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The UnPopular Opinion: Prometheus

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THE UNPOPULAR OPINION is an ongoing column featuring different takes on films that either the writer HATED, but that the majority of film fans LOVED, or that the writer LOVED, but that most others LOATHED. We're hoping this column will promote constructive and geek fueled discussion. Enjoy!

****SOME SPOILERS ENSUE****

You may be reading this wondering if I am about to blast Ridley Scott's return to science fiction and the ALIEN universe. In fact, I absolutely loved PROMETHEUS and consider it one of Scott's best films. You may be asking yourself why this is the unpopular take on the film and I direct you to the multiple haters on this site who have criticized the plot-holes in PROMETHEUS as evidence of the movie's shortcomings. As far as nitpicking goes, there are lots of movies that warrant such a close analysis, but the amount of criticism for this film is bordering on the ridiculous.

PROMETHEUS, at it's core, is a horror movie. Much like Ridley Scott's original ALIEN, PROMETHEUS is an attempt to retell a haunted house story in a science fiction setting. Unlike ALIEN, PROMETHEUS also has a grander back story involving the creation of mankind. To combine two stories, one grand and one small, requires a balancing act that can be difficult to maintain. The screenplay by John Spaihts and Damon Lindelof has been the biggest scapegoat for those with problems with the movie, most of the blame landing on Lindelof. Lindelof's writing career has been a target for fan hate due to those dissatisfied with LOST and STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS, but are the holes really that significant?

I am gonna call this guy Dusty.

From the outset, PROMETHEUS was not billed as a prequel to ALIEN, nor is it. Yes, it exists in the same fictional universe and does directly impact the creation of the Xenomorphs, but PROMETHEUS is a separate story entirely and should be viewed as such. It is easy for us to recognize the Space Jockey and the Weyland Corporation and then criticize the film in relation to the ALIEN movies, but that is an inaccurate argument. At best, PROMETHEUS represents a parallelquel to ALIEN. The nod to elements from the ALIEN films is more of a way to ground the fictional setting of PROMETHEUS rather than a direct connection to it and serves as a way to enter the story more quickly via a film we already know well. You could call this a cheap move, but getting more stories in an already created and beloved fictional world is something rarely done in Hollywood. We are easy to throw the term spin-off around without thinking about how hard it is to pull off such a story without recycling the original.

Other criticisms of PROMETHEUS have centered on the supposed stupidity of the characters: Milburn (Rafe Spall) trying to pet the alien snake, Meredith Vickers (Charlize Theron) running in a straight line from the crashing alien ship, and the reveal that Vickers is actually Peter Weyland's (Guy Pearce) daughter. I have seen a number of criticisms of why the writing of the characters is to blame for these "stupid moves" amongst countless others, but if characters did things that made perfect sense to get from point A to point B, there would be no purpose in watching a movie. We get joy from yelling during horror films by telling the characters not to go into a room alone, not to answer the door, not to have sex, because if they do they will die. Movies have hallmark moments that propel the plot forward and if they didn't exist, the movie would be pretty damn boring. The entire purpose for these moments is to make the viewer cringe in anticipation of what we know will happen.

I don't care if she delivers a single line as long as she wears that body suit.

There is also the fact that PROMETHEUS is part of a longer story. I understand the hate of pre-planned franchises where plot elements are setup only to be answered in a second of third film. I myself hate watching television series that get cancelled after one season and we are left without resolution. Despite potential for a sequel to PROMETHEUS, we cannot hold out hope that it will happen. Does that mean that the unanswered questions posed in this movie are plot-holes? Not at all. PROMETHEUS can still be fully enjoyed without knowing the full reason behind why the Engineers created mankind or what the purpose of the black goo is. If movies answered all of our questions there would be no point in revisiting the film a second or third time.

After watching ALIEN, did we understand why the alien eggs were there? Who the Space Jockey was? Were these questions answered in James Cameron's ALIENS? No. The anticipation built upon knowing PROMETHEUS was coming likely led to many people feeling underwhelmed by the result. But, if you show PROMETHEUS to someone who has never seen ALIEN, I am confident they would be thrilled and intrigued enough to warrant repeat viewings and desire for sequels. That is the hallmark of a good movie.

Amanda Bynes has really let herself go.

You cannot argue the visual power of PROMETHEUS or Ridley Scott's masterful direction. There is not a moment in the film that is not visually stunning. The scope of PROMETHEUS is larger than ALIEN and yet the movie still manages to be as claustrophobic as that film. The look of everything from the Engineers to the structures on the planet are part homage to the work of H.R. Giger's original designs and a parallel interpretation that keeps it in line with the same universe. While movies like STAR TREK and STAR WARS offer a visual overhaul in their prequels and reboots that doesn't mesh perfectly with the other films in their respective series, PROMETHEUS does an admirable job of having these movies feel like they co-exist in the same universe.

I am all for analyzing movies down to the very minute details, but there is also something to be said for simply enjoying a movie. PROMETHEUS delivers on the thrills warranted by a summer blockbuster while also delivering enough intelligent development to make you think twice about what is happening on screen. Question Ridley Scott or Damon Lindelof all you want, but what we get on screen here is a well-acted movie populated with strong performances from Michael Fassbender, Idris Elba, Charlize Theron, Guy Pearce, and many more. Question all you want, but I am proud to consider PROMETHEUS not only a great movie on it's own but also an excellent addition to the ALIEN mythology.

Oh, and if you have any suggestions for The UnPopular Opinion I’m always happy to hear them. You can send along an email to alexmaidy@joblo.com, spell it out below, slap it up on my wall in Movie Fan Central, or send me a private message via Movie Fan Central. Provide me with as many movie suggestions as you like, with any reasoning you'd care to share, and if I agree then you may one day see it featured in this very column!
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10:51AM on 01/31/2014

It's a good movie BUT...

I could have done without all the Scientology. Yes, Scientology: the idea that aliens came to Earth billions of years ago and "seeded" it with life. It's basically Scientology meets intelligent design because we're supposed to believe that human beings were the inevitable result of evolution. Science tells us this isn't true, that if not for an asteroid collision many millions of years ago then dinosaurs would still be walking the Earth to this day and we would be nothing but food for the
I could have done without all the Scientology. Yes, Scientology: the idea that aliens came to Earth billions of years ago and "seeded" it with life. It's basically Scientology meets intelligent design because we're supposed to believe that human beings were the inevitable result of evolution. Science tells us this isn't true, that if not for an asteroid collision many millions of years ago then dinosaurs would still be walking the Earth to this day and we would be nothing but food for the planet's dominant species.. So it's really bad science. The same sort of nonsense came up in both the movie Mission to Mars and the Star Trek the Next Generation episode The Chase. If you have a science background then it's a big problem: if they are going to ignore everything we know about biology then we might as well ignore physics too and have people walk on water and through walls.
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1:38PM on 01/30/2014

Dumb Character Decisions

I'm having a hard time swallowing the argument regarding Characters in Prometheus supposedly doing "stupid" things. The only characters that seemed to be Smart in Alien, and Aliens were Ripley, then Newt. Everyone else died. Just like what happened in Prometheus. Everyone dies except for Dr. Shaw, the heroine and David survives like Bishop does in Aliens: in pieces. Everyone gripes about Milburn/Fifield and the 'snake' asking how they could have been so stupid. Both guys were smoking
I'm having a hard time swallowing the argument regarding Characters in Prometheus supposedly doing "stupid" things. The only characters that seemed to be Smart in Alien, and Aliens were Ripley, then Newt. Everyone else died. Just like what happened in Prometheus. Everyone dies except for Dr. Shaw, the heroine and David survives like Bishop does in Aliens: in pieces. Everyone gripes about Milburn/Fifield and the 'snake' asking how they could have been so stupid. Both guys were smoking pot just before they saw the creature ( Fifield had a Bong build into his helmet - remember that?). No wonder they acted the way that they did! Vickers didn't run off to the right because the Juggernaut that was falling towards her was Gigantic. How could someone know where it'll end up or which way it will end up falling. Sure, watch what happens to a quarter when you roll is on it's edge - does it stay on edge when it's finished rolling? Nope. It Falls On It's Side. The Juggernaut did the Same Thing - it could have shifted it's position at anytime while rolling and Vickers could have ended up in a bad spot no matter which way she went. Look at what happened to Dr Shaw - SHE moved off to the side, and the damn ship still fell on her, so technically, Vickers was the smarter one. Anyhoo, that's my .50cents worth of commentary. I loved the movie, AND understood it. Cheers.
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12:27PM on 01/30/2014
Yeah, I was wondering which opinion was the more popular one; loving or hating this movie. I love it. One Ridley's best, IMO. I guess all the people that hated this movie are the same people that loved that train wreak known as Drive, which I have NO earthly idea how anyone that loves movie could appreciate.
Yeah, I was wondering which opinion was the more popular one; loving or hating this movie. I love it. One Ridley's best, IMO. I guess all the people that hated this movie are the same people that loved that train wreak known as Drive, which I have NO earthly idea how anyone that loves movie could appreciate.
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8:35AM on 01/30/2014
Characters in horror movies do make stupid decisions - pretty much a genre trope - and there's generally one sensible 'virtuous' type that survives to the end - Prometheus follows this tried and tested template fairly closely. I can see why people reacted badly to the characters' decisions - they're supposed to be brilliant scientists after all, not horny teenagers at a spooky abandoned summer camp - but I didn't think the characters detracted from my enjoyment of the movie - maybe it could
Characters in horror movies do make stupid decisions - pretty much a genre trope - and there's generally one sensible 'virtuous' type that survives to the end - Prometheus follows this tried and tested template fairly closely. I can see why people reacted badly to the characters' decisions - they're supposed to be brilliant scientists after all, not horny teenagers at a spooky abandoned summer camp - but I didn't think the characters detracted from my enjoyment of the movie - maybe it could have been better / smarter as a film but it was still a beautiful and reasonable thought provoking piece of sci-fi, that didn't just give us what we expected (apart from the standard horror movie structure). For that reason I'm looking forward to the sequel.
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10:45AM on 01/30/2014
That trope pretty much only exist in B-grade horror movies, like a Friday The 13th sequel (the kind of films where you root for the villain to kill everyone). The Alien films, for the most part, had very intelligent characters. Or at least believable characters who behaved in a believable way. Every action they took felt necessary & was something you might do in their position. This was a big reason Alien & Aliens were considered A-Grade films. Their characters were believable and smartly
That trope pretty much only exist in B-grade horror movies, like a Friday The 13th sequel (the kind of films where you root for the villain to kill everyone). The Alien films, for the most part, had very intelligent characters. Or at least believable characters who behaved in a believable way. Every action they took felt necessary & was something you might do in their position. This was a big reason Alien & Aliens were considered A-Grade films. Their characters were believable and smartly written. Even Alien 3 had far more believable & realistic characters than Prometheus.
7:21AM on 01/30/2014
My problem was the lack of horror and the tension of something pursuing the characters
My problem was the lack of horror and the tension of something pursuing the characters
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12:26AM on 01/30/2014
I didn't like this movie much, but I didn't hate it. Still, this article is one of the worst defenses I've ever seen for this movie. We are supposed to enjoy stupid characters so that we can root for them to not be stupid? Are you fucking kidding me?
I didn't like this movie much, but I didn't hate it. Still, this article is one of the worst defenses I've ever seen for this movie. We are supposed to enjoy stupid characters so that we can root for them to not be stupid? Are you fucking kidding me?
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12:00AM on 01/30/2014
I feel that the attempt to distance Prometheus from Alien somewhat was a cheap move. The reason I think that is because, being a huge fan of Alien, I really wanted this film to connect more directly with that film. I might be wrong in saying this, but I feel that's what most hardcore Alien fans wanted from the film. I understand the potential Lindelof and Ridley saw in utilizing a familiar universe for an original story, but they borrowed and used that universe in the same way that certain
I feel that the attempt to distance Prometheus from Alien somewhat was a cheap move. The reason I think that is because, being a huge fan of Alien, I really wanted this film to connect more directly with that film. I might be wrong in saying this, but I feel that's what most hardcore Alien fans wanted from the film. I understand the potential Lindelof and Ridley saw in utilizing a familiar universe for an original story, but they borrowed and used that universe in the same way that certain video game developers borrow and use game engines from older games to build the foundation of new ones. It felt like a gimmick because, to me, they were just taking advantage of an already established fan base to help support a project which became more and more removed from the original reason it was created: to answer the questions about who the space jockey's were, where they came from, where the derelict ship came from and how it got on LV-426, where the xenomorphs came from and why they were created, and who sent the distress call/why. While it can be argued that Prometheus answered these questions, or at least hinted at the answers, I feel that it was less concerned with delivering satisfactory answers or possibilities than it was with setting up a new franchise/series within an existing universe. However interesting some of the elements presented in Prometheus were, it's pretty undeniable that the movie basically amounts to nothing more than a giant teaser trailer for the film we really wanted to see. Being franchise fans, we're usually enticed by more films, but I'm not sure if we really needed more films in this case. Well, I would be open to more movies about the space jockeys, but I would have preferred that Prometheus answer at least SOME of the questions we Alien fans had in a more direct manner. If they did that to my satisfaction, then I would be ok with the idea of moving forward with a new story with a further departure from Alien, but they should have gone with the philosophy "first things first." I, as well as many others, have given Ridley and Lindelof a lot of flak for what happened with the script of Prometheus, but I think it's justified. Lindelof writes with a fake intelligence present in his scripts. His stories suggest wild and complex ideas, yet I feel he has absolutely no clue how to answer the questions he raises and he doesn't account for possible answers when he writes. He just raises question after question until he writes himself into a corner and the only way out is a disappointing answer or a disappointing open-ended cop out. He's all about the big ideas, but just mentioning questions others before us have asked doesn't indicate intelligence in the writing process.
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11:24PM on 01/29/2014

I enjoyed it

Other people didn't. I'm fine with that, but glad to see the argument for it being rooted in the horror genre where plot holes (character contradictions mainly) are a matter of fun, though granted a biologist who might have been freaked out by dead engineers and maze-like eerie tunnels might actually find a small living organism fascinating. I liked the expansion of the universe, especially since it incorporated elements that Scott wanted to use in the original, but just didn't have the
Other people didn't. I'm fine with that, but glad to see the argument for it being rooted in the horror genre where plot holes (character contradictions mainly) are a matter of fun, though granted a biologist who might have been freaked out by dead engineers and maze-like eerie tunnels might actually find a small living organism fascinating. I liked the expansion of the universe, especially since it incorporated elements that Scott wanted to use in the original, but just didn't have the money. I also thought it was nicely balanced and want to find out more about the space jockey mythology that was hinted at. I just hope the editing is better next time...
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9:40PM on 01/29/2014

Agreed

Alex - I completely agree and am glad someone has balls enough to say they enjoy the movie, alongside a valid explanation of why. It's a shame that so few understand the purpose behind movies these days. The internet is a great place, but I think the problem it creates is an overabundance of 'knowledge.' Everyone knows 'everything' these days and along with that knowledge comes an assumed authority on every topic posted. Thanks for the great perspective. - G
Alex - I completely agree and am glad someone has balls enough to say they enjoy the movie, alongside a valid explanation of why. It's a shame that so few understand the purpose behind movies these days. The internet is a great place, but I think the problem it creates is an overabundance of 'knowledge.' Everyone knows 'everything' these days and along with that knowledge comes an assumed authority on every topic posted. Thanks for the great perspective. - G
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8:53PM on 01/29/2014
I had fun watching this movie. Sue me.
I had fun watching this movie. Sue me.
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8:25PM on 01/29/2014
I liked the movie. The plot holes didn't bother me. But I also felt the movie was nothing special. The story was meh. The characters were meh. Nothing about it was exciting. They tried to recapture the slow, building story of the first Alien film (yes, I get your point it wasn't an Alien prequel, but let's not kid ourselves, this was very much in vain with the trilogy), but they failed. The story barely went anywhere interesting and the characters were underdeveloped. But yeah, the criticism
I liked the movie. The plot holes didn't bother me. But I also felt the movie was nothing special. The story was meh. The characters were meh. Nothing about it was exciting. They tried to recapture the slow, building story of the first Alien film (yes, I get your point it wasn't an Alien prequel, but let's not kid ourselves, this was very much in vain with the trilogy), but they failed. The story barely went anywhere interesting and the characters were underdeveloped. But yeah, the criticism for this film seems exaggerated. I think people had high expectations, more than anything, and those expectations weren't met.
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7:00PM on 01/29/2014

Keeping in mind I dont want to get into an internet fight

Prometheus was awesome! It really needs a sequel and overly ever person I know who hates it, simply hates it for not being a direct prequel to Alien
Prometheus was awesome! It really needs a sequel and overly ever person I know who hates it, simply hates it for not being a direct prequel to Alien
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6:18PM on 01/29/2014

HA!

You just gotta leave it to Prometheus to fuel some of the most emotionally charged banter I've seen on this site in years. Seriously, I'm having a blast reading some of these little sub-arguments. On that note, I thought Prometheus was pretty damn good with some not-so-good moments.
You just gotta leave it to Prometheus to fuel some of the most emotionally charged banter I've seen on this site in years. Seriously, I'm having a blast reading some of these little sub-arguments. On that note, I thought Prometheus was pretty damn good with some not-so-good moments.
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12:32AM on 01/30/2014
It's the Alien franchise that fuels emotions. People love the shit out of Alien. This over long emotionally charged banter even happened with Alien vs Predator.
It's the Alien franchise that fuels emotions. People love the shit out of Alien. This over long emotionally charged banter even happened with Alien vs Predator.
5:55PM on 01/29/2014
This is just one of those "love it or hate it" films. Some people loved it, some loathed it. There seems to be no in between. I'm on the side that loved it. Minor plot issues aside, I thought it was the best sci-fi film of 2012 and I still don't get why people give it such a hard time.
This is just one of those "love it or hate it" films. Some people loved it, some loathed it. There seems to be no in between. I'm on the side that loved it. Minor plot issues aside, I thought it was the best sci-fi film of 2012 and I still don't get why people give it such a hard time.
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3:49PM on 01/29/2014

What do you know

After a decade plus of participating on this site... the dreaded double post happened to me. Of all the indignities /eats poison. dies/
After a decade plus of participating on this site... the dreaded double post happened to me. Of all the indignities /eats poison. dies/
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3:49PM on 01/29/2014

Another option...

is either way you feel about the movie... you could chill the fuck on out.
is either way you feel about the movie... you could chill the fuck on out.
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3:40PM on 01/29/2014

What is wrong with people?

So some people like this movie, and some people don't. So what? Do we need to start a war over it? Why are people getting emotionally bent out of shape over others having different opinions? That's the only thing people need to get over. It's perfectly okay to have different opinions. Really, it is. Sheesh!

At any rate, I've just revisited the film and I still don't care for it.

There are many comments defending the nature of the film in regards to it being a "parallelequel" as the
So some people like this movie, and some people don't. So what? Do we need to start a war over it? Why are people getting emotionally bent out of shape over others having different opinions? That's the only thing people need to get over. It's perfectly okay to have different opinions. Really, it is. Sheesh!

At any rate, I've just revisited the film and I still don't care for it.

There are many comments defending the nature of the film in regards to it being a "parallelequel" as the writer put it, but this shouldn't matter with regards to the quality of the film. It's clearly not a sequel. Some say it's not a prequel. This then begs the question, why connect it to the Alien franchise at all? A big part of me feels that this film not only wouldn't have been better, but would have been better received if there were no Alien connection. If the film makers didn't want it to be directly connected to the Alien franchise, then why did the writer have the replicant (for lack of a better word) character, David, mimic the actions of the replicant in the first Alien film almost note for note?

Ultimately though, whether it's a sequel, a prequel, a sidequel, or whatever, if it's connected in some way, then it's connected. Period. So some sense of continuity ought to be respected.

Some of this has to do with the hackneyed manner in which they developed the whole ancient astronaut scenario. Two archaeologists find carvings on walls depicting constellations, and immediately interprets it as an invitation from extraterrestrials who made them? I understand that a film can't be 9 hours long in most cases, but there are plenty of ways to infer that this discovery took more than a few months to come up with.

In this film, there are simply too many mysteries that never get explained being dropped. The aliens, the engineers, the snake, the squid, the oil, the originals of mankind, etc. Pick one or two and stick with them. Granted, as Alex pointed out, they never explained the Space Jockey or the origin of the eggs in the original Alien either. That's true, but that only amounts to only two mysteries. The main problem with Lindelof's writing, as fans of LOST will tell you is that he drops mystery after mystery onto the viewer, with none of them having any real purpose. This isn't subtly. It's just lazy screenwriting. Any 3rd grader can come up with ideas, it's the professional writer that gives them meaning and purpose. Granted, perhaps it might all be explained in future installments, but Lindelof's known history makes that highly unlikely if he's the one that continues to write them.

I would argue though, that more than the plot, the characters are the primary problem. The archaeologist's unprofessional behavior is excusable to a point because they have to be on the mission. But with regards to the rest of the team, their behavior is ridiculous. Taking off their helmets when scientists ought to know damn well the potential dangers of possible airborne contagions indicates to me that this was merely a lazy way to get the characters to take off their helmets so they'd be more vulnerable. The petting of the snake, the "I'm only here for money" routine, the sloppy hipster clothing styles, all of these things indicates a highly unprofessional team. I understand that perhaps the intent was to make this team seem more real and gritty. However it failed on that regard because professional scientists don't behave in this manner, undisciplined and immature college hipsters do.

For instance there's the scene where they bring in the engineer head to be examined. Hello! Biohazard! Why aren't any of them wearing masks at the very least? Why was this extraterrestrial bio-matter allowed to be in the ship uncontained for even one single minute?

Maybe this was the point. After all, the marines in Aliens were purposely undisciplined loose cannons as well, in order to help the disaster along. A focused and highly competent platoon of marines might have fared better in that scenario, so the story wouldn't have been quite as horrific.

But in this case that approach just doesn't work when applied to a team of hired scientists. Weyland hired these guys? What was he thinking? Clearly anyone hiring these people has no interest in the success of the mission.

It's an interesting thought to read what someone who never saw any of the alien movies might think about this. Someone should seriously try that experiment and see what the comments are.

As for why they're coming up with 2 more scripts? Who knows. Why are there 5 Highlander movies? I don't know.
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3:44PM on 01/29/2014
It's the internet - people don't feel like it's okay to have a tempered opinion about anything.
It's the internet - people don't feel like it's okay to have a tempered opinion about anything.
9:20PM on 01/29/2014
My post below, which I have since deleted, was super pissed, but not at the fact that someone liked the movie, there's no accounting for tastes and opinion. I got far, far more irate (and I still am) over the fact that somehow, fans have decided that plot holes are an okay thing for a story to have. As oppose to treating a story super riddled with plot holes as being lazily told (although a movie can overcome this with solid direction/ good casting, etc.) and trying to pretend that the plot
My post below, which I have since deleted, was super pissed, but not at the fact that someone liked the movie, there's no accounting for tastes and opinion. I got far, far more irate (and I still am) over the fact that somehow, fans have decided that plot holes are an okay thing for a story to have. As oppose to treating a story super riddled with plot holes as being lazily told (although a movie can overcome this with solid direction/ good casting, etc.) and trying to pretend that the plot holes either don't matter (if there are too many, or if they are too big, they do matter!). Like the movie all you want, but don't try to pretend that the script/ story are amazing (for the record, I don't care if Vickers runs straight, backward, or twirls in the air to escape the ship. That is a nitpick, not a plot hole.)

I got far too pissed about the fans trying to defend the plotholes, and not understanding why someone would think that is an issue. So thank you for being far more levelheaded than I, but please believe that my anger isn't a difference of opinion, but rather a genuine bafflement at fans allowing legitimate storytelling problems to no longer be considered lazy, poor, dumb, etc.
2:47PM on 01/29/2014

Get over it.

Majority of people enjoyed the movie. It made money, got overall positive reviews from most critics, and if it was so bad than why would the studio ask Ridley to ready 2 more scripts? As for the dipshit douchebag BATSTUD down below who calls everybody insane because ''nobody'' can understand what the fuck he talking about (check the replies to his stupid comment lol) Get over it dude. Have a coke and a smile and fuck you too! LMFAO
Majority of people enjoyed the movie. It made money, got overall positive reviews from most critics, and if it was so bad than why would the studio ask Ridley to ready 2 more scripts? As for the dipshit douchebag BATSTUD down below who calls everybody insane because ''nobody'' can understand what the fuck he talking about (check the replies to his stupid comment lol) Get over it dude. Have a coke and a smile and fuck you too! LMFAO
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2:01PM on 01/29/2014
I loving hearing fanboys defend this film. "So what if the characters are stupid & poorly written, so what if there are massive plot holes, you are just nitpicking!"

Sounds to me like you just WANT this film to be good regardless.
I loving hearing fanboys defend this film. "So what if the characters are stupid & poorly written, so what if there are massive plot holes, you are just nitpicking!"

Sounds to me like you just WANT this film to be good regardless.
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6:20AM on 01/30/2014
No, for some people a movie is more than just (definitely not massive) plot-holes and secondary characters. It's the visuals, the music, the overarching story, the tension. Some people are just not so hell-bent to find mistakes in a film, the just want to "experience" it.

But hey, why talk to someone who immediately pulls out the "fanboys" card as he makes an argument... Is it really so out of the question that someone might like something you don't that you need to call fanboys?
No, for some people a movie is more than just (definitely not massive) plot-holes and secondary characters. It's the visuals, the music, the overarching story, the tension. Some people are just not so hell-bent to find mistakes in a film, the just want to "experience" it.

But hey, why talk to someone who immediately pulls out the "fanboys" card as he makes an argument... Is it really so out of the question that someone might like something you don't that you need to call fanboys?
1:46PM on 01/29/2014
I liked the movie too. And to add, I never watch those "everything wrong with 'blank' film in 60 seconds" videos either. I read enough nitpicking and complaining as it is. I don't need videos that just enable the bitch fest on movies.
I liked the movie too. And to add, I never watch those "everything wrong with 'blank' film in 60 seconds" videos either. I read enough nitpicking and complaining as it is. I don't need videos that just enable the bitch fest on movies.
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4:24PM on 01/29/2014
I watch them mainly because they are funny. I still love the movies they feature. A lot of times it's not nitpicking as much as were they really that lazy? That being said I absolutely love Prometheus despite it's flaws.
I watch them mainly because they are funny. I still love the movies they feature. A lot of times it's not nitpicking as much as were they really that lazy? That being said I absolutely love Prometheus despite it's flaws.
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1:45PM on 01/29/2014
On a technical level, this movie was awesome. The atmosphere was flawless. Story-wise, and more importantly character-wise, it was terrible. The characters were pure nonsense. If I find myself hating the characters (especially mentally retarded characters like in Prometheus) , then the rest of the movie just falls apart.
On a technical level, this movie was awesome. The atmosphere was flawless. Story-wise, and more importantly character-wise, it was terrible. The characters were pure nonsense. If I find myself hating the characters (especially mentally retarded characters like in Prometheus) , then the rest of the movie just falls apart.
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1:39PM on 01/29/2014
it is a horror movie that is not scary at all.
it is a horror movie that is not scary at all.
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1:38PM on 01/29/2014
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1:43PM on 01/29/2014
Lol OK thanks for that
Lol OK thanks for that
3:15PM on 01/29/2014
Yeah, calling us fuckhats really drove your point home. Can you just make the rest of my life decisions for me?
Yeah, calling us fuckhats really drove your point home. Can you just make the rest of my life decisions for me?
3:48PM on 01/29/2014
Why are people who mistake their opinions for objective fact the biggest crybabies?
Why are people who mistake their opinions for objective fact the biggest crybabies?
9:36PM on 01/29/2014
Nice deleting the comment...
Nice deleting the comment...
2:33AM on 01/30/2014
@Smoo, I did not state that my opinion (or yours, or anyone else's) of this movie was a fact, that was the point after the factoids, but in the same sentence. What was stated was that people act like plotholes aren't an objectively terrible thing, story wise, and that movies do have two aspects when it comes to one's feelings about it- the tangible, quantifiable things, that can be objectively messed up (piss poor framing of a scene, lighting is too bright or too dark, etc) and the fun factor
@Smoo, I did not state that my opinion (or yours, or anyone else's) of this movie was a fact, that was the point after the factoids, but in the same sentence. What was stated was that people act like plotholes aren't an objectively terrible thing, story wise, and that movies do have two aspects when it comes to one's feelings about it- the tangible, quantifiable things, that can be objectively messed up (piss poor framing of a scene, lighting is too bright or too dark, etc) and the fun factor (for lack of a better term) that is the shifting, different from person to person opinionated reaction to a given stimuli (this is 100% subjective).

I never declared my opinion as fact, just that objectively, the story this movie tells is a huge mess. But every other pissant seems to think that plot holes should be accepted and are okay, and that drove me into a blind fury (much more so than a difference of a opinion on some crappy, IMO, flick I'll hopefully get to stop hearing about soon). That fury led to me original post being super rude, dickish, and very much written by an asshole (me in this case). I couldn't think of a way to rewrite, so yeah I deleted it, and I apologize for being such a rude douche earlier.
6:12AM on 01/30/2014
You cannot say that plot-holes are a fact. Some of them can be left to personal interpretation. Just as you're examples of lighting being to bright - it's still a subjective opinion. For you, a lighting might be too bright, for me it might be perfect. It is a CREATIVE decision. Sure, the manual might say you shouldn't do that, but a movie is a work of art and not rocket science. People nowadays, have a difficulty to understand what objective and subjective is. There is no objective in
You cannot say that plot-holes are a fact. Some of them can be left to personal interpretation. Just as you're examples of lighting being to bright - it's still a subjective opinion. For you, a lighting might be too bright, for me it might be perfect. It is a CREATIVE decision. Sure, the manual might say you shouldn't do that, but a movie is a work of art and not rocket science. People nowadays, have a difficulty to understand what objective and subjective is. There is no objective in interpreting a work of art. You can only say that this movie is this and this long or that this and this scene was in a movie. But the rest is personal tastes. Yes, even the story is not objective because you can add your own arguments from encoding the film. There are no objectively bad plots the same way as there are no objectively bad movies.
1:29PM on 01/30/2014
Plot holes are a fact, that's not a subjective thing. Looking past and being to still enjoy the story despite (in very few cases, because of) the plot holes is subjective, but them existing, even if they do not annoy you personally is something that cannot be argued with. More importantly, I don't understand how people can be so casual about it- is it possible for something to overcome plotholes and still be entertaining? Yes, 100% absolutely. But the plotholes are still a flaw within said
Plot holes are a fact, that's not a subjective thing. Looking past and being to still enjoy the story despite (in very few cases, because of) the plot holes is subjective, but them existing, even if they do not annoy you personally is something that cannot be argued with. More importantly, I don't understand how people can be so casual about it- is it possible for something to overcome plotholes and still be entertaining? Yes, 100% absolutely. But the plotholes are still a flaw within said entertainment (movie, TV show, book, etc).

As for the lighting (because it's the example you personally brought up, but I will use anything else you'd like me to), there's an actual term for when a scene is lit too brightly and everything looks white- "washing out". Sometimes, this is done deliberately for affect, and I'd wager 99% of the time, it's obvious when it's being used as such. However, presuming scene X isn't using it for effect, and the scene is 'washed out', that's an objectively, badly lit sequence. Does that one poorly done scene ruin the whole movie? No. Is it a flaw? Yes. If a whole film looks that way (again, not on purpose) that movie looks bad, objectively speaking. It's why we have a term for that kind of a thing. Subjectively, you are free to not give a damn and still enjoy the scene at large, but don't act surprised when someone says that scene X wasn't good because it was washed out and it took them out of the movie.

The problem is people mixing up objective and subjective things, and yes, "Prometheus" is objectively nonsensical, and I don't care for it. You can read into it all you like, but you can tell me that the GPS-maooing ball guy getting lost is meant to symbolize the bullshit of crap, because it doesn't (there are probably 'plotholes' in the movie that do symbolize things I either didn't get upon my first viewing of the movie or weren't clear enough for me to not see that way, but the map guy getting lost is none of that). Him getting lost is nothing more than a dumb, back breaking contrivance that serves no purpose in furthering the plot in any real way. And that yes, makes it an objective plot hole that no one can try to see symbolism in or read into. So yes, an objectively poorly told story (or a story that has poorly done moments) can and does exist. There are movies I love where things like that happen, but I can overlook them because of everything else in the film works for me. Not with "Prometheus". Not when 95% of all the supposedly smart scientists act like dumb as brick teenagers, not when the plot changes it's focus with no purpose, and not when it shoehorns in an actual xenomorph for no reason (that last bit I just feel is super insulting, not really a plot hole).
5:11PM on 01/30/2014
It's still not objective, movies cannot be judged objectively because it's impossible. What you're saying about the visuals is a technical glitch. And please, of course I know what "washing out" is, almost every long term film fan knows it. But as you, yourself, and me before you, pointed out, it's sometimes used as a creative decision and who's to tell when it was delibrate or not. Are you the all-knowing authority on film? Furthermore, a movie, when it's released is a piece of art meant to be
It's still not objective, movies cannot be judged objectively because it's impossible. What you're saying about the visuals is a technical glitch. And please, of course I know what "washing out" is, almost every long term film fan knows it. But as you, yourself, and me before you, pointed out, it's sometimes used as a creative decision and who's to tell when it was delibrate or not. Are you the all-knowing authority on film? Furthermore, a movie, when it's released is a piece of art meant to be excperienced and interpreted individually. Many times, people find in movies clues and themes that the director didn't even think of, which doesn't mean they are false or incorrect. You can interpret visuals, music and story on your own and any plot-holes can be explained by different people in different ways - thus making them SUBJECTIVE!

How about if I tell you that the scientist reaching out for the snake is a symbolism for how incompetent humans are and how we pale in comparison to even our own creation - David - which in effect makes him hate us even more. Or that this crew is the symbol of incomptance and the metaphor for why the Engineers would want to wipe out their failed experiment. Now, I'm not saying that I believe it, but that's an interpretation that makes this story element not a plot hole. Thus, it is subjective! Just because it sounds silly to you, and me or John Smith, doesn't mean it's objective. You cannot measure it.

Coming back to technical glitches. You again say how they can be measured - sure they can. Let's say a movie is poorly pixelated or grainy on a blu-ray disk - but that's just a technological error, it wasn't the way the director wanted you to see it or they way it was meant to be seen. That's something different and it never should influence the overal receptionof a movie. Just like you watching a pirated copy of a movie and being dissapointed that there are people standing up in front of the scene. That was not the intent. When you see it, as released and agreed upon by the director that's when you can judge and interpet his creative decisions. If it's washed out or grainy now, that's a decision and it is left for interpretation.
1:29PM on 01/29/2014
A couple of points. One, Charlize Theron gets a lot of crap, but it makes more sense to me once the reveal of her relation to Weyland. She'd committed her life to positioning herself to take over the corporation, and was jealous of David. The idiot scientists were still unforgivable, because, unlike in "Alien" Fifield and Milburn felt like they walked out of a b-slasher movie when they lost their shit, like the writers were looking for a way of dispatching them, and decided turning them into
A couple of points. One, Charlize Theron gets a lot of crap, but it makes more sense to me once the reveal of her relation to Weyland. She'd committed her life to positioning herself to take over the corporation, and was jealous of David. The idiot scientists were still unforgivable, because, unlike in "Alien" Fifield and Milburn felt like they walked out of a b-slasher movie when they lost their shit, like the writers were looking for a way of dispatching them, and decided turning them into morons would get the job done faster. And the deleted scenes felt like they offered a bit more in terms of making sense of the movie. I do think they should've made another pass on the script before filming, but for all the little flaws I still think it's a pretty interesting movie, if only for what it attempts to be.
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1:08PM on 01/29/2014
People nowadays are just waaay too focused on plot-holes. As if that is the only thing that's important in a movie. Hearing that it "looks stunning but it's not a good movie" is a bit disrespectful to the creative team of the film. Can a story be told by means of images and creative decisions on screen? Of course, you don't really need that effective a plot - just look at Gravity - it pulled people just by technical mastery. Prometheus is an amazing film with some characters maybe not acting
People nowadays are just waaay too focused on plot-holes. As if that is the only thing that's important in a movie. Hearing that it "looks stunning but it's not a good movie" is a bit disrespectful to the creative team of the film. Can a story be told by means of images and creative decisions on screen? Of course, you don't really need that effective a plot - just look at Gravity - it pulled people just by technical mastery. Prometheus is an amazing film with some characters maybe not acting logically but then again who's to tell how you would have acted in space. The good - the overarching story, the themes, the tension, the mystery, the visuals, music - far outweigh the bad - some sporadic hickups in the story. I'm just amazed that someone can feel that Vickers' running in a straight line is a deal-breaker in a film that is so masterfully crafted. Do great visuals immediately make a great movie? Of course not, but they help. Does a mistake-less plot make a great movie? Surely not, but it helps. All these elements need to be taken into account and one should not forget it when encountering a silly scene here or there. These are just small moments in a film.
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1:50PM on 01/29/2014
I agree, the Vickers thing isn't a problem like others (and I bloody loathe this film), but if I am suppose to invest in the characters, why are they all so stupid? And just a little dumb, but so backbreakingly idiotic it actual made me laugh at the movie the first time I saw it?

Also, "Gravity"'s story is so much simpler that comparing the two films is beyond dumb. One is focused almost exclusively on the technical aspects to make it work and move it's story along, while the other tries to
I agree, the Vickers thing isn't a problem like others (and I bloody loathe this film), but if I am suppose to invest in the characters, why are they all so stupid? And just a little dumb, but so backbreakingly idiotic it actual made me laugh at the movie the first time I saw it?

Also, "Gravity"'s story is so much simpler that comparing the two films is beyond dumb. One is focused almost exclusively on the technical aspects to make it work and move it's story along, while the other tries to have a more conventionally told story but has no idea how to do so, despite some technical prowess and that's the motherfucking problem!

The problem with the 'small moments' you bring up is that the entire plot hinges off of them, or the character arcs do. Like David the android poisoning the lead scientist. That becomes a huge plot point later on, but why did that happen? The motivation for David to do that is entirely absent from the film? The scientist petting the alien like a dog is the dumbest moment in the movie, and again, is a huge plot point. If the dumber moments were 'small moments', like in "The Last Stand", where they don't impact the plot much, it'd be far easier to forgive it. But every dumb, stupid story point is a big plot moment, and it's impossible to get into the film because of that.
6:01AM on 01/30/2014
I didn't compare Prometheus to Gravity, I only referenced Gravity. So there's no reason to call people names, buddy. Not that there was in the first place, so relax.

And when you talk about motivations, this can be left to personal interpretation of a work of art. For me, it was clear why David would poison the scientist - he was a bit jealous of Shaw or at least annoyed by the scientist. The whole point of the movie was David and his emotions - creating a thinking and feeling being by both,
I didn't compare Prometheus to Gravity, I only referenced Gravity. So there's no reason to call people names, buddy. Not that there was in the first place, so relax.

And when you talk about motivations, this can be left to personal interpretation of a work of art. For me, it was clear why David would poison the scientist - he was a bit jealous of Shaw or at least annoyed by the scientist. The whole point of the movie was David and his emotions - creating a thinking and feeling being by both, the engineers and us. David simply didn't like the scientist and wanted to test the black stuff on him. Being an android, his moral compass might be different as well. You don't always need characters to tell you why they've done something, sometimes you have to find it in the film. If you ask me, it was pretty clear. If it wasn't to you then ok.

Why would a scientist pet an alien snake like that? I have no fucking clue, I wouldn't do that with any snake, but still, he's a throw-away character. The dumb blond that runs upstairs in a horror movie. He wasn't essential to the plot in any way other than attacking the rest of the crew that we actually care about. It's just fun to look at the scene knowing what will happen to the dumb character who should have known better.

I'm not saying I'm right and you're wrong. It's only my interpretation, I'm just saying it's a little awkward to me that people are so fast to discredit the overall film with some non-essential scenes or by not being spoonfed. If they do, that's their right, all I'm saying is that the point of doing so is beyond me and feels like nitpicking in its essence.
1:50PM on 01/30/2014
filmguy450, I like how you crap all over LelekPL's comments about comparing Gravity and Prometheus because they're far too different for comparison. Yet you use "The Last Stand" as a comparison to Prometheus to prove your point about how dumb moments in a film can be forgiven. Just a little but hypocritical....
filmguy450, I like how you crap all over LelekPL's comments about comparing Gravity and Prometheus because they're far too different for comparison. Yet you use "The Last Stand" as a comparison to Prometheus to prove your point about how dumb moments in a film can be forgiven. Just a little but hypocritical....
1:07PM on 01/29/2014
Excellent points all around. Before I saw Prometheus I had read a few reviews, so I went into the movie thinking to keep ALIEN and whatever happens in PROMETHEUS separate from each other. With that in mind, it was cool to see the tangents that connect both movies, but overall Prometheus was a really enjoyable sci-fi movie. One that hasn't come along in a long while.

The only thing I disagree with is the defense of Damon Lindelof. I'm overall not a big fan of Damon Lindelof, I have no
Excellent points all around. Before I saw Prometheus I had read a few reviews, so I went into the movie thinking to keep ALIEN and whatever happens in PROMETHEUS separate from each other. With that in mind, it was cool to see the tangents that connect both movies, but overall Prometheus was a really enjoyable sci-fi movie. One that hasn't come along in a long while.

The only thing I disagree with is the defense of Damon Lindelof. I'm overall not a big fan of Damon Lindelof, I have no problem with watching an intelligent movie that requires me to think for myself and connect the dots to know what's happening in the story. But Lindelof is the exception to that rule, it's one thing to not outright explain everything that happens in the movie, but to leave out any way of understanding what happens in the movie is ridiculous. It's fine if there was no way in the context of the story to explain what the black goo was, or why someone decided to pet a alien snake, but there were certain things that should have been addressed in that movie simply because that's what the movie was about. For example, why did the engineers create humanity? - It's fine if you don't want to explain why they decided to destroy humanity, but considering the movie had an entire plot developed around the creation of humanity this one question should have been answered. Lindelof could use the question of why they wanted to destroy humanity for the sequel.

And also, as a nit-picky thing, the scene where David re-animates the Engineer, whatever the Engineer said should have had subtitles. He didn't need to give everything away, but the scene went from an awe-inspiring moment to heavy action scene in 3 seconds and I had no idea why. I got my answer because I read an interview with Lindelof that explained the scene. But I shouldn't have to do extra reading to have the movie explained to me. I should be able to understand and connect the dots using everything that is presented on screen, not in extra reading material after the movie.
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12:41PM on 01/29/2014

Apologies for the wall of text...

Just speculating here, but I tend to think most fanboys were pissed off with the end result of the film partially because of the fact that the studio almost went out of their way to sell it as a direct ALIEN prequel (or sidequel, or whateverthefuckquel), including making the trailer almost identical to the one for ALIEN (score, editing, etc). However, when they saw the film and realized it was only tangentially connected, they felt like they were sold a false bill of goods, so to speak. That,
Just speculating here, but I tend to think most fanboys were pissed off with the end result of the film partially because of the fact that the studio almost went out of their way to sell it as a direct ALIEN prequel (or sidequel, or whateverthefuckquel), including making the trailer almost identical to the one for ALIEN (score, editing, etc). However, when they saw the film and realized it was only tangentially connected, they felt like they were sold a false bill of goods, so to speak. That, and some daft plot points.

I for one enjoyed it a lot as a sci-fi film, save for a few irritating bits; Discount Tom Hardy's character was a dick for most of the movie ("We've made one of the biggest scientific discoveries about the human race, but I'm still going to shuffle around being mopey and depressed"), which made me pretty indifferent when he got infected, and ultimately, flash-fried. I wasn't as annoyed with the "stray plotlines/questions" as some people were (the black oil, hieroglyphics in the Marlon Brando Room, etc), but I was kind of frustrated and occasionally confused with the huge amount of "stray characters," many of which existed simply to get killed or maimed in various nasty ways when the shit hit the fan. Part of what made the first two films so appealing was that they both had small, tight crews of people that you get to know over the course of the story, and therefore care about when they start getting killed. It seemed like the half the crew in PROMETHEUS were there just to get thrown around or broken in half when the Stoned Stone Collector turned into a zombie. Still, it's Ridley Scott, so you know the pacing and visuals are going to keep you interested, even if the characters don't (except for Fassbender and Elba; they stole the show).

And as a side note, I found it hysterical when the Blu-Ray was packaged with a sticker on the slipcase that proclaimed "Questions Will be Answered;" I actually left it on my copy. Between that and the redundant STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS and MAN OF STEEL explanations that came out, I find it kind of sad that filmmakers now feel like they have to cater and subsequently answer to whiny fanboys that are never happy with anything that comes out, especially if it involves Damon Lindelof. The way fanboys lash out at him, you'd think the poor guy fed LSD to a classroom of schoolchildren and then raped them in front of their mothers.
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12:30PM on 01/29/2014

I liked the movie but...

saying that we go to see horror movies to see characters do "stupid things" is preposterous. You are making an excuse for lazy writing. In a franchise that is known for being well written and smart it is unacceptable to have glaring lapses of good judgement by characters who are supposed to be brilliant scientists just to further the plot. Hate it all you want but at least Alien 3 made logical sense.
saying that we go to see horror movies to see characters do "stupid things" is preposterous. You are making an excuse for lazy writing. In a franchise that is known for being well written and smart it is unacceptable to have glaring lapses of good judgement by characters who are supposed to be brilliant scientists just to further the plot. Hate it all you want but at least Alien 3 made logical sense.
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12:02PM on 01/29/2014
Prometheus was visually stunning, but that doesn't make a good movie or a good story. My biggest issue with Prometheus was the pure stupidity of the characters, the inconsistency of the characters, and the lack of motivation for most of their actions throughout the film. I can let some things go, but this was just too much.

Also, in Alien, the questions behind the ship, the eggs, & the space jokey never needed an answer because that wasn't the story. The crew trying to get home was the
Prometheus was visually stunning, but that doesn't make a good movie or a good story. My biggest issue with Prometheus was the pure stupidity of the characters, the inconsistency of the characters, and the lack of motivation for most of their actions throughout the film. I can let some things go, but this was just too much.

Also, in Alien, the questions behind the ship, the eggs, & the space jokey never needed an answer because that wasn't the story. The crew trying to get home was the story (they were trying to get home from frame one). Alien told us just enough so that we knew something bad happened on this alien ship, and now this badness is going to happen to our protagonist. We didn't need to know anymore than that. We didn't need to know where the Aliens came from anymore than we needed to know where the shark in Jaws came from, or where the graboids in Tremors came from. That isn't important to the story. These stories were about about normal people just trying to survive unimaginable horror. It didn't matter where the unimaginable horror came from, all that mattered was surviving it.

Prometheus was different because the investigation WAS the story. Prometheus was a film about discovery, and exploration, and the search for the origin of life. It wasn't a survivalist horror story, and it wasn't about surviving, it was about discovery. The film asked many grand questions, and the crew of Prometheus was composed entirely of scientists who traveled into deep space just to solve these questions. (It's actually a great concept for a sci-fi film, but too bad the characters had so little thought put into them).
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12:16PM on 01/29/2014
in the deleted scenes you see almost every characters "stupid reaction" explained and why in fact it wasn't stupid. What was stupid was the editing and had nothing to do with the writers.
in the deleted scenes you see almost every characters "stupid reaction" explained and why in fact it wasn't stupid. What was stupid was the editing and had nothing to do with the writers.
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11:51AM on 01/29/2014
Well written. Agree.
Well written. Agree.
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11:45AM on 01/29/2014

one of Scott's best films????

Really????

When you have a list consisting of Alien, Blade Runner, Black Hawk Down, Gladiator, Kingdom of Heaven, Black Rain, heck... even Thelma & Louise and Legend, this movie is not even in his top 5

Come on... lets get real here, its a 6 out of 10, MAYBE a 7 out of 10 movie. You can have decent characters going thru terrifying conditions, you dont necessary need to make them IDIOTS.

Honestly, I went into this film expecting something smart and visually stunning and at the end I
Really????

When you have a list consisting of Alien, Blade Runner, Black Hawk Down, Gladiator, Kingdom of Heaven, Black Rain, heck... even Thelma & Louise and Legend, this movie is not even in his top 5

Come on... lets get real here, its a 6 out of 10, MAYBE a 7 out of 10 movie. You can have decent characters going thru terrifying conditions, you dont necessary need to make them IDIOTS.

Honestly, I went into this film expecting something smart and visually stunning and at the end I felt exactly like after Avatar, the visuals and sounds were magnificent but the backbone of the story was weak, and I was treated like a 10 years old gump.

The most annoying feat of Prometheus is that truly, it had ALL THE POTENTIAL to become a classic, a Masterpiece. But it felt short... waaaay short.

Its not the worse Ive seen.. but come on... its not one of the best. And just like Avatar, it doesnt get any better after a repeated viewing.

If this movie was made by Brett Ratner I would have been impressed, but not coming from Scott.
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11:33AM on 01/29/2014
Prometheus, like most of Scott's films, is a feast for the eyes, but the criticisms raised are valid--for the most part. The constant need to put more and more questions out there only make it even more difficult to enjoy what you're watching when there honestly is no resolution or one answer to anything the film set out to do based on the teasers. Weyland pretending to be dead was pointless and was merely used as some sort of plot twist for those in the audience incapable of putting things
Prometheus, like most of Scott's films, is a feast for the eyes, but the criticisms raised are valid--for the most part. The constant need to put more and more questions out there only make it even more difficult to enjoy what you're watching when there honestly is no resolution or one answer to anything the film set out to do based on the teasers. Weyland pretending to be dead was pointless and was merely used as some sort of plot twist for those in the audience incapable of putting things together from the get go. Vickers revealing herself to be his daughter was another useless inclusion that amounted to absolutely nothing. The best thing about Prometheus is Fassbender's excellent (and cold) performance as David.
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11:32AM on 01/29/2014

Ok, let's count..

Just from memory the one time I saw it all of what made ZERO sense. The fact that the MAPMAKER with his digital mapping ball gets LOST!! The taking off of the helmets, the petting of the snake, the fact that they got Guy Pierce to play an EIGHTY YEAR OLD. I know, I know there's missing scenes of him young but does NINETY PERCENT of the movie going public know that? NO! So he just looks like Guy Pierce in bad make-up. Oh and the fact that if you had your abdomen sliced open and STAPLED back
Just from memory the one time I saw it all of what made ZERO sense. The fact that the MAPMAKER with his digital mapping ball gets LOST!! The taking off of the helmets, the petting of the snake, the fact that they got Guy Pierce to play an EIGHTY YEAR OLD. I know, I know there's missing scenes of him young but does NINETY PERCENT of the movie going public know that? NO! So he just looks like Guy Pierce in bad make-up. Oh and the fact that if you had your abdomen sliced open and STAPLED back together you would not be able to WALK let alone RUN........I could go on. But I won't. This movie disappointed on so many levels it's unforgivable.
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11:43AM on 01/29/2014
At least you live up to your username.
At least you live up to your username.
1:04PM on 01/29/2014
Oh, burn!
Oh, burn!
11:24AM on 01/29/2014
I loved Prometheus and thought it was a great film and was visually stunning. Would love to see a sequel or two that really expands the story and universe a bit more.
I loved Prometheus and thought it was a great film and was visually stunning. Would love to see a sequel or two that really expands the story and universe a bit more.
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11:05AM on 01/29/2014

Great Movie

I saw this on opening day in IMAX 3D. Visually the best looking film I've ever seen. Puts Avatar to shame as far as quality and use of technology. Great cast. Interesting plot. Could go on and on. Definetely deserves a sequel or two.
I saw this on opening day in IMAX 3D. Visually the best looking film I've ever seen. Puts Avatar to shame as far as quality and use of technology. Great cast. Interesting plot. Could go on and on. Definetely deserves a sequel or two.
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10:59AM on 01/29/2014

Okay.

As of this moment, I still think this film is pure shit. But this article has me having second thoughts so I'm going to rewatch it right now and come back here with some thoughts.
As of this moment, I still think this film is pure shit. But this article has me having second thoughts so I'm going to rewatch it right now and come back here with some thoughts.
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10:19AM on 01/29/2014
Prometheus really gets too much hate. It wasn't meant to be a prequel, but everybody I know still thinks it is one. That made it hard for people to relax and enjoy the mystery and thrill. Instead they looked for answers and didn't find them. Then they called it 'full of plot holes'.
Prometheus really gets too much hate. It wasn't meant to be a prequel, but everybody I know still thinks it is one. That made it hard for people to relax and enjoy the mystery and thrill. Instead they looked for answers and didn't find them. Then they called it 'full of plot holes'.
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1:55PM on 01/29/2014
A) How is it not meant to be a prequel when it does in fact have the origin of the xenomorphs and the space jockey? So congratulations on being 100% wrong on that count.

B) The movie brings up it's own questions (like the opening scene, is that Earth? If it is, then how did ancient civilizations know about the beings?) and doesn't answer any of them. To ask for those answers, prequel or not, isn't asking too much of the film, because it's built around trying to answer them. So yet again, you
A) How is it not meant to be a prequel when it does in fact have the origin of the xenomorphs and the space jockey? So congratulations on being 100% wrong on that count.

B) The movie brings up it's own questions (like the opening scene, is that Earth? If it is, then how did ancient civilizations know about the beings?) and doesn't answer any of them. To ask for those answers, prequel or not, isn't asking too much of the film, because it's built around trying to answer them. So yet again, you are wrong.
10:09AM on 01/29/2014
I was pleasantly surprised by this movie. It's not as bad as critics made it out to be. Sure, everything in the movie feels like been-there-done-that situation but I got hooked to the movie. It's a good sci-fi movie that stands on its own (although some prelude to Alien moment).
I was pleasantly surprised by this movie. It's not as bad as critics made it out to be. Sure, everything in the movie feels like been-there-done-that situation but I got hooked to the movie. It's a good sci-fi movie that stands on its own (although some prelude to Alien moment).
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10:01AM on 01/29/2014
I loved every moment of this film...I walked into this not thinking of it as a Prequel and was immensely entertained the entire run time. LOVE IT.
I loved every moment of this film...I walked into this not thinking of it as a Prequel and was immensely entertained the entire run time. LOVE IT.
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9:32AM on 01/29/2014

You people are INSANE

I can forgive a lot of the "stupid character" moves within the story, even though people that can't get past it have a valid argument. However, the fact that the black oil is a super stupendous dues ex machina that makes ZERO sense is just supremely unforgivable. It's hilariously convenient and dumb. It jumps from A to J to Z and back to F without any back story or explanation whatsoever. I understand setting up a sequel, but for the love of God this is typical LOST writing, making things up as
I can forgive a lot of the "stupid character" moves within the story, even though people that can't get past it have a valid argument. However, the fact that the black oil is a super stupendous dues ex machina that makes ZERO sense is just supremely unforgivable. It's hilariously convenient and dumb. It jumps from A to J to Z and back to F without any back story or explanation whatsoever. I understand setting up a sequel, but for the love of God this is typical LOST writing, making things up as you go and try and figure it out later - which in this case, will probably never even become available. Look, I could forgive this movie if they came out with a stellar sequel that fully fleshed out all of their half-assed ideas and loose storylines - but Ridley Scott isn't really your sequel man and Lindelof (this is HIS script NOT Spaights, but nice try) is known for leaving gaping holes in his stories. So what does that equal? LAZY FILMMAKING. It's a bad movie, deal with it.
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9:36AM on 01/29/2014
What in the hell are you talking about?
What in the hell are you talking about?
9:39AM on 01/29/2014
Regarding the "black oil," remember Clarke's Third Law-- "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." I'd say this qualifies, so to say it makes zero sense is not really true.
Regarding the "black oil," remember Clarke's Third Law-- "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." I'd say this qualifies, so to say it makes zero sense is not really true.
9:47AM on 01/29/2014
Further to that. What the black oil was doing was consistent along the board. We just saw it at different stages etc.
Further to that. What the black oil was doing was consistent along the board. We just saw it at different stages etc.
10:59AM on 01/29/2014
Do you have any idea what the fuck you are talking about?..... At to J to fucking annoying BS. It could have been worse, you could've wrote the script. Jesus.
Do you have any idea what the fuck you are talking about?..... At to J to fucking annoying BS. It could have been worse, you could've wrote the script. Jesus.
12:46PM on 01/29/2014
Gotti, you're a moron, read properly and then we'll talk.
Gotti, you're a moron, read properly and then we'll talk.
12:47PM on 01/29/2014
Kivzirrum, I understand, but you're giving the writer a free pass.
Kivzirrum, I understand, but you're giving the writer a free pass.
1:01PM on 01/29/2014
Hmm, perhaps, but I don't think so--as The_ConMan pointed out, the way the substance behaved was internally consistent, and we see what an advanced society the Engineers were, so in my opinion the stuff makes plenty of sense. It's also not really a deus ex machine because it fucks everything up, rather than fixing everything. A deus ex machina resolves the plot, rather than driving it.
Hmm, perhaps, but I don't think so--as The_ConMan pointed out, the way the substance behaved was internally consistent, and we see what an advanced society the Engineers were, so in my opinion the stuff makes plenty of sense. It's also not really a deus ex machine because it fucks everything up, rather than fixing everything. A deus ex machina resolves the plot, rather than driving it.
1:58PM on 01/29/2014
You are my new hero! I 100% agree with everything you said!
You are my new hero! I 100% agree with everything you said!
9:32AM on 01/29/2014
It's a good film. Personally, I love the idea of making films that take place within the same universe but aren't direct sequels/prequels. This happens in literature pretty frequently, why not more often in film? If Prometheus had been directly related to Alien then it would have lived in that film's shadow, but it's able to stand on its own, which I appreciate. I also like the mystery regarding the Engineers and stuff--after all, 2001: A Space Odyssey is regarded as one of the finest sci
It's a good film. Personally, I love the idea of making films that take place within the same universe but aren't direct sequels/prequels. This happens in literature pretty frequently, why not more often in film? If Prometheus had been directly related to Alien then it would have lived in that film's shadow, but it's able to stand on its own, which I appreciate. I also like the mystery regarding the Engineers and stuff--after all, 2001: A Space Odyssey is regarded as one of the finest sci fi movies ever, and that one is vague as hell--though I do think it could have been handled a little better. That doesn't mean everything should be spelled out for us, though, because where is the fun in that? It's all in the title, anyway.

That said, it's far from a perfect film, mostly because some of the actions of the characters DO seem to be in the "stupid to serve the plot" vein. I agree that characters don't always need to do the smart thing. After all, when you're actually in the situation it can be a lot harder to think rationally and people really DO make dumb mistakes that they wouldn't make were they able to keep their heads. The problem is when it seems out of character or unbelievable, which I think several moments in Prometheus qualify as.

It's hard to argue with the power of that opening scene, though, as well as the "self cesarean" thing. Those scenes alone vindicate a lot of this movie's problems! In my opinion, nitpicking has become a real problem in movie fandom. Sure, the little things can make a movie annoying, but why let them ruin an entire film for you, especially when the important things work well? Man, I dunno.
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9:50AM on 01/29/2014
Fanboys and basement dwellers have already directed the movies in their mind and if it isnt AS IS, the movie is bad.
Fanboys and basement dwellers have already directed the movies in their mind and if it isnt AS IS, the movie is bad.
9:27AM on 01/29/2014
If I'm not mistaken, JoBlo was originally created to be a movie site for the average movie-goer. Its why I started coming here over 10 years ago. But unfortunately, you can't have a good thing without the Tarantino worshipping, comic book reading, toy collecting, man child, fanboys eventually taking over and bitching about the most microscopic things in movies. "I direct you to the multiple haters on this site..." is in the first paragraph, but then it goes on to say "if you show PROMETHEUS to
If I'm not mistaken, JoBlo was originally created to be a movie site for the average movie-goer. Its why I started coming here over 10 years ago. But unfortunately, you can't have a good thing without the Tarantino worshipping, comic book reading, toy collecting, man child, fanboys eventually taking over and bitching about the most microscopic things in movies. "I direct you to the multiple haters on this site..." is in the first paragraph, but then it goes on to say "if you show PROMETHEUS to someone who has never seen ALIEN" - this would be a good example of how the fanboys have taken over the site and just kind of annoy the rest of us who are the average movie goer. Bottom line, if you ask the average movie goer, Prometheus was good, not great, Iron Man 3 was a great movie with a FANTASTIC twist, Tarantino's career has been 50/50 and quite frankly is a bit overrated, and no self respecting adult cares about the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie. I don't want comments or users banned for voicing opinions, but some of this griping about good movies and over-hyping bizarre movies is getting old.
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9:34AM on 01/29/2014
So false.
So false.
9:36AM on 01/29/2014
BatStud, you spelled "true" wrong
BatStud, you spelled "true" wrong
9:36AM on 01/29/2014
Not that I agree with everything you're saying here (I'm a fanboy myself, after all, and while personally I don't care about Bay's TMNT film, I'm sure there are plenty of self-respecting adults who do) but it is good to remember that there are all kinds of film fans out there! I think that's what makes sites like Joblo great--they cater to everybody--well, every straight male, but that's a whole other thing--and there are a wide variety of opinions on display.
Not that I agree with everything you're saying here (I'm a fanboy myself, after all, and while personally I don't care about Bay's TMNT film, I'm sure there are plenty of self-respecting adults who do) but it is good to remember that there are all kinds of film fans out there! I think that's what makes sites like Joblo great--they cater to everybody--well, every straight male, but that's a whole other thing--and there are a wide variety of opinions on display.
9:40AM on 01/29/2014
kivzirrum, and that's great. I got no problem with voicing opinions whether with pleasure or displeasure, but look at BatSTUD's comment above about the black oil (Really? That's what you took from Prometheus). Go to an article about TMNT and look at everyone bitching about how it's going to suck for the littlest reasons and giving it no chance, then how the next Tarantino project is going to be the best thing ever for the littlest reasons with predetermined opinions. Some of these judgments and
kivzirrum, and that's great. I got no problem with voicing opinions whether with pleasure or displeasure, but look at BatSTUD's comment above about the black oil (Really? That's what you took from Prometheus). Go to an article about TMNT and look at everyone bitching about how it's going to suck for the littlest reasons and giving it no chance, then how the next Tarantino project is going to be the best thing ever for the littlest reasons with predetermined opinions. Some of these judgments and gripes about things are quite questionable and simply odd.
10:01AM on 01/29/2014
Average movie goers don't visit websites and comment sections to post opinions. They just watch movies when the fancy strikes them, and don't care what fanboys think or don't think about their filmgoing tastes. The minority of film fans gather online to discuss their opinions. Think I'm wrong? Millions of people saw this movie. a dozen will post here. Welcome to the fanboy nation, manchild.
Average movie goers don't visit websites and comment sections to post opinions. They just watch movies when the fancy strikes them, and don't care what fanboys think or don't think about their filmgoing tastes. The minority of film fans gather online to discuss their opinions. Think I'm wrong? Millions of people saw this movie. a dozen will post here. Welcome to the fanboy nation, manchild.
10:06AM on 01/29/2014
Well said georgethree33
Well said georgethree33
10:14AM on 01/29/2014
I have to agree with you Slim – I for one am a geek though and I tend to judge based on a mixture of feelings and brain. Example – I enjoyed Lone Ranger. I had a good time. My brain tells me that there were problems for sure and maybe it wasn’t the exact Lone Ranger I know, but I still enjoyed it. Same as Transformers 3 – as a Transformers movie is sucked large – had nothing to do with TF (I own all the cartoons etc) However, I was very entertained by the last act (which had crazy
I have to agree with you Slim – I for one am a geek though and I tend to judge based on a mixture of feelings and brain. Example – I enjoyed Lone Ranger. I had a good time. My brain tells me that there were problems for sure and maybe it wasn’t the exact Lone Ranger I know, but I still enjoyed it. Same as Transformers 3 – as a Transformers movie is sucked large – had nothing to do with TF (I own all the cartoons etc) However, I was very entertained by the last act (which had crazy action), so my feelings were that I enjoyed it, even though my brain knew it was stupid. But some people go way too overboard with this stuff. TMNT – I am a fan and I want to see it done well. For the designs of the turtles, I like them. For the movie – I don’t know because I haven’t seen it yet. Maybe I will love it, maybe I wont, but it’s tough to judge without seeing it.

As a fan of movies I actually want to love all the movies I see. I look for the good first and see if I enjoy myself. I do a hard days work and I want to be rewarded with either an entertaining movie, a smart movie, a visually impressive movie – or whatever I choose. I don’t need all movies to be everything all the time. For the record, Prometheus was amazing.
10:16AM on 01/29/2014
I came to this site about 6 years ago after finally getting tired of the snark and cynisysim over at AICN. When I arrived here it was a breath of fresh air; the snark was at a tolerable level, the fanboys weren't so jaded, and the comentariat wasn't so up in arms. Over the last few years that's all changed.

I'd say that I'm more than your average movie goer since I've worked in production and broadcast for a while now, but I don't subscribe to the fanboy bible like so many do around here.
I came to this site about 6 years ago after finally getting tired of the snark and cynisysim over at AICN. When I arrived here it was a breath of fresh air; the snark was at a tolerable level, the fanboys weren't so jaded, and the comentariat wasn't so up in arms. Over the last few years that's all changed.

I'd say that I'm more than your average movie goer since I've worked in production and broadcast for a while now, but I don't subscribe to the fanboy bible like so many do around here. Want to change Spidey's costume? Go ahead. Combine a couple characters to make room for more action? Be my guest. Alter a few origin stories? As long as it works, have at it.

The problem is there isn't room for a simply "good" movie anymore. If it's not the best movie ever, it's automatically shit. Hell even Citizen Kane wasn't perfect.

PS I don't agree with your stance on the turtles though. For some adults like myself it's purely a nostalgia thing. But I'm not going to be up in arms if it ends up being "just" a good movie.
11:09AM on 01/29/2014
George, I don't go to websites (plural), I go to A website intended for average movie fans
George, I don't go to websites (plural), I go to A website intended for average movie fans
12:35PM on 01/29/2014
slimbo0330

Your assumption that this website is aimed at the "average" consumer is what's inaccurate. The average film goer doesn't visit ANY websites about films. So though you want to deny your place amongst the "fanboys" you dislike - you are in fact - already counted amongst the same number you look down upon by the virtue of being here. Especially since you cared enough to create an account, read and respond in the comments.

That's like someone complaining about comic book nerds
slimbo0330

Your assumption that this website is aimed at the "average" consumer is what's inaccurate. The average film goer doesn't visit ANY websites about films. So though you want to deny your place amongst the "fanboys" you dislike - you are in fact - already counted amongst the same number you look down upon by the virtue of being here. Especially since you cared enough to create an account, read and respond in the comments.

That's like someone complaining about comic book nerds in the comic store he himself frequents.

Average filmgoers - don't visit film fan websites - regardless of the clever name of the site.

Joblo is for film fans who are geeky enough to want to explore the subject after they leave the theater. Period. So to return to your original statement - yes - you're mistaken. Your conception of what the average film goer is - is incorrect. The average film goers don't care enough to come to any website devoted to a slice of geek culture.

So you're either a fanboy in denial who thinks he's above the rest of us opinionated movie goers, or a troll looking to stir up trouble.

If you care so little about what other fans think of films - stop reading the comments.
1:13PM on 01/29/2014
Or Im just an average guy who likes movies and checking up on whats coming out. Movie websites aren't reserved just for fanboys, like youre claiming - it's open for the public, pal. The website encourages feedback, but there's a difference between feedback and nitpicking. It's not as black and white as saying "you're either a fanboy or a troll" as you make it out to be. And I've always learned that someone who says "you think you're better than everyone else" usually has a heightened sense of
Or Im just an average guy who likes movies and checking up on whats coming out. Movie websites aren't reserved just for fanboys, like youre claiming - it's open for the public, pal. The website encourages feedback, but there's a difference between feedback and nitpicking. It's not as black and white as saying "you're either a fanboy or a troll" as you make it out to be. And I've always learned that someone who says "you think you're better than everyone else" usually has a heightened sense of insecurity. Truth is, I just enjoy watching movies and keeping up with whats coming out, yet I can't tell you that I've ever been to a midnight showing of any movie, attended conventions, etc., therefore Im not a fanboy like youre accusing me of being. You have no clue who I am, so stop making presumptions
1:22PM on 01/29/2014
Not to be presumptuous, but perhaps it's also helpful to remember that being a fanboy/girl does not ALWAYS mean being a nitpicky unpleasable pop-culture stereotype of a nerd. And that maybe whether or not someone is (or views themselves as) a fanboy/girl is less important than arguing the various points of a film. Otherwise, we're just going to go round and round.
Not to be presumptuous, but perhaps it's also helpful to remember that being a fanboy/girl does not ALWAYS mean being a nitpicky unpleasable pop-culture stereotype of a nerd. And that maybe whether or not someone is (or views themselves as) a fanboy/girl is less important than arguing the various points of a film. Otherwise, we're just going to go round and round.
2:27PM on 01/29/2014
Regardless of what you call yourself, with whom you choose to associate, or how you categorize the level of your love for movies, this whole entire community is about movie fans expressing their opinions on movies that some feel are great, while others might think are garbage. Just because someone has a different opinion (or on the reverse side, a passionate opinion)-despite the overall popularity of said opinion-does not make their opinion "wrong." Opinions are neither right, nor wrong. If
Regardless of what you call yourself, with whom you choose to associate, or how you categorize the level of your love for movies, this whole entire community is about movie fans expressing their opinions on movies that some feel are great, while others might think are garbage. Just because someone has a different opinion (or on the reverse side, a passionate opinion)-despite the overall popularity of said opinion-does not make their opinion "wrong." Opinions are neither right, nor wrong. If there is a right and wrong, it was never an opinion to begin with.

The beauty of this forum is that movie fans of all levels can choose whether or not to discuss their opinions, views, and perspectives *and be heard!* We'll just all have to agree to disagree on the opinion of whether all elements of a film should or should not be dissected (but isn't that part of the fun?!).

Let's just cease the "right or wrong" accusations and be civil.
10:25PM on 01/29/2014
Slimbo slimbo slimbo, what part of average movie goer aren't you getting? AVERAGE movie goers don't chat up films on the web. Period. So just by being here - you're part of the group you want to look down your nose at. Deal with it. You're a fanboy in denial. Self loathing is so sad to watch. And i didn't say film websites are RESERVED for fanboys. Nope not at all - but the average filmgoer doesn't bother haunting them, chatting on them. Just the fanboys do. And you my friend - are
Slimbo slimbo slimbo, what part of average movie goer aren't you getting? AVERAGE movie goers don't chat up films on the web. Period. So just by being here - you're part of the group you want to look down your nose at. Deal with it. You're a fanboy in denial. Self loathing is so sad to watch. And i didn't say film websites are RESERVED for fanboys. Nope not at all - but the average filmgoer doesn't bother haunting them, chatting on them. Just the fanboys do. And you my friend - are the one that is trying to convince himself that this is a website for folks just "like you." Who knew there was segregation in the film community. Sorry sir - you can't chat on this page - it's for non-fanboys only. Pul-lease. If you don't like reading the opinions of fans who collect toys, like TMNT, enjoy Tarantino films - the solution is simple. STOP reading the comment threads or avoid film websites altogether if you can't deal with people with points of view that are different from your own. You came here with a chip on your shoulder from your first post today bashing fans with a different opinion than your own, trash talking, labeling and making an ass of yourself. Surprise surprise the rest of us didn't agree with you, manchild trollboy.
9:58AM on 01/30/2014
What the hell are you talking about? You've got quite an imagination
What the hell are you talking about? You've got quite an imagination
9:24AM on 01/29/2014
I for one really enjoyed this movie. People can hate on it all they want for the way Damon Lindelof re-wrote it or how it wasn't a direct prequel to Alien. I see it asking the tough questions that are still unanswered, why are we here, how are we connected to the universe and is life out there. Adapting The Engineers into the story line I thought was genius, completely different from Alien, yet connecting a destructive force, terraforming life on a planet and the creation of human beings all in
I for one really enjoyed this movie. People can hate on it all they want for the way Damon Lindelof re-wrote it or how it wasn't a direct prequel to Alien. I see it asking the tough questions that are still unanswered, why are we here, how are we connected to the universe and is life out there. Adapting The Engineers into the story line I thought was genius, completely different from Alien, yet connecting a destructive force, terraforming life on a planet and the creation of human beings all in one.
I just wished we had an extended scene of the Engineers talking back and forth with Weylands group.
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9:03AM on 01/29/2014

Bottom line...

PROMETHEUS was a great sci-fi horror movie but an awful ALIEN prequel.
PROMETHEUS was a great sci-fi horror movie but an awful ALIEN prequel.
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9:03AM on 01/29/2014

Great Article

Agree about "looking" for plotholes

i.e vickers and shaw running straight. Most people dont think that while the ship is rolling forward, the ship is about a street block or two wide. It would definitely take 30-45 seconds to clear it while sacrificing the seconds to run away from the ship as opposed to running sideways but not making any distance in terms of the ship rolling towards you. Also. The sheer amount of debris falling? Would be like trying to run across 10 lanes of Nascar or F1
Agree about "looking" for plotholes

i.e vickers and shaw running straight. Most people dont think that while the ship is rolling forward, the ship is about a street block or two wide. It would definitely take 30-45 seconds to clear it while sacrificing the seconds to run away from the ship as opposed to running sideways but not making any distance in terms of the ship rolling towards you. Also. The sheer amount of debris falling? Would be like trying to run across 10 lanes of Nascar or F1 traffic and trying not to get smoked. Also not taking into account that these two people are in fight or flight and dont have the time to think rationally for even a second.
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9:02AM on 01/29/2014
I liked it a lot, both times that I saw it in the theatres. I agree that it doesn't quite hold up and the overarching logic of the story is kind of creaky, but the individual moments, the suspense, the atmosphere, the design, the tone and especially Michael Fassbender's scene-stealing turn as David make this a good, if not excellent, film. The birth of Cuddles The Squidbaby was a genuinely harrowing moment and I was totally squirming in my seat. If you're a fan of the film, do check out the
I liked it a lot, both times that I saw it in the theatres. I agree that it doesn't quite hold up and the overarching logic of the story is kind of creaky, but the individual moments, the suspense, the atmosphere, the design, the tone and especially Michael Fassbender's scene-stealing turn as David make this a good, if not excellent, film. The birth of Cuddles The Squidbaby was a genuinely harrowing moment and I was totally squirming in my seat. If you're a fan of the film, do check out the documentary "The Furious Gods: The Making of Prometheus" which is pretty thorough and very interesting - it's mind-boggling how much of it they achieved in-camera with practical effects.
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8:57AM on 01/29/2014
Prometheus was great. And most people liked it. It was only in the world of the internet that fanboys cried fowl. Go out into the real world and see how the movie is perceived before writing these articles. Next your going to do Stark Trek Into Darkness even though most everyone loved it excluding Trekkies, and internet dwellers. And before the comments that I'm using the internet...I use it I don't live by it.
Prometheus was great. And most people liked it. It was only in the world of the internet that fanboys cried fowl. Go out into the real world and see how the movie is perceived before writing these articles. Next your going to do Stark Trek Into Darkness even though most everyone loved it excluding Trekkies, and internet dwellers. And before the comments that I'm using the internet...I use it I don't live by it.
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9:06AM on 01/29/2014
Bingo. Spot on. Same thing with TDKR. The majority of the world loved it and it made over a billion dollars despite a theatre full of people being blown away on opening night (which would be box office poison to any other movie) and no 3D.

Spielberg once said he no longer cares what fans think or want from his movies. He writes them and makes the movies HE wants to make. Because no matter how great the movie is. Fanboys have already written and directed the movies in their mind.
Bingo. Spot on. Same thing with TDKR. The majority of the world loved it and it made over a billion dollars despite a theatre full of people being blown away on opening night (which would be box office poison to any other movie) and no 3D.

Spielberg once said he no longer cares what fans think or want from his movies. He writes them and makes the movies HE wants to make. Because no matter how great the movie is. Fanboys have already written and directed the movies in their mind.
2:04PM on 01/29/2014
Actually, I use to work at a movie store and most of the casual customers didn't seem to care for the movie at all. It got traded in back in quite a bit after being released on home video.

You are a bit more correct about the "TDKR" thing. That has polarized so many, but the average person seemed to enjoy, even if they didn't like it as much as "TDK".
Actually, I use to work at a movie store and most of the casual customers didn't seem to care for the movie at all. It got traded in back in quite a bit after being released on home video.

You are a bit more correct about the "TDKR" thing. That has polarized so many, but the average person seemed to enjoy, even if they didn't like it as much as "TDK".
8:48AM on 01/29/2014

I like it and really enjoyed it at the cinema.

Agree that this film came under a ridiculous amount of scrutiny compared to others. It's shows how beloved the franchise is.
I left the cinema entrhalled and asking questions and putting things together in my head. Who wants all the answers right away?
Now, when is the sequel coming out?
Agree that this film came under a ridiculous amount of scrutiny compared to others. It's shows how beloved the franchise is.
I left the cinema entrhalled and asking questions and putting things together in my head. Who wants all the answers right away?
Now, when is the sequel coming out?
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8:49AM on 01/29/2014
next year I think, Scott has the script finished I believe. I want to watch a movie, engage with it, not sit there while everything it told to me.
next year I think, Scott has the script finished I believe. I want to watch a movie, engage with it, not sit there while everything it told to me.
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8:43AM on 01/29/2014
I loved this movie. First off everything that you needed to know to enjoy the movie was explained and the stuff that wasn't - was stuff he didn't want to! Also, as just a monster movie it really rocks! I mean Alien didn't have tons of explaining either - everyone just enjoyed the movie. I don't remember people complaining about where the eggs came from etc, they just loved the movie for what it was.
I loved this movie. First off everything that you needed to know to enjoy the movie was explained and the stuff that wasn't - was stuff he didn't want to! Also, as just a monster movie it really rocks! I mean Alien didn't have tons of explaining either - everyone just enjoyed the movie. I don't remember people complaining about where the eggs came from etc, they just loved the movie for what it was.
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