds like something a 14 year old boy would think women talk about. It was fresh and non-boring in RD, but here it made me so board I left my seat and didn't come back.
2:53AM on 03/14/2012
yea I enjoyed it better than Planet Terror too, though Rose Mcgowan with a gun for a leg is pretty epic. I did think how it ended was not the best though. I suppose stunt man mike deserved what he got, but he seemed too much like a little baby toward the end of the movie (crying and stuff). He was supposed to be this BA killer guy.
yea I enjoyed it better than Planet Terror too, though Rose Mcgowan with a gun for a leg is pretty epic. I did think how it ended was not the best though. I suppose stunt man mike deserved what he got, but he seemed too much like a little baby toward the end of the movie (crying and stuff). He was supposed to be this BA killer guy.
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2:50AM on 03/14/2012

When I first saw Grindhouse, I thought it was boring until the beautiful chase scene.

Now I absolutely love it. It's completely flip flopped, now I can't stand Planet Terror.
Now I absolutely love it. It's completely flip flopped, now I can't stand Planet Terror.
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2:39AM on 03/14/2012

Great movie!

Stands proudly among Tarantino's best and the dude has a lot of best.
Stands proudly among Tarantino's best and the dude has a lot of best.
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1:08AM on 03/14/2012
Completely agree with this article. Planet Terror was a fun splatter flick, but I found Death Proof to be by far the best film. Plus I thought Death Proof did a great job at paying homage to Roger Corman exploitation films.
Completely agree with this article. Planet Terror was a fun splatter flick, but I found Death Proof to be by far the best film. Plus I thought Death Proof did a great job at paying homage to Roger Corman exploitation films.
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1:03AM on 03/14/2012
I liked it overall but my problems with Death Proof were as follows:
1) Egregious overacting on the part of Thoms (Kim) and Poitier (Jungle Julia).
2) The setups take a little too long to get where they're going.
3) Disappointing ending. Stuntman Mike could have been one of the classic great movie villains, but they robbed us of that when he turned into a blubbering, apologetic mess. It should not have ended the way it did, he should have figured out a way to turn the tables on the girls
I liked it overall but my problems with Death Proof were as follows:
1) Egregious overacting on the part of Thoms (Kim) and Poitier (Jungle Julia).
2) The setups take a little too long to get where they're going.
3) Disappointing ending. Stuntman Mike could have been one of the classic great movie villains, but they robbed us of that when he turned into a blubbering, apologetic mess. It should not have ended the way it did, he should have figured out a way to turn the tables on the girls and get away at the end, still defeated but with resolve to return. Least he could have done was kill Kim, cause damn that chick was annoying.
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1:02AM on 03/14/2012
That's what I thought when I left the theater. Death Proof was superior. Only later did I hear how Planet Terror was favored. I will argue Planet Terror is maybe more "fun" in a throwaway sense. "Death Proof" got under my skin the first time. I think the big criticism was people wanted to see Kurt Russell just wreck havoc on these gals. By now I've learned Tarantino loves to toy with preconceived notions (think Marsellus Wallace getting gang-raped, Bill turning out to be a nice guy, a Nazi
That's what I thought when I left the theater. Death Proof was superior. Only later did I hear how Planet Terror was favored. I will argue Planet Terror is maybe more "fun" in a throwaway sense. "Death Proof" got under my skin the first time. I think the big criticism was people wanted to see Kurt Russell just wreck havoc on these gals. By now I've learned Tarantino loves to toy with preconceived notions (think Marsellus Wallace getting gang-raped, Bill turning out to be a nice guy, a Nazi ringleader being given a full pardon). And I love Quentin's dialogue, even if it does slow the momentum down. And hell, sometimes I had to remind myself this movie wasn't from the 1970s, with all those old cars. It's still arguably his weakest film, but that in no way means it's a BAD movie.
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1:24AM on 03/14/2012
Amen! A bad Tarantino movie doesn't mean a bad movie, its just not as good as his other amazing flicks.
Amen! A bad Tarantino movie doesn't mean a bad movie, its just not as good as his other amazing flicks.
12:55AM on 03/14/2012
Grindhouse as a tiring and dull movie with worthless characters and the most drawn out dialogue I can remember.. and I love Tarantino dialogue...
Grindhouse as a tiring and dull movie with worthless characters and the most drawn out dialogue I can remember.. and I love Tarantino dialogue...
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12:43AM on 03/14/2012

Yes!

I agree 100%. Death Proof was FAR better than Planet Terror IMO.
I agree 100%. Death Proof was FAR better than Planet Terror IMO.
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12:36AM on 03/14/2012
i could not agree with you more. as much as i liked planet terror, death proof was clearly the superior of the 2. looking forward to next week
i could not agree with you more. as much as i liked planet terror, death proof was clearly the superior of the 2. looking forward to next week
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