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The UNpopular Opinion: Inglourious Basterds

06.28.2010

Written by: Aaron the H

THE UNPOPULAR OPINION is an ongoing column featuring different takes on films that either the writer HATED, but that the majority of film fans LOVED, or that the writer LOVED, but that most others LOATHED. We're hoping this column will promote constructive and geek fueled discussion. Enjoy!

"You know somethin', Utivich? I think this just might be my masterpiece."         - Lt. Rayne

Before I start hurling criticisms like ninja stars at the film you loyal JoBlo fans selected as this year’s finest...allow me to make one thing brutally clear: I do NOT believe INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS is a bad film. In fact, it’s better than probably 75% of what gets released these days. Sadly, that doesn’t say much. I do however believe that INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS is not a very GOOD film (not even QT's 3rd best), and it certainly, definitely, whole-heartedly, undeniably, without a doubt is not the film it could have been. This is coming from a die-hard Tarantino fan. A man who covets the revenge genre above any other. A man whose last name, "Horwitz," should tell you straight away what religious background I come from. So let's not pretend I have no merit here!

Whew, OK. Calm down. Deep breath. Lets begin.

The first sign of trouble in INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS comes in the first scene, one that consists mostly of two men talking at a table and yet somehow, stretches an incredible 19 minutes long. I understand QT’s predisposition for dialogue, and lets face it- he may be the best in the business, but to put this in perspective, your average sitcom runs only 21 minutes. Domino's used to deliver pizzas in less time. But what the scene really introduces is something far more troubling; our eagerly anticipated Basterds, the ones that soak up nearly ALL of the trailer’s runtime, the ones who appear on all the film’s posters, taglines, loglines, you name it-- these men are not the main characters in this film. What the F, man?!


A scene from Quentin Tarantino's short film, "The Discussion."

Anyone who read the script beforehand probably knew this was coming. For all us eager fans blood-thirsty for a hardcore, humorous, wildly entertaining, no-holds-barred cinematic payback flick led by Brad Pitt and helmed by the man who brought us one of the most thrilling AND most intelligent of the genre in Kill Bill (yes its possible for action to be intelligent), we were about to be devilishly deceived. Now I know what you’re going to say: “Don’t judge a film by its misleading marketing”. But that’s not what I’m doing. See for once, the marketing had it right. They knew what they were promoting; and that's the film this SHOULD have been. The film this very easily COULD have been.  And probably the film this WOULD have been, had Tarantino not gotten the urge to divulge his feelings about King Kong, G. W. Pabst, which language we should speak in and a handful of other things that have no place being in a story we thought was about an [inexplicably] badass gang of Jewish Nazi-hunters wreaking havok on the Third Reich.


If you're gonna take the name, may as well take [some semblance of] the plot.

Instead the film gives equal if not greater screen time to a very hot chick named Shoshanna and a very well-spoken Nazi Colonel named Landa (played brilliantly by Christoph Waltz, no complaints there). While these characters get huge chunks of runtime for character development, the Basterds get almost none-- a few of them never even speak. The one who does speak the most (other than Pitt) is Eli Roth as “The Bear Jew”, a casting choice that, lets face it, never woulda happened had QT and him not been BFFs. Roth is a talented director and all, but maybe he should stay behind the camera. Every time he opens his mouth in this film, the Bear Jew becomes about as intimidating as Winnie the Pooh.

Now, onto Shoshanna before I discuss the waste of screentime that is Frederik Zoller. This woman undoubtedly is the lead in this film, can we agree? And yet, her revenge ends up being performed on every Nazi EXCEPT the man we spent the first 19 minutes setting her up to takedown. Combine her with another of the film’s unadvertised heavies, the equally hot Diane Kruger as a German film star (who cares) and you could make a decent case that the name of this film could easily have been changed to Inglourious Bitches. Unlike Shoshanna, the motivations behind Kruger’s act of treason are blurry, but who really cares, we just wanna watch them play card games in a bar all night, right? Ugh.

Zoller I don’t even wanna discuss, but I will. What is the purpose of having this man in this film? Of giving him a love story? To put a human face on the Nazis? Really QT? You’re breakin’ my heart. Nazis = brutal and sadistic. Jews = brutal by self-defense. That’s what I want to see here, cuz lets face it, you’re not making the next Schindler’s List (those little concentration camp thingies aren't even mentioned here), so why bother blurring the lines between heroes and villains? In fact, it's the Nazis who come off more honorable most times while the Jews come off as the savages (baseball bat scene, much?). Which side are we supposed to root for?


Notice which characters QT chooses to sit next to...

What made the Basterds’ lack of screentime even worse is that when they were on camera (especially Pitt and Schweiger) they were absolutely phenomenal. So why is Schweiger as the awesome Hugo Stiglitz so criminally underused when that toad-faced Goebbels guy gets so much screentime? QT, whose side are you on!? I had doubts about Pitt in this role going in, but sweet Jesus, he really stole the show. Give me more.

Now, with all that said...I get it. Some of those incredibly long scenes were masterful exercises in building tension and suspense. SOME. And yet, it must be asked...were they really necessary? Couldn't a 19 minute scene be cut down to, I don't know, a brisk 16 minutes so we could have at least 3 more glorious minutes of action (or at least backstory/character development)? QT, I love ya baby, and no matter what you do from here on out, I always will. But there is a time and place for you to wax poetic on your knowledge and passion for film history and dessert food etiquette, and during a multi-milion dollar WWII revenge saga is NOT that time or place (JoBlo.com however, is).

And with that, I say "Au reviour".

Extra Tidbit: This film was criminally nominated for more gold statuettes (8) than Pulp Fiction (7). Each won 1.
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8:07PM on 09/23/2010

Couldn't agree more!!!

I love Tarantino, Pulp Fiction is his masterpeice. If he's able to make another film of that magnitude i'll be surely impressed. But Inglorious basterds is not it.

He's right, the movie wasn't about World War 2 or the inglorious basterds. Instead it was about this chick getting revenge, instead of the Jews getting revenge.

Not QT's best by far. Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, Kill Bill, were easily better. I'd even rank Jackie Brown over it, though most wouldn't agree.
I love Tarantino, Pulp Fiction is his masterpeice. If he's able to make another film of that magnitude i'll be surely impressed. But Inglorious basterds is not it.

He's right, the movie wasn't about World War 2 or the inglorious basterds. Instead it was about this chick getting revenge, instead of the Jews getting revenge.

Not QT's best by far. Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, Kill Bill, were easily better. I'd even rank Jackie Brown over it, though most wouldn't agree.
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12:33AM on 07/04/2010
I enjoyed IB despite it not being the film that was sold to me. Not at all. Once the opening sequence started, and it was a brilliant scene, I knew it wasn't going to actually be about the Inglorious Basterds themselves. To be honest I was hugely disappointed because I really really wanted to see a QT film just about them causing havok with the Nazi's. Instead we practically saw all their stuff in the trailers.

It was still a really good film thanks to Landa but it just wasn't what I wanted
I enjoyed IB despite it not being the film that was sold to me. Not at all. Once the opening sequence started, and it was a brilliant scene, I knew it wasn't going to actually be about the Inglorious Basterds themselves. To be honest I was hugely disappointed because I really really wanted to see a QT film just about them causing havok with the Nazi's. Instead we practically saw all their stuff in the trailers.

It was still a really good film thanks to Landa but it just wasn't what I wanted to watch.
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12:16AM on 07/02/2010

19 minutes?

The thing that makes the scene so freakin brilliant is that it's all in REAL TIME. There's no cut in time, Landa arrives and leaves. We see what a hypothetical real interrogation could have been, all with brilliant dialogue. It's pure genius.
The thing that makes the scene so freakin brilliant is that it's all in REAL TIME. There's no cut in time, Landa arrives and leaves. We see what a hypothetical real interrogation could have been, all with brilliant dialogue. It's pure genius.
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3:08AM on 07/05/2010
not sure that's what a real interrogation would be like. ;)
not sure that's what a real interrogation would be like. ;)
11:14PM on 07/01/2010
The one thing I must agree most with here is Hugo Stiglitz's bad-assness. I really did wanna see him in at least one more scrape before his time was up.

Also, mightn't of hurt to toss in a couple more references to the Holocaust, however oblique. But I did enjoy the nods to German cinema of the past. I really kinda thought something as far back as that might have been just out of Tarantino's encyclopedic mind. Now I think he truly does know everything about movies.
The one thing I must agree most with here is Hugo Stiglitz's bad-assness. I really did wanna see him in at least one more scrape before his time was up.

Also, mightn't of hurt to toss in a couple more references to the Holocaust, however oblique. But I did enjoy the nods to German cinema of the past. I really kinda thought something as far back as that might have been just out of Tarantino's encyclopedic mind. Now I think he truly does know everything about movies.
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10:40AM on 07/01/2010
This movie was not what I expected and had mixed feelings about it after leaving the theater.
But then I watched it again, This shit was amazing. My number 2 Tarrantino film. Watch it again.
This movie was not what I expected and had mixed feelings about it after leaving the theater.
But then I watched it again, This shit was amazing. My number 2 Tarrantino film. Watch it again.
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7:45PM on 06/30/2010

Thank you!

I believe after seeing Death Proof, QT just keeps repeating the same film over and over again. This film did little to help my opinion of that, matter of fact, it enforced that opinion that he uses certain plot and dialoge structures as a crutch. And don't even get me started on Roth being in here, and the whole "Bear" stuff that's as subtle as QT's foot fetish. We get it Quentin, you think Eli is sexzy, but he is far from being a badass.
I believe after seeing Death Proof, QT just keeps repeating the same film over and over again. This film did little to help my opinion of that, matter of fact, it enforced that opinion that he uses certain plot and dialoge structures as a crutch. And don't even get me started on Roth being in here, and the whole "Bear" stuff that's as subtle as QT's foot fetish. We get it Quentin, you think Eli is sexzy, but he is far from being a badass.
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1:32PM on 06/30/2010

Nope

Disagree with most of everything you said. I liked that Soshanna didn't get to take her revenge on Landa, because that would have been ENTIRELY predictable and obvious, and something out of a lesser movie. I thought her final scene was a bit shocking and I loved that. Also, the opening scene (long as it is) is one of the best, most tension-filled scenes of the entire movie year. You could hear a pin drop the entire time with the audience I saw this with. True, it all could have been more
Disagree with most of everything you said. I liked that Soshanna didn't get to take her revenge on Landa, because that would have been ENTIRELY predictable and obvious, and something out of a lesser movie. I thought her final scene was a bit shocking and I loved that. Also, the opening scene (long as it is) is one of the best, most tension-filled scenes of the entire movie year. You could hear a pin drop the entire time with the audience I saw this with. True, it all could have been more focused on the Basterds and been more action-packed, but I liked the ensemble approach and the well-developed characters. This is one of QT's best.
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1:30PM on 06/30/2010

Nope

Disagree with most of everything you said. I liked that Soshanna didn't get to take her revenge on Landa, because that would have been ENTIRELY predictable and obvious, and something out of a lesser movie. I thought her final scene was a bit shocking and I loved that. Also, the opening scene (long as it is) is one of the best, most tension-filled scenes of the entire movie year. You could hear a pin drop the entire time with the audience I saw this with. True, it all could have been more
Disagree with most of everything you said. I liked that Soshanna didn't get to take her revenge on Landa, because that would have been ENTIRELY predictable and obvious, and something out of a lesser movie. I thought her final scene was a bit shocking and I loved that. Also, the opening scene (long as it is) is one of the best, most tension-filled scenes of the entire movie year. You could hear a pin drop the entire time with the audience I saw this with. True, it all could have been more focused on the Basterds and been more action-packed, but I liked the ensemble approach and the well-developed characters. This is one of QT's best.
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9:26AM on 06/30/2010

Hum....yes and no...overall no.

I love IB and I am a huge QT fan. With that said I didn't like how little screen time the Bastards had in the movie, and would've suggested him to rename the movie "Once Upon a Time In Nazi Occupied France". I can see why he didn't because INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS is a great name and lookes good on the marquee. With that and the fact that Roth (can't fucking stand him and his douchebag look) was one of the Bastards had me upset.

The only other thing that pissed me off was how Shoshanna went
I love IB and I am a huge QT fan. With that said I didn't like how little screen time the Bastards had in the movie, and would've suggested him to rename the movie "Once Upon a Time In Nazi Occupied France". I can see why he didn't because INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS is a great name and lookes good on the marquee. With that and the fact that Roth (can't fucking stand him and his douchebag look) was one of the Bastards had me upset.

The only other thing that pissed me off was how Shoshanna went out. It felt to me like he toss in his Kill Bill card and said, ok the Bride kicked ass, this chick has to go out like a little bitch.....it was just lazy screenwriting but I felt he was just caught up in the "big finish" moment while writing.

With that said, I felt the best part of the movie was the first 19 mins. This gave way to some of the best acting, best dialoge, and made Landa an instant villian. The latter part is the most importnant. Waltz had little screen time but with that intro he left his mark and was much needed.
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8:07PM on 06/29/2010
I agree. I wasn't really a fan of Inglorious basterds either. I felt it was too long on the tooth. Overbearing dialogue that lasted way too long between the minimal (and somewhat yawn inducing) action, and the main people i actually wanted to see in the film only had 15 min of freakin screen time. your opinion pretty much sums it up for me. 100% overrated.
I agree. I wasn't really a fan of Inglorious basterds either. I felt it was too long on the tooth. Overbearing dialogue that lasted way too long between the minimal (and somewhat yawn inducing) action, and the main people i actually wanted to see in the film only had 15 min of freakin screen time. your opinion pretty much sums it up for me. 100% overrated.
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1:28PM on 06/29/2010

whether you agree or not on IB

This article was a resounding success. Bullseye
This article was a resounding success. Bullseye
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2:01PM on 06/29/2010
thanks Thumbs. Gives me the fuel to keep on goin' with this.
thanks Thumbs. Gives me the fuel to keep on goin' with this.
1:21PM on 06/29/2010
I didnt really like the movie. I am happy with this. This pretty much goes through how I felt about it all.
The movie was too repetitive. Nazi comes in, jew is scared, deep convo starts, nazi leaves...
I didnt really like the movie. I am happy with this. This pretty much goes through how I felt about it all.
The movie was too repetitive. Nazi comes in, jew is scared, deep convo starts, nazi leaves...
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11:21AM on 06/29/2010
Well, let's agree to disagree :) I thought this was a magnificent spectacle, cinema at its finest, and a modern classic... but to each his own :)
Well, let's agree to disagree :) I thought this was a magnificent spectacle, cinema at its finest, and a modern classic... but to each his own :)
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5:22AM on 06/29/2010

Hm.

No, see... I find that it's good for a writer/director to tell their story. Quentin's story was what you saw, if he changed any of it specifically for any number of the personal preferences out there then it would lose something, sure - 3 minutes might not seem a lot off the dialogue scene but count to 180 and you'll see that it takes a little longer than you thought. Basterds was advertised that way because Weinstien Company was trying to save itself by making a lot of money really quickly (at
No, see... I find that it's good for a writer/director to tell their story. Quentin's story was what you saw, if he changed any of it specifically for any number of the personal preferences out there then it would lose something, sure - 3 minutes might not seem a lot off the dialogue scene but count to 180 and you'll see that it takes a little longer than you thought. Basterds was advertised that way because Weinstien Company was trying to save itself by making a lot of money really quickly (at the cinema, not a few months later on bluray) so they went all out on trying to attract everyone.
It's something that could be discussed all night and it'd be a lot of fun!
Awesome article, man.
Personally, I loved 80% of Basterds, totally agree about Zoller, I skip his scenes.
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4:41AM on 06/29/2010
Brad Pitt gave a walk though performance at best-his character IMO was badly scripted.
Brad Pitt gave a walk though performance at best-his character IMO was badly scripted.
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4:26AM on 06/29/2010
To me, this is a film that divides people, much like other QT films. Many people love his movies, many people hate them. While I respect your opinion of the film, and I am fully aware of the divide that this film has in its audience, I disagree with most of it. I wasn't bored once with this film. All the dialogue I thought was great. I also knew what to expect from the film. And that's why I read reviews before I go to a movie....most of the time. While others went in blind, having seen only
To me, this is a film that divides people, much like other QT films. Many people love his movies, many people hate them. While I respect your opinion of the film, and I am fully aware of the divide that this film has in its audience, I disagree with most of it. I wasn't bored once with this film. All the dialogue I thought was great. I also knew what to expect from the film. And that's why I read reviews before I go to a movie....most of the time. While others went in blind, having seen only the ads and expecting some big Jewish revenge flick, I was lucky enough, I guess not to expect that. And because I was warned before hand, I thought the film was brilliant. The dialogue was great, the action scenes were explosive and perfectly violent, and the ending alone almost makes the entire film worth it.

Again, to each their own. I understand the complaints about the film. But I wouldn't write the film off as something merely mediocre. This is not a film you can simply love for it's director alone. It's too strange of a film to do so. This was a well written, well directed film. I'll go with the majority on this one and say that this is classic Tarantino.
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3:46AM on 06/29/2010
Oh my god how did this comment get quintupled holy shit
Oh my god how did this comment get quintupled holy shit
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3:51AM on 06/29/2010
You get down thumbs for posting 5 times.
You get down thumbs for posting 5 times.
3:44AM on 06/29/2010
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3:51AM on 06/29/2010
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3:32AM on 06/29/2010
There's only one reason I can't green this: before this film, I was absolutely convinced that while Tarantino is great at making dialogue that fits his weird universes, it would all fall apart if he let it play out for an extended period of time. And I was all set to close the book on that theory too, after Death Proof. Then this movie happened, and he proved me completely wrong.

I don't even care that there's not enough of the Basterds in their own movie (and you're right - there should
There's only one reason I can't green this: before this film, I was absolutely convinced that while Tarantino is great at making dialogue that fits his weird universes, it would all fall apart if he let it play out for an extended period of time. And I was all set to close the book on that theory too, after Death Proof. Then this movie happened, and he proved me completely wrong.

I don't even care that there's not enough of the Basterds in their own movie (and you're right - there should be), because Tarantino showed me how brilliant he could be. And that was enough. Also, because he went fuck you to everyone who writes fiction in a historical setting and went completely alternate reality on our asses.
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2:45AM on 06/29/2010

meh

I knew this was going to be about the amount of violence in the film before I even clicked on it. I'll just say this: I can see violence in any old movie, I see Tarantino's for his marvelous writing and direction. This may be why I like Kill Bill vol. 2 more than vol. 1.

EDIT: Also, the guy who got his face smashed with the bat was Wehrmacht, not Nazi, and likely had nothing to do with Jews. When he said he got his medal for bravery, he was telling the truth. THAT'S why we find the Basterd's
I knew this was going to be about the amount of violence in the film before I even clicked on it. I'll just say this: I can see violence in any old movie, I see Tarantino's for his marvelous writing and direction. This may be why I like Kill Bill vol. 2 more than vol. 1.

EDIT: Also, the guy who got his face smashed with the bat was Wehrmacht, not Nazi, and likely had nothing to do with Jews. When he said he got his medal for bravery, he was telling the truth. THAT'S why we find the Basterd's behavior a little disturbing.
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2:12AM on 06/29/2010

Mostly in agreement.

EXCEPT that we all know enough about the Nazi's to not root for them AND evil people are people too. They may need to be quelled and removed from power but they are people too, they love, they live, they learn. Alanis Moirosette said it. And Brad Pitt just plain old sucked in this movie, come on, terrible. You all know it, just admit it.
EXCEPT that we all know enough about the Nazi's to not root for them AND evil people are people too. They may need to be quelled and removed from power but they are people too, they love, they live, they learn. Alanis Moirosette said it. And Brad Pitt just plain old sucked in this movie, come on, terrible. You all know it, just admit it.
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12:55AM on 06/29/2010

I agree

I agree with this review, but I'm not the biggest Tarantino fan. I like Kill Bill Vol. 1, but hated 2. I didn't care for Pulp Fiction, and hated Death Proof. His dialogue gets old, and just plain "look at me, I'm a cool director." I did like Basterds, but I knew going into it, it would have his huge talking scenes.
I agree with this review, but I'm not the biggest Tarantino fan. I like Kill Bill Vol. 1, but hated 2. I didn't care for Pulp Fiction, and hated Death Proof. His dialogue gets old, and just plain "look at me, I'm a cool director." I did like Basterds, but I knew going into it, it would have his huge talking scenes.
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12:43AM on 06/29/2010
I agree and disagree with this review. While yes it could have been more "basterds" focused and much more of a true action movie as the trailers led it to be portrayed I though what we got was great if not unexpected. I think the sparseness of the true gritty violent action scenes in the movie gives them more power. I agree that the basterds should have been given some more focus and that the Zoller plotline was completely unnecessary, but otherwise you are just wanting a completely different
I agree and disagree with this review. While yes it could have been more "basterds" focused and much more of a true action movie as the trailers led it to be portrayed I though what we got was great if not unexpected. I think the sparseness of the true gritty violent action scenes in the movie gives them more power. I agree that the basterds should have been given some more focus and that the Zoller plotline was completely unnecessary, but otherwise you are just wanting a completely different movie. It is like all the people that complained about Where the Wild Things Are. Just because it is not what YOU wanted and were hoping and expecting to get doesn't make it any less great of a movie. The fact is we should be able to appreciate the way Tarintino did this movie more. The complaints you list for the most part make me think you want the film to be closer to a mainstream action flick with Tarintino stylings, which is not what we need at all. We need more films like this that show how great a movie can be with a 19 minute opening scene of straight dialogue.
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12:22AM on 06/29/2010
I agree with this review.
I agree with this review.
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1:31PM on 06/29/2010
i disagree with your beard
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12:12AM on 06/29/2010

Best Article on JoBlo Ever!!!!!

You can't deny the 140+ responses to this article! You def hit a nerve with all of us schmoes! The entire JoBlo fanbase is almost perfectly divided in half over this film and it makes for great reading! Some of these posts are classic. Can we do this for Avatar next?
You can't deny the 140+ responses to this article! You def hit a nerve with all of us schmoes! The entire JoBlo fanbase is almost perfectly divided in half over this film and it makes for great reading! Some of these posts are classic. Can we do this for Avatar next?
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2:02AM on 06/29/2010
Thanks for the love! And re: Avatar, ya know, I'm actually starting to think about it...
Thanks for the love! And re: Avatar, ya know, I'm actually starting to think about it...
3:36AM on 06/29/2010
But which is the unpopular opinion? That it sucks or that it's good? Because its popularity indicates that it's good...but any time you talk about it with someone they're like "I just wish it would go away"
But which is the unpopular opinion? That it sucks or that it's good? Because its popularity indicates that it's good...but any time you talk about it with someone they're like "I just wish it would go away"
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11:24PM on 06/28/2010

So true...mostly.

After leaving the theater I felt molested by QT's geekiness, like he jerked off in my face for 2 1/2 hrs. It all lept off screen as a gigantic, epic mess. I also, was confused by all the screen time the non-basterd's were getting...wtf, indeed! After all the dust settled I did give it a re-watch and enjoyed it more but it still wasn't what it could've been.
After leaving the theater I felt molested by QT's geekiness, like he jerked off in my face for 2 1/2 hrs. It all lept off screen as a gigantic, epic mess. I also, was confused by all the screen time the non-basterd's were getting...wtf, indeed! After all the dust settled I did give it a re-watch and enjoyed it more but it still wasn't what it could've been.
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10:15PM on 06/28/2010
Yup. Boring, overwrought, tedious movie that happened to have a really good ending. That tavern scene was pure torture.
Yup. Boring, overwrought, tedious movie that happened to have a really good ending. That tavern scene was pure torture.
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9:59PM on 06/28/2010

Bah

That first scene of the film should be screened for every aspiring filmmaker/actor on how to build tension with acting and writing. No funny special FX, just old school filmmaking at its best. One of my top five favorite scenes of ALL TIME.
That first scene of the film should be screened for every aspiring filmmaker/actor on how to build tension with acting and writing. No funny special FX, just old school filmmaking at its best. One of my top five favorite scenes of ALL TIME.
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8:59PM on 06/28/2010
Gotta agree. thought this was way over rated. I do love QT, great film maker and nearly always entetaining. I was amped for this film, but that opening scene was pure torture. 20 minutes of one dude trying to show how smart he was at deducing stuff, and the other showing how smart he was hiding stuff. For 20 damn minutes.
Oh you have cows, that must mean you have milk, may I have some? Come on!
When it came down to it, a film about Jews on a Nazi revenge bender was actaully boring.
I
Gotta agree. thought this was way over rated. I do love QT, great film maker and nearly always entetaining. I was amped for this film, but that opening scene was pure torture. 20 minutes of one dude trying to show how smart he was at deducing stuff, and the other showing how smart he was hiding stuff. For 20 damn minutes.
Oh you have cows, that must mean you have milk, may I have some? Come on!
When it came down to it, a film about Jews on a Nazi revenge bender was actaully boring.
I usually like slow paced films, but this, particularly that first scene just made my toes curl in frustration.
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3:45AM on 06/29/2010
"I usually like slow paced films"

Well THERE'S your problem!
"I usually like slow paced films"

Well THERE'S your problem!
8:41PM on 06/28/2010

Terrible "review"

Hindsight's usually 20/20, but you have cataracts, buddy. So you criticize the casting of Roth for not being tough enough, and then immediately contradict yourself about the baseball bat scene that tries to show that the character is indeed tough and one to be feared.

Sure the Basterds were underused, but most of your points are shit.
Hindsight's usually 20/20, but you have cataracts, buddy. So you criticize the casting of Roth for not being tough enough, and then immediately contradict yourself about the baseball bat scene that tries to show that the character is indeed tough and one to be feared.

Sure the Basterds were underused, but most of your points are shit.
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12:53AM on 06/29/2010
keep sucking the Tarantino cock buddy. He didn't contradict himself about Roth, just the action of using the baseball bat itself. He was talking about his acting ability delivering dialogue, so maybe you have cataracts, or are just stupid and don't get the point he was trying to make.
keep sucking the Tarantino cock buddy. He didn't contradict himself about Roth, just the action of using the baseball bat itself. He was talking about his acting ability delivering dialogue, so maybe you have cataracts, or are just stupid and don't get the point he was trying to make.
2:06AM on 06/29/2010
yeah, what halflife said. When did I say Roth was "tough and one to be feared"? I actually said the opposite, that because of his crap acting, he came off as anything but intimidating. Just a savage, but not one that'll keep me up at night.
yeah, what halflife said. When did I say Roth was "tough and one to be feared"? I actually said the opposite, that because of his crap acting, he came off as anything but intimidating. Just a savage, but not one that'll keep me up at night.
8:09PM on 06/28/2010
The only part I agree with you about is that the Basterds were under used in the film. The guy from "The Office" had about 3 minutes of screen time. The title and marketing for this film were misleading, this film had little to do with the Basterds. But I did like the what I did see. Reminds me of another Pitt film, Babel, which focused the marketing on him but he had a small part in the movie overall, and that movie was way more over-rated. This and Babel don't make me trust the next film
The only part I agree with you about is that the Basterds were under used in the film. The guy from "The Office" had about 3 minutes of screen time. The title and marketing for this film were misleading, this film had little to do with the Basterds. But I did like the what I did see. Reminds me of another Pitt film, Babel, which focused the marketing on him but he had a small part in the movie overall, and that movie was way more over-rated. This and Babel don't make me trust the next film I'll see a trailer for with Pitt as the lead.
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7:30PM on 06/28/2010
You hit the nail on the head.

This movie was overrated from the word go. I am neither a QT lover or hater. Loved Pulp Fiction, didn't care for Kill Bill, Liked Reservoir Dogs, Bored with Jackie Brown.....so I am down the middle on QT. However, I found myself watching this movie and asking, "That's ALL we're going to see of the Basterds?!?!?" They did nothing.

And then, just when you think they are going to reek some awesome revenge they screw it up and get busted.

Then QT has them
You hit the nail on the head.

This movie was overrated from the word go. I am neither a QT lover or hater. Loved Pulp Fiction, didn't care for Kill Bill, Liked Reservoir Dogs, Bored with Jackie Brown.....so I am down the middle on QT. However, I found myself watching this movie and asking, "That's ALL we're going to see of the Basterds?!?!?" They did nothing.

And then, just when you think they are going to reek some awesome revenge they screw it up and get busted.

Then QT has them exact some of the most far-fetched and historically inaccurate revenge around. I would have liked it more if they were trying to kill Hitler, killed a vast majority of everyone around him, and ended up missing Hitler, but having him die accidentally afterward in his bunker which looked like the suicide history says that he committed....only to reveal that it was caused by the Basterds and their "failed" suicide attempt.

New column is a fun topic.
I can't wait to see what you do next.
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7:35PM on 06/28/2010
Well said.
Well said.
3:44AM on 06/29/2010
Now it's time for bed.

We're just rhyming first lines here, right?
Now it's time for bed.

We're just rhyming first lines here, right?
7:28PM on 06/28/2010

I liked it

I'm not gonna "go red" because I don't have a problem with people having a different opinion. I took something very different out of the film. I thought the film was really about how people manipulate each other - through propaganda, through intimidation, through deception. I mean at the end, hes kind of beating you over the head with the special form of propoganda - film - quite literally potent enough to change history itself. This film to me was not so much about WW2, as it was
I'm not gonna "go red" because I don't have a problem with people having a different opinion. I took something very different out of the film. I thought the film was really about how people manipulate each other - through propaganda, through intimidation, through deception. I mean at the end, hes kind of beating you over the head with the special form of propoganda - film - quite literally potent enough to change history itself. This film to me was not so much about WW2, as it was commenting on some of the film stereotypes of that era of cinema, without directly aping them. I like that he held back, and it made for an original film, for sure. There's been so many of those crack-violent "dirty dozen" WW2 films, that going too close to the source material would have been a little on the nose. Kind of like how Jackie Brown had a lot to say about blaxploitation, but ultimately transcended it into a much more layered conversation.

I can understand how the people who want to see some of the grit of his other films would be frustrated, and I'm not condescending. I just think there's multiple sides to Tarantino, and this was very much Tarantino in repose.
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3:42AM on 06/29/2010
Exactly. It's like, there's ten million movies out there that have a group of guys who get to play outside the "rules", and go around killing Nazis in ww2. And knowing Tarantino, he's probably seen every one. So in this, he was basically just doing a cliffs notes of that aspect.
Exactly. It's like, there's ten million movies out there that have a group of guys who get to play outside the "rules", and go around killing Nazis in ww2. And knowing Tarantino, he's probably seen every one. So in this, he was basically just doing a cliffs notes of that aspect.
6:54PM on 06/28/2010
I'm just going to be easy when commenting on this article...DITTO! (LOVE the new column)
I'm just going to be easy when commenting on this article...DITTO! (LOVE the new column)
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6:51PM on 06/28/2010
Yes. Inglorious Basterds was two films all jumbled up together in a fairly unpleasant mess. What I will disagree with you on, and will probably get TONS of hate for.. I was far more interested in Shoshanna's story than anything the Basterds did.

Hell, Tarantino should have just taken out the Basterds and marketed the film as a more dramatic "Kill Bill with Nazis".
Yes. Inglorious Basterds was two films all jumbled up together in a fairly unpleasant mess. What I will disagree with you on, and will probably get TONS of hate for.. I was far more interested in Shoshanna's story than anything the Basterds did.

Hell, Tarantino should have just taken out the Basterds and marketed the film as a more dramatic "Kill Bill with Nazis".
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11:57PM on 06/28/2010
You will not receive hate for loving the Shoshanna story. It's the core of the film. And most people love the film. Ergo, most people love the Shoshanna story.
You will not receive hate for loving the Shoshanna story. It's the core of the film. And most people love the film. Ergo, most people love the Shoshanna story.
6:05PM on 06/28/2010
I agree with most of what you said
I agree with most of what you said
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5:52PM on 06/28/2010
I'm surprised this movie actually split down the middle. I loved the movie, I do somewhat agree about Zoller, he was sort of a bore.

I actually loved the score in this film, I thought it made the movie. This is a film you need to turn up loud and kick back with.
I'm surprised this movie actually split down the middle. I loved the movie, I do somewhat agree about Zoller, he was sort of a bore.

I actually loved the score in this film, I thought it made the movie. This is a film you need to turn up loud and kick back with.
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5:51PM on 06/28/2010

I don't get your point about the marketing

Y'see, the marketers knew what this film entailed, yet the trailers made it out to be the revenge flick you expected simply because more people would come to see it. So the marketers did 'have it right' in the sense that they were doing their job correctly, but not as an accurate advertisement for the film (however, trailers usually have to make a film look generic so that people will see it, hence No Country for Old Men being made out to be a thriller/horror). Basically, I think you are
Y'see, the marketers knew what this film entailed, yet the trailers made it out to be the revenge flick you expected simply because more people would come to see it. So the marketers did 'have it right' in the sense that they were doing their job correctly, but not as an accurate advertisement for the film (however, trailers usually have to make a film look generic so that people will see it, hence No Country for Old Men being made out to be a thriller/horror). Basically, I think you are judging a film by misleading marketing, and you're response to this doesn't seem to make sense. The rant comes across as "this film isn't so good because it wasn't what I expected" rather than "this film isn't so good because [an explanation of flawed filmmaking]". I think the opening scene could have been a little shorter though so I agree with you on that point, but I think all the other tension scenes were perfect.

Like this series of articles, keep 'em coming.
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5:37PM on 06/28/2010

I have to disagree

I thought Basterds was very well done. You do make interesting points, but those points end up being what a QT film is. I will agree with the title though; a little off there. The film has such better storylines going for it, and the plot with the Basterds themselves falls short. BUt I think this movie is not only well done, but great to watch. I watch it maybe once a week.
I thought Basterds was very well done. You do make interesting points, but those points end up being what a QT film is. I will agree with the title though; a little off there. The film has such better storylines going for it, and the plot with the Basterds themselves falls short. BUt I think this movie is not only well done, but great to watch. I watch it maybe once a week.
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5:17PM on 06/28/2010

Tidbit is Wrong

Robert Forster was nominated for an Academy Award for Jackie Brown.
Robert Forster was nominated for an Academy Award for Jackie Brown.
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8:00PM on 06/28/2010
nice catch, thanks for that. Fixed it.
nice catch, thanks for that. Fixed it.
5:08PM on 06/28/2010
good points in this piece. but you're failing to recognize that this movie is more like pulp fiction than kill bill in plot setup and progression. each chapter plays out fully instead of choppy back and forth. also a little of jackie brown's same-scene-different perspective thrown in. by the very nature of the film, the Basterds would only be minor characters.
good points in this piece. but you're failing to recognize that this movie is more like pulp fiction than kill bill in plot setup and progression. each chapter plays out fully instead of choppy back and forth. also a little of jackie brown's same-scene-different perspective thrown in. by the very nature of the film, the Basterds would only be minor characters.
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2:16AM on 06/29/2010
sweet. Im fine with that. Then don't call the movie "Inglourious Basterds".
sweet. Im fine with that. Then don't call the movie "Inglourious Basterds".
5:08PM on 06/28/2010

Gotta Disagree

I do agree that the Basterds were brilliant and deserved more screentime but it was a great film and I enjoyed the 1st scene a lot. It's a fantastic film
I do agree that the Basterds were brilliant and deserved more screentime but it was a great film and I enjoyed the 1st scene a lot. It's a fantastic film
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4:30PM on 06/28/2010

uhh ok

I see what your saying this movie many pros ans cons but for me I loved it.I am certainly annoyed by the whole "The Basterds weren't in the movie enough" I see it as its a QT movie enjoy it,I mean yes some of his films are better than others but ALOT of moves are crap these days.
I see what your saying this movie many pros ans cons but for me I loved it.I am certainly annoyed by the whole "The Basterds weren't in the movie enough" I see it as its a QT movie enjoy it,I mean yes some of his films are better than others but ALOT of moves are crap these days.
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4:24PM on 06/28/2010
I loved Inglourious Basterds. I love Quentin Tarantino. But you know what I love most? Is how much heated debate a single Q.T. movie...nay, a single Q.T. SCENE...can cause. It's beautiful.

Because isn't that the point of art? Has Q.T. not succeeded in doing what every artist intends to do?

This Strikeback is green because I think this new column is the tits.
I loved Inglourious Basterds. I love Quentin Tarantino. But you know what I love most? Is how much heated debate a single Q.T. movie...nay, a single Q.T. SCENE...can cause. It's beautiful.

Because isn't that the point of art? Has Q.T. not succeeded in doing what every artist intends to do?

This Strikeback is green because I think this new column is the tits.
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4:45PM on 06/28/2010
Your saying because QT's movie can generate a debate that it should be looked at as a great piece of art.
I think the purpose of this article was about having the balls to speak out and tell the real truth behind Inglorious Basterd's that it just was not that great (piece of art).
Your saying because QT's movie can generate a debate that it should be looked at as a great piece of art.
I think the purpose of this article was about having the balls to speak out and tell the real truth behind Inglorious Basterd's that it just was not that great (piece of art).
4:23PM on 06/28/2010

agree

i'll go even further. i hated this film. though i could appreciate the effort that went into it, it wasn't a good film to me. boring and bland and, when it came to the basterds, stupid. felt like it was 4 hours long, and the payoff was incredibly ridiculous. good call.
i'll go even further. i hated this film. though i could appreciate the effort that went into it, it wasn't a good film to me. boring and bland and, when it came to the basterds, stupid. felt like it was 4 hours long, and the payoff was incredibly ridiculous. good call.
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4:22PM on 06/28/2010
I agree with most of what you said, but your forgetting a key aspect of this movie. Christopher Waltz performance made all the problems of this film float away forever.

ATTENDEZ LA CREME
I agree with most of what you said, but your forgetting a key aspect of this movie. Christopher Waltz performance made all the problems of this film float away forever.

ATTENDEZ LA CREME
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4:22PM on 06/28/2010
I completely disagree, but I completely respect your opinion.
I completely disagree, but I completely respect your opinion.
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4:17PM on 06/28/2010

double post

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4:06PM on 06/28/2010

Respectful Disagreement

Loved this movie, it was better then I expected it to be. Had no problem with the length of scenes, or the buildup of tension. My only complaint is that I wished the movie hadn't gone into the realm of fake history toward the end, but that's a minor nitpick. Waltz was well deserving of his Oscar, I thought Kruger should have been nominated for Best Supporting Actress too (should have taken Farmiga's nom spot).
Loved this movie, it was better then I expected it to be. Had no problem with the length of scenes, or the buildup of tension. My only complaint is that I wished the movie hadn't gone into the realm of fake history toward the end, but that's a minor nitpick. Waltz was well deserving of his Oscar, I thought Kruger should have been nominated for Best Supporting Actress too (should have taken Farmiga's nom spot).
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4:01PM on 06/28/2010
Thanks, at least, for not complaining about the subtitles. For that, I shall reward you a green strike-back.
Thanks, at least, for not complaining about the subtitles. For that, I shall reward you a green strike-back.
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4:04PM on 06/28/2010
hah, thanks man. I can't complain about an attempt to lend some authenticity to it. Even if there were literally 3-4 minutes of screentime spent debating which language they should speak.
hah, thanks man. I can't complain about an attempt to lend some authenticity to it. Even if there were literally 3-4 minutes of screentime spent debating which language they should speak.
1:52AM on 06/29/2010
3-4 minutes of screentime? Not true. And you call yourself a journalist...tssk...
3-4 minutes of screentime? Not true. And you call yourself a journalist...tssk...
3:58PM on 06/28/2010

Agreed

When I think back on it, the only thing that really, really impressed me about Basterds was Hans Lada. He was an extremely mesmorizing & excellent character and I would have loved a film based solely on him as well as the basterds.

Everytime the film focused on Zoller & Shoshanna I was fucking bored. I kept thinking to myself, "bring back Lada & the basterds! enough of this dull verbal exchange between a overly horny guy and a clearly disinterested woman" - seriously, if they eliminated
When I think back on it, the only thing that really, really impressed me about Basterds was Hans Lada. He was an extremely mesmorizing & excellent character and I would have loved a film based solely on him as well as the basterds.

Everytime the film focused on Zoller & Shoshanna I was fucking bored. I kept thinking to myself, "bring back Lada & the basterds! enough of this dull verbal exchange between a overly horny guy and a clearly disinterested woman" - seriously, if they eliminated this part of the film they could have shaved 45 minutes to an hour off of the film. If they used that time to engage in actual Nazi hunting & battle scenes it would have been even better. Really it was a deeply, deeply flawed movie in retrospect.
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3:48PM on 06/28/2010
Totally agree with just about everything you said. Except I'm not a QT fanboy so my opinion isn't valid hahaha.
Totally agree with just about everything you said. Except I'm not a QT fanboy so my opinion isn't valid hahaha.
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3:42PM on 06/28/2010
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3:40PM on 06/28/2010
I don't disagree here, this was the exact opinion of the movie I had after I saw it the first time. On repeat viewings I came to like and even respect this film but I was actually pretty pissed off after that first viewing. To this day I still think it's an odd choice to give any humanity to the nazis.
I don't disagree here, this was the exact opinion of the movie I had after I saw it the first time. On repeat viewings I came to like and even respect this film but I was actually pretty pissed off after that first viewing. To this day I still think it's an odd choice to give any humanity to the nazis.
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3:39PM on 06/28/2010

Duped!

Don't be fooled, loyal Joblo fans! Characters debating the merits of cream puffs is not deep or insightful. How about they debate the merits of concentration camps if we're looking for that kind of movie? The stuff our "heroes" discuss in this film is nothing more than a list of Q.T.'s "turn-ons" on his Facebook profile page.
Don't be fooled, loyal Joblo fans! Characters debating the merits of cream puffs is not deep or insightful. How about they debate the merits of concentration camps if we're looking for that kind of movie? The stuff our "heroes" discuss in this film is nothing more than a list of Q.T.'s "turn-ons" on his Facebook profile page.
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3:51PM on 06/28/2010
Nobody "debates" cream puffs. There's like 2 lines about cream puffs, and it fits perfectly in the scene because this horrifying guy is being so pleasant, and it makes him even more terrifying. The tension in that scene is... does he remember?
Nobody "debates" cream puffs. There's like 2 lines about cream puffs, and it fits perfectly in the scene because this horrifying guy is being so pleasant, and it makes him even more terrifying. The tension in that scene is... does he remember?
3:53PM on 06/28/2010
cream puffs is one example out of a hundred. I get what you're sayin' there, but this could have been accomplished in a look. Tension is created in the two of them just being at the same table.
cream puffs is one example out of a hundred. I get what you're sayin' there, but this could have been accomplished in a look. Tension is created in the two of them just being at the same table.
3:56PM on 06/28/2010
And he did give her a look in that scene... a horrifying look... but that made you think he remembered. The cream puffs took a hard turn into "maybe he doesn't remember." OR "Maybe he's toying with me..." which is far more terrifying.
And he did give her a look in that scene... a horrifying look... but that made you think he remembered. The cream puffs took a hard turn into "maybe he doesn't remember." OR "Maybe he's toying with me..." which is far more terrifying.
4:14PM on 06/28/2010
Agree with VitamanMan. If those actors weren't so good, and if Q.T. wasn't such an incredible director, that conversation would have been as ridiculous as you perceive it to be. But instead, we got one of the most terrying, tense scenes ever.
Agree with VitamanMan. If those actors weren't so good, and if Q.T. wasn't such an incredible director, that conversation would have been as ridiculous as you perceive it to be. But instead, we got one of the most terrying, tense scenes ever.
4:20PM on 06/28/2010
a terrifying, tense scene...with no conclusion. In fact, Landa and Shoshanna never had a conclusion. It was the Basterds who dealt with Landa in the end...so what was the point of all the Shoshanna vs. Landa build-up?
a terrifying, tense scene...with no conclusion. In fact, Landa and Shoshanna never had a conclusion. It was the Basterds who dealt with Landa in the end...so what was the point of all the Shoshanna vs. Landa build-up?
4:38PM on 06/28/2010
Landa fueled Shoshanna's hatred of the Nazi's. But if the conflict had been resolved with her killing Hans Landa, the movie would have been purely about revenge. Shoshanna was about much more than that. Her goal was to destroy an ideology, and she was willing to die to do so. Landa was there to create the justice-seeking Shoshanna. The scene in the diner with the cream shows that Shoshanna has become unrecognizable in her new form, that she has become more than a victim.
Landa fueled Shoshanna's hatred of the Nazi's. But if the conflict had been resolved with her killing Hans Landa, the movie would have been purely about revenge. Shoshanna was about much more than that. Her goal was to destroy an ideology, and she was willing to die to do so. Landa was there to create the justice-seeking Shoshanna. The scene in the diner with the cream shows that Shoshanna has become unrecognizable in her new form, that she has become more than a victim.
2:12AM on 06/29/2010
OR the scene in the diner is pointless, cuz Hans never recognized her...cuz he never saw her face in the first place. You're also reading too deeply about Shoshanna's goal to kill an ideology. She wanted to kill as many nazis as she could. You dont destroy a belief by blowing up a movie theatre. Ask Ghandi and MLK Jr. Shoshanna wanted revenge, and the way she went about it was by slaughtering men and women (some of whom were probably innocent) the same way the Nazis did in concentration
OR the scene in the diner is pointless, cuz Hans never recognized her...cuz he never saw her face in the first place. You're also reading too deeply about Shoshanna's goal to kill an ideology. She wanted to kill as many nazis as she could. You dont destroy a belief by blowing up a movie theatre. Ask Ghandi and MLK Jr. Shoshanna wanted revenge, and the way she went about it was by slaughtering men and women (some of whom were probably innocent) the same way the Nazis did in concentration camps...by burning them alive.
3:09PM on 06/28/2010

look deeper

IB was a great film filled with powerful dialog and should have won for best screen play. I may have felt what you wrote after seeing it only once. But after re-watching it I was wowed by its powerful writing and editing. As you said, action films don't have to be mindless. This was one of those cases. It was fun when it needed to be fun and tense when it needed to be tense. I'm sorry it didn't live up to your expectations, but you shouldn't expect a movie to be anything like its preview,
IB was a great film filled with powerful dialog and should have won for best screen play. I may have felt what you wrote after seeing it only once. But after re-watching it I was wowed by its powerful writing and editing. As you said, action films don't have to be mindless. This was one of those cases. It was fun when it needed to be fun and tense when it needed to be tense. I'm sorry it didn't live up to your expectations, but you shouldn't expect a movie to be anything like its preview, EVER!

What I think you should have done is attacked the horrible work of the Hurt Locker and explored how much of a crap film that was.
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4:47PM on 06/28/2010
When I compare Inglorious Basterd's in terms of QT's screenplay writing ability. It was like he was taking a step from his old movie projects such as True Romance, Natural Born killers, and Pulp fiction.
I did not mention Reservoir Dogs because he ripped off "City On Fire" and I am not going to mention Kill Bill because that ripped off "Lady Snowblood" 1 and 2.
Funny how the psychotic QT fan's heads practically explode when they find out QT had ripped off other movie ideas. Even thought there
When I compare Inglorious Basterd's in terms of QT's screenplay writing ability. It was like he was taking a step from his old movie projects such as True Romance, Natural Born killers, and Pulp fiction.
I did not mention Reservoir Dogs because he ripped off "City On Fire" and I am not going to mention Kill Bill because that ripped off "Lady Snowblood" 1 and 2.
Funny how the psychotic QT fan's heads practically explode when they find out QT had ripped off other movie ideas. Even thought there is countless proof of it they just do not want to believe it. QT is good, not great. And you are an idiot if you really believe The Hurt Locker was a bad movie.
4:50PM on 06/28/2010
I'm thumbing you down because Hurt Locker isn't a piece of crap. It has pacing issues, and it doesn't have the greatest story ever, but it's a great look into the minds of the people who are risking their lives every day to keep people like YOU alive.
I'm thumbing you down because Hurt Locker isn't a piece of crap. It has pacing issues, and it doesn't have the greatest story ever, but it's a great look into the minds of the people who are risking their lives every day to keep people like YOU alive.
5:08PM on 06/28/2010
Vitaminman, don't think i ever saw you post on here before but you are batting a thousand.
Vitaminman, don't think i ever saw you post on here before but you are batting a thousand.
5:13PM on 06/28/2010
I've been around. And I'm aware that most people don't like Hurt Locker. I hated it the first time I saw it. And I still don't particularly like it, but calling it a piece of crap is just wrong. A piece of crap is like Furry Vengeance. And in no way should Hurt Locker ever be on the same level as Furry Vengeance, no matter how much you dislike it.
I've been around. And I'm aware that most people don't like Hurt Locker. I hated it the first time I saw it. And I still don't particularly like it, but calling it a piece of crap is just wrong. A piece of crap is like Furry Vengeance. And in no way should Hurt Locker ever be on the same level as Furry Vengeance, no matter how much you dislike it.
5:42PM on 06/28/2010
Ok so maybe Hurt Locker wasn't the worst movie I have ever seen, but it got so much Hollywood bandwagon praise it made me sick. I think it was a weak story, poor editing, blah main character, and just tried to be more than it was. I don't always love QT's work, but IB was far better than HL and deserved the award over HL and/or Avatar.

As for an insight into our brave soldiers over there: I have quite a few friends who have served and are serving over there and they despise this film.

so
Ok so maybe Hurt Locker wasn't the worst movie I have ever seen, but it got so much Hollywood bandwagon praise it made me sick. I think it was a weak story, poor editing, blah main character, and just tried to be more than it was. I don't always love QT's work, but IB was far better than HL and deserved the award over HL and/or Avatar.

As for an insight into our brave soldiers over there: I have quite a few friends who have served and are serving over there and they despise this film.

so while Vitaman, u got a point about HL not being a complete pile of shit, I stand strongly by my belief that it did not deserve the oscar
12:01AM on 06/29/2010
And I agree with you. When it won the Oscar, I scowled. I wanted IB to win, although I knew it wouldn't. I, too, have friends and family in Iraq and Afghanistan right now, and the film didn't do them justice. It did do a great job of providing an atmosphere and showing the effects of war. Specifically, adrenaline and thrill seeking. Just because your friends and my friends don't like the film doesn't make it less true.

As a piece of art, Hurt Locker is disjointed and incomplete. But the
And I agree with you. When it won the Oscar, I scowled. I wanted IB to win, although I knew it wouldn't. I, too, have friends and family in Iraq and Afghanistan right now, and the film didn't do them justice. It did do a great job of providing an atmosphere and showing the effects of war. Specifically, adrenaline and thrill seeking. Just because your friends and my friends don't like the film doesn't make it less true.

As a piece of art, Hurt Locker is disjointed and incomplete. But the heart is there.
3:04PM on 06/28/2010

Anyone Who Loved This Must Be A Fanboy

A) Bullshit on that. While yes, I am, I also know he makes bad films. "Death Proof" was sheer crap, and to Aaron, the first volume of "Kill Bill" is quite mindless. B) Your whole argument is that it wasn't as advertised, and that Roth did a bad acting job. You wrote an entire article because the trailers mislead you!?! Really?

-laughs ass off- I never trust trailers anymore, after "Rushmore" ended up being good; it has one of the worst and stupidest trailers I've ever seen, and if all you
A) Bullshit on that. While yes, I am, I also know he makes bad films. "Death Proof" was sheer crap, and to Aaron, the first volume of "Kill Bill" is quite mindless. B) Your whole argument is that it wasn't as advertised, and that Roth did a bad acting job. You wrote an entire article because the trailers mislead you!?! Really?

-laughs ass off- I never trust trailers anymore, after "Rushmore" ended up being good; it has one of the worst and stupidest trailers I've ever seen, and if all you wanted was a hack n slash revenge flick, go watch something else.

I have no problem with you disliking the movie for actual faults with the film (ie- your Roth acting thing, fine, I disagree, he didn't bother me, but it's a valid excuse), however, everything else is simply because the Bastereds weren't in it, and you thought they'd be. That's not reviewing a movie, that's playing "what if" and for a movie site, and a review (of sorts) that's bloody sad. I'm really disappointed in JoBlo all the way around today.
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3:03PM on 06/28/2010
BASTERDS is second to PULP for me. i don't think it's even questionable to doubt this film. Tarantino can do no wrong in my book. well directing and writing anyways. producing is questionable. HELL RIDE. oh god HELL RIDE
BASTERDS is second to PULP for me. i don't think it's even questionable to doubt this film. Tarantino can do no wrong in my book. well directing and writing anyways. producing is questionable. HELL RIDE. oh god HELL RIDE
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3:01PM on 06/28/2010

LOVE TARANTINO

HATED THIS MOVIE, What's worse than an overwritten Tarantino movie (Deathproof) An overwritten Tarantino movie in french and about 1930's German cinema YAAAWWWNNN.
HATED THIS MOVIE, What's worse than an overwritten Tarantino movie (Deathproof) An overwritten Tarantino movie in french and about 1930's German cinema YAAAWWWNNN.
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2:54PM on 06/28/2010
opps
opps
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2:53PM on 06/28/2010
opps again!
opps again!
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2:52PM on 06/28/2010

74 posts later...

And we are all still on the same sides we were back in August last year. That's hilariously awesome. The fact that a film can garner this much discussion really speaks volumes if you ask me. Just sayin' is all.
And we are all still on the same sides we were back in August last year. That's hilariously awesome. The fact that a film can garner this much discussion really speaks volumes if you ask me. Just sayin' is all.
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2:52PM on 06/28/2010

Your Movie in my mind

After reading your article I can see what movie you wanted Inglourious Basterds to be... Director - Michael Bay...Plot - Transformers 2 (replace Autobots with the Jewish Inglourious Basterds, replace Decepticons with Nazi's and have them beat the shit out of each other, replace tiny humping-bot with Zoller, replace Megan Fox with Shoshanna. I don't know maybe I'm missing something I'll just have to go back and watch Inglourious Basterds again followed by TF2!
After reading your article I can see what movie you wanted Inglourious Basterds to be... Director - Michael Bay...Plot - Transformers 2 (replace Autobots with the Jewish Inglourious Basterds, replace Decepticons with Nazi's and have them beat the shit out of each other, replace tiny humping-bot with Zoller, replace Megan Fox with Shoshanna. I don't know maybe I'm missing something I'll just have to go back and watch Inglourious Basterds again followed by TF2!
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3:06PM on 06/28/2010
you're the second person to read my column and think I wanted Michael Bay to direct it, which bums me out. QT is NOT Michael Bay, he's leagues beyond Bay. He knows how to make an INTELLIGENT action revenge flick, as I mentioned, and did so with Kill Bill. I wanted something more closely related to that. When he throws blaxploitation tributes in a WWII film, we already know we're not getting something deeply intellectual, so may as well go for more style and a tad less substance (if discussing
you're the second person to read my column and think I wanted Michael Bay to direct it, which bums me out. QT is NOT Michael Bay, he's leagues beyond Bay. He knows how to make an INTELLIGENT action revenge flick, as I mentioned, and did so with Kill Bill. I wanted something more closely related to that. When he throws blaxploitation tributes in a WWII film, we already know we're not getting something deeply intellectual, so may as well go for more style and a tad less substance (if discussing cream puffs can be classified as substance).
3:22PM on 06/28/2010
I don't understand you when you say Kill Bill is "intelligent." It's a balls-to-the-wall revenge flick, and only becomes somewhat "thoughtful" in the final scene with Bill. A person's heart explodes in that movie. If you're adding "thought" to that, you'll hate it. Much as I did the first time I saw it. Only when I turned off my brain was I able to appreciate the movie.
I don't understand you when you say Kill Bill is "intelligent." It's a balls-to-the-wall revenge flick, and only becomes somewhat "thoughtful" in the final scene with Bill. A person's heart explodes in that movie. If you're adding "thought" to that, you'll hate it. Much as I did the first time I saw it. Only when I turned off my brain was I able to appreciate the movie.
3:29PM on 06/28/2010
if you're telling me there's no difference between Kill Bill and a Michael Bay movie...
if you're telling me there's no difference between Kill Bill and a Michael Bay movie...
3:52PM on 06/28/2010
Not at all. If I turn off my brain, I can enjoy Kill Bill. In no way, ever, can I enjoy a Michael Bay movie.
Not at all. If I turn off my brain, I can enjoy Kill Bill. In no way, ever, can I enjoy a Michael Bay movie.
2:50PM on 06/28/2010
I think a good point to make is that the entirety dragged so much that I cherished the scenes with those colorful characters the basterds. Also as a kid from boston how can I not love Donny Donowitz: "Teddy fuckin' ballgame, right outta the fuckin park!!"
I think a good point to make is that the entirety dragged so much that I cherished the scenes with those colorful characters the basterds. Also as a kid from boston how can I not love Donny Donowitz: "Teddy fuckin' ballgame, right outta the fuckin park!!"
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2:35PM on 06/28/2010
(stands up) "I didn't care for this flick either!"
Though, the movie did give me ample time to refill my drinks and popcorn while not missing a beat.
(stands up) "I didn't care for this flick either!"
Though, the movie did give me ample time to refill my drinks and popcorn while not missing a beat.
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2:33PM on 06/28/2010

The three fanboy directors (Tarantino, Nolan, Scorsese) used to be good but now they suck

I hated Inglorious Bastards a lot more than the writer of this article. That and Death Proof were by far the low point of Tarantino's career.

I think this is an excellent idea for a column. I hope The Dark Knight is up next because I think it's the most overrated movie of the last decade. Both Tarantino and Nolan started off their careers impressively but their movies are garbage lately. I would say the same for Scorsese too. So, considering that those are the three most popular fanboy
I hated Inglorious Bastards a lot more than the writer of this article. That and Death Proof were by far the low point of Tarantino's career.

I think this is an excellent idea for a column. I hope The Dark Knight is up next because I think it's the most overrated movie of the last decade. Both Tarantino and Nolan started off their careers impressively but their movies are garbage lately. I would say the same for Scorsese too. So, considering that those are the three most popular fanboy directors, they would be good candidates for this column. I'm glad there's a column to represent actual critical analysis of these movies instead of the constant wankoff session between critics, fanboys,and these directors. It's annoying that people can't distinguish between the movies these guys USED to make and the shit they're making lately. I don't hate any of these directors and would like them to make a genuinely good movie again.
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4:52AM on 06/29/2010
Calling someone overrated does not make them so. YOU think their overrated, but numbers, critical praise, and fan praise speak very differently.

I always love it when someone brings up The Dark Knight, like they attack it simply because it's so popular. While you may not like these films, there's no denying they are good films directed by talented filmmakers. If you're going to attack someone, attack someone who is a terrible filmmaker but keeps making films...and films that people see.
Calling someone overrated does not make them so. YOU think their overrated, but numbers, critical praise, and fan praise speak very differently.

I always love it when someone brings up The Dark Knight, like they attack it simply because it's so popular. While you may not like these films, there's no denying they are good films directed by talented filmmakers. If you're going to attack someone, attack someone who is a terrible filmmaker but keeps making films...and films that people see. Michael Bay is a good example. The guy rarely makes a film that is of any worth, but people keep seeing them. If only we had more directors like Nolan working in Hollywood, maybe we'd have better films in our theaters.
2:32PM on 06/28/2010

Great Article

Finally after waiting for 9 months the Inglorious Basterd DVD had arrived from Netflix. I watched it with my dad who was also extremely interested in it as we know that there has been a lot of talk about it.
I could not agree more with every single thing you mentioned in this article except for the intro scene. I thought the intro scene was one of the best parts from the entire movie.
(Yes, I am a fan of QT also).
But when the Inglorious B's concluded my dad and I looked at each other and
Finally after waiting for 9 months the Inglorious Basterd DVD had arrived from Netflix. I watched it with my dad who was also extremely interested in it as we know that there has been a lot of talk about it.
I could not agree more with every single thing you mentioned in this article except for the intro scene. I thought the intro scene was one of the best parts from the entire movie.
(Yes, I am a fan of QT also).
But when the Inglorious B's concluded my dad and I looked at each other and said; overrated.
It is clearer now why "The Hurt Locker" won best picture of the year and not Inglorious Basterd's.
It's strange reading all the hate post below from all the QT die hard fan club.
Aaron is right that this movie could of been literally called something else as the crew of Inglorious Basterds took up all but 35% of the run-time and actual story. You cannot deny that this movie was clearly about Shoshanna's revenge against Hans and that the Inglorious B’s was just a side story.
Sure, I can keep writing on and clarify all the valid facts made Aaron, but in the end the psycho QT fan base will just bash us and say QT is a god.
The only thing I can think of that made all these QT fans go ape shit over the Inglorious Basterds was QT showed had them that there was still a little hope left in his directing skills. I am sure the QT fan base can remember a horrid piece of shit movie called “Death Proof”. Yes; even I can see that Inglorious B’s was miles better than that.
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2:29PM on 06/28/2010

One of the big complaints

Was that you never really got to know any of the basterds individually when they happened to be the title of the movie. Instead of turning them into full-fledged characters he "hacked" something that Leone did in Fisfull of Dynamite where the group was used more as a force of aggression then treating them like "the Dirty Dozen". Personally it doesn't bother me.
Was that you never really got to know any of the basterds individually when they happened to be the title of the movie. Instead of turning them into full-fledged characters he "hacked" something that Leone did in Fisfull of Dynamite where the group was used more as a force of aggression then treating them like "the Dirty Dozen". Personally it doesn't bother me.
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2:15PM on 06/28/2010
Absolutely right. QT has made the same film over and over again: the female revenge flick. So boring.
Absolutely right. QT has made the same film over and over again: the female revenge flick. So boring.
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2:11PM on 06/28/2010
I agree with everything apart from the Nazis=/Jews= bit. Why do we need to see that? We know the history, but not EVERYTHING is so black and white. The fact that the main antagonist was charming was a coup de tat.
I agree with everything apart from the Nazis=/Jews= bit. Why do we need to see that? We know the history, but not EVERYTHING is so black and white. The fact that the main antagonist was charming was a coup de tat.
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2:00PM on 06/28/2010

Finally

Someone gets it! Finally someone who isn't licking QT's balls just because they think it will make them cool to Film fans. This movie bored me to absolute tears. I never walk out of a film but good Lord I wanted to. It's pretentious. I would have actually preferred they called it something else, cut all of the basterds out and had the film about Landa and Shoshanna. Now that would have been a great film, which actually made sense and had cohesive story arcs, and a satisfying conclusion. Or we
Someone gets it! Finally someone who isn't licking QT's balls just because they think it will make them cool to Film fans. This movie bored me to absolute tears. I never walk out of a film but good Lord I wanted to. It's pretentious. I would have actually preferred they called it something else, cut all of the basterds out and had the film about Landa and Shoshanna. Now that would have been a great film, which actually made sense and had cohesive story arcs, and a satisfying conclusion. Or we could title the film "The Basterds" and not introduce half of them nor shall wee develop any of the characters, and then we can kill them without explaining their purpose at all! It'll be fun and then we can be nominated for awards that we know we're only getting because of our names and not because of any actual merit based in cinema at all! I love being a pretentious basterd.
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1:59PM on 06/28/2010

Agree

THANK YOU!! i completely agree with everything you said here. My friend kept singing the praises of this movie and told me I needed to see it. I finally sat down and watched it one day and was completely underwhelmed, and pretty much for all the reasons you stated. It wasn't a bad movie by any stretch of the imagination, but it was essentially a movie about Jews and Nazis having tense conversations.
THANK YOU!! i completely agree with everything you said here. My friend kept singing the praises of this movie and told me I needed to see it. I finally sat down and watched it one day and was completely underwhelmed, and pretty much for all the reasons you stated. It wasn't a bad movie by any stretch of the imagination, but it was essentially a movie about Jews and Nazis having tense conversations.
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1:57PM on 06/28/2010
It is a good film, but certainly not his best as people like to claim. Some scenes do run a touch too long (the card game/Mexican standoff scene comes to mind plus the whole Fredrik Zoller courting Shoshanna plot)but in the end I just cannot call it his best. This movie took multiple watches before I started to like it (and I say like, not love), with his other films it was love at first sight.
It is a good film, but certainly not his best as people like to claim. Some scenes do run a touch too long (the card game/Mexican standoff scene comes to mind plus the whole Fredrik Zoller courting Shoshanna plot)but in the end I just cannot call it his best. This movie took multiple watches before I started to like it (and I say like, not love), with his other films it was love at first sight.
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1:56PM on 06/28/2010

Finally

Someone gets it! Finally someone who isn't licking QT's balls just because they think it will make them cool to Film fans. This movie bored me to absolute tears. I never walk out of a film but good Lord I wanted to. It's pretentious. I would have actually preferred they called it something else, cut all of the basterds out and had the film about Landa and Shoshanna. Now that would have been a great film, which actually made sense and had cohesive story arcs, and a satisfying conclusion. Or we
Someone gets it! Finally someone who isn't licking QT's balls just because they think it will make them cool to Film fans. This movie bored me to absolute tears. I never walk out of a film but good Lord I wanted to. It's pretentious. I would have actually preferred they called it something else, cut all of the basterds out and had the film about Landa and Shoshanna. Now that would have been a great film, which actually made sense and had cohesive story arcs, and a satisfying conclusion. Or we could title the film "The Basterds" and not introduce half of them nor shall wee develop any of the characters, and then we can kill them without explaining their purpose at all! It'll be fun and then we can be nominated for awards that we know we're only getting because of our names and not because of any actual merit based in cinema at all! I love being a pretentious basterd.
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1:55PM on 06/28/2010
Again, my main problem is that people are judging this movie based on what they WANTED it to be, rather than what it is. If you want to review a movie, EVER, you have to review it based on what it IS. Maybe you'll calm down in a few years, when your rage has settled. For now, it just sounds like someone pooped in your cheerios.
Again, my main problem is that people are judging this movie based on what they WANTED it to be, rather than what it is. If you want to review a movie, EVER, you have to review it based on what it IS. Maybe you'll calm down in a few years, when your rage has settled. For now, it just sounds like someone pooped in your cheerios.
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1:54PM on 06/28/2010
Again, my main problem is that people are judging this movie based on what they WANTED it to be, rather than what it is. If you want to review a movie, EVER, you have to review it based on what it IS. Maybe you'll calm down in a few years, when your rage has settled. For now, it just sounds like someone pooped in your cheerios.
Again, my main problem is that people are judging this movie based on what they WANTED it to be, rather than what it is. If you want to review a movie, EVER, you have to review it based on what it IS. Maybe you'll calm down in a few years, when your rage has settled. For now, it just sounds like someone pooped in your cheerios.
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2:17PM on 06/28/2010
you're 100% right. and have you noticed the people who dont like the film just come off as angry? they site "fanboys" and QT groupies as the reason people heap praise on it.
I am neither of those and this was my favorite film of 09.
you're 100% right. and have you noticed the people who dont like the film just come off as angry? they site "fanboys" and QT groupies as the reason people heap praise on it.
I am neither of those and this was my favorite film of 09.
3:54PM on 06/28/2010
Yeah! I like 3 QT movies, so I can't be considered a "QT Fanboy." I just recognize the brilliance of IB.
Yeah! I like 3 QT movies, so I can't be considered a "QT Fanboy." I just recognize the brilliance of IB.
1:48PM on 06/28/2010
lol good article but i'm not on board with ya on this one!
lol good article but i'm not on board with ya on this one!
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1:41PM on 06/28/2010
I completely disagree with your criticisms, but hey that's the point of the article.

I feel like you should do an article about a film that ACTUALLY WON the Oscar that was supremely and bewilderingly overrated: Crash. Now that's the biggest piece of shit that's ever won that award with overflowing plot and character issues.
I completely disagree with your criticisms, but hey that's the point of the article.

I feel like you should do an article about a film that ACTUALLY WON the Oscar that was supremely and bewilderingly overrated: Crash. Now that's the biggest piece of shit that's ever won that award with overflowing plot and character issues.
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1:52PM on 06/28/2010
ya know, I actually was considering taking that one on! The problem is, it promotes a good message (sorta) so I'd feel bad knockin' it. Ya never know though. Thanks for the suggestion.
ya know, I actually was considering taking that one on! The problem is, it promotes a good message (sorta) so I'd feel bad knockin' it. Ya never know though. Thanks for the suggestion.
2:04PM on 06/28/2010
Thank you! CRASH was such SHIT!
Thank you! CRASH was such SHIT!
3:20PM on 06/28/2010
FUCK Crash
FUCK Crash
3:51PM on 06/28/2010
Crash was shit. not THE shit. just SHIT.
Crash was shit. not THE shit. just SHIT.
3:58PM on 06/28/2010
Only problem is, the "unpopular" opinion would be someone who LIKED Crash. I don't know anybody who does.
Only problem is, the "unpopular" opinion would be someone who LIKED Crash. I don't know anybody who does.
6:56PM on 06/28/2010
Haha okay. So everybody's on the same page for that one. I think it's mostly 40-60 year old misinformed adult that think Crash is realistic. As a Los Angeles native, I can safely say Crash is in no way a realistic portrayal of Los Angeles.
Haha okay. So everybody's on the same page for that one. I think it's mostly 40-60 year old misinformed adult that think Crash is realistic. As a Los Angeles native, I can safely say Crash is in no way a realistic portrayal of Los Angeles.
1:23PM on 06/28/2010
I didn't love the movie either, but my biggest problem with the film was actually The Basterds. Without them, this could have been his greatest film!
I didn't love the movie either, but my biggest problem with the film was actually The Basterds. Without them, this could have been his greatest film!
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1:12PM on 06/28/2010
Sure there were things I would have liked to have seen more and less of, but overall I thought this was an awesome and entertaining flick!
Sure there were things I would have liked to have seen more and less of, but overall I thought this was an awesome and entertaining flick!
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1:00PM on 06/28/2010

Bad Joblo! Bad!

I LOVED the first sequence; it's easily the best scene of the entire film. Shoshanna’s story kept me glued to the screen and I applauded Tarantino’s audacity to allow the characters to speak in their native tongues (and I was grateful that her revenge wasn’t of the fetishistic “getting beat up by a girl” variety like in Death Proof), but every time the film’s focus shifted to Pitt and his cartoonish basterds I got bored (I actually dozed off during the scene with the baseball bat). Bad Joblo!
I LOVED the first sequence; it's easily the best scene of the entire film. Shoshanna’s story kept me glued to the screen and I applauded Tarantino’s audacity to allow the characters to speak in their native tongues (and I was grateful that her revenge wasn’t of the fetishistic “getting beat up by a girl” variety like in Death Proof), but every time the film’s focus shifted to Pitt and his cartoonish basterds I got bored (I actually dozed off during the scene with the baseball bat). Bad Joblo! Bad! *spanks*
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1:55PM on 06/28/2010
Well JoBlo didn't write this..
Well JoBlo didn't write this..
11:02AM on 06/29/2010
My bad! I was already wondering why JoBlo had suddenly turned into a shitty writer.
My bad! I was already wondering why JoBlo had suddenly turned into a shitty writer.
12:57PM on 06/28/2010

I really liked IB

And I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like the movie you wanted: having a bunch of Jews beating up the Nazis may make a good selling point but as a concept, it can give nothing better than a b-movie, even directed by QT. This was never meant to be The Expandables visit WWII.
And I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like the movie you wanted: having a bunch of Jews beating up the Nazis may make a good selling point but as a concept, it can give nothing better than a b-movie, even directed by QT. This was never meant to be The Expandables visit WWII.
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12:55PM on 06/28/2010

Hmmmmm.....

Good article but I think your issues are for all the wrong reasons. I too was caught off-gaurd while watching the film because I expected another Kill Bill type blood-fest but with Nazis. And while that sounds like an awesome idea, every Tarantino film is it's own beast and completely different than the rest and Basterds is no different. It's still got the quirk that all his films have but he is much more focused on the characters in this film.

The only thing that hinders the film imo is
Good article but I think your issues are for all the wrong reasons. I too was caught off-gaurd while watching the film because I expected another Kill Bill type blood-fest but with Nazis. And while that sounds like an awesome idea, every Tarantino film is it's own beast and completely different than the rest and Basterds is no different. It's still got the quirk that all his films have but he is much more focused on the characters in this film.

The only thing that hinders the film imo is that it feels too short. It feels like a 3 hour plus epic cut down to 2.5 hours and in that regard the film feels a little rushed and not as epic as it should have. After adjusting my expectations and re-watching the film, it's actually a really good flick, it just doesn't quite reach the levels of Tarantino's earlier work. Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill are his best but this is a close third.
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12:37PM on 06/28/2010
I liked the movie but didn't think it was that great. I was expecting a lot of dialogue, but far more action/violence. oh well.
I liked the movie but didn't think it was that great. I was expecting a lot of dialogue, but far more action/violence. oh well.
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12:29PM on 06/28/2010

Word

The one thing that really bugged me is that during the baseball bat scene, they introduce one of the Bastards in a 70's Blaxploitation way, complete with huge funky letters across the screen of his name and soul music. It totally didn't fit with the rest of the movie, plus, who was that guy? What did he do?
It was totally weird, I thought- bugged the shit out of me. Don't get me started on his retarded dialogue where everyone is an expert on cool trivia and has a speech rehearsed on each
The one thing that really bugged me is that during the baseball bat scene, they introduce one of the Bastards in a 70's Blaxploitation way, complete with huge funky letters across the screen of his name and soul music. It totally didn't fit with the rest of the movie, plus, who was that guy? What did he do?
It was totally weird, I thought- bugged the shit out of me. Don't get me started on his retarded dialogue where everyone is an expert on cool trivia and has a speech rehearsed on each subject- stupid.
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12:27PM on 06/28/2010
THANK YOU!
THANK YOU!
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12:27PM on 06/28/2010

Yes!

Love this article and agree with it completely.
Love this article and agree with it completely.
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12:17PM on 06/28/2010

Agreed

I am a huge Tarantino fan. Pulp Fiction is definitely in my top 5. And I was left wanting more from Basterds. Honestly, I didn't get any Tarantino vibe from the film at all. I loved Pitt, as always. And I did like the movie. I just didn't love it. Where I usually buy and watch QT films over and over. I only rented this one and have only seen it once.
I am a huge Tarantino fan. Pulp Fiction is definitely in my top 5. And I was left wanting more from Basterds. Honestly, I didn't get any Tarantino vibe from the film at all. I loved Pitt, as always. And I did like the movie. I just didn't love it. Where I usually buy and watch QT films over and over. I only rented this one and have only seen it once.
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12:17PM on 06/28/2010
I was glad the movie was nothing like the trailer. I agree about the beginning of the movie and I think all it lacked to make it a true master piece was an epic battle scene, something of that nature is definitely needed somewhere in the middle.
I was glad the movie was nothing like the trailer. I agree about the beginning of the movie and I think all it lacked to make it a true master piece was an epic battle scene, something of that nature is definitely needed somewhere in the middle.
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11:54AM on 06/28/2010

Not sure if I agree with your take

But I do think this movie lacked the "Inglorious Basterds". The first parts of the movie with them in it makes you think they'll be roaming around Germany killing lots of Germans. Unfortunately it got completely side-tracked with a less-exciting story. And although the ending and beginning are certainly memorable, the writers dropped the ball by focusing too little on the IBs themselves
But I do think this movie lacked the "Inglorious Basterds". The first parts of the movie with them in it makes you think they'll be roaming around Germany killing lots of Germans. Unfortunately it got completely side-tracked with a less-exciting story. And although the ending and beginning are certainly memorable, the writers dropped the ball by focusing too little on the IBs themselves
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11:52AM on 06/28/2010

Interesting....

Well you're certainly entitled to your opinion....(wrong as it is...lol, j/k).

Essentially what I got from your article is that Tarantino made a sophisticated, artful, "foreign" film while you wanted a mindless Bayhem "American" film with explosions, no subtlety, no atmosphere, everything spelled out for you, etc...

Don't complain when that's all Hollywood feeds you. Don't lament when the studios cater to the LCD. Quick cuts, little to no character development, no sophistication in
Well you're certainly entitled to your opinion....(wrong as it is...lol, j/k).

Essentially what I got from your article is that Tarantino made a sophisticated, artful, "foreign" film while you wanted a mindless Bayhem "American" film with explosions, no subtlety, no atmosphere, everything spelled out for you, etc...

Don't complain when that's all Hollywood feeds you. Don't lament when the studios cater to the LCD. Quick cuts, little to no character development, no sophistication in story-form or story-telling, no foreign languages (we don't want to read movies and use any gray matter after all right?)

This is what you are asking for, so don't bitch when all you get is Bayhem infected Megan Fox smeared runoff. That's what you want!
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12:33PM on 06/28/2010
hey Rogue, thanks for the feedback, but you're wrong about my expectations. As noted, I LOVE QT, because he is the anti Michael Bay. So no i didn't want a mindless action flick. I wanted an intelligent one. I don't NEED action from QT (Pulp Fiction is my fav of his) but he showed with Kill Bill that he could make an awesome, INTELLIGENT action revenge film, and this film seemed like the perfect setting for that.
hey Rogue, thanks for the feedback, but you're wrong about my expectations. As noted, I LOVE QT, because he is the anti Michael Bay. So no i didn't want a mindless action flick. I wanted an intelligent one. I don't NEED action from QT (Pulp Fiction is my fav of his) but he showed with Kill Bill that he could make an awesome, INTELLIGENT action revenge film, and this film seemed like the perfect setting for that.
12:37PM on 06/28/2010
why does an action film have to be mindless? Do you feel Kill Bill fit that mold? It certainly doesn't. My fav action film of last year was District 9.
why does an action film have to be mindless? Do you feel Kill Bill fit that mold? It certainly doesn't. My fav action film of last year was District 9.
2:10PM on 06/28/2010
I do feel that Kill Bill is mindless. There's a 30 minute cut-and-slash scene with no "thought" behind it at all. It doesn't become "thoughtful" until that final scene with Bill.
I do feel that Kill Bill is mindless. There's a 30 minute cut-and-slash scene with no "thought" behind it at all. It doesn't become "thoughtful" until that final scene with Bill.
4:58AM on 06/29/2010
I'm in agreement. I'm not sure what about Kill Bill was intelligent. It was an excellent homage to old kung-fu flicks, western flicks, revenge flicks, etc. But, I'm not sure what about it was intelligent. I guess you'll have to elaborate on that one.
I'm in agreement. I'm not sure what about Kill Bill was intelligent. It was an excellent homage to old kung-fu flicks, western flicks, revenge flicks, etc. But, I'm not sure what about it was intelligent. I guess you'll have to elaborate on that one.
11:49AM on 06/28/2010

Yeah, only thing I criticize . . .

. . . is Eli Roth. Can't stand him or his work (minus the Thanksgiving trailer) but was prepared to overlook his involvement in Basterds, if he impressed me. Turned out his acting was horrendous and that bat to the head scene just seemed shoe-horned in to appease those who want every Tarantino flick to be a "traditional" Tarantino flick. Other than Roth, this movie kicks all kinds of ass . . .
. . . is Eli Roth. Can't stand him or his work (minus the Thanksgiving trailer) but was prepared to overlook his involvement in Basterds, if he impressed me. Turned out his acting was horrendous and that bat to the head scene just seemed shoe-horned in to appease those who want every Tarantino flick to be a "traditional" Tarantino flick. Other than Roth, this movie kicks all kinds of ass . . .
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11:41AM on 06/28/2010

ummmm

I agree on some things and disagree on more, but yeah, I would love to see the movie that the trailer promised, namely a whole basterds adventure, which everybody can agree that QT would knock out of the park. Also, Pitt WAS great, and Eli Roth was pretty annoying.
I agree on some things and disagree on more, but yeah, I would love to see the movie that the trailer promised, namely a whole basterds adventure, which everybody can agree that QT would knock out of the park. Also, Pitt WAS great, and Eli Roth was pretty annoying.
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11:39AM on 06/28/2010
So in essence, you saw the trailer, were all jazzed up for a movie full of Nazi-destroying massacres by the Basterds, and were let down by a film full of drama, tension, and plot. Yep, I guess it wasn't for you.
So in essence, you saw the trailer, were all jazzed up for a movie full of Nazi-destroying massacres by the Basterds, and were let down by a film full of drama, tension, and plot. Yep, I guess it wasn't for you.
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11:38AM on 06/28/2010
Although I don't agree with all of the statements here, I agree that Basterds didn't wow me either. I just think that QT needs to learn to actually edit his movies these days.
Although I don't agree with all of the statements here, I agree that Basterds didn't wow me either. I just think that QT needs to learn to actually edit his movies these days.
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11:37AM on 06/28/2010

I get it, possibly.

I actually like Inglourious Basterds a lot. Definitely liked it better than Kill Bill and Death Proof. Not saying they were bad though. I think Basterds delivered though. What I read from the article though is the main problem is you saw the trailer and it didn’t match the movie. Well, I have a semi-lengthy reason why that may be.

The Weinstein’s left Miramax in 2005 and made Weinstein Films the same year, which they also brought over their Dimension films division. They also had struck
I actually like Inglourious Basterds a lot. Definitely liked it better than Kill Bill and Death Proof. Not saying they were bad though. I think Basterds delivered though. What I read from the article though is the main problem is you saw the trailer and it didn’t match the movie. Well, I have a semi-lengthy reason why that may be.

The Weinstein’s left Miramax in 2005 and made Weinstein Films the same year, which they also brought over their Dimension films division. They also had struck deals with MGM. The last Tarantino project Kill Bill, altogether, netted them 213 million in the end. The budget for both of them being 60 million and the films together ended up making 273 million. After they left Miramax and the time leading up to Grindhouse, the Weinstein’s biggest film was Scary Movie 4 in 2006 under their Dimension division, which cost them 45 million to make and got 178 million at the box office. The Weinstein’s probably were hoping that Grindhouse would be a ‘blockbuster’ for them. I mean it had Robert Rodriguez and Quentin Tarantino as directors. Unfortunately it only made 50 million and it cost 53 million to make. Their biggest movie between Grindhouse and Ingloruious Basterds was 1408 in 2007, which was made for 22 million and made 132 million making them a profit of 110 million. Why did I give all this information? They’re last big movie between Kill Bill and Grindhouse was Bridget Jones Diary: Edge of Reason in 2004, which brought in 222 million. They thought Rodriguez and Tarantino were going to make them money with Grindhouse – the Weinstein’s let them do what they wanted. And they ended up losing money. Around 3 million in the box office. An underperformance. So when Tarantino told them he wanted to ‘remake’ a 1978 Italian war film they probably had their doubts. The Weinsteins did what most Studios would do, they cut a trailer that make the movie seem like a full-blown action movie. Which a lot of people wanted to see a movie like that from Tarantino. When audiences watched the movie they realized it wasn’t a full on action movie but it was good enough to keep them in the seats. The point is your main argument is that the trailer didn’t fit the movie, from my point of view. Studios do that all the time. Trailers even have parts that aren’t in the movie. The Weinsteins more than likely had them cut the trailer like that, it was a gamble but it paid off in the amount of a 260 million box office. In the end it’s mostly about money. Or a lot about money.

We’re in the age of DVDs. They always save the ‘uncut’, ‘directors cut’, ‘unrated’, and ‘re-mastered’ versions of the films for DVD release.
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11:25AM on 06/28/2010

Dreadful

Wont be reading any of these articles again...
Wont be reading any of these articles again...
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11:22AM on 06/28/2010
Removing Shosanna and adding more Basterd mayhem would have made it The Expendables in Germany... did you see the Basterds? They're not Stallone... they're average human beings.

What I will say though is that the opening farm scene was maybe the best scene of 2009 and you shot it down and tore it to shreds like it was the racist robots from Transformers 2.. just.. what were you thinking?
Removing Shosanna and adding more Basterd mayhem would have made it The Expendables in Germany... did you see the Basterds? They're not Stallone... they're average human beings.

What I will say though is that the opening farm scene was maybe the best scene of 2009 and you shot it down and tore it to shreds like it was the racist robots from Transformers 2.. just.. what were you thinking?
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11:09AM on 06/28/2010

Thank you Aaron!

It's nice to see a real, unbiased opinion of Basterds on JoBlo! I thought I was the only Schmoe that DIDN'T think this was the greatest movie ever! JoBlo.com was practically [link] for almost a year leading up to the films release. I'm a fan of Q.T. and he's an amazing director, but I.B. was maybe his 3rd best film. Christopher Waltz was the obvious highlight and totally deserved the Oscar! I was just expecting more from the film which was waaaay too talky and the ending sucked.
It's nice to see a real, unbiased opinion of Basterds on JoBlo! I thought I was the only Schmoe that DIDN'T think this was the greatest movie ever! JoBlo.com was practically [link] for almost a year leading up to the films release. I'm a fan of Q.T. and he's an amazing director, but I.B. was maybe his 3rd best film. Christopher Waltz was the obvious highlight and totally deserved the Oscar! I was just expecting more from the film which was waaaay too talky and the ending sucked.
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2:48PM on 06/28/2010
you're welcome ;)
you're welcome ;)
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11:06AM on 06/28/2010

Thank you Aaron!

It's nice to see a real, unbiased opinion of Basterds on JoBlo! I thought I was the only Schmoe that DIDN'T think this was the greatest movie ever! JoBlo.com was practically [link] for almost a year leading up to the films release. I'm a fan of Q.T. and he's an amazing director, but I.B. was maybe his 3rd best film. Christopher Waltz was the obvious highlight and totally deserved the Oscar! I was just expecting more from the film which was waaaay too talky and the ending sucked.
It's nice to see a real, unbiased opinion of Basterds on JoBlo! I thought I was the only Schmoe that DIDN'T think this was the greatest movie ever! JoBlo.com was practically [link] for almost a year leading up to the films release. I'm a fan of Q.T. and he's an amazing director, but I.B. was maybe his 3rd best film. Christopher Waltz was the obvious highlight and totally deserved the Oscar! I was just expecting more from the film which was waaaay too talky and the ending sucked.
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11:00AM on 06/28/2010
I really do like the idea of this column. However I think you've failed in your attempt to get us worked up. Why? Because you have only one argument, and that is, essentially, that there isn't enough action. Disliking a performance doesn't feel like enough of a reason to have a column about it. And picking on the film references just shows that you're not taking in most of what the film is about.

We're shown many facets of many kinds of people. The outcome of this movie is fictional yet
I really do like the idea of this column. However I think you've failed in your attempt to get us worked up. Why? Because you have only one argument, and that is, essentially, that there isn't enough action. Disliking a performance doesn't feel like enough of a reason to have a column about it. And picking on the film references just shows that you're not taking in most of what the film is about.

We're shown many facets of many kinds of people. The outcome of this movie is fictional yet completely true. Poetically true. We learn to understand why we hate the nazi's as opposed to just relying on our built in hatred for them. Sure it's enough to say they're evil. But that's easy and anyone can make that movie. In fact that have a hundred times over. There are plenty of fun ways to see Nazi's killed if that's what you want, but that's probably better left to a future instalment of the Saw franchise.

However, I guess it's fair to say that I was surprised by the lack of violence and nazi killling myself. I just found the movie to be a more rewarding and much smarter film than I had anticipated. I was expecting another Kill Bill kind of fun romp. Instead I came out with so much more.

I don't think you have enough to back up your arguments aside from personal taste and opinion. Which is fine. I guess that is what this article is about. But I think if this column is to continue it might be best to have stronger facts and arguments and perhaps aim to shed some light on your topic at hand as opposed to just stating taste. It would make the article more rewarding for readers and information, especially in a positive manner is a good thing. Otherwise it's just an article saying you find something boring. Maybe next time stand up for a movie as opposed to try taking it down.
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11:43AM on 06/28/2010
This guy knows his shit.
This guy knows his shit.
10:59AM on 06/28/2010
So the Oscar Caliber brilliantly written, fantastically tense and sardonic nearly original "IB" gets blasted but "Kill Bill" that's only a compilation of pop culture without a shred of originality or creativity is one of his greats? Well the article certainly lives up to its name.

Tarantino is too talky. Next thing you'll complain a Romero movie has too many zombies. Wow.

I won't dignify this article with an argument since YOU'VE failed to present one of your own.
So the Oscar Caliber brilliantly written, fantastically tense and sardonic nearly original "IB" gets blasted but "Kill Bill" that's only a compilation of pop culture without a shred of originality or creativity is one of his greats? Well the article certainly lives up to its name.

Tarantino is too talky. Next thing you'll complain a Romero movie has too many zombies. Wow.

I won't dignify this article with an argument since YOU'VE failed to present one of your own.
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2:42PM on 06/28/2010
Completely agreed!
Completely agreed!
10:54AM on 06/28/2010
I like the movie but I agree that it was a bit talky at times. I only wish there were more action scenes but the movie itself is a good one.
I like the movie but I agree that it was a bit talky at times. I only wish there were more action scenes but the movie itself is a good one.
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10:52AM on 06/28/2010
I like the movie but I agree that it was a bit talky at times. I only wish there were more action scenes but the movie itself is a good one.
I like the movie but I agree that it was a bit talky at times. I only wish there were more action scenes but the movie itself is a good one.
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10:51AM on 06/28/2010

Fav film of 09

This movie and Watchmen were tied as my favorite of last year but i eventually had to give it to Inglorious for being so well written and its Tarantino's masterpeice. Its what every director wants to make in their lifetime. And nevermind the fantastic script and acting, how about the top notch realistic special effects for the violence. My jaw dropped everytime. Taratino really wanted to get as close as you can get to realistic sounds, textures, and reactions of people getting shot, choked, or
This movie and Watchmen were tied as my favorite of last year but i eventually had to give it to Inglorious for being so well written and its Tarantino's masterpeice. Its what every director wants to make in their lifetime. And nevermind the fantastic script and acting, how about the top notch realistic special effects for the violence. My jaw dropped everytime. Taratino really wanted to get as close as you can get to realistic sounds, textures, and reactions of people getting shot, choked, or hit across the face with a louisville.
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10:48AM on 06/28/2010

gotcha

i gotta agree with most of this article the opening scene was great but drawn out the article didnt say the scene was bad just went on a bit too long i felt that way a lot during the movie i keep thinking in my head ok when are the bastards going to do something?? and it never really happend just more talk about cream on pie and sitting in a bar for a 20 min discussion that really could have been 5
i gotta agree with most of this article the opening scene was great but drawn out the article didnt say the scene was bad just went on a bit too long i felt that way a lot during the movie i keep thinking in my head ok when are the bastards going to do something?? and it never really happend just more talk about cream on pie and sitting in a bar for a 20 min discussion that really could have been 5
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10:47AM on 06/28/2010

Unpopular Opinion needs to stop.

This segment is just trying to hard. It becomes moronic in just the first complaint about the first scene.

Boo hoo, you wanted an action movie and got something else. Cry some more but don't call it an opinion.
This segment is just trying to hard. It becomes moronic in just the first complaint about the first scene.

Boo hoo, you wanted an action movie and got something else. Cry some more but don't call it an opinion.
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