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The UnPopular Opinion: Miami Vice

Feb. 15, 2012by: Alejandro Stepenberg

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THE UNPOPULAR OPINION is an ongoing column featuring different takes on films that either the writer HATED, but that the majority of film fans LOVED, or that the writer LOVED, but that most others LOATHED. We're hoping this column will promote constructive and geek fueled discussion. Enjoy!

MIAMI VICE is my very favorite Michael Mann movie.  Even with often being ranked by fans as one of his worst, every time I watch something made by Mann (and I've seen them all) I find myself in the mood to watch MIAMI VICE again.  Which got me thinking: I've seen MIAMI VICE seven times now and still love it.  So what's going on? Why does a movie with a 47% rating on Rotten Tomatoes strike me so deeply? In pursuit of an answer I watched it again, and I'm starting to think I may know now.  So if you've got the time, let's discuss some crime!

Miami Vice boats

"Do you wanna f*** my partner or do you wanna do business with us? 'Cause I don't give a shit how you think he looks."

Let's first talk characters, as that's the area in which most critics of the movie seem to say MIAMI VICE is lacking.  To me what's going on is not that these characters are weak or two dimensional, but rather that their objectives and motivations are just very simple in a way stories often seem to lack.  Their desires and fears, their objectives and the routes they choose to achieve those objectives - it's all direct and to the point.   No more and no less than any other Mann film, be it ALI or LAST OF THE MOHICANS.

Ricardo and Sonny constantly show that what they care about is the welfare of others - no doubt it's why they're cops.  They just have different ways in which they show that care, and it is that care from which any other character detail springs.  Within the first seven minutes of the film we see Ricardo willing to delay the operation at hand in order to protect a call girl who is being beat up by her pimp, just as how in COLLATERAL's beginning we learn about Max's dreams and what they mean to him.  Likewise with Sonny - in the opening moments of the film, when he gets a call from a past informant saying that things have gone all wrong and he is in some serious trouble, Sonny loses no time in trying to do whatever he can to help the man.  You could argue that this is what any good policeman would do for the sake of an asset, but Sonny's attitude towards both punishing those responsible and (later) protecting the woman he has fallen in love with remains constant and impassioned throughout the whole of the film.

Yes, it's true that some of the other characters are significantly less fleshed out - even after seven viewings I still don't know the names of several characters, and Yero gets one of the most boring introductions for a villain in recent film history.  But the main two, the ones whose actions and intentions fundamentally drive the film? I do believe that they're very much there.  We know all we need to know about them, with nothing extraneous being thrown into the mix.

Miami Vice red city background

"Things go wrong. The odds catch up. Probability is like gravity: you cannot negotiate with gravity."

MIAMI VICE is also damn beautiful to look at, though you're right in thinking this alone is not enough.  It's not just a matter of how pretty the film is (my face when I watched it on Blu Ray) - what matters is how the shots, color, framing, and camera work serve the story and the characters.  Which is something this movie does every bit as well as any other movie Mann has made.  As an example: the picture above is from a scene where Ricardo and Sonny are talking to the FBI agent responsible for their old informant, when all of a sudden there is this shot that shows the city of Miami represented by a sea of white and red spots that paint the sky a faint blood red.  It's Mann's way, just as can be seen with other filmmakers like Terrence Malick, of using the environment of a film to tell us all we need to know about the characters and their state of being.

There's something else that can be seen in the above picture that is an ever present element in the way MIAMI VICE is shot: Mann makes it a point to almost always place the main players in a scene on one or both sides of every shot, thereby making sure that the world these characters live in is as much a character in and of itself.  He takes full advantage of the breadth of his audience's vision, filling the entire screen with visual cues and information as living characters navigate a world that, due to Mann's camera work and a kind of picture composition that serves to direct the energy of our focus, is constantly alive and in motion.  He has an awareness in this movie of how human action reflects on the world, and that world's importance in the lives of those living in it.

Miami Vice boats and bridges

"Thats not what happens. What will happen is... what will happen is I will put a round at twenty-seven hundred feet per second into the medulla at the base of your brain. And you will be dead from the neck down before your body knows it. Your finger wont even twitch. Only you get dead. So tell me, sport, do you believe that?"

Because this is a Michael Mann movie you know the soundtrack is going to be something special, and here to is a way in which MIAMI VICE delivers better than almost any other of Mann's movies (except for maybe HEAT).  Each song has a different resonance in relation to its place in the film, and each song perfectly melds with the mood of the moment.  The soundtrack is a master class in what soundtracks should always do - both support and elevate the visuals.  A Rabbi once said: "the purpose of poetry is to stretch words, and the purpose of music is to do what words cannot."  Mann knows this intimately, and proves so by how his choices of songs and music speak volumes about both the scenes in which they appear and what will happen in time to the characters involved in those scenes.  See his use of Moby's "One of These Mornings" for a perfect example of this.  It's completely relevant to the moment, is a great song in and of itself, and tells us a great deal about the relationship between Sonny and Isabella.

Beyond even all that I've said, I'd argue that while the story suffers pacing problems around midway (Sonny's visit to Cuba definitely drags) the last half an hour or so is particularly well paced.  New elements and events and conditions are layered on as Mann ratchets up the tension and human connection to those events.  This is all amped up to another level by the camera work during the final shootout - a stable kind of "shakycam" (I know it sounds oxymoronic) is used to bring a motion and earnestness to the field in ways that other similar movies fail to do, moving organically to show us the breadth of the battlefield and help us to experience the fight just as the combatants do.  Speaking of pacing, I think it is fair to say that at a runtime of 2:20 the movie could stand to lose about fifteen minutes - the script should probably have just been tightened all around, with bits and pieces trimmed all over as not to lose 1) what is established about the characters in the beginning and 2) the carefully-constructed escalation of the ending.

MIAMI VICE is, to me, the ultimate combination of "slice of life film" and "traditional plot-driven film."  This is one case out of many for Ricardo and Sonny, and as Sonny shows by how he leaves Isabella at the end to return to Rciardo and Trudy at the hospital, life goes on.  Vice yet remains in Miami, morally-challenged men still spread their operations across the world, and Ricardo and Sonny will continue to do their jobs until the day they die.

Miami Vice graffiti face

"I'm gonna tell you what's gonna happen. People are gonna come in here, and you know what they gonna say? They gonna look around and go 'Ola Hijo. That's some crazy motherfucking wallpaper, what is that? Jackson Pollock?'"

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1:46AM on 11/01/2012

Ugh.

I remain unconvinced. I thought it was crap and I'm glad I waited until it was released on DVD to check it out. Even then I could barely sit through it.
I remain unconvinced. I thought it was crap and I'm glad I waited until it was released on DVD to check it out. Even then I could barely sit through it.
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1:20AM on 10/31/2012

It's okay

It's an okay movie. It doesn't deserve all the hate it gets. But it's not bad.
It's an okay movie. It doesn't deserve all the hate it gets. But it's not bad.
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4:59AM on 02/17/2012
one of the more spot on Unpopulars on here & makes me want to rewatch it once again. While Public Enemies was very disappointing to me especially being a huge fan of gangster flicks Mann has not made a bad film in his career. I would not rank Miami Vice higher than Heat, Last if the Mohicans or even Collateral though
one of the more spot on Unpopulars on here & makes me want to rewatch it once again. While Public Enemies was very disappointing to me especially being a huge fan of gangster flicks Mann has not made a bad film in his career. I would not rank Miami Vice higher than Heat, Last if the Mohicans or even Collateral though
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9:04PM on 02/16/2012
this is my favorite michael mann film! I LOVE this movie! so gritty, real, Beautiful cinematography! the violence is so raw! just all around a really good flick
this is my favorite michael mann film! I LOVE this movie! so gritty, real, Beautiful cinematography! the violence is so raw! just all around a really good flick
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7:46PM on 02/16/2012

Damn Well Written

I greatly enjoy about 90% of this movie. My biggest complainant is how damned confusing everything is in the beginning during their first mission- I don't know these characters,their mission, or why they're doing what they do. It leaves a sour taste in my mouth. With that being said, once the main plot kicks in, this film is superb. It's my third favorite Mann flick overall, and is probably his best looking one. I do hate "Public Enemies" though.
I greatly enjoy about 90% of this movie. My biggest complainant is how damned confusing everything is in the beginning during their first mission- I don't know these characters,their mission, or why they're doing what they do. It leaves a sour taste in my mouth. With that being said, once the main plot kicks in, this film is superb. It's my third favorite Mann flick overall, and is probably his best looking one. I do hate "Public Enemies" though.
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7:45PM on 02/16/2012
I LOVE this movie. I much prefered it too Public Enemies and at times it reflects on the good points in HEAT. I LOVE this movie as far as technically, visually, and thematically. I dont understand the disappointments people had
I LOVE this movie. I much prefered it too Public Enemies and at times it reflects on the good points in HEAT. I LOVE this movie as far as technically, visually, and thematically. I dont understand the disappointments people had
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8:34AM on 02/16/2012
Finally! Someone else out there who agrees. I love this film so much it's pathetic. Effortlessly cool.
Finally! Someone else out there who agrees. I love this film so much it's pathetic. Effortlessly cool.
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9:22PM on 02/15/2012
I also agree with NiteOwl, I may have to rewatch this movie. I remember seeing it when it came out years ago, but I distinctly also remember writing it off for the terrible dialogue and predictable plot. However being a fan of the original tv series I should probably re-watch this.

That being said, if any of you think Miami Vice is better than Heat... you are retarded.
I also agree with NiteOwl, I may have to rewatch this movie. I remember seeing it when it came out years ago, but I distinctly also remember writing it off for the terrible dialogue and predictable plot. However being a fan of the original tv series I should probably re-watch this.

That being said, if any of you think Miami Vice is better than Heat... you are retarded.
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9:49PM on 02/15/2012
I would say that Heat is, at the end of the day, his best work. That being said, I still find Miami Vice my favorite to just sit down and watch. If that makes sense?
I would say that Heat is, at the end of the day, his best work. That being said, I still find Miami Vice my favorite to just sit down and watch. If that makes sense?
8:28PM on 02/15/2012

Boring!!!!!

It wasn't that bad but I was disappointed. It was just too slow barely any excitement. It didn't need to be non stop action but damn I never fall asleep in theaters but I almost did with this film.
It wasn't that bad but I was disappointed. It was just too slow barely any excitement. It didn't need to be non stop action but damn I never fall asleep in theaters but I almost did with this film.
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8:12PM on 02/15/2012

Mann's the Man

Ah, now we're getting somewhere with this feature. One of the more well-written and insightful ones to be posted, actually.
It's funny, I had thought about proposing an UNPOPULAR OPINION for this film and Public Enemies, as I thought I was the only one who hadn't jumped on the "Michael Mann hasn't made a good film since Ali" bandwagon. I see it isn't the case. Others have already said it better than me, but I dug Miami Vice when it came out, and always thought it was misunderstood by most
Ah, now we're getting somewhere with this feature. One of the more well-written and insightful ones to be posted, actually.
It's funny, I had thought about proposing an UNPOPULAR OPINION for this film and Public Enemies, as I thought I was the only one who hadn't jumped on the "Michael Mann hasn't made a good film since Ali" bandwagon. I see it isn't the case. Others have already said it better than me, but I dug Miami Vice when it came out, and always thought it was misunderstood by most people. Like it's already been mentioned, I think after films like Starsky and Hutch and Charlie's Angels, people were prepared to see a tongue-in-cheek, self-aware parody of the original series, and they didn't know what to think when Mann took the source material seriously, set it in the present day, and gave it a gritty, modern edge. I think I specifically remember hearing a prominent critic (may have been Roeper) say that he was half-expecting to see the pastel suits and cocaine cowboys show up at some point, and was a bit disappointed that they never did (I'm paraphrasing here, but you get the point). Instead, we got Ozwald Boateng suits and ultraviolent Aryan Brotherhood drug runners, and in place of a by-the-numbers action flick, we have a slow-burn character study and police procedural film in the vein of Bullitt and Zodiac (another overlooked crime film).
Yes, it's not without its minor flaws (the romance between Isabella and Crockett does seem sort of tacked-on and forced at some points), but as you noted, if anything, Mann knows how to lens a flick and shoot the hell out of a location; like Heat, I think it's one of those rare films where the locales and cities become characters themselves. Hell of a cast, as well, with Farrell and Foxx doing some of their better work, supported by some solid actors: John Hawkes, Barry Shabaka Henley and Ciaran Hinds all perfectly underplay their roles, and Eddie Marsan has some killer scenes as the informant (“These guys kill ev’rythang!”) All said and done, the film re-asserts the notion that even perceived “lesser” films from reliable top-tier directors like Mann are still likely to be better than most of the dreck that comes out these days.
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7:31PM on 02/15/2012
The movie wasn't bad, just forgettable. Like Public Enemies, it could have used a bit more character development. Maybe I deserve to see it again, but I remember being bored when I saw it in theaters.
The movie wasn't bad, just forgettable. Like Public Enemies, it could have used a bit more character development. Maybe I deserve to see it again, but I remember being bored when I saw it in theaters.
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6:50PM on 02/15/2012
I had no idea this was so hated? I went to go see this with a couple buddies when it came out and we all thought it was entertaining. Maybe not the best but still pretty good.
I had no idea this was so hated? I went to go see this with a couple buddies when it came out and we all thought it was entertaining. Maybe not the best but still pretty good.
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6:30PM on 02/15/2012
Had no idea this flick was so reviled, I've always dug it. Its a popcorn flick delivered with the Mann edge and ends with two fantastically tense shot outs, good call on this one.
Had no idea this flick was so reviled, I've always dug it. Its a popcorn flick delivered with the Mann edge and ends with two fantastically tense shot outs, good call on this one.
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6:17PM on 02/15/2012

Great Article

Haven't seen the movie, had heard the bad talk about it, and this article has put Miami Vice on my watchlist. One of the better unpopular opinion articles, not simply for the stance or movie, but that it was a strong effort. Thanks!
Haven't seen the movie, had heard the bad talk about it, and this article has put Miami Vice on my watchlist. One of the better unpopular opinion articles, not simply for the stance or movie, but that it was a strong effort. Thanks!
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5:56PM on 02/15/2012

THANK YOU

Ive been defending this movie since I saw it in theaters (my friends all hated it). Its definitely not without it's flaws (pacing) but the good more than makes up for the bad. It really is a gorgeous movie to look at and perfectly fit Mann's style unlike Public Enemies which ended up looking cheap and fake.
Ive been defending this movie since I saw it in theaters (my friends all hated it). Its definitely not without it's flaws (pacing) but the good more than makes up for the bad. It really is a gorgeous movie to look at and perfectly fit Mann's style unlike Public Enemies which ended up looking cheap and fake.
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2:44PM on 02/15/2012

Wasn't his best, but still good...

Michael Mann is my favorite director, tied with Aronofsky, I grew up idolizing Mann's films, his style and feel for the dramatic is exactly my cup of tea, but I must agree that the dialogue felt forced, like forced trying to sound badass, I am amazed that you cited "Thats not what happens. What will happen is... what will happen is I will put a round at twenty-seven hundred feet per second into the medulla at the base of your brain. And you will be dead from the neck down before your body knows
Michael Mann is my favorite director, tied with Aronofsky, I grew up idolizing Mann's films, his style and feel for the dramatic is exactly my cup of tea, but I must agree that the dialogue felt forced, like forced trying to sound badass, I am amazed that you cited "Thats not what happens. What will happen is... what will happen is I will put a round at twenty-seven hundred feet per second into the medulla at the base of your brain. And you will be dead from the neck down before your body knows it. Your finger wont even twitch. Only you get dead. So tell me, sport, do you believe that?" This is an awful line, trying so hard to make this pretty girl with an assault rifle sound badass, it just felt too composed for the moment, and that pretty undercover cop just felt cheesy to me, and Mann is anything but cheesy. But the cinematography and use of atmosphere is amazing, that is why Mann is the best, and he executes that here as well, but this is still a far cry from Last of The Mohicans, Heat, Insider and Collateral, but it is still better than Public Enemies, which had even less character build-up, again Mann is my favorite, and that is saying a lot, LUCK is fucking amazing and seems Mann is back to proper form.
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2:31PM on 02/15/2012

Great job!

Michael Mann is probably my all-time fav director. Heat is still his very best, but Miami is like the modern day follow up. I wasn't huge into Collateral, but that one has grown on me. Most likely Public Enemies will too. People criticize Miami way too much cause it wasn't all pastel and loafers and stuff. Glad someone finally put this out there...in fact, I'd wish a sequel woulda come to pass, but frankly think it's been too long now. But I do hope Mann returns to this genre again soon.
Michael Mann is probably my all-time fav director. Heat is still his very best, but Miami is like the modern day follow up. I wasn't huge into Collateral, but that one has grown on me. Most likely Public Enemies will too. People criticize Miami way too much cause it wasn't all pastel and loafers and stuff. Glad someone finally put this out there...in fact, I'd wish a sequel woulda come to pass, but frankly think it's been too long now. But I do hope Mann returns to this genre again soon.
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1:54PM on 02/15/2012
I enjoyed it too but lets not get crazy and claim that it's better than Heat or Last of the Mohicans. Those are his top tier films, Miami Vice and Collateral are in the next tier.
I enjoyed it too but lets not get crazy and claim that it's better than Heat or Last of the Mohicans. Those are his top tier films, Miami Vice and Collateral are in the next tier.
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1:18PM on 02/15/2012
Huge Miami Vice fan, although I have to say the original cut is better than the director's cut. There's a sequence at the end with some dialogue that the director's cut edits over with Phil Collins In the Air tonight. Didn't care for that at all.
Huge Miami Vice fan, although I have to say the original cut is better than the director's cut. There's a sequence at the end with some dialogue that the director's cut edits over with Phil Collins In the Air tonight. Didn't care for that at all.
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12:17PM on 02/15/2012
I though Miami Vice was awesome. Who's saying it wasn't?
I though Miami Vice was awesome. Who's saying it wasn't?
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12:36PM on 02/15/2012
53% of the critics on Rotten Tomatoes who rated it poorly...and even a few of the other 47% are only lukewarm about it. Not many found it "awesome".
53% of the critics on Rotten Tomatoes who rated it poorly...and even a few of the other 47% are only lukewarm about it. Not many found it "awesome".
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12:07PM on 02/15/2012

Style over Substance

I love me some Michael Mann. I love his style, from the camera work to the music in his films. I have many of his films on Blu-Ray and can watch them over and over. Miami Vice is not one of them unfortunately. While it had all the style of a Michael Mann movie, it just didn't have enough meat on the bones. I expect more from Mann. It isn't terrible, but its a slow burn that ends more with a fizzle then a bang. You keep waiting for something big to happen...but it never really does.
I love me some Michael Mann. I love his style, from the camera work to the music in his films. I have many of his films on Blu-Ray and can watch them over and over. Miami Vice is not one of them unfortunately. While it had all the style of a Michael Mann movie, it just didn't have enough meat on the bones. I expect more from Mann. It isn't terrible, but its a slow burn that ends more with a fizzle then a bang. You keep waiting for something big to happen...but it never really does.
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11:47AM on 02/15/2012
I love Michael Mann but all I remember about this movie is that it was super fucking boring. It didn't move. It was so pointless. I think the performances were good but the movie itself was shit.
I love Michael Mann but all I remember about this movie is that it was super fucking boring. It didn't move. It was so pointless. I think the performances were good but the movie itself was shit.
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11:20AM on 02/15/2012
I've seen this six times. It has a lot of problems but the good far exceeds the bad.
I've seen this six times. It has a lot of problems but the good far exceeds the bad.
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10:59AM on 02/15/2012
As Nite Owl said, maybe a rewatch is in order, but right now I'm saying I still hate it. And I LOOOVE Michael Mann. There are some kick-butt sequences, for sure. I'm thinking of the trailer park raid. But overall, the dialogue is the worst I've ever heard in a Mann flick and the non-existent chemistry between Farrell and the asian chick is very laughable.
As Nite Owl said, maybe a rewatch is in order, but right now I'm saying I still hate it. And I LOOOVE Michael Mann. There are some kick-butt sequences, for sure. I'm thinking of the trailer park raid. But overall, the dialogue is the worst I've ever heard in a Mann flick and the non-existent chemistry between Farrell and the asian chick is very laughable.
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10:07AM on 02/15/2012
Seeing all the green, I guess your opinion is not so unpopular.
Seeing all the green, I guess your opinion is not so unpopular.
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10:00AM on 02/15/2012

YES!

So far it appears that we're finding out this opinion isn't so unpopular. When I finally saw Miami Vice I wondered why so many critics didn't like it. The only thing I can think of is the desire for it to be exactly like the TV show. I was too young for, and wasn't a fan of, the original show so it wasn't a factor for me and I thought the movie was awesome. The part from the trailer park, quoted above, is such a badass scene and only one of many. I think I'm going to have to watch this again
So far it appears that we're finding out this opinion isn't so unpopular. When I finally saw Miami Vice I wondered why so many critics didn't like it. The only thing I can think of is the desire for it to be exactly like the TV show. I was too young for, and wasn't a fan of, the original show so it wasn't a factor for me and I thought the movie was awesome. The part from the trailer park, quoted above, is such a badass scene and only one of many. I think I'm going to have to watch this again this weekend.
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9:46AM on 02/15/2012
This is far from Mann's work in The Insider, Heat, and Collateral but it's still a damn good movie. Though the third act of the film is flat out amazing and some of the best shit that Mann has put on film. I think Farrell and Foxx have great chemistry together. I honestly think the only reason why the movie got bad rep is because people were on a "I hate Colin Farrell because of Alexander" bandwagon. Which I think the guy has completely atoned for.
This is far from Mann's work in The Insider, Heat, and Collateral but it's still a damn good movie. Though the third act of the film is flat out amazing and some of the best shit that Mann has put on film. I think Farrell and Foxx have great chemistry together. I honestly think the only reason why the movie got bad rep is because people were on a "I hate Colin Farrell because of Alexander" bandwagon. Which I think the guy has completely atoned for.
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8:53AM on 02/15/2012
For the record I've never seen a BAD Michael Mann film. I just think this is one of his weaker outings. Unlike "Heat" or "Collateral," this time he plunges us straight into a complicated series of undercover surveillance and drug-connected murder. Normally Mann is good at making even small characters matter. But this time they serve little more than as plot device for the heroes. Nothing wrong with that in a TV show, but this could've been the best TV adaptation since "The Fugitive." Instead,
For the record I've never seen a BAD Michael Mann film. I just think this is one of his weaker outings. Unlike "Heat" or "Collateral," this time he plunges us straight into a complicated series of undercover surveillance and drug-connected murder. Normally Mann is good at making even small characters matter. But this time they serve little more than as plot device for the heroes. Nothing wrong with that in a TV show, but this could've been the best TV adaptation since "The Fugitive." Instead, Mann treats a lot of characters exactly like TV show throwaways.
I do really enjoy Naomie Harris and Trudy's relationship with Ricardo. When she's in the hospital Mann allows one of the few moments of real drama with Ricardo. And it made me a lifetime fan of John Ortiz. Gong Li, lovely ladie that she is, seemed just an odd casting choice and didn't share terribly much chemistry with Colin Farrell. Every time they were onscreen I wondered where Jamie Foxx was.
And normally I don't mind the HD photography Mann uses, but some of the aerial shots in their trips down to Colombia screamed for a higher resolution.
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8:19AM on 02/15/2012
Good article, I really enjoy the flick and agree it is beautifully shot. The scenes with the planes look amazing and I love any film which features power boats. The score was good too and I like the subtle new version of Crockett's theme.
My main flaw with the film and it's a flaw with a lot of Mann's films is I find the vocals are too quiet and it's difficult to make out what the characters are saying sometimes. Otherwise I enjoy the flick.
Good article, I really enjoy the flick and agree it is beautifully shot. The scenes with the planes look amazing and I love any film which features power boats. The score was good too and I like the subtle new version of Crockett's theme.
My main flaw with the film and it's a flaw with a lot of Mann's films is I find the vocals are too quiet and it's difficult to make out what the characters are saying sometimes. Otherwise I enjoy the flick.
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8:46AM on 02/15/2012
Found that when re-watching Public Enemies the other day. I really hoped it'd be fixed for the DVD, but nope. For the first fifteen minutes at least I had to keep drastically changing the volume.
Found that when re-watching Public Enemies the other day. I really hoped it'd be fixed for the DVD, but nope. For the first fifteen minutes at least I had to keep drastically changing the volume.
8:04AM on 02/15/2012
I also enjoyed the film but every single scene involving Farrell with Gong Li's character dragged like a mother-f#cker and damn near ruined the movie for me. The 3rd act of the movie however was terrific.
I also enjoyed the film but every single scene involving Farrell with Gong Li's character dragged like a mother-f#cker and damn near ruined the movie for me. The 3rd act of the movie however was terrific.
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6:58AM on 02/15/2012

GREAT READ

Wow dude, you just made me want to give this movie another chance.
Wow dude, you just made me want to give this movie another chance.
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7:51AM on 02/15/2012
Hey, thanks very much!
Hey, thanks very much!
4:54AM on 02/15/2012

Liked it a lot

I'd put it right at #3 Michael Mann, just a touch below Heat. Definitely a very unique style and probably even my favorite Colin Farrell role besides In Bruges, and of course Gong Li is gorgeous. The directors cut isnt half bad either, fleshes out a bit more I'd say, but definitely won't win over anyone who hated it before. But #1 Michael Mann will always be The Keep for me, don't care if Mann disowned it, I could watch it everyday.
I'd put it right at #3 Michael Mann, just a touch below Heat. Definitely a very unique style and probably even my favorite Colin Farrell role besides In Bruges, and of course Gong Li is gorgeous. The directors cut isnt half bad either, fleshes out a bit more I'd say, but definitely won't win over anyone who hated it before. But #1 Michael Mann will always be The Keep for me, don't care if Mann disowned it, I could watch it everyday.
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4:51AM on 02/15/2012
I really liked the movie, the night shots were amazing. Awesome soundtrack as well. Not my favorite Michael Mann movie (that spot goes to Last Of The Mohicans), but a solid entry in his career.
I really liked the movie, the night shots were amazing. Awesome soundtrack as well. Not my favorite Michael Mann movie (that spot goes to Last Of The Mohicans), but a solid entry in his career.
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4:01AM on 02/15/2012
I try to watch this every few months because I LOVE the style, but the lack of character development pisses me off every time. The ultra-realistic action and the amazing HD photography doesn't make up for vague, wooden characters.
I try to watch this every few months because I LOVE the style, but the lack of character development pisses me off every time. The ultra-realistic action and the amazing HD photography doesn't make up for vague, wooden characters.
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3:33AM on 02/15/2012

I enjoyed it too.

I agree that this is a great film. Sure it's a bit slow, but when the action hits it's very exciting. Many people are spoiled by movies today, and this film refuses to hold their hand. It's one of my favorite Mann films, but I still prefer "Heat" and "Collateral". However, people who hate this film simply have no patience and most likely have a lower-than-average IQ.
I agree that this is a great film. Sure it's a bit slow, but when the action hits it's very exciting. Many people are spoiled by movies today, and this film refuses to hold their hand. It's one of my favorite Mann films, but I still prefer "Heat" and "Collateral". However, people who hate this film simply have no patience and most likely have a lower-than-average IQ.
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1:15PM on 02/16/2012
Well put. Most people who disagree with you are morons. It's just that simple.
Well put. Most people who disagree with you are morons. It's just that simple.
3:05AM on 02/15/2012
Haven't seen this movie since it was first released, perhaps a revisit is in order. I don't remember much about it, but I don't think I disliked it as much as I was just kind of underwhelmed by it. It didn't make much of an impression on me one way or the other, but I watched it while in a very lethargic mood so perhaps that contributed. Anyway I think most people were put off by it expecting something more like a Charlie's Angels or The A-TEAM kind of flick.
Haven't seen this movie since it was first released, perhaps a revisit is in order. I don't remember much about it, but I don't think I disliked it as much as I was just kind of underwhelmed by it. It didn't make much of an impression on me one way or the other, but I watched it while in a very lethargic mood so perhaps that contributed. Anyway I think most people were put off by it expecting something more like a Charlie's Angels or The A-TEAM kind of flick.
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7:53AM on 02/15/2012
Not a bad thought - I wasn't paying attention much when it first came out (I picked it up for $3 on a friend's recommendation), but there's the definite chance that it was advertised as something different than it actually was.
Not a bad thought - I wasn't paying attention much when it first came out (I picked it up for $3 on a friend's recommendation), but there's the definite chance that it was advertised as something different than it actually was.